My personal computer experience started at 5yrs old, playing Oregon Trail and Facemaker on an AppleII. I didnt use a computer again until I was 15... I think that most of us (at least those of us in our 20's) can't really comment on how computers affected us in school.
Computers of today are so much more than they have ever been before. So much more pervaisive and we design them to be soo transparent. They have insinuated themselves in everything we do.
For example, (those of you still in high school or collge), how can you write a research paper without using the Internet? I can barely remember how, after being done with college for 2 years. My method was to look for the info (journal articles & books) I wanted on the library website. Ordered the books online that I needed, went and picked them up at the library front desk. Most journal articles are now online in text form.... just printed them out. It's pretty easy.
But the scary thing for kids is who is teaching them to evaluate the information that they find online? Obviously, you can't believe everything you read on the web... not most things, in fact. Kids should be taught from a young age, what criteria you should evaluate information with. For example, We all know 9 out of 10 dentists recommend Crest toothpaste... well, what are their other choices? Crest or no brushing at all? Who knows...
So I am not necessarily worried about kids "swimming in a sea of information" but more I am concerned with them swimming in a sea of information and not being able to tell the difference between a good source of information and a bad one.
not only this entire area... but hundreds of miles around. All southern oregon from the coast to the eastern border.... for hours. Sorry all circuits are busy!
my work computer, where i have a need for stability and reliability (and where I have someone else who can afford to buy me top of the line equipment) is not overclocked.
my home computer is overclocked. i find it challenging to coax more speed out of something I bought at 1/4 the price of its big brother.
Why do I not find it suprising that you base your stereotype of women being on the internet to chat on the "Real World"?
I just love it when people make judgements on real life based on so called "real shows"...crap like road rules, real world, dating story... makes me wanna puke.
As for these people who quit their jobs for online chatting...get a life. jeez.
And as for you not having an opinion? It sounds like you do not approve of them quitting their jobs...but hey online messages are deceiving. Like when you say "rediculously" even though it is spelled wrong, it's one of those "I'm making a personal judgement" words!
The anonymity of the Internet has offered women a venue to explore fields that they have not been encouraged to explore in school...such as science, technology and math.
Women must take advantage of this, to avoid being run over by this "information revolution". It's a golden opportunity, let's quit reinforcing our same stereotypes.
Hey I agree with OOG we've been seeing all the indicators of a slowing economy... Fed keeps hiking the interest rates, Alan Greenspan is sending gloomy vibes.
All the market gurus have been saying that tech stocks are overvalued. I mean some of these IPOs are ridiculous, can any of us really believe that these baby open source companies are worth billions? They have the potential to be, in the future, but there is too much speculation and profit-taking in the market now. It is due for a reset.
By brother had severe head trauma from an accident as well. A gentl guy turned crazily violent and had to be restrained 24 hours a day for 2 weeks following the accident. He didnt even remember his family (me, his sister for all of his 16 years, mom, dad).
About 3 weeks into he started to remember long term stuff (like who we were).
After about 2 months he fully recovered all memory until about 10 minutes before the accident and about a month after.
He's fine now, but has some wicked scars under his hair. My brother Jason was much worse off in terms of brain function than this other Jason seems to be, I bet he'll be just fine.
It sure would be nice to be able to take my music with me, too bad its so much. I could probably justify 500 bucks for a gadget like this, but 700+.....nope. I guess you get what you pay for though.
If you read the article, you would see that these guys were clearly breaking the law. This really has nothing to do with lophtcrack at all.
So what if they had picked the lock on the front door and used zip disks to steal the customer lists....would we have a slashdot headline reading..."Busted for Zip Disk Possesion!"
I've worked with high school teachers, helping them integrate the Internet in their classroom, and doing other technology consulting. Virtually all of the students seem to know more about how to operate the computer and the internet than the teacher. I've seen teachers get really flustered when there is a problem and a student steps in and solves the problem. It's embarrassing to have a 9 year-old help you...I suppose.
It's pretty sad how terrified of technology some of these older teachers are...can't get overhead projectors to work. But change is difficult.
However, several of my friends just graduated from Oregon Teacher Programs, some of the toughest in the nation and had to study many ways the computer can be used in the classroom...Several of them even took some basic computer programming classes.
More good news for Oregon, US WEST gave 25 million dollars to Oregon high schools to get them Internet Access and computers.
There is great possibilty with these new young teachers and corporate sponsorships (a whole other can of worms) to open up computing for school children.
I doubt that it will be only women who are in a panic.
Take for example the vastly male, and hopefully well informed audience we have here on slashdot...many are still debating whether they will take their money out of the banks...
Slashdot Mirror
I'd recommend the Wrinkle in Time series by Madeleine L'Engle.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Wrinkle_in_Time
Sorry if it's already brought up, I did not see it.
Its Verant...not veriant or variant and they did write they game...Verant has been bought by Sony.
My personal computer experience started at 5yrs old, playing Oregon Trail and Facemaker on an AppleII. I didnt use a computer again until I was 15... I think that most of us (at least those of us in our 20's) can't really comment on how computers affected us in school.
Computers of today are so much more than they have ever been before. So much more pervaisive and we design them to be soo transparent. They have insinuated themselves in everything we do.
For example, (those of you still in high school or collge), how can you write a research paper without using the Internet? I can barely remember how, after being done with college for 2 years. My method was to look for the info (journal articles & books) I wanted on the library website. Ordered the books online that I needed, went and picked them up at the library front desk. Most journal articles are now online in text form.... just printed them out. It's pretty easy.
But the scary thing for kids is who is teaching them to evaluate the information that they find online? Obviously, you can't believe everything you read on the web... not most things, in fact. Kids should be taught from a young age, what criteria you should evaluate information with. For example, We all know 9 out of 10 dentists recommend Crest toothpaste... well, what are their other choices? Crest or no brushing at all? Who knows...
So I am not necessarily worried about kids "swimming in a sea of information" but more I am concerned with them swimming in a sea of information and not being able to tell the difference between a good source of information and a bad one.
not only this entire area... but hundreds of miles around. All southern oregon from the coast to the eastern border.... for hours. Sorry all circuits are busy!
i am a female. i overclock.
my work computer, where i have a need for stability and reliability (and where I have someone else who can afford to buy me top of the line equipment) is not overclocked.
my home computer is overclocked. i find it challenging to coax more speed out of something I bought at 1/4 the price of its big brother.
my mistake lego boy. Like I said these online messages are often hard to interpret... flame off.
Why do I not find it suprising that you base your stereotype of women being on the internet to chat on the "Real World"?
I just love it when people make judgements on real life based on so called "real shows"...crap like road rules, real world, dating story... makes me wanna puke.
As for these people who quit their jobs for online chatting...get a life. jeez.
And as for you not having an opinion? It sounds like you do not approve of them quitting their jobs...but hey online messages are deceiving. Like when you say "rediculously" even though it is spelled wrong, it's one of those "I'm making a personal judgement" words!
AMEN!
The anonymity of the Internet has offered women a venue to explore fields that they have not been encouraged to explore in school...such as science, technology and math.
Women must take advantage of this, to avoid being run over by this "information revolution". It's a golden opportunity, let's quit reinforcing our same stereotypes.
The Net ain't a frontier, we aren't cowboys.
gives you the save, pick app, cancel box.
choose pick and it lets you pick app is not available, once again reminding us this is not gold yet. Good start though.
Hey I agree with OOG we've been seeing all the indicators of a slowing economy... Fed keeps hiking the interest rates, Alan Greenspan is sending gloomy vibes.
All the market gurus have been saying that tech stocks are overvalued. I mean some of these IPOs are ridiculous, can any of us really believe that these baby open source companies are worth billions? They have the potential to be, in the future, but there is too much speculation and profit-taking in the market now. It is due for a reset.
Whatever....
By brother had severe head trauma from an accident as well. A gentl guy turned crazily violent and had to be restrained 24 hours a day for 2 weeks following the accident. He didnt even remember his family (me, his sister for all of his 16 years, mom, dad).
About 3 weeks into he started to remember long term stuff (like who we were).
After about 2 months he fully recovered all memory until about 10 minutes before the accident and about a month after.
He's fine now, but has some wicked scars under his hair. My brother Jason was much worse off in terms of brain function than this other Jason seems to be, I bet he'll be just fine.
It sure would be nice to be able to take my music with me, too bad its so much. I could probably justify 500 bucks for a gadget like this, but 700+ .....nope. I guess you get what you pay for though.
If you read the article, you would see that these guys were clearly breaking the law. This really has nothing to do with lophtcrack at all.
So what if they had picked the lock on the front door and used zip disks to steal the customer lists....would we have a slashdot headline reading..."Busted for Zip Disk Possesion!"
I think not...let's try not to be so reactionary.
some news service did pick this up...slashdot.
These results seem a little strange to me, there is explaination or context for the results.
why did they list the number of links to rickymartin.com or cooking.com
why did they list the longest url as a nonworking URL that probably used to spam the search engines?
oh great, uh hey guys, today I have determined there are 1 billion webpages!
Good call -
I've worked with high school teachers, helping them integrate the Internet in their classroom, and doing other technology consulting. Virtually all of the students seem to know more about how to operate the computer and the internet than the teacher. I've seen teachers get really flustered when there is a problem and a student steps in and solves the problem. It's embarrassing to have a 9 year-old help you...I suppose.
It's pretty sad how terrified of technology some of these older teachers are...can't get overhead projectors to work. But change is difficult.
However, several of my friends just graduated from Oregon Teacher Programs, some of the toughest in the nation and had to study many ways the computer can be used in the classroom...Several of them even took some basic computer programming classes.
More good news for Oregon, US WEST gave 25 million dollars to Oregon high schools to get them Internet Access and computers.
There is great possibilty with these new young teachers and corporate sponsorships (a whole other can of worms) to open up computing for school children.
The biggest problem our country faces on Jan 1 is not computers or technology. Its a bunch of crazy-ass people!
Well, the world is gonna end anyway, I may as well strap a bomb on my back and head down to times square! Kabooom!
I doubt that it will be only women who are in a panic.
Take for example the vastly male, and hopefully well informed audience we have here on slashdot...many are still debating whether they will take their money out of the banks...