I tried installing that on my 800 meg hard drive. I chose some predetermined package groups, tried to get rid of some stuff.. no dependency checking!!!
Unlike other distros, Slackware assumes that you know what you're doing, and that when you remove something, that you're sure you don't need it.
His post needlessly insulted open source community (calling the GPL "half-baked") without _ANY_ backup at all, then says it's hypocrisy to hate spam. (There is no correlation between releasing something as the GPL, and stealing bandwith.)
Because most of us think installing a base, bare system is where you start, and then you just add packages by hand with apt as you want/need them.
First of all, this isn't what I was referring to, but here's a question for you: how is your way better than Slackware, which gives you a choice?
When I'm setting up a system, I alread know what I want/need. If something pops up afterwards (new functionality), I can just add it in.
Forcing me to do it in two steps, instead of allowing me to choose, and then claiming (as you seem to be) that this "is the best way", is just assinine.
this guy writes and complains as he has a right to, and yet continues to whine even when they apologize and admit that yes, they made an error.
Not quite.
He writes and complains, as he has that right, then continues to whine when eBay doesn't apologize, but says they "may have" made an error, then continues to make that SAME error over and over.
I was a Slack user for several years, but the Debian installer was just so darned screwy. I should be able to select a few categories of programs, then edit the contents _if_ i want to.
BINGO!
Why is it that whenever you say you hate the Debian installer, Debheads always assume it's just because you're not accustomed to text interfaces?
I, too, am a Slack user (in the past I've used Mandrake and Caldera for my desktop, but switched once Slack hit 7.1), and I've tried Debian once - with pretty much the same results as you.. I find the installer completely non-intuitive, almost like it was made difficult on purpose.
Why can't the Debian people make an installer that's easy?
3Com's foray into telephone systems runs a BSD variant (NetBSD, IIRC)... (This is the stuff that's supposed to compete with the Meridian telephone systems)
We have an NBX100 system; the main chassis is modular, and connects to the telephones over standard ethernet ports (so there's no need to have separate phone wiring - the same jack used for your computer can be used for your phone; if you're short on network ports, the phone even has an RJ-45 passthrough, so you can plug your computer into your phone, and the phone into the walljack, which goes back to your switch.)
By default, the phones run their own protocol (not IP - possibly IPX, but I've never put a sniffer on the line to find out), but there is a mode to have them use h.323, so you can have remote extensions running over the internet.
There's nothing wrong with stopping and asking "Why should I follow the anti-MS stampede?"
True enough... but using logic like "I trust banks, so why not trust MS" is pure lunacy..
Banks are required (by law) to be FDIC insured. There is none of this "we take no responsibility for your money - if we get robbed, you'll lose it, even if it was our fault" mentality that MS seems to have (read your EULA some time)
If a bank decided (for no reason) to tell you "I'm sorry, I don't feel like giving you your money", they can be shut down, and the officers thrown in jail.
As soon as MS takes some responsibility for their products and services, maybe I'll start to trust them.
Excuse me, but with all due respect, youre completely wrong.
No, he's completely correct, you're completely wrong.
the website I run (which neither works in Lynx nor is it accessible by blind people) is solely oriented around visual arts, so no, Im not rude, discourteous or odious.
Yes you are - you just weren't aware of it.. which (ironically) is pretty much the reasong that others are rude and discourteous.
Lynx is a terrible browser which doesnt conform to the HTML standard with any degree of accuracy
Care to back that up?
Lynx is a great browser for text-based access. That's what it was designed for.
Nor does it support most of the techologies which have enriched the internet: Java, Javascript, Flash, Graphics, Animation, streaming media.
Ahem, HOW STUPID ARE YOU?
Of course it doesn't support visual gimmicks, as I said, it's a text-only browser.
You need to get real.
No, YOU need to get real.
The web was created as a tool for sharing information, not to let would-be artists show off the pretty graphics they can make. HTML is a platform-independant language for information exchange. It isn't a graphics language, despite the best efforts of bigots like you.
the first 8 bits of address specify the manufacturer. Not all the possible 8-bit codes are assigned.
And you believe that every NIC has a database of which codes have been assigned? What happens when new manufacturers are added - does every card in existence download the new database?
First, you ROCK!. Thanks for creating the only worthwhile TV in a long time.
After watching a Junkyard Wars marathon last year, I realized that you're a female version of Buckaroo Banzai. You both play in a rock band, you both have PhD's, you both appear on TV, and you both have a fascination with science. About the only difference is that he's a surgeon and you're a nurse.
Did you purposely set out to become a real-life comic book hero, or was it just fate?
Based on that logic we should all quit speeding too.
What you're missing is that this isn't at all like speeding...
With speeding, you are only caught if there is a cop nearby..
with spam, you either have a bad recipient address (in which case, there isn't anyone to complain), or there was a victim, who recieved the spam.
Perhaps a better (though not perfect - see below) analogy is "well, we had better stop mugging people, and giving them our addresses afterwards"
If the expected conviction rate of all spammers is say oh... 1 of 100 (ridiculuously conservative) then some Joe looking to get into the spam business is looking at this kinda math:
In order for there to be a conviction there has to be a criminal trial.
This is not criminal law, this is civil law - which means that the victim sues the spammer. Once people know they can get $2000 plus court costs per spam, the 'cost of doing business' gets VERY high, VERY quickly.
At least the computer didn't replay a soundfile of William Shatner doing Shakespeare
Or even worse, ol' WFS doing his rendition of Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds..
I have a copy of it, and I don't know anyone who's been able to listen to the whole thing... it's probably the most distracting thing I've ever heard..
there are too many possible boards to express in practice - ever
You sound like Bill Gates when he mentioned that thing about 640K being enough for anyone..
There may be too many possible boards to express with current computer technology (which may or may not be true - supercomputers built for analyzing weather patterns deal with huge amounts of data all the time) but saying that there will never be a computer capable of doing so is pretty short-sighted.
how can the movie industry be declining if attendance is up and they are breaking sales records?
Simple..
Paramount Pictures Inc. (a wholly owned subsidiary of Paramount Studios Inc.) makes a movie, which comes in exactly on budget at $40M
Paramount Pictures Inc. then wants people to see it, so they get their marketing company, Paramount Marketing Inc. (a wholly-owned subsidiary of Paramount Studios Inc.) to do the marketing.
Paramount Marketing Inc. (a wholly-owned subsidiary of Paramount Studios Inc.) charges Paramount Pictures Inc. the tidy sum of $300M to market the movie.
The movie is a blockbuster, and nets (not grosses) $90M for Paramount Pictures Inc. (a wholly owned subsidiary of Paramount Studios Inc.) in it's first weekend.. but after that it only nets an average of $20M per week, and it stays in theatres for two months.
So, after it's theater run, the movie has earned a total of $250M, but Paramount Pictures Inc. (a wholly owned subsidiary of Paramount Studios Inc.) is in the hole by $150M.
So the only thing that can save Paramount Pictures Inc. (a wholly owned subsidiary of Paramount Studios Inc.) is a large infusion of cash from their parent company, Paramount Studios Inc.
Anyone who knows anything about money will tell you that the parent company can't continute to pump money into a money-losing venture indefinitely... if they keep having to do it, they'll have to shut Paramount Picutures Inc. (a wholly owned subsidiary of Paramount Studios Inc.) down!
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I tried installing that on my 800 meg hard drive. I chose some predetermined package groups, tried to get rid of some stuff .. no dependency checking!!!
Unlike other distros, Slackware assumes that you know what you're doing, and that when you remove something, that you're sure you don't need it.
his post was NOT a troll.
Yes, it most certainly was.
Here, I'll spell it out for you:
His post needlessly insulted open source community (calling the GPL "half-baked") without _ANY_ backup at all, then says it's hypocrisy to hate spam. (There is no correlation between releasing something as the GPL, and stealing bandwith.)
A troll asking a question is still a troll.
Because most of us think installing a base, bare system is where you start, and then you just add packages by hand with apt as you want/need them.
First of all, this isn't what I was referring to, but here's a question for you: how is your way better than Slackware, which gives you a choice?
When I'm setting up a system, I alread know what I want/need. If something pops up afterwards (new functionality), I can just add it in.
Forcing me to do it in two steps, instead of allowing me to choose, and then claiming (as you seem to be) that this "is the best way", is just assinine.
this guy writes and complains as he has a right to, and yet continues to whine even when they apologize and admit that yes, they made an error.
Not quite.
He writes and complains, as he has that right, then continues to whine when eBay doesn't apologize, but says they "may have" made an error, then continues to make that SAME error over and over.
I was a Slack user for several years, but the Debian installer was just so darned screwy. I should be able to select a few categories of programs, then edit the contents _if_ i want to.
BINGO!
Why is it that whenever you say you hate the Debian installer, Debheads always assume it's just because you're not accustomed to text interfaces?
I, too, am a Slack user (in the past I've used Mandrake and Caldera for my desktop, but switched once Slack hit 7.1), and I've tried Debian once - with pretty much the same results as you.. I find the installer completely non-intuitive, almost like it was made difficult on purpose.
Why can't the Debian people make an installer that's easy?
e: The Most Powerful Force in the Universe!
:o)
Really? I've always thought that about TLC or Discovery Channel
we at least have a constitutional amendment protecting our rights
You might want to let John Ashcroft know that.. it seems to have slipped his mind.
A fair chunk of the newspapers in the interior of British Columbia are owned by one man (I forget his name).
Conrad Black?
I guess I should read the text on that link. It runs Wind River VxWorks OS.
Interesting.. I wonder if this is a change, because the last time I took a look at ours, it was BSD..
3Com's foray into telephone systems runs a BSD variant (NetBSD, IIRC)... (This is the stuff that's supposed to compete with the Meridian telephone systems)
We have an NBX100 system; the main chassis is modular, and connects to the telephones over standard ethernet ports (so there's no need to have separate phone wiring - the same jack used for your computer can be used for your phone; if you're short on network ports, the phone even has an RJ-45 passthrough, so you can plug your computer into your phone, and the phone into the walljack, which goes back to your switch.)
By default, the phones run their own protocol (not IP - possibly IPX, but I've never put a sniffer on the line to find out), but there is a mode to have them use h.323, so you can have remote extensions running over the internet.
And you thought Ballmer looked dumb when he took the podium
No, it wasn't the 'taking' that made him look dumb, it was the screaming and jumping around like an ass that made him look dumb.
There's nothing wrong with stopping and asking "Why should I follow the anti-MS stampede?"
True enough... but using logic like "I trust banks, so why not trust MS" is pure lunacy..
Banks are required (by law) to be FDIC insured. There is none of this "we take no responsibility for your money - if we get robbed, you'll lose it, even if it was our fault" mentality that MS seems to have (read your EULA some time)
If a bank decided (for no reason) to tell you "I'm sorry, I don't feel like giving you your money", they can be shut down, and the officers thrown in jail.
As soon as MS takes some responsibility for their products and services, maybe I'll start to trust them.
Excuse me, but with all due respect, youre completely wrong.
No, he's completely correct, you're completely wrong.
the website I run (which neither works in Lynx nor is it accessible by blind people) is solely oriented around visual arts, so no, Im not rude, discourteous or odious.
Yes you are - you just weren't aware of it.. which (ironically) is pretty much the reasong that others are rude and discourteous.
Lynx is a terrible browser which doesnt conform to the HTML standard with any degree of accuracy
Care to back that up?
Lynx is a great browser for text-based access. That's what it was designed for.
Nor does it support most of the techologies which have enriched the internet: Java, Javascript, Flash, Graphics, Animation, streaming media.
Ahem, HOW STUPID ARE YOU?
Of course it doesn't support visual gimmicks, as I said, it's a text-only browser.
You need to get real.
No, YOU need to get real.
The web was created as a tool for sharing information, not to let would-be artists show off the pretty graphics they can make. HTML is a platform-independant language for information exchange. It isn't a graphics language, despite the best efforts of bigots like you.
Hmm, I think I've just been trolled.
the first 8 bits of address specify the manufacturer. Not all the possible 8-bit codes are assigned.
And you believe that every NIC has a database of which codes have been assigned? What happens when new manufacturers are added - does every card in existence download the new database?
Secondly (just FYI), the manufacturer code is 24 bits, not 8 - for a list of codes, see http://www.tigress.com/info/mac
Who the hell is going to put a realtek 8139 based card in their computer?
To quote Donald Becker (the guy who wrote the 8139 driver for Linux)
"these cards redefine the term 'low-end'."
Why must everyone bash all things American? Tyler is OK.
:o)
He's also Canadian, not American
Cathy,
First, you ROCK! . Thanks for creating the only worthwhile TV in a long time.
After watching a Junkyard Wars marathon last year, I realized that you're a female version of Buckaroo Banzai. You both play in a rock band, you both have PhD's, you both appear on TV, and you both have a fascination with science. About the only difference is that he's a surgeon and you're a nurse.
Did you purposely set out to become a real-life comic book hero, or was it just fate?
One has to wonder if this Search Kink company is run by (or perhaps related to) Daniel Brandt
The similarities are eerily spooky..
speech is speech
A pointless argument.
The First Amendment of your constitution guarantess the right to say whatever you want.
It does not, however guarantee an audience, nor does it guarantee the right to force people to pay for your speech.
"Free Speech" is about your right to express your opinions, not the right to harrass people.
If you walked down the street with a bullhorn at 3AM, shouting "BUY MY HERBAL VIAGRA", you'd be fined by your town for disturbing the peace.
And there is no way in hell you could argue that the law used to arrest you violated your First Amendment rights.
Spam is no different. Spammers are forcing the recipient to pay for their spam, whether the victim wants it or not.
This has nothing to do with "speech".
Based on that logic we should all quit speeding too.
What you're missing is that this isn't at all like speeding...
With speeding, you are only caught if there is a cop nearby..
with spam, you either have a bad recipient address (in which case, there isn't anyone to complain), or there was a victim, who recieved the spam.
Perhaps a better (though not perfect - see below) analogy is "well, we had better stop mugging people, and giving them our addresses afterwards"
If the expected conviction rate of all spammers is say oh... 1 of 100 (ridiculuously conservative) then some Joe looking to get into the spam business is looking at this kinda math:
In order for there to be a conviction there has to be a criminal trial.
This is not criminal law, this is civil law - which means that the victim sues the spammer. Once people know they can get $2000 plus court costs per spam, the 'cost of doing business' gets VERY high, VERY quickly.
At least the computer didn't replay a soundfile of William Shatner doing Shakespeare
Or even worse, ol' WFS doing his rendition of Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds..
I have a copy of it, and I don't know anyone who's been able to listen to the whole thing... it's probably the most distracting thing I've ever heard..
there are too many possible boards to express in practice - ever
You sound like Bill Gates when he mentioned that thing about 640K being enough for anyone..
There may be too many possible boards to express with current computer technology (which may or may not be true - supercomputers built for analyzing weather patterns deal with huge amounts of data all the time) but saying that there will never be a computer capable of doing so is pretty short-sighted.
Url, anyone? I sadly never bookmarked it (shame on me).
s p
I did bookmark it, this is what I have:
http://www.silverlight.org/Cray/lego/machinegun.a
Although the server isn't sending the correct MIME type...
how can the movie industry be declining if attendance is up and they are breaking sales records?
Simple..
Paramount Pictures Inc. (a wholly owned subsidiary of Paramount Studios Inc.) makes a movie, which comes in exactly on budget at $40M
Paramount Pictures Inc. then wants people to see it, so they get their marketing company, Paramount Marketing Inc. (a wholly-owned subsidiary of Paramount Studios Inc.) to do the marketing.
Paramount Marketing Inc. (a wholly-owned subsidiary of Paramount Studios Inc.) charges Paramount Pictures Inc. the tidy sum of $300M to market the movie.
The movie is a blockbuster, and nets (not grosses) $90M for Paramount Pictures Inc. (a wholly owned subsidiary of Paramount Studios Inc.) in it's first weekend.. but after that it only nets an average of $20M per week, and it stays in theatres for two months.
So, after it's theater run, the movie has earned a total of $250M, but Paramount Pictures Inc. (a wholly owned subsidiary of Paramount Studios Inc.) is in the hole by $150M.
So the only thing that can save Paramount Pictures Inc. (a wholly owned subsidiary of Paramount Studios Inc.) is a large infusion of cash from their parent company, Paramount Studios Inc.
Anyone who knows anything about money will tell you that the parent company can't continute to pump money into a money-losing venture indefinitely... if they keep having to do it, they'll have to shut Paramount Picutures Inc. (a wholly owned subsidiary of Paramount Studios Inc.) down!
We can have a few beers, or a pizza, talk about the movie, throw some popcorn around
:o)
Ahh, so you're the guy that pisses eveyone off!