Unionizing is a great idea, the average union worker makes well more than minimum wage and well more than he would have otherwise made, or in teh case of some unions, had made in the past. Union workers have garunteed health benefits, garunteed retirement programs, work a maximum set of hours (how many 14 hours days have YOU pulled this year), are treated more fairly, are taken more seriously by management because numbers have clout, get liveable minimums set for a variety of other things.
An IT union would have the ability to set a better standard for working than we have today, most jobs view you as a resource and an expendable one at that, and that you are to be made to live to work basically. You're viewed more as an asset and less as a person, at least with a union they have a much more powerful entity to try to reckon with. The link to CNN the poll results says right now it's 31/40 against unionizing, while unions can be corrupted, one setup properly would have a better chance of actually serving the good of the worker. I dunno about you, but I've had several long conversations with firends who are in IT as well and we all seem to think this is a good thing for all of us.
maybe if all the companies try to make clay pigeons of themselves the RIAA's massive war chests will be spread too thin to win them all.. then again maybe they'll just kill civil rights with a darth-vader-throat-crushing
linux might be able to make money via support contracts offered by big OEMS like compaq or dell but if all theri money lies in YOU not being able to figure something out doesn't that seem like it's an incentive for linux to stay hard to use ? and therefore off the desktop and out of the mainstream ? the average user just wants something that works, i was faced with this myself yesterday when i got tired of fucking with slackware's shitty support for anything on my laptop and after hours of trying to get pcmcia/sound working i gave up and instaleld win 2k pro on it which automatically detected/installed/setup all my hardware while i had my back turned.. i've been running linux in some form since '95 and there comes a point where the time and effort wasted on smoething out weighs the benefit of using it if the linux business model is to offer support for their already difficult to setup use and maintain system what incentive is there for them to make it better ? none ; in face they have an incentive to make it more difficult since more people would pay for support that way if every good site on the internet becomes a pay site the internet will die because no one weants to pay (and i use cable but this is an example) $40 a month for a phone line plus $20 a month for dialup access AND THEN have to pay another $3.50 or $5 or whatever for EVERY SITE THEY USE people pay for the access so they expect the services to be free and i believe they are right in thinking so (i just read an example of pay per view being used but that is completely invalid when brought to the internet as cable companies already have a monopoly on the content they provide, pay per view movies have a niche as they are about teh laziness of getting off your ass to drive to blockbuster vs calling an 800 #, besides teh majority of these are either a.) porno which you dont' want ot be seen buying.. porn is available on the net.. but is it of high quality as vhs or dvd porno ? hell no it isn't or b.) live events for which you would otherwise have to pay for a ticket and go out of your way to see) just think about what would happen if every site you visited started charging for access and the added inconvenience of a plethora of logins and passwords every time you wanted to do anything like.. read a slashdot story or search for something on freshmeat -- the net would die over night and there would be nothing left but virtual tumbleweeds
linux might be able to make money via support contracts offered by big OEMS like compaq or dell but if all theri money lies in YOU not being able to figure something out doesn't that seem like it's an incentive for linux to stay hard to use ? and therefore off the desktop and out of the mainstream ? the average user just wants something that works, i was faced with this myself yesterday when i got tired of fucking with slackware's shitty support for anything on my laptop and after hours of trying to get pcmcia/sound working i gave up and instaleld win 2k pro on it which automatically detected/installed/setup all my hardware while i had my back turned.. i've been running linux in some form since '95 and there comes a point where the time and effort wasted on smoething out weighs the benefit of using it
if the linux business model is to offer support for their already difficult to setup use and maintain system what incentive is there for them to make it better ? none ; in face they have an incentive to make it more difficult since more people would pay for support that way
if every good site on the internet becomes a pay site
the internet will die because no one weants to pay (and i use cable but this is an example) $40 a month for a phone line plus $20 a month for dialup access AND THEN have to pay another $3.50 or $5 or whatever for EVERY SITE THEY USE people pay for the access so they expect the services to be free
and i believe they are right in thinking so
big deal
i'm still out $800 on my redhat stock
i bet many more people are worse off than i am
in doubt of a recession ? check the dow jones.. ti's been losing 200 points a day for weeks.. like a wounded whale flailing around in an ocean of FUD
is aol so hell bent on fucking over a new market segment.. dont' they realize that by shutting everyone in free software/open source out they close the door on their own futures ? i wonder what mirabilis thinks of this
firstly, it's sad that, as i live in indianapolis, that i hear about it on slashdot first.. however i'm glad this idiocy has been struck down.. i remember them proposing something along these lines awhile back but nothing ever came of that.. hopefully this will bleed through to other legislation sending a clear "take care of your own fucking kids and stop crippling freedom for the rest of us" message
i dunno about you guys, but the last time i went to wal-mart windows me was teh same price as redhat/mandrake on the shelf.. and windowsupdate is free
in addition, the recently added faq states that the price will be $19.95 a month after april 9th(?) which is a little over half what it costs off the shelf.. i think if they are interested in pursuing this the best way to do it would be to only charge commerical companies the fees.. since they can afford it and leave it free for non-commercial use.. my $.02
almost no taxes are constitutional, think this is would be great time for americans to stand up for their fucking rights and get some other taxes repealed if this goes well. For example income tax doesn't go towards anything useful, it's just extra money for the government to waste on expanding there alraedy grossly over extended powers of state. Do we need more taxes ? no we need less takes.. check out the link in my sig it does a much better job of explaining
i guess it's just a matter of time before
windows source code starts floating around gnutella.. and that they claim teh purpose is not for their cleints to be running their own custom made versions of windows and that it's just supposed to give them a better understanding of the windows platform is total bullshit.. looks like M$ is finally realizing that millions of programmers constantly working to improve code isn't something they can afford even with their R&D cash...
exactly, i mean the article says it uses a 4 Kb/s stream.. that's too much for most people on dial up.. i mean what good is a desktop if you can't do anything with it because it's strangling your bandwidth.. seems pointless to have an X desktop running on a handheld remotely anyways.. why not spend their time working on a stripped down versino that runs natively
i think the biggest problem with running a remote X desktop to your handheld or cell phone or whatever else would be bandwidth.. it just isn't there for little portable devices..
i agree with most of what she has to say, i started with slackware in '95 myself, and while linux has come a very long way, it still has a very long way to go;).. the beating teh standardization issue over the head is pointless though.. there already exist a number of linux distributions aimed at giving a common interface to things.. have you seen Mandrake's GUI installer recently ? it's very well done and getting better all the time.. the point is that the 'hackers' have their choice of distributions.. and so do the corporations all you have to do is pick a company and stick with tehm.. SuSE/Redhat/Mandrake/Stormlinux are all trying to do what she says and they all have different perspectives.. just check them out and see which one fits your needs.. or get slack and roll your own:) you don't see any one else selling windows.. here there is a lot of simultaneous development happening. my $.02
i dunno about the rest of you, but after checking suns website at
http://store.sun.com/webconfig/BuildConfig.jhtml;$ sessionid$4EZMYZIAAAIZVAMTA1ESPJT5AAAACJ1K
w/ the prices listed the way they are.. it looks like they base model is $10k ? $14k for a medium and $19k for a "large" wtf is this a pizza ? either these are typos or a lot of new organizations can't read
Slashdot Mirror
mounted on 30" flatscreen on my wall.. ever-lasting/changing artwork. hey it seemed like a good idea with a gobstopper..
Unionizing is a great idea, the average union worker makes well more than minimum wage and well more than he would have otherwise made, or in teh case of some unions, had made in the past. Union workers have garunteed health benefits, garunteed retirement programs, work a maximum set of hours (how many 14 hours days have YOU pulled this year), are treated more fairly, are taken more seriously by management because numbers have clout, get liveable minimums set for a variety of other things.
An IT union would have the ability to set a better standard for working than we have today, most jobs view you as a resource and an expendable one at that, and that you are to be made to live to work basically. You're viewed more as an asset and less as a person, at least with a union they have a much more powerful entity to try to reckon with. The link to CNN the poll results says right now it's 31/40 against unionizing, while unions can be corrupted, one setup properly would have a better chance of actually serving the good of the worker. I dunno about you, but I've had several long conversations with firends who are in IT as well and we all seem to think this is a good thing for all of us.
maybe if all the companies try to make clay pigeons of themselves the RIAA's massive war chests will be spread too thin to win them all.. then again maybe they'll just kill civil rights with a darth-vader-throat-crushing
linux might be able to make money via support contracts offered by big OEMS like compaq or dell but if all theri money lies in YOU not being able to figure something out doesn't that seem like it's an incentive for linux to stay hard to use ? and therefore off the desktop and out of the mainstream ? the average user just wants something that works, i was faced with this myself yesterday when i got tired of fucking with slackware's shitty support for anything on my laptop and after hours of trying to get pcmcia/sound working i gave up and instaleld win 2k pro on it which automatically detected/installed/setup all my hardware while i had my back turned.. i've been running linux in some form since '95 and there comes a point where the time and effort wasted on smoething out weighs the benefit of using it if the linux business model is to offer support for their already difficult to setup use and maintain system what incentive is there for them to make it better ? none ; in face they have an incentive to make it more difficult since more people would pay for support that way if every good site on the internet becomes a pay site the internet will die because no one weants to pay (and i use cable but this is an example) $40 a month for a phone line plus $20 a month for dialup access AND THEN have to pay another $3.50 or $5 or whatever for EVERY SITE THEY USE people pay for the access so they expect the services to be free and i believe they are right in thinking so (i just read an example of pay per view being used but that is completely invalid when brought to the internet as cable companies already have a monopoly on the content they provide, pay per view movies have a niche as they are about teh laziness of getting off your ass to drive to blockbuster vs calling an 800 #, besides teh majority of these are either a.) porno which you dont' want ot be seen buying .. porn is available on the net.. but is it of high quality as vhs or dvd porno ? hell no it isn't or b.) live events for which you would otherwise have to pay for a ticket and go out of your way to see) just think about what would happen if every site you visited started charging for access and the added inconvenience of a plethora of logins and passwords every time you wanted to do anything like .. read a slashdot story or search for something on freshmeat -- the net would die over night and there would be nothing left but virtual tumbleweeds
linux might be able to make money via support contracts offered by big OEMS like compaq or dell but if all theri money lies in YOU not being able to figure something out doesn't that seem like it's an incentive for linux to stay hard to use ? and therefore off the desktop and out of the mainstream ? the average user just wants something that works, i was faced with this myself yesterday when i got tired of fucking with slackware's shitty support for anything on my laptop and after hours of trying to get pcmcia/sound working i gave up and instaleld win 2k pro on it which automatically detected/installed/setup all my hardware while i had my back turned.. i've been running linux in some form since '95 and there comes a point where the time and effort wasted on smoething out weighs the benefit of using it if the linux business model is to offer support for their already difficult to setup use and maintain system what incentive is there for them to make it better ? none ; in face they have an incentive to make it more difficult since more people would pay for support that way if every good site on the internet becomes a pay site the internet will die because no one weants to pay (and i use cable but this is an example) $40 a month for a phone line plus $20 a month for dialup access AND THEN have to pay another $3.50 or $5 or whatever for EVERY SITE THEY USE people pay for the access so they expect the services to be free and i believe they are right in thinking so
it's on the main page ;P
if only my athlon would run in a glass bubble and eat algae
big deal i'm still out $800 on my redhat stock i bet many more people are worse off than i am in doubt of a recession ? check the dow jones.. ti's been losing 200 points a day for weeks.. like a wounded whale flailing around in an ocean of FUD
is aol so hell bent on fucking over a new market segment.. dont' they realize that by shutting everyone in free software/open source out they close the door on their own futures ? i wonder what mirabilis thinks of this
i have zero tolerance for idiots it comes from being on irc all day ;)
isn't this like the 18th LCD replacement story on /. in recent months? where is all this vaporware going anyways
firstly, it's sad that, as i live in indianapolis, that i hear about it on slashdot first.. however i'm glad this idiocy has been struck down.. i remember them proposing something along these lines awhile back but nothing ever came of that.. hopefully this will bleed through to other legislation sending a clear "take care of your own fucking kids and stop crippling freedom for the rest of us" message
i dunno about you guys, but the last time i went to wal-mart windows me was teh same price as redhat/mandrake on the shelf.. and windowsupdate is free in addition, the recently added faq states that the price will be $19.95 a month after april 9th(?) which is a little over half what it costs off the shelf .. i think if they are interested in pursuing this the best way to do it would be to only charge commerical companies the fees.. since they can afford it and leave it free for non-commercial use.. my $.02
almost no taxes are constitutional, think this is would be great time for americans to stand up for their fucking rights and get some other taxes repealed if this goes well. For example income tax doesn't go towards anything useful, it's just extra money for the government to waste on expanding there alraedy grossly over extended powers of state. Do we need more taxes ? no we need less takes.. check out the link in my sig it does a much better job of explaining
get some ;p
i guess it's just a matter of time before windows source code starts floating around gnutella.. and that they claim teh purpose is not for their cleints to be running their own custom made versions of windows and that it's just supposed to give them a better understanding of the windows platform is total bullshit.. looks like M$ is finally realizing that millions of programmers constantly working to improve code isn't something they can afford even with their R&D cash...
it says it requires 4 Kb/s in the article.. which is like.. 80% of someone's "56k" dialup.. so much for streaming stock prices ;)
exactly, i mean the article says it uses a 4 Kb/s stream.. that's too much for most people on dial up.. i mean what good is a desktop if you can't do anything with it because it's strangling your bandwidth.. seems pointless to have an X desktop running on a handheld remotely anyways.. why not spend their time working on a stripped down versino that runs natively
i think the biggest problem with running a remote X desktop to your handheld or cell phone or whatever else would be bandwidth.. it just isn't there for little portable devices..
i agree with most of what she has to say, i started with slackware in '95 myself, and while linux has come a very long way, it still has a very long way to go ;).. the beating teh standardization issue over the head is pointless though.. there already exist a number of linux distributions aimed at giving a common interface to things.. have you seen Mandrake's GUI installer recently ? it's very well done and getting better all the time.. the point is that the 'hackers' have their choice of distributions.. and so do the corporations all you have to do is pick a company and stick with tehm.. SuSE/Redhat/Mandrake/Stormlinux are all trying to do what she says and they all have different perspectives.. just check them out and see which one fits your needs .. or get slack and roll your own :) you don't see any one else selling windows.. here there is a lot of simultaneous development happening. my $.02
i'm sure it's part of teh allure of his paintings
no where is safe from censorship
i dunno about the rest of you, but after checking suns website at http://store.sun.com/webconfig/BuildConfig.jhtml;$ sessionid$4EZMYZIAAAIZVAMTA1ESPJT5AAAACJ1K
w/ the prices listed the way they are.. it looks like they base model is $10k ? $14k for a medium and $19k for a "large" wtf is this a pizza ? either these are typos or a lot of new organizations can't read
unfortunately you're preaching to the choir here, the real trick would be to get this article on CNN ;)
the SR71 flew too fast.. so tehy need something slower to do their intrusive civil rights breaking spying on americans