I wonder if Apple is considering doing some modern HTML renderer embedding a la Explorer in OSX? I have read that Sherlock will have it's own HTML pane in future, as some others here have posted.
Hallo Finlay. Could you perhaps let us know what is happening with the GTK-Quartz port. It seems according to the sourceforge page that nothing has been hapeenig for quite a while now.
I have taken a look at the sourceforge page and it seems they haven't done anything on it for quite a while now, sadly. There is another poster here fdobbie who is one of the dvelopers. Perhaps you could ask him what's happening with it.
I remember back in 1999, some time after Netscape had OS'ed the code to Gecko, reading about the state of things at Netscape in the years 1996 to 1997. I remember one netscape engineer on a forum responding that the morale of the employees was in fact extremely low and a lot of people there had this fatalistic feeling about their browser and the company. he also claimed that management had basically already given up.
This last bit is interesting because I have the feeling that while Andreessen might be a good coder(although that is debatable as well considering the desaster that NS4 turned out to be), I think he has a habit of going in the wrong direction. He says that he works with MS as a partner and we all remember what happened to Realnames. It's a dicey business and not entirely risk free.
I think Mozilla has shown that in spite of the long development time OSS can provide a truly good , uptodate, standards compliant, 100% crossplatform browser, something that even MS with their IE on the Mac has not been able to achieve. I somehow can't get rid of the feeling that he is upset that Mozilla got where it is without him.
If this is practically possible (which seems strange since it's been around for seven years now) and is not some hoax, then I could see a good use of this at airport security. It seems that it would be able to detect hidden weapons such as guns, xacto knives or knitting needles better than current systems. What would really be a problem would be the security personel getting to look at all the socialy taboo areas of the human body for free. ("Hey Jim, look at those ****, get a load of that fat freak"). I think a lot of people would object. I can see the legal battles already. In the end it might be of most use to some porno director to start a kinky new branch of the business.
1.People using other people as bullet shields. Unless it's a small gun or get's stopped by a particularly large piece of bone (the thickness of the actor's skull?) most jacketed bullets will go through the victim and into the guy behind him using him as a shield. 2.Bullets being stopped by tables, car doors or trunks and wodden walls. A 9mm bullet will go through about 9 half inch thick tables and will quite easily penetrate a car door or trunk and hit the people in the car. 3.The cars exploding on impact. 4.Unlimited amunition(tm) 5.The hero's ability to waste all the bad guys with his 9mm Pistol although they're firing at him with assault rifles on full auto. 6.Sound in Space(tm) (brought to you by Microsoft DirectSpace(R)) 7.Fancy aerobatics in Space(tm) 8.Drag in Space(tm) 9.Aerodynamic spaceship that can't land on a planet (Alien got this right in the later movies) 10.Amazingly humananoid aliens(tm) 11.Slow, visible lasers. 12.The abundance of artificial gravity in space ships.
There is a lot of bitterness amongst South Africa's whites left over from their loss of power after the NP government went down in '94. This is the background to many of these disagreements and attacks etc. The present government *has* done a lot of good for the impoverished black majority of the country, but there are definitely a lot of politicians who have little qualification for the posts they occupy (is this surprising? happens all over the world). I seriously doubt that John Ashcroft could explain the mechanisms of root servers etc even if pressed to do so.
And here lies the problem. People who know what a zone file is or how it works (I myself only have a vague notion to be honest) are surely more fitting for the administration of the TLD. I very much doubt that the SA government would improve the administration in any way, but that's my opinion.
The same way many whites in SA are bitter about their loss of power and the apparent failings of the present government, there are many blacks in SA who are envious of the whites large percentage lead in tech jobs etc and therefore support the governments position on this one.
The answer, I think, lies somewhere in the middle. I think that Mr Lawrie has justified concern that some bureaucratic department setup to admin this thing will quite possibly make some royal technical desasters with it. On the other hand I understand the governments position that he should have consulted with them before moving the.za file over to the US, because, according to news here on/. the US government itself is looking to take over control of ICANN. If the government had been willing to talk to the guy and more importantly, listen to him, it would have been better for all.
Sadly, the SA government is no better at listening to individual people than any other government is.
Whether this is moral or not, Apple is basically doing a Microsoft. Buy up key companies whose technology forms the basis of certain sectors and starve the competition.
I predict they will do this with Maya as well, and if things go well, possibly Softimage.
This is a good insurance policy for them to stay alive. They have a similar position in the DTP market but eventually Quark is going to go the way of the dinosaurs and the market will be up for grabs. Most Adobe and Macromedia products are written for better integration on Windows these days with the Apple ports lacking somewhat in pollish. Apple should do more to ensure that it's niche in DTP is renewed as well.
ActiveState has their Komodo Perl IDE out I think. I think it's also based on the Mozilla code so you can either extend it very easily or do some deal with them in the licencing to do it. I would in any case assume that the Moz code is very easy to extend with XUL and RDF's.
Lewis, I wasted far too many hours over on ZDNet in the past. Don't ask why because I don't really know. Suffice to say that a Talkback post that I tried to post there in repsonse to John Carroll's first article (which amazed me, because he was and is truly the last person on earth that I would expect any unbiased opinion from) was immediately removed and ZDNet informed me that it was "a personal attack on John Carroll". That was OK by me. I know that ZDNet wavers between very pro and very anti everything attitudes which generally seem to have more to do with them trying to keep up the viewing rates and at times Microsoft's advertising budget (I don't think MS advertising comes without any strings attached) than any real pro or anti bias in any way. There have been very anti Microsoft articles there as well.
The thing is that ZDNet is a tabloid. They're a business that tries to keep visitors coming to their site and will post anything to keep the rates high. The problem is that they are losing visitors because of their extreme commercial slant and they know it and don't seem to know what to do about it. What happened to you is more a reaction to that than anything else.
I think, as the legendary CmdrTaco once said, it will be somewhere inbetween.
There is so much FUD and flaming about the future and viability of OpenSource and FairUse on the one hand and ClosedSource and IPR on the other these days that it is really difficult to make up one's mind as to what one supports.
As artists or a coders, a lot of us seem to have that idealistic streak in us that we like to share our creative efforts and quite a few of us enjoy being able to look at the sources of works without having to fear harrasment from some omnipotent Agency or company. On the other hand we need to eat and most of us wouldn't say no to high salary or royalty checks. The problem is that it seems that the big salary and royalty checks mostly go to those who control the big companies or organisations, not to small artists or codeslaves in their cubicles. I think that Bowie is right in that the situation will change, but not in the direction it will take.
It seems, gathering from the J Carroll-esque and MS funded FUD that the boys in Redmond are very, very frightened of the effect that OSS is having, even if they probably wouldn't really stand to lose much in real world terms because of their huge dominance on PC OS's. The same for the big Labels and Studios. They seem scared. I can't imagine that the amount of money that these companies and organisations are spending on their campaigns is negligable and they do stand a good chance of using their massive lobbying presence in the law and media to eventually sway a lot of things their way.
On the other side the sheer inescapability of the fact that the GPL keeping code alive in spite of attempts to kill the projects and the true benefits of many people doing small tasks on a large project and peer review and feedback means that OSS is steadily gaining ground. There is no way that Linux/Moz or OpenOffice are going to go away. And the non ownership means that people who are scared of being blackmailed by corporations can use it without fear and this fact seems to be a major factor in the industry. With musicians starting to realise that they stand to gain much more in terms of "street credibility" by releasing their works over the net, and having very little to lose in any case, the big labels are getting caught in a bind. Do they try to fight these musicians whom they don't usually treat with much respect in any case, and risk boycott actions snowballing against them (where is Metallica today?) or do they go with the flow.
I think that companies like Apple with it's open core OS, Darwin and closed UI, and SuSE's UnitedLinux and RedHat moving to models that comply with the GPL but no longer do everything for you for free (compile it yourself) are starting to address some of the shortcomings of the everything for free as in beer model. Likewise I think that the music industry, in the end will probably go for a compromise where lower quality recordings are available for download and if you want something better you pay.
I think I'm the only white South African to have openly posted here and fail to see what was was so racist about my post. A lot of Americans were talking about "Niggers" etc but I didn't see the usual crowd of embittered ex-Rhodesians drop in.
So I would point you to my post "I'm a South African" and ask you to read it again.
Further I should tell you that I think you are exhibiting exactly the problem that is rife in the government: Any criticism and and they start screaming "racists". Amazing how that helps them avoid the onus of having to be accountable for their actions doesn't it?
Typical American idiot who has no idea of what he's talking about and even less of an idea of how to spell it: It's "De Klerk" and "Apartheid". And the nationalist NP weren't disposed of by anybody. They gave up power of their own free will, and lost the first truly democratic election. Further, everyone had guns in South Africa and still do: I had one and all my friends had guns. The crime in South Africa has nothing to do with the availability of guns and everything to do with generations of very poor people suddenly not being oppressed by a very viscious police force where tortue and state sanctioned murder was common.
To dispell a few myths(at the risk of being called redundant but it seems necessary given the level of knowledge here about places not big in the news): South Africa has a white minority of some 6 million people in a country of about 42 million, the rest being mostly black of various tribes, with about 3 million of mixed race and about 1 million asians. It's pretty varied culturally and worth a visit. It was ruled by the white minority for most of it'S political history and started changing after 1989 with the ending of racialy biased laws. It had it's first truly democratic elections in 1994 which the current government, the ANC won.
It has had a lot of ups and downs and has a horrific crime rate and a lot of problems, but, in general, it has done a lot better than many whites predicted(myself included). It has won a major legal struggle against international drug companies in it's efforts to legally produce cheap , generic anti-AIDS drugs.
One of it's unsolved problems is that the government is new in historical terms and tends to do things in ridiculously bureaucratic ways. This messing with the.za domain seems to be one of those things. Basically it seems as if they are trying to make the admin of the TLD *and* registrations more available to the majority of the population which is very poor and has no internet access. While I applaud this, I think they're going about it in the wrong manner and at the wrong place. Having control of the TLD isn't going to give anybody DSL or even Dial-Up overnight and even if they had the access, they still wouldn't have the computers. My guess is that this is going to end up in a bureaucratic, corrupt mess that some other government will have to sort out in the future. But you never know.
This is the second pro-Microsoft(implicit) article written by John Carrol for ZDNet. The first was a flame article about Nokia's testimony against Microsoft in the trial.
Anyone who has ever spent any wasted hours on the ZDNet talkbacks will recognise John Carrol as one of those wierd posters who would spend hours posting responses in threads very similar to these two articles (and not always shorter either). Always very, very staunchly pro-Microsoft in any situation irrespective of what the article in question was about. Once there was an article about the trial and someone posted the obvious reference about MS using shady tactics to kill off a competitor and that this formed a big hurdle to anyone developing for Win32 because if the product was good, MS would either buy it out or kill the company. JC responded with comments about how MS made better standards than the w3c or ECMA and that anyone could build off these standards.
Basically his line has always been that:
a)Microsoft is a great company
b)MS technology is the most advanced and the best
c)MIcrosoft's technology benefit's everyone
d)MS' business model is superior
So, he does seem to be a bit obsessed. (Here's a link to his trial RFC letter: John Carrol vs. the world)
My only question I would ever have for him is why is he so worried about Microsoft going down the drain if they are in fact as superior as he claims that he has to post repeated articles about it on trash mags like ZDNet? What is also interesting about him is that he used to be a "Windows" distributed software developer and he is now a "Java and.Net" developer. It seems his employers weren't as keen on a MS only solution as he was.
Charles Mendez is the above AC. He spent ages trolling on the ZDNet talkbacks with that pitiful excuse for a website. In the end he stopped posting because even the people there were laughing at him so much.
RE: Mozilla 1.0 review. Is it just a coincidence or does dear old Rex's comment about CSS positioning not doing the same things as IE does mostly involve just one site that I know of: ZDNet, the tabloid of web news articles, owned by dear old Rex's company?
And talking about Mozilla being complex, I suppose if entering a URL or clicking on a link is complex then I must agree. And how does this relate to wading through IE's security settings and not having a clue as to what they do.
I think they all need to make a special browser for you Rex. The irony is that with Mozilla, that is possible.
If there is one there will be the other. It is the basis of free enterprise although the MPAA and the RIAA have yet to recognise this fact or act acordingly.
Just how gullible are/. readers? For Christ's sake, you see a link that mentions Iran and it's suddenly a bunch of terrorists trying to undermine the good old US of A and how, sniff, if this carries on there just won't be any more apple pie from our good patriotic RIAA and MPAA in the future. This notwithstanding the fact that the company in question is a Taiwanese company and that the same group of "intelligent people" had been critisizing the RIAA and the MPAA up and down the line ofr anything they did in the US.
So who exactly, are the racist uneducated morons here?
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This is the same company that makes IE undeletable on Windows.
Netscape7 is from AOL. Mozilla is from the Mozilla organisation.
I wonder if Apple is considering doing some modern HTML renderer embedding a la Explorer in OSX? I have read that Sherlock will have it's own HTML pane in future, as some others here have posted.
Hallo Finlay. Could you perhaps let us know what is happening with the GTK-Quartz port. It seems according to the sourceforge page that nothing has been hapeenig for quite a while now.
I have taken a look at the sourceforge page and it seems they haven't done anything on it for quite a while now, sadly. There is another poster here fdobbie who is one of the dvelopers. Perhaps you could ask him what's happening with it.
I remember back in 1999, some time after Netscape had OS'ed the code to Gecko, reading about the state of things at Netscape in the years 1996 to 1997. I remember one netscape engineer on a forum responding that the morale of the employees was in fact extremely low and a lot of people there had this fatalistic feeling about their browser and the company. he also claimed that management had basically already given up.
This last bit is interesting because I have the feeling that while Andreessen might be a good coder(although that is debatable as well considering the desaster that NS4 turned out to be), I think he has a habit of going in the wrong direction. He says that he works with MS as a partner and we all remember what happened to Realnames. It's a dicey business and not entirely risk free.
I think Mozilla has shown that in spite of the long development time OSS can provide a truly good , uptodate, standards compliant, 100% crossplatform browser, something that even MS with their IE on the Mac has not been able to achieve.
I somehow can't get rid of the feeling that he is upset that Mozilla got where it is without him.
If this is practically possible (which seems strange since it's been around for seven years now) and is not some hoax, then I could see a good use of this at airport security. It seems that it would be able to detect hidden weapons such as guns, xacto knives or knitting needles better than current systems. What would really be a problem would be the security personel getting to look at all the socialy taboo areas of the human body for free. ("Hey Jim, look at those ****, get a load of that fat freak"). I think a lot of people would object. I can see the legal battles already. In the end it might be of most use to some porno director to start a kinky new branch of the business.
Did you just get your first Linux system set up and login as root?
1.People using other people as bullet shields. Unless it's a small gun or get's stopped by a particularly large piece of bone (the thickness of the actor's skull?) most jacketed bullets will go through the victim and into the guy behind him using him as a shield.
2.Bullets being stopped by tables, car doors or trunks and wodden walls. A 9mm bullet will go through about 9 half inch thick tables and will quite easily penetrate a car door or trunk and hit the people in the car.
3.The cars exploding on impact.
4.Unlimited amunition(tm)
5.The hero's ability to waste all the bad guys with his 9mm Pistol although they're firing at him with assault rifles on full auto.
6.Sound in Space(tm) (brought to you by Microsoft DirectSpace(R))
7.Fancy aerobatics in Space(tm)
8.Drag in Space(tm)
9.Aerodynamic spaceship that can't land on a planet (Alien got this right in the later movies)
10.Amazingly humananoid aliens(tm)
11.Slow, visible lasers.
12.The abundance of artificial gravity in space ships.
There is a lot of bitterness amongst South Africa's whites left over from their loss of power after the NP government went down in '94. This is the background to many of these disagreements and attacks etc. The present government *has* done a lot of good for the impoverished black majority of the country, but there are definitely a lot of politicians who have little qualification for the posts they occupy (is this surprising? happens all over the world). I seriously doubt that John Ashcroft could explain the mechanisms of root servers etc even if pressed to do so.
.za file over to the US, because, according to news here on /. the US government itself is looking to take over control of ICANN. If the government had been willing to talk to the guy and more importantly, listen to him, it would have been better for all.
And here lies the problem. People who know what a zone file is or how it works (I myself only have a vague notion to be honest) are surely more fitting for the administration of the TLD. I very much doubt that the SA government would improve the administration in any way, but that's my opinion.
The same way many whites in SA are bitter about their loss of power and the apparent failings of the present government, there are many blacks in SA who are envious of the whites large percentage lead in tech jobs etc and therefore support the governments position on this one.
The answer, I think, lies somewhere in the middle. I think that Mr Lawrie has justified concern that some bureaucratic department setup to admin this thing will quite possibly make some royal technical desasters with it. On the other hand I understand the governments position that he should have consulted with them before moving the
Sadly, the SA government is no better at listening to individual people than any other government is.
Whether this is moral or not, Apple is basically doing a Microsoft. Buy up key companies whose technology forms the basis of certain sectors and starve the competition.
I predict they will do this with Maya as well, and if things go well, possibly Softimage.
This is a good insurance policy for them to stay alive. They have a similar position in the DTP market but eventually Quark is going to go the way of the dinosaurs and the market will be up for grabs. Most Adobe and Macromedia products are written for better integration on Windows these days with the Apple ports lacking somewhat in pollish. Apple should do more to ensure that it's niche in DTP is renewed as well.
ActiveState has their Komodo Perl IDE out I think. I think it's also based on the Mozilla code so you can either extend it very easily or do some deal with them in the licencing to do it. I would in any case assume that the Moz code is very easy to extend with XUL and RDF's.
752,000 in google.
Lewis, I wasted far too many hours over on ZDNet in the past. Don't ask why because I don't really know. Suffice to say that a Talkback post that I tried to post there in repsonse to John Carroll's first article (which amazed me, because he was and is truly the last person on earth that I would expect any unbiased opinion from) was immediately removed and ZDNet informed me that it was "a personal attack on John Carroll". That was OK by me. I know that ZDNet wavers between very pro and very anti everything attitudes which generally seem to have more to do with them trying to keep up the viewing rates and at times Microsoft's advertising budget (I don't think MS advertising comes without any strings attached) than any real pro or anti bias in any way. There have been very anti Microsoft articles there as well.
The thing is that ZDNet is a tabloid. They're a business that tries to keep visitors coming to their site and will post anything to keep the rates high. The problem is that they are losing visitors because of their extreme commercial slant and they know it and don't seem to know what to do about it. What happened to you is more a reaction to that than anything else.
Forget it and carry on.
What on earth is this meant to be?
I think, as the legendary CmdrTaco once said, it will be somewhere inbetween.
There is so much FUD and flaming about the future and viability of OpenSource and FairUse on the one hand and ClosedSource and IPR on the other these days that it is really difficult to make up one's mind as to what one supports.
As artists or a coders, a lot of us seem to have that idealistic streak in us that we like to share our creative efforts and quite a few of us enjoy being able to look at the sources of works without having to fear harrasment from some omnipotent Agency or company. On the other hand we need to eat and most of us wouldn't say no to high salary or royalty checks. The problem is that it seems that the big salary and royalty checks mostly go to those who control the big companies or organisations, not to small artists or codeslaves in their cubicles. I think that Bowie is right in that the situation will change, but not in the direction it will take.
It seems, gathering from the J Carroll-esque and MS funded FUD that the boys in Redmond are very, very frightened of the effect that OSS is having, even if they probably wouldn't really stand to lose much in real world terms because of their huge dominance on PC OS's. The same for the big Labels and Studios. They seem scared. I can't imagine that the amount of money that these companies and organisations are spending on their campaigns is negligable and they do stand a good chance of using their massive lobbying presence in the law and media to eventually sway a lot of things their way.
On the other side the sheer inescapability of the fact that the GPL keeping code alive in spite of attempts to kill the projects and the true benefits of many people doing small tasks on a large project and peer review and feedback means that OSS is steadily gaining ground. There is no way that Linux/Moz or OpenOffice are going to go away. And the non ownership means that people who are scared of being blackmailed by corporations can use it without fear and this fact seems to be a major factor in the industry. With musicians starting to realise that they stand to gain much more in terms of "street credibility" by releasing their works over the net, and having very little to lose in any case, the big labels are getting caught in a bind. Do they try to fight these musicians whom they don't usually treat with much respect in any case, and risk boycott actions snowballing against them (where is Metallica today?) or do they go with the flow.
I think that companies like Apple with it's open core OS, Darwin and closed UI, and SuSE's UnitedLinux and RedHat moving to models that comply with the GPL but no longer do everything for you for free (compile it yourself) are starting to address some of the shortcomings of the everything for free as in beer model. Likewise I think that the music industry, in the end will probably go for a compromise where lower quality recordings are available for download and if you want something better you pay.
There is a lot to be said for compromise.
I think I'm the only white South African to have openly posted here and fail to see what was was so racist about my post. A lot of Americans were talking about "Niggers" etc but I didn't see the usual crowd of embittered ex-Rhodesians drop in.
So I would point you to my post "I'm a South African" and ask you to read it again.
Further I should tell you that I think you are exhibiting exactly the problem that is rife in the government: Any criticism and and they start screaming "racists". Amazing how that helps them avoid the onus of having to be accountable for their actions doesn't it?
Typical American idiot who has no idea of what he's talking about and even less of an idea of how to spell it: It's "De Klerk" and "Apartheid". And the nationalist NP weren't disposed of by anybody. They gave up power of their own free will, and lost the first truly democratic election. Further, everyone had guns in South Africa and still do: I had one and all my friends had guns. The crime in South Africa has nothing to do with the availability of guns and everything to do with generations of very poor people suddenly not being oppressed by a very viscious police force where tortue and state sanctioned murder was common.
I used to have one. My mother has one. etc. But guns have very little to do with TLD administration in case you didn't notice.
To dispell a few myths(at the risk of being called redundant but it seems necessary given the level of knowledge here about places not big in the news): South Africa has a white minority of some 6 million people in a country of about 42 million, the rest being mostly black of various tribes, with about 3 million of mixed race and about 1 million asians. It's pretty varied culturally and worth a visit. It was ruled by the white minority for most of it'S political history and started changing after 1989 with the ending of racialy biased laws. It had it's first truly democratic elections in 1994 which the current government, the ANC won.
.za domain seems to be one of those things. Basically it seems as if they are trying to make the admin of the TLD *and* registrations more available to the majority of the population which is very poor and has no internet access. While I applaud this, I think they're going about it in the wrong manner and at the wrong place. Having control of the TLD isn't going to give anybody DSL or even Dial-Up overnight and even if they had the access, they still wouldn't have the computers. My guess is that this is going to end up in a bureaucratic, corrupt mess that some other government will have to sort out in the future. But you never know.
It has had a lot of ups and downs and has a horrific crime rate and a lot of problems, but, in general, it has done a lot better than many whites predicted(myself included). It has won a major legal struggle against international drug companies in it's efforts to legally produce cheap , generic anti-AIDS drugs.
One of it's unsolved problems is that the government is new in historical terms and tends to do things in ridiculously bureaucratic ways. This messing with the
This is the second pro-Microsoft(implicit) article written by John Carrol for ZDNet. The first was a flame article about Nokia's testimony against Microsoft in the trial.
.Net" developer. It seems his employers weren't as keen on a MS only solution as he was.
Anyone who has ever spent any wasted hours on the ZDNet talkbacks will recognise John Carrol as one of those wierd posters who would spend hours posting responses in threads very similar to these two articles (and not always shorter either). Always very, very staunchly pro-Microsoft in any situation irrespective of what the article in question was about. Once there was an article about the trial and someone posted the obvious reference about MS using shady tactics to kill off a competitor and that this formed a big hurdle to anyone developing for Win32 because if the product was good, MS would either buy it out or kill the company. JC responded with comments about how MS made better standards than the w3c or ECMA and that anyone could build off these standards.
Basically his line has always been that:
a)Microsoft is a great company
b)MS technology is the most advanced and the best
c)MIcrosoft's technology benefit's everyone
d)MS' business model is superior
So, he does seem to be a bit obsessed. (Here's a link to his trial RFC letter: John Carrol vs. the world)
My only question I would ever have for him is why is he so worried about Microsoft going down the drain if they are in fact as superior as he claims that he has to post repeated articles about it on trash mags like ZDNet? What is also interesting about him is that he used to be a "Windows" distributed software developer and he is now a "Java and
Charles Mendez is the above AC. He spent ages trolling on the ZDNet talkbacks with that pitiful excuse for a website. In the end he stopped posting because even the people there were laughing at him so much.
RE: Mozilla 1.0 review. Is it just a coincidence or does dear old Rex's comment about CSS positioning not doing the same things as IE does mostly involve just one site that I know of: ZDNet, the tabloid of web news articles, owned by dear old Rex's company?
And talking about Mozilla being complex, I suppose if entering a URL or clicking on a link is complex then I must agree. And how does this relate to wading through IE's security settings and not having a clue as to what they do.
I think they all need to make a special browser for you Rex. The irony is that with Mozilla, that is possible.
If there is one there will be the other. It is the basis of free enterprise although the MPAA and the RIAA have yet to recognise this fact or act acordingly.
Just how gullible are /. readers? For Christ's sake, you see a link that mentions Iran and it's suddenly a bunch of terrorists trying to undermine the good old US of A and how, sniff, if this carries on there just won't be any more apple pie from our good patriotic RIAA and MPAA in the future. This notwithstanding the fact that the company in question is a Taiwanese company and that the same group of "intelligent people" had been critisizing the RIAA and the MPAA up and down the line ofr anything they did in the US.
So who exactly, are the racist uneducated morons here?