So you claim, but we've been hearing that for 5 years now and the sky hasn't fallen yet Chicken Little.
That's because there has been rather little use of mono in the free software world. Once the Gnome core becomes mono or something similar, then we'll see.
Fortunately there are quite a lot of developers in the Linux world that think like I do, so for now the risk is small.
reetardo Jones doesn't get the reason for the negative feelings about mono at all. They originated because of the way mono is conceived to lure Linux developers into using software whose api is completely controlled by Microsoft but without its blessing.
Once too many Linux packages depend on mono, I'm sure we'll get some patent/copyright saber-rattling from Microsoft.
Then there's the technical aspect that mono will always be running behing the microsoft C#/CLI version, and so your Linux mono application will generally not even run on Windows, or if it's running will be unappealing because it feels old to the MS user. Windows platform cli application almost never run on Linux, so that's not an advantage either.
So all in all we have here a technology that is offering nothing much, for a great future risk. No wonder we avoid it like Pfeiffers disease (or mononucleosis).
If one wants to develop great crossplatform apps, use Qt, it has all and more of the advantages, and none of the risks.
If you want a REALLY REALLY GOOD wordprocessor for Macs give Mellel a shot.
OpenType support has been included forever, plus tons of other high end features.
And it costs pretty much nothing $49)
Ever thought about that? The fact that supermarkets (in English speaking countries) have a "health food" aisle.
It's staggeringly obvious that what's being sold in the other aisles is typically not very healthy.
Also: why is a vegetarian burger at least 5 times more expensive than a beef burger? It should be cheaper because it takes far less resources to produce that amount of protein. Probably industry subsidies? In general it's far more expensive to eat healthy food, than non-healthy. Still I'd rather have less money than less health.
Fat people always sweat, so are you suggesting they're always exercising?
Well I guess you're right. If I was lugging around a 50kg backpack all the time, it would be exercise. But not when I'm sitting on the couch.
It's amazing that this event happened.
And even more amazing that a large part of the posters here seem to somehow blame the event on the 'douchebag' guy because he didn't bend over and say sir yes sir to the security people.
Funny. I programmed assembly on the original ARM processor (on the Acorn Archimedes). That instruction set was by far the cleanest that I've ever seen on any cpu. Pure risc. Apparently things have gotten uglier since.
Maybe you can write the flash a zillion times while the os is still running until you run over the maximum number of write cycles. It seems you can only write the flash during reboots but maybe that is not actually the case.
I mean seriously. The nastiest microprocessor architecture that anyone has ever come up with is x86. It's an Intel cultural thing, all their processors (afaik) suffer from this.
Joke?
Maybe not, maybe someone used that strfry function for some statistics demonstration code, and found out that it had statistical anomalies.
Instead of being glad that someone finds bugs in his code (apparently that person was using strfry) and even proposes the fix for him, he gets all snotty and offensive.
I think mr. Drepper should not be in a position as public leader of a project like this. Maybe they can put him in a cage with a high end computer or something, but the job of package maintainer also requires people skills, and an overall understanding of what the package is actually used for (including embedded and strfry apparently).
When I got my Apple][ clone (ca. 1980) it came with basic and that's it. I knew assembly language programming, and the computer manual came with the processor instruction set (or I got that some other way).
Anyway, I wrote a macro assembler in basic, so that I could write applications that were faster than possible with the basic interpreter.
That was good fun:-)
So true.
I have been a freelance software developer for the last 10 years, but I do have health-care coverage, like everyone else here in the Netherlands.
If I should become incapable of earning a living with software, I'll get in trouble, no doubt about it, but I don't think I'll be digging through the trash for food.
I'm from the Netherlands where we're taxed somewhat more than you US-ians. I must say we have plenty of small businesses; from my many visits to the US, I guess we might have relatively more small businesses that are not part of some chain than in the US actually. This is just from looking around though, I have no data.
Thank you for that interesting link!
One of the things that really worries me about this whole 'climate science' thing is the incredible amount of ego, posturing and politics involved. I started years ago with just assuming that the climate scientist were knowing what they're talking about. I'm a physicist, and know how science in physics works, and I pressumed that it would be the same in climate science. But then these creeps like Al Gore started adding their (considerable) weight to the debate with the science is settled.
Ofcourse the science can't be settled. Hardly any science is settled, let alone one as young as complex and as unexperimentable as climate science. Then I went to a lecture by Amsterdam Paleo-Ecology professor Dr. Bas van Geel, who clearly showed that there are definitely many open ends and that it's unsure what proportion of the warm late 20th century is due to manmade CO2.
It bothers the hell out of me that something that has such large consequences already (extra taxes and such), and maybe large consequences in the future (real climate change, caused by us) is being run like a bloody kindergarten. I'm pretty sure that the late Richard Feynman would have called climate science an example of his Cargo Cult Sciences, that uses the tools of physics without its way of thinking.
All in all it bothers me that both sides (Mann, Watts, Hansen) have political agendas and use their positions (important blog, head of GISS) to pervert this whole process of collecting knowledge. I'm fairly sure we'll know quite a bit more in the coming decades, and for know it pleases me that the majority of the population is becoming as sceptical as I am.
So how would you do that? Test every chemical? The natural world on its own already has millions of different compounds, many of them toxic, some of them scarily toxic (box jelly fish toxin, botulinus toxin).
We don't have the capability to test everything, we don't have the capability to test even a fraction, we don't have good methods for testing low toxicity compounds, we don't have methods for testing carcinogenicity in humans at all, because we can't experiment
All we have are epidemiological studies that are typically so polluted with cross-correlations that the honest ones will not provide any definite answers.
Welcome to the real world.
Or did you forget your sarcasm/funny tag when you wrote every
They once analyzed all the constituents of coffee (hundreds) and found that a quarter or so of them are carcinogenic. So we all should be pretty much dead by now.
So how do you study carcinogenicity: Simple. You feed a couple of rodents that you don't particularly like 5% of their bodyweight of a certain stuff each day, and see how many of them develop cancer within their short lifespans. Now comes the fun part: You extrapolate the 5% bodyweight daily ratio to 1 ppm bodyweight daily ratio, and similary divide the rate of mammal acquiring cancer. Voila, a new PhD promotion based on the completely meritless assumption that there is any kind of linearity involved in these rates.
I know a lot of current research is not so stupid, but most of the 1970's cancer scares were based pretty much on the scenario I just described.
Determining whether or not a compound is carcinogenic in humans is extremely hard, except for the really bad ones.
What a pile of baloney
We (the Dutch) will always be raising our dikes, because the land is slowly compacting because we have taken it from the bottom of the see. The fact that we built the 'afsluitdijk' (32 km through the North Sea) which was finished in 1932 shows that we will damn well raise the dikes when it becomes necessary, and it's absolutely bollocks to suggest that we have to start now because the oceans might be rising a meter or so in a century. nonsense
And apart from that, the oceans are not rising at the moment, and even more damning, the heat content of the oceans over the last few years has dropped. You can find the links on this site. It will definitely turn out that the sun is a larger driver of climate than has been proposed by many, and we will all notice that in the coming years, because the sun is currently entering pretty much a state of hibernation (especially magnetically).
Knowing how to cobble together an efficient toolchain from shellscripting, Makefiles, aap/scons, cgi-scripts, doxygen, some Python will make you a much more productive programmer than the typical Eclipse expert user that is unable to do anything when there's no Eclipse plugin for a certain task.
The command line rules for pretty much any kind of automatic testing, building and deployment, but the large majority of IT professionals these days seem to be unaware of this.
Apparently ls-studio was an agency that sold 'suggestive' photographs of Russian and Ukranian minors up to 2004. See this explanation. The current site has absolutely nothing to do with photographs, and just intermediates for apartment rentals in France.
This kind of nonsense is exactly why there should be no censorship, but unfortunately the sheople will eat anything as long as it is flavored with the terrorism or childporn spice.
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That's because there has been rather little use of mono in the free software world. Once the Gnome core becomes mono or something similar, then we'll see.
Fortunately there are quite a lot of developers in the Linux world that think like I do, so for now the risk is small.
Then there's the technical aspect that mono will always be running behing the microsoft C#/CLI version, and so your Linux mono application will generally not even run on Windows, or if it's running will be unappealing because it feels old to the MS user. Windows platform cli application almost never run on Linux, so that's not an advantage either.
So all in all we have here a technology that is offering nothing much, for a great future risk. No wonder we avoid it like Pfeiffers disease (or mononucleosis).
If one wants to develop great crossplatform apps, use Qt, it has all and more of the advantages, and none of the risks.
If you want a REALLY REALLY GOOD wordprocessor for Macs give Mellel a shot. OpenType support has been included forever, plus tons of other high end features.
And it costs pretty much nothing $49)
The last two Linux Journal magazines had articles on disaster recovery: Hack and / - When Disaster Strikes: Attack of the rm Command and Hack and / - When Disaster Strikes: Restoring a Master Boot Record.
Good luck
It's staggeringly obvious that what's being sold in the other aisles is typically not very healthy.
Also: why is a vegetarian burger at least 5 times more expensive than a beef burger? It should be cheaper because it takes far less resources to produce that amount of protein. Probably industry subsidies?
In general it's far more expensive to eat healthy food, than non-healthy. Still I'd rather have less money than less health.
Fat people always sweat, so are you suggesting they're always exercising?
Well I guess you're right. If I was lugging around a 50kg backpack all the time, it would be exercise.
But not when I'm sitting on the couch.
God you're a dumb shit aren't you.
And even more amazing that a large part of the posters here seem to somehow blame the event on the 'douchebag' guy because he didn't bend over and say sir yes sir to the security people.
Sad.
Funny. I programmed assembly on the original ARM processor (on the Acorn Archimedes). That instruction set was by far the cleanest that I've ever seen on any cpu. Pure risc. Apparently things have gotten uglier since.
Maybe you can write the flash a zillion times while the os is still running until you run over the maximum number of write cycles. It seems you can only write the flash during reboots but maybe that is not actually the case.
I mean seriously. The nastiest microprocessor architecture that anyone has ever come up with is x86. It's an Intel cultural thing, all their processors (afaik) suffer from this.
Maybe not, maybe someone used that strfry function for some statistics demonstration code, and found out that it had statistical anomalies.
Instead of being glad that someone finds bugs in his code (apparently that person was using strfry) and even proposes the fix for him, he gets all snotty and offensive.
I think mr. Drepper should not be in a position as public leader of a project like this. Maybe they can put him in a cage with a high end computer or something, but the job of package maintainer also requires people skills, and an overall understanding of what the package is actually used for (including embedded and strfry apparently).
When I got my Apple][ clone (ca. 1980) it came with basic and that's it. I knew assembly language programming, and the computer manual came with the processor instruction set (or I got that some other way). Anyway, I wrote a macro assembler in basic, so that I could write applications that were faster than possible with the basic interpreter. That was good fun :-)
So true. I have been a freelance software developer for the last 10 years, but I do have health-care coverage, like everyone else here in the Netherlands. If I should become incapable of earning a living with software, I'll get in trouble, no doubt about it, but I don't think I'll be digging through the trash for food.
I'm from the Netherlands where we're taxed somewhat more than you US-ians. I must say we have plenty of small businesses; from my many visits to the US, I guess we might have relatively more small businesses that are not part of some chain than in the US actually. This is just from looking around though, I have no data.
Thank you for that interesting link!
One of the things that really worries me about this whole 'climate science' thing is the incredible amount of ego, posturing and politics involved. I started years ago with just assuming that the climate scientist were knowing what they're talking about. I'm a physicist, and know how science in physics works, and I pressumed that it would be the same in climate science. But then these creeps like Al Gore started adding their (considerable) weight to the debate with the science is settled.
Ofcourse the science can't be settled. Hardly any science is settled, let alone one as young as complex and as unexperimentable as climate science.
Then I went to a lecture by Amsterdam Paleo-Ecology professor Dr. Bas van Geel, who clearly showed that there are definitely many open ends and that it's unsure what proportion of the warm late 20th century is due to manmade CO2.
It bothers the hell out of me that something that has such large consequences already (extra taxes and such), and maybe large consequences in the future (real climate change, caused by us) is being run like a bloody kindergarten. I'm pretty sure that the late Richard Feynman would have called climate science an example of his Cargo Cult Sciences, that uses the tools of physics without its way of thinking.
All in all it bothers me that both sides (Mann, Watts, Hansen) have political agendas and use their positions (important blog, head of GISS) to pervert this whole process of collecting knowledge.
I'm fairly sure we'll know quite a bit more in the coming decades, and for know it pleases me that the majority of the population is becoming as sceptical as I am.
Here's a chart of the global hurricane index. It's the lowest it has been in the last 30 years!.
That is probably because the globe's ocean heatcontent is dropping
Would you mind telling why we should treat manmade compounds different from nature made compounds? Say for instance PTFE versus wasp poision?
So how would you do that? Test every chemical? The natural world on its own already has millions of different compounds, many of them toxic, some of them scarily toxic (box jelly fish toxin, botulinus toxin).
We don't have the capability to test everything, we don't have the capability to test even a fraction, we don't have good methods for testing low toxicity compounds, we don't have methods for testing carcinogenicity in humans at all, because we can't experiment
All we have are epidemiological studies that are typically so polluted with cross-correlations that the honest ones will not provide any definite answers.
Welcome to the real world.
Or did you forget your sarcasm/funny tag when you wrote every
So how do you study carcinogenicity: Simple. You feed a couple of rodents that you don't particularly like 5% of their bodyweight of a certain stuff each day, and see how many of them develop cancer within their short lifespans. Now comes the fun part: You extrapolate the 5% bodyweight daily ratio to 1 ppm bodyweight daily ratio, and similary divide the rate of mammal acquiring cancer. Voila, a new PhD promotion based on the completely meritless assumption that there is any kind of linearity involved in these rates.
I know a lot of current research is not so stupid, but most of the 1970's cancer scares were based pretty much on the scenario I just described.
Determining whether or not a compound is carcinogenic in humans is extremely hard, except for the really bad ones.
We (the Dutch) will always be raising our dikes, because the land is slowly compacting because we have taken it from the bottom of the see. The fact that we built the 'afsluitdijk' (32 km through the North Sea) which was finished in 1932 shows that we will damn well raise the dikes when it becomes necessary, and it's absolutely bollocks to suggest that we have to start now because the oceans might be rising a meter or so in a century.
nonsense
And apart from that, the oceans are not rising at the moment, and even more damning, the heat content of the oceans over the last few years has dropped. You can find the links on this site. It will definitely turn out that the sun is a larger driver of climate than has been proposed by many, and we will all notice that in the coming years, because the sun is currently entering pretty much a state of hibernation (especially magnetically).
What do you think scientology is!
Knowing how to cobble together an efficient toolchain from shellscripting, Makefiles, aap/scons, cgi-scripts, doxygen, some Python will make you a much more productive programmer than the typical Eclipse expert user that is unable to do anything when there's no Eclipse plugin for a certain task.
The command line rules for pretty much any kind of automatic testing, building and deployment, but the large majority of IT professionals these days seem to be unaware of this.
Bart
This kind of nonsense is exactly why there should be no censorship, but unfortunately the sheople will eat anything as long as it is flavored with the terrorism or childporn spice.
I had a look at the list and the first one I clicked on is ls-studio.org/. Seems to be a site that intermediates for appartment rentals
Bart