our ad agency is almost exclusively macs, and with our current growth, we have quite a few new iMacs and G4's running OS 9. We've been playing with this all afternoon, and haven't had a hiccup.
Nooo... read it again. You must distribute source for anything you give to others if it came to you under the GPL, whether you've modified it or not.
I think he's asking if he has to distribute the source to *HIS* program. ie: Program FOOBAR is completely original code, but it happens to run on a GNU/Linux system. Granted, he has to distribute sources to the Linux system... but, being that it's completely original code, I wouldn't think he has to distribute the sources to FOOBAR.
Similarly... I have to wonder. If one wrote an OS (in this case, the utilies, programs, and interfaces) but happened to use Linus's kernel... would they have to distribute the source to the entire OS... or just the kernel? I'm thinking just the kernel...
Huh? How is Coke a monopoly? Pepsi has 30% market share,
Even moreso... You can walk down the aisle of your local grocery store and pick from any number of discount brands. Having had a Coke in the past does not cause your stomache to build up the inability to drink other soft drinks, and you can have RC Cola *and* Coke sitting peacefully on your shelf together.
Monopolies are supposed to be rare in a capitolism enviroment, but they do change all everything. So long as there is no monopoly capitalism works great, once there is a monopoly all the grand things of capitolism don't work.
Monopolies, per se, are not evil, vile, grotesque beings. We have several well behaving monopolies just scattered around. Some power companies behave themselves (I can't speak for my local here in Dallas, but the power company in my hometown in south Texas was decent). WalMart, nationally, doesn't really have a monopoly... but in my hometown, their an effective monopoly, but their prices continue to stay down, and they hire half the community, so there's more good done than harm. Some family businesses went under, but in the resultant monopoly economy, WalMart didn't gouge consumers... and everyone's happy.
Then you have Microsoft. The come in, they drive you out of business, then rape your intellectual property. That's another story altogether.....
OS 9 is certainly much closer to OS 8 than it is to OS X. OS 9 was originally slated to be called MacOS 8.7, but someone shuffled some papers, and viola, we have a new name.
BTW... OS 9 will run on virtually an PCI PowerMac... OS X will likely only run on G3's or higher.
This makes me worry. The new iMac is a pretty cool design from a pure hardware standpoint. But leaving out the fan might be a bad idea.
All things aside... the home-market PCs you refer to are Pentium II/III machines in clunky beige cases with one vent port at the back (which, in MY house, is up next to a wall, which makes it that much less efficient). The entire Pentium line can, at best, be described as heat-inefficient, as well. Many G3's these days don't even require heat sinks, and the high end G3's require sinks similar to what you find on a mid-ranged Socket-7 processor.
Compare to the heaping mass aluminum heat sink on the Pentium II that I'm using at the current moment. In dissipating more heat away from the processor, you're releasing more heat to the air... then you have to move the air.....
Apple has traditionally offered free OS upgrades to users who purchased machines (or OS's) within about 60 days of the release of a new(er) OS. My guess would be that they'll all come with mail in vouchers for the upgrade, as they did with users who purchased OS 8.1 systems immediately before OS 8.5 was released.
Also of note... Jobs said, during the unveiling, that the iMacs had "already shipped" and would be in stores this weekend (the CompUSA rep I spoke with in Dallas told me mid-next week) and that OS 9 would ship October 23. Exact date.
Typically (with a notable exception or two) Apple's been pretty good at hitting a date when they set it. It's when they say "Um, Next Month" that they tend to slip. Coupled with the fact that OS 9 has been declared "Gold Master", I'm guessing that their ship date will be met.
How much does the average (or even high end) user REALLY use removable media, aside from CDs? I haven't used a floppy disk in either my PC at home OR my Mac(s) at work in years even before the iMacs first came out. I have a built in Zip drive in my Blue G3 at work, but I can count on one hand the number of times that I've used it.
The floppy served us well, but face it, it's DEAD. What fits on a floppy, anyway? Nothing of note, certainly. In the age of File Servers, Intranets, Extranets, and Internets, re-writable removable media isn't all that necesary.
Our advertising agency does virtually ALL media delivery electronically through AP AdSend or Wam!Net, with a smidgeon of ISDN running around, and all intra-office file sharing is accomplished through our file servers.
All hail the benevolent Floppy! Her years were long, hard, and well served... but her day is gone.
Those ads they showed always pissed me off though, is someone forgetting there's a little thing such as an ISP?
Not at all. They do something very similar to every PC manufacturer on the planet... They have a deal with a national ISP (earthlink in this case). When you boot your iMac, it runs a configurer that asks if you already have an ISP (and to enter the info if you do). If you specify that you don't, it runs a little program that dials up Earthlink, gives them your billing information, and gets you on-line.
I recieve the email as well. At the bottom, they were nice *cough* enough to allow you to remove yourself from their spam list, as such: If you do not wish to receive e-mail from Network Solutions, click on this e-mail address and type "remove" in the subject line. PLEASE NOTE: by opting to be removed from this list we will not be able to communicate to you, in real-time, on issues regarding your account.
but of course, you by doing you, you also lose the ability to correspond with NSI altogether. Complete BS, in my opinion.
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Most excellently put. The gripes about this are very real, but very "played up", so-to-speak. I think what scares most people is that, if there's a facility for this kind of wiretapping, unauthorized "baddies" will figure out how to use it. This possibility bugs me (no pun intended) but to be honest, I am of the "well, I'm not doing anything illegal" mindset.
And isn't there some law about not being able to use information against you that was discovered while looking for something else?
Yes. and No. Here's my understanding, though I may have been mislead/misinformed at one point or another: FBI is investigating A for being a terrorist. FBI taps A's girlfriend. You (B) call A's Girlfriend and the FBI listens in. During this, you admit to axe murdering your aunt Louise.
If my understanding is correct, the FBI is allowed to hand over those tapes if there's already an investigation into poor Louise's murder. Otherwise, they can't do much.
OTOH, if you call A's woman up and admit to taking part in the terrorist activities of A (which they are already investigating and is the target of their tap), you've implicated yourself pretty smoothly, and can expect an MiB type to show up at your door within the hour. It doesn't matter if they previously suspected you or that you weren't the specified human target.
I'm not a lawyer though, so I could easily be mistaken.
As for the color, I think Apple should just stick to the current 5. It's not meant for corporate use, so why should corporate people care what color it is?
While they're not specifically geared towards corporate use, they're getting a lot of exposure out there anyway. At the ad firm I work for, we typically purchase Blue G3's (and, shortly, G4's) for our artist-type users, and iMacs for general office-type users, as well as receptionists.
That being said, we love the colors. Our Top Dog wouldn't let our main receptionist have a computer, as the beige didn'd match the marble counter top she worked on. The strawberry iMac matches wonderfully, and she has a computer. Finally.
Everyone hates the mice though.... we collected them, and hung them off of my bumper when I got married...
I used to work for a school district near Dallas. We had 2 Techs and 60 schools. Something on the order or 1000-1500 macs.
The AIO Macs were a godsend, as they required far less maintenance (2 techs, entire district, as opposed to a single tech for each PC lab we had). And I can only think of one instance where we upgraded anything. We had to stick an extra 16mb RAM chip in all of the AIO LC575's and LC580's so that the teachers could run netscape (on a whopping 24mb of RAM). Our teachers/librarians were able to do anything short of formating the hard drive (minor exceptions applied)...
When the iMac came along, we rejoiced. The (then) current line of Mac AIO computers were G3's that massed a killer 60lbs and were as unweildy as a wet tuna with KY smeared all over it. My fellow tech and I were able to set up 23 new labs (approx 30 imacs each) in just under a month. Our main bottle neck was waiting for the wiring tech to install Cat 5 wiring for us. With AirPort,.... all I can say is "wow."
I encountered similar problems... some of the time. Some users I encountered this error. Others I did not. The exact error was in the vein of a "permission denied" error and looked as though it may have been caused by simultaneous logons (possible), or system overload (unlikely).
I have a hotmail account that I used when I worked at an ISP. We used it to test whether our mail filters were config'd properly. I suspect they still use it there, as the account is still there, though (i just saw) it has about 8 months of cumulative porn spam in it. I was able to read every one of them....
The "oh-my-god-we-have-to-protect-everyone-from-everyt hing" point of view stems mostly from today's politicians who are bored with today's lack of "real" problems (war, famine, pestulance) and feel that they need to dig up new problems and make the public care about them.
If you'll notice, it's increasingly evident that the only people that are spouting this inane rhetoric are lawmakers (and mostly democrats intent on the total control of information, but with a healthy contingent from the Religious Right, as well). The general public doesn't give a damn either way, and that's a Bad Thing(tm). Today's apathy on issues like this is what is leading us to an age of where the government will be empowered to dictate the content of our sites, as well as our lives, to us.
Past tyranies have come about because citizens blindly put their faith into religious monarchies and by letting themselves get caught up into patriotic rhetoric spewing from the mouths of maniacs in uniforms. Today, however, we are falling victim to a behemoth of tyrany not because we've been fooled, or caught up in the moment. We are falling because we don't care.
Raise the alarm. Howl, screetch, clatter, make noise. but be informative. people who know nothing about computers are making decisions that will forever change the way the public perceives computers, and how we may use them.
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our ad agency is almost exclusively macs, and with our current growth, we have quite a few new iMacs and G4's running OS 9. We've been playing with this all afternoon, and haven't had a hiccup.
Nooo... read it again. You must distribute source for anything you give to others if it came to you under the GPL, whether you've modified it or not.
I think he's asking if he has to distribute the source to *HIS* program. ie: Program FOOBAR is completely original code, but it happens to run on a GNU/Linux system. Granted, he has to distribute sources to the Linux system... but, being that it's completely original code, I wouldn't think he has to distribute the sources to FOOBAR.
Similarly... I have to wonder. If one wrote an OS (in this case, the utilies, programs, and interfaces) but happened to use Linus's kernel... would they have to distribute the source to the entire OS... or just the kernel? I'm thinking just the kernel...
I just tell my wife all of my passwords. Women are WONDERFUL at remembering non-trivial things like this.
;)
The oil light on the other hand...
Huh? How is Coke a monopoly? Pepsi has 30% market share,
... and everyone's happy.
Even moreso... You can walk down the aisle of your local grocery store and pick from any number of discount brands. Having had a Coke in the past does not cause your stomache to build up the inability to drink other soft drinks, and you can have RC Cola *and* Coke sitting peacefully on your shelf together.
Monopolies are supposed to be rare in a capitolism enviroment, but they do change all everything. So long as there is no monopoly capitalism works great, once there is a monopoly all the grand things of capitolism don't work.
Monopolies, per se, are not evil, vile, grotesque beings. We have several well behaving monopolies just scattered around. Some power companies behave themselves (I can't speak for my local here in Dallas, but the power company in my hometown in south Texas was decent). WalMart, nationally, doesn't really have a monopoly... but in my hometown, their an effective monopoly, but their prices continue to stay down, and they hire half the community, so there's more good done than harm. Some family businesses went under, but in the resultant monopoly economy, WalMart didn't gouge consumers
Then you have Microsoft. The come in, they drive you out of business, then rape your intellectual property. That's another story altogether.....
Does anyone here really know whether the problem they're reacting to is with the chip or the motherboard?
Supposedly the problem is with 500+ MHz versions of the processor. And supposedly, the speed reduction was so that they could ship SOMETHING.
OS 9 is certainly much closer to OS 8 than it is to OS X. OS 9 was originally slated to be called MacOS 8.7, but someone shuffled some papers, and viola, we have a new name.
BTW... OS 9 will run on virtually an PCI PowerMac... OS X will likely only run on G3's or higher.
This makes me worry. The new iMac is a pretty cool design from a pure hardware standpoint. But leaving out the fan might be a bad idea.
All things aside... the home-market PCs you refer to are Pentium II/III machines in clunky beige cases with one vent port at the back (which, in MY house, is up next to a wall, which makes it that much less efficient). The entire Pentium line can, at best, be described as heat-inefficient, as well. Many G3's these days don't even require heat sinks, and the high end G3's require sinks similar to what you find on a mid-ranged Socket-7 processor.
Compare to the heaping mass aluminum heat sink on the Pentium II that I'm using at the current moment. In dissipating more heat away from the processor, you're releasing more heat to the air... then you have to move the air.....
again, just my $0.02
Apple has traditionally offered free OS upgrades to users who purchased machines (or OS's) within about 60 days of the release of a new(er) OS. My guess would be that they'll all come with mail in vouchers for the upgrade, as they did with users who purchased OS 8.1 systems immediately before OS 8.5 was released.
Also of note... Jobs said, during the unveiling, that the iMacs had "already shipped" and would be in stores this weekend (the CompUSA rep I spoke with in Dallas told me mid-next week) and that OS 9 would ship October 23. Exact date.
Typically (with a notable exception or two) Apple's been pretty good at hitting a date when they set it. It's when they say "Um, Next Month" that they tend to slip. Coupled with the fact that OS 9 has been declared "Gold Master", I'm guessing that their ship date will be met.
Just my $0.02
How much does the average (or even high end) user REALLY use removable media, aside from CDs? I haven't used a floppy disk in either my PC at home OR my Mac(s) at work in years even before the iMacs first came out. I have a built in Zip drive in my Blue G3 at work, but I can count on one hand the number of times that I've used it.
The floppy served us well, but face it, it's DEAD. What fits on a floppy, anyway? Nothing of note, certainly. In the age of File Servers, Intranets, Extranets, and Internets, re-writable removable media isn't all that necesary.
Our advertising agency does virtually ALL media delivery electronically through AP AdSend or Wam!Net, with a smidgeon of ISDN running around, and all intra-office file sharing is accomplished through our file servers.
All hail the benevolent Floppy! Her years were long, hard, and well served... but her day is gone.
It's about damned time something happened...
Yesterday, I received a bill from NSI postmarked September 25, 1999. Of course, the DUE DATE was listed as Sept 15, 1999.
Given nothing else, that alone lends little to public confidence in a company...
Those ads they showed always pissed me off though, is someone forgetting there's a little thing such as an ISP?
Not at all. They do something very similar to every PC manufacturer on the planet... They have a deal with a national ISP (earthlink in this case). When you boot your iMac, it runs a configurer that asks if you already have an ISP (and to enter the info if you do). If you specify that you don't, it runs a little program that dials up Earthlink, gives them your billing information, and gets you on-line.
I recieve the email as well. At the bottom, they were nice *cough* enough to allow you to remove yourself from their spam list, as such:
If you do not wish to receive e-mail from Network Solutions, click on this e-mail address and type "remove" in the subject line.
PLEASE NOTE: by opting to be removed from this list we will not be able to communicate to you, in real-time, on issues regarding your account.
but of course, you by doing you, you also lose the ability to correspond with NSI altogether. Complete BS, in my opinion.
Most excellently put. The gripes about this are very real, but very "played up", so-to-speak. I think what scares most people is that, if there's a facility for this kind of wiretapping, unauthorized "baddies" will figure out how to use it. This possibility bugs me (no pun intended) but to be honest, I am of the "well, I'm not doing anything illegal" mindset.
And isn't there some law about not being able to use information against you that was discovered while looking for something else?
Yes. and No. Here's my understanding, though I may have been mislead/misinformed at one point or another:
FBI is investigating A for being a terrorist.
FBI taps A's girlfriend.
You (B) call A's Girlfriend and the FBI listens in. During this, you admit to axe murdering your aunt Louise.
If my understanding is correct, the FBI is allowed to hand over those tapes if there's already an investigation into poor Louise's murder. Otherwise, they can't do much.
OTOH, if you call A's woman up and admit to taking part in the terrorist activities of A (which they are already investigating and is the target of their tap), you've implicated yourself pretty smoothly, and can expect an MiB type to show up at your door within the hour. It doesn't matter if they previously suspected you or that you weren't the specified human target.
I'm not a lawyer though, so I could easily be mistaken.
As for the color, I think Apple should just stick to the current 5. It's not meant for corporate use, so why should corporate people care what color it is?
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While they're not specifically geared towards corporate use, they're getting a lot of exposure out there anyway. At the ad firm I work for, we typically purchase Blue G3's (and, shortly, G4's) for our artist-type users, and iMacs for general office-type users, as well as receptionists.
That being said, we love the colors. Our Top Dog wouldn't let our main receptionist have a computer, as the beige didn'd match the marble counter top she worked on. The strawberry iMac matches wonderfully, and she has a computer. Finally.
Everyone hates the mice though.... we collected them, and hung them off of my bumper when I got married...
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I used to work for a school district near Dallas. We had 2 Techs and 60 schools. Something on the order or 1000-1500 macs.
.... all I can say is "wow."
The AIO Macs were a godsend, as they required far less maintenance (2 techs, entire district, as opposed to a single tech for each PC lab we had). And I can only think of one instance where we upgraded anything. We had to stick an extra 16mb RAM chip in all of the AIO LC575's and LC580's so that the teachers could run netscape (on a whopping 24mb of RAM). Our teachers/librarians were able to do anything short of formating the hard drive (minor exceptions applied)...
When the iMac came along, we rejoiced. The (then) current line of Mac AIO computers were G3's that massed a killer 60lbs and were as unweildy as a wet tuna with KY smeared all over it. My fellow tech and I were able to set up 23 new labs (approx 30 imacs each) in just under a month. Our main bottle neck was waiting for the wiring tech to install Cat 5 wiring for us. With AirPort,
I encountered similar problems... some of the time. Some users I encountered this error. Others I did not. The exact error was in the vein of a "permission denied" error and looked as though it may have been caused by simultaneous logons (possible), or system overload (unlikely).
I have a hotmail account that I used when I worked at an ISP. We used it to test whether our mail filters were config'd properly. I suspect they still use it there, as the account is still there, though (i just saw) it has about 8 months of cumulative porn spam in it. I was able to read every one of them....
The "oh-my-god-we-have-to-protect-everyone-from-everyt hing" point of view stems mostly from today's politicians who are bored with today's lack of "real" problems (war, famine, pestulance) and feel that they need to dig up new problems and make the public care about them.
If you'll notice, it's increasingly evident that the only people that are spouting this inane rhetoric are lawmakers (and mostly democrats intent on the total control of information, but with a healthy contingent from the Religious Right, as well). The general public doesn't give a damn either way, and that's a Bad Thing(tm). Today's apathy on issues like this is what is leading us to an age of where the government will be empowered to dictate the content of our sites, as well as our lives, to us.
Past tyranies have come about because citizens blindly put their faith into religious monarchies and by letting themselves get caught up into patriotic rhetoric spewing from the mouths of maniacs in uniforms. Today, however, we are falling victim to a behemoth of tyrany not because we've been fooled, or caught up in the moment. We are falling because we don't care.
Raise the alarm. Howl, screetch, clatter, make noise. but be informative. people who know nothing about computers are making decisions that will forever change the way the public perceives computers, and how we may use them.
*insert your own rhetoric starting here*