Microsoft has done many things that were illegal.
The judge did not look at things closely enough.
my view point is this:
if m$ had built a better product,
and thus gained dominance in the market, it
would be a negative thing, but tolerable.
They did for a while (who among us can deny
that at one time, he helped bring computers
to the lay person). But once they approached
dominance, they introduced an element of
sloppiness to their work (rem win95 v1? heh)
Then they used their abilities to drive other
products (netscape) under (i believe that it
would have fallen if not for aol... akk...)
and (esp at the time) ie was nowhere near
as good as netscape. m$ products are 2nd
rate, and thus attained their position
through lies, undercutting the opposition,
and all of the other things the corps do to
each other. (of course (w netscape / ie all
these flashy graphx are a waste of
bandwidth anyway;)
Well, anyway, m$ cry of foul is ridiculous,
however, every big business tries to do the same.
And I personally hope that the other end
never becomes mainstream. Why? because I think
that power corrupts. I think that if (for
example) linux became dominant, the motivation
for innovation and excellence would be gone.
I think that the underdog will always be better
product, because they are busy fighting for the
top. The top will always be busy trying to
undermine the underdog that it perceives as a
threat.
But did he make the best one? Did others
improve upon the idea, thus creating a
superior cotton gin. Did this benefit
the cotton industry, the textile industry,
and the nation as a whole? Was he even
capable of creating enough cotton gins
to satisfy the demand.
Should we be paying the Egyptians for
their use of paper?
How about giving the Romans (or their
descendents aka Italians) credit for
creating a prototype
for our modern government?
Do we pay the Chinese for their invention
of gunpowder?
Did Eli use metal that was refined out of
rocks? did he invent that method? what
carpentry techniques did he use? Did he
use the English language to communicate
(which has borrowed words and syntax from
a plethora of sources)
-CrackElf
Disclaimer: not a historian. probably totally
inacurate. but you get the idea.
The whole motivation of laws these days
seems to reside wholly in the amount of
cash it can produce. Not justice, or
any noble notions like that. Sometimes
I realize that I am not cynical enough.
This is one of those times.
-CrackElf
So, if geeks dont have a killer instinct,
why dont you post your home address here?
No one will hurt you... after all, we
dont have 'killer instincts'. Come on,
were all just a bunch of radically unfit
over or under weight pushovers...
(insert more male postureing and
taunting here)
Just your address... come on... post
it. We are your friends:)
I am into punk rock, ride a motorcycle, and
work out three times a week at the dojo... did i mention my interest in martial arts and antique weaponry (katanas bo, crossbows, chain mail)? Not
to mention that my father is an x-spcl forces
type. I moved out when i was 14 cuz I didn't
like my head getting beaten against walls.
Did i mention that he was a crazy, paranoid,
back to earth kinda guy, and i spent those first
14 years of my life living in a home made
underground house without running water or
electricity learning how to survive when
the nuclear weapons are launched?
No survival skills??????? wtf??????
Where do you get these ideas of 'average geek'?
-CrackElf
Re:I think we'd have more important problems
on
Rebooting The World?
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· Score: 1
Your ignorance is appalling.
As someone already pointed out, not all
geeks fit the stereotype, in fact, I knew
some that could out-party, out ass-kick,
and out survive you any day of the week.
Have you ever survived being homeless? Have you
ever lived without water (electricity, heat,
etc)?
No? These geeks had.
And, although computing is not the top priority
in and of itself, does not mean that estabilishing
communication, and an efficient system of information preservation would not be.
-CrackElf
Re:I think we'd have more important problems
on
Rebooting The World?
·
· Score: 1
Just because I sit in front of a terminal all day doesn't mean I couldn't hunt you down and
rightiously kick your ass to feed my newfound cannabalism.
But could you fend off the dirty unwashed
masses who percieved you as the cause of
their inability to download porn?
-CrackElf
good book, read it in high school, a long time
ago, in a state (mental and physical) far, far
away. But, perhaps only one way to look at the
world. Who is to say that the same tech would
lead to the same place...
-CrackElf
Who would get blamed for a computer apocalypse?
Personally, I would get my motorcycle tweaked up,
syphon some gas, and go somewhere where no one
knew my previous profession.
He's a geek - No I am not - but he turned
me into a newt - Into a newt? - I got better
GGenerally, I tend to buy things that are not
advertised. The more I see an ad, the more
irritated I become, and the less likely I am
to buy a given product. Commercialism has driven
me to become an anti-consumer.
I have some reasons for this. The ads are
redundant, and many of them are aimed at
the 'typical' person. And they irritate me
a little bit. Say, for the sake of argument,
you see an ad several thousand times and it
irritates you a little bit the first time.
How do you feel about it the hundredth time,
or the thousandth time?
Well to the point. I occasionally click on
a banner that is not to blaring, is correctly
demographed (is that a word?), is interesting,
and has not been overly done. If this system
can cut down on the redundant ads, and make
them more demographically appropriate, I am
all for them. (being a realist, and knowing that
commercialism is here to stay, i will settle for
trying to improve the quality)
my 2{/hit}
-CrackElf
You know your a MUD addict when...
on
MUD Shell
·
· Score: 1
you use this product.
Isnt there a top ten mud
addict list? this should
be added to it.
-CrackElf
This would really work well in a filter for help
desks. Make obvious things even easier to
understand for the end loser. Of course you
could use it to try and teach some of those
first level tech support ppl to.
I used to be a chain smoker, and have lived
in many environments. Keep your computer
in a good environment (duh). I have had
parts die due to dust/dirt/smoke because
the area was not well ventilated. I have
had computers last much longer in well
ventilated areas. I once had a computer
die becuase of cold (some mf who i trusted
to store my computer thought that it would
be ok in the garage, in winter, in upstate
NY). Well, I quit smoking (and sold out).
And now my computers are in a much more
hospitable environment and the parts seem
to last a lot longer.
Yes, I agree that Netscape was pretty evil as a
corporation, but they never had the opportunity
to do what m$ did.
(since they did not have a corner on another
part of the market, they did not have the
opportunity to use that clout to support their
inferior product, which is what m$ did.)
-CrackElf
That was cute, microsoft just quoted piracy
as a potential (price) competitor for IE if
netscape droped of the face of the planet.
Does this mean that they condone piracy?;)
- CrackElf
The restrictive laws are indicitive of a
conservative environment. I believe that
the reason that ppl dont go there is the
lack of a liberal environment.
What a sad life, just because you are married,
and father two, it does not mean that you
have to be into (football) and (church) and
not go out anymore, or have a social life
that consists of nightclubs, hiking,
biking, or camping. And, why is religion
linked with being a father, or being married?
And why do you not mention women? It is
perhaps less attractive for a woman to have
a carreer in a conservative environment as
a man. (for obvious reasons)
The point of this, is that programmers and
engineers tend to have an atypical lifestyle
compared to most careers. For instance, there
are a higher number of atheists in their mix.
There is a higher number of liberals in the mix.
Thus many engineers do not fall into the
football watching, god fearing, wife
beating, American stereotype. I certainly do not.
And thus, a place that offers a conservative
environment is not one that I will live in.
I believe that java is good for smaller apps
because it is quick (relatively) to program.
of course the memory / speed constraints limit
its feasibility in larger projects. 2
Slashdot Mirror
Microsoft has done many things that were illegal.
... akk...)
The judge did not look at things closely enough.
my view point is this:
if m$ had built a better product,
and thus gained dominance in the market, it
would be a negative thing, but tolerable.
They did for a while (who among us can deny
that at one time, he helped bring computers
to the lay person). But once they approached
dominance, they introduced an element of
sloppiness to their work (rem win95 v1? heh)
Then they used their abilities to drive other
products (netscape) under (i believe that it
would have fallen if not for aol
and (esp at the time) ie was nowhere near
as good as netscape. m$ products are 2nd
rate, and thus attained their position
through lies, undercutting the opposition,
and all of the other things the corps do to
each other. (of course (w netscape / ie all
these flashy graphx are a waste of
bandwidth anyway;)
Well, anyway, m$ cry of foul is ridiculous,
however, every big business tries to do the same.
And I personally hope that the other end
never becomes mainstream. Why? because I think
that power corrupts. I think that if (for
example) linux became dominant, the motivation
for innovation and excellence would be gone.
I think that the underdog will always be better
product, because they are busy fighting for the
top. The top will always be busy trying to
undermine the underdog that it perceives as a
threat.
-CrackElf
But did he make the best one? Did others
improve upon the idea, thus creating a
superior cotton gin. Did this benefit
the cotton industry, the textile industry,
and the nation as a whole? Was he even
capable of creating enough cotton gins
to satisfy the demand.
Should we be paying the Egyptians for
their use of paper?
How about giving the Romans (or their
descendents aka Italians) credit for
creating a prototype
for our modern government?
Do we pay the Chinese for their invention
of gunpowder?
Did Eli use metal that was refined out of
rocks? did he invent that method? what
carpentry techniques did he use? Did he
use the English language to communicate
(which has borrowed words and syntax from
a plethora of sources)
-CrackElf
Disclaimer: not a historian. probably totally
inacurate. but you get the idea.
The whole motivation of laws these days
seems to reside wholly in the amount of
cash it can produce. Not justice, or
any noble notions like that. Sometimes
I realize that I am not cynical enough.
This is one of those times.
-CrackElf
So, if geeks dont have a killer instinct,
... after all, we
...
... come on ... post
:)
why dont you post your home address here?
No one will hurt you
dont have 'killer instincts'. Come on,
were all just a bunch of radically unfit
over or under weight pushovers
(insert more male postureing and
taunting here)
Just your address
it. We are your friends
-CrackElf
I am into punk rock, ride a motorcycle, and
work out three times a week at the dojo... did i mention my interest in martial arts and antique weaponry (katanas bo, crossbows, chain mail)? Not
to mention that my father is an x-spcl forces
type. I moved out when i was 14 cuz I didn't
like my head getting beaten against walls.
Did i mention that he was a crazy, paranoid,
back to earth kinda guy, and i spent those first
14 years of my life living in a home made
underground house without running water or
electricity learning how to survive when
the nuclear weapons are launched?
No survival skills??????? wtf??????
Where do you get these ideas of 'average geek'?
-CrackElf
Your ignorance is appalling.
As someone already pointed out, not all
geeks fit the stereotype, in fact, I knew
some that could out-party, out ass-kick,
and out survive you any day of the week.
Have you ever survived being homeless? Have you
ever lived without water (electricity, heat,
etc)?
No? These geeks had.
And, although computing is not the top priority
in and of itself, does not mean that estabilishing
communication, and an efficient system of information preservation would not be.
-CrackElf
Just because I sit in front of a terminal all day doesn't mean I couldn't hunt you down and
rightiously kick your ass to feed my newfound cannabalism.
But could you fend off the dirty unwashed
masses who percieved you as the cause of
their inability to download porn?
-CrackElf
good book, read it in high school, a long time ...
ago, in a state (mental and physical) far, far
away. But, perhaps only one way to look at the
world. Who is to say that the same tech would
lead to the same place
-CrackElf
Who would get blamed for a computer apocalypse?
Personally, I would get my motorcycle tweaked up,
syphon some gas, and go somewhere where no one
knew my previous profession.
He's a geek - No I am not - but he turned
me into a newt - Into a newt? - I got better
-Crackelf, butchering misquotes
GGenerally, I tend to buy things that are not
advertised. The more I see an ad, the more
irritated I become, and the less likely I am
to buy a given product. Commercialism has driven
me to become an anti-consumer.
I have some reasons for this. The ads are
redundant, and many of them are aimed at
the 'typical' person. And they irritate me
a little bit. Say, for the sake of argument,
you see an ad several thousand times and it
irritates you a little bit the first time.
How do you feel about it the hundredth time,
or the thousandth time?
Well to the point. I occasionally click on
a banner that is not to blaring, is correctly
demographed (is that a word?), is interesting,
and has not been overly done. If this system
can cut down on the redundant ads, and make
them more demographically appropriate, I am
all for them. (being a realist, and knowing that
commercialism is here to stay, i will settle for
trying to improve the quality)
my 2{/hit}
-CrackElf
you use this product.
Isnt there a top ten mud
addict list? this should
be added to it.
-CrackElf
Do you remember cat from Red Dwarf.. :)
-CrackElf
This would really work well in a filter for help
desks. Make obvious things even easier to
understand for the end loser. Of course you
could use it to try and teach some of those
first level tech support ppl to.
-CrackElf
That assumes that the recipient can observe
visible phenomenon, and that they observe
the same light spectrum as the sender.
-CrackElf
I used to be a chain smoker, and have lived
in many environments. Keep your computer
in a good environment (duh). I have had
parts die due to dust/dirt/smoke because
the area was not well ventilated. I have
had computers last much longer in well
ventilated areas. I once had a computer
die becuase of cold (some mf who i trusted
to store my computer thought that it would
be ok in the garage, in winter, in upstate
NY). Well, I quit smoking (and sold out).
And now my computers are in a much more
hospitable environment and the parts seem
to last a lot longer.
-CrackElf
hmmm. I am getting some rather different costs
then I got when I first hit the site.
-CrackElf
and if you add a monitor on the site,
the cost becomes much greater.
-CrackElf
Yes, I agree that Netscape was pretty evil as a
corporation, but they never had the opportunity
to do what m$ did.
(since they did not have a corner on another
part of the market, they did not have the
opportunity to use that clout to support their
inferior product, which is what m$ did.)
-CrackElf
That was cute, microsoft just quoted piracy ;)
as a potential (price) competitor for IE if
netscape droped of the face of the planet.
Does this mean that they condone piracy?
- CrackElf
punkbully
punk - fight the system.
bully - beat up ppl weaker than them.
dont equate the two.
-CrackElf
Lies, Lies, Tell me sweet little lies.
-CrackElf
I agree. It is BS. OMG. If only I could lie :)
like that and get those speeding tickets to
go away
-CrackElf
The restrictive laws are indicitive of a
conservative environment. I believe that
the reason that ppl dont go there is the
lack of a liberal environment.
What a sad life, just because you are married,
and father two, it does not mean that you
have to be into (football) and (church) and
not go out anymore, or have a social life
that consists of nightclubs, hiking,
biking, or camping. And, why is religion
linked with being a father, or being married?
And why do you not mention women? It is
perhaps less attractive for a woman to have
a carreer in a conservative environment as
a man. (for obvious reasons)
The point of this, is that programmers and
engineers tend to have an atypical lifestyle
compared to most careers. For instance, there
are a higher number of atheists in their mix.
There is a higher number of liberals in the mix.
Thus many engineers do not fall into the
football watching, god fearing, wife
beating, American stereotype. I certainly do not.
And thus, a place that offers a conservative
environment is not one that I will live in.
-CrackElf
I believe that java is good for smaller apps
because it is quick (relatively) to program.
of course the memory / speed constraints limit
its feasibility in larger projects. 2
And when did corp's cut prices because they
found another way to make money ?????