1. 'Linus is a big poopy head.' 2. Drawings of cocks and balls spurting little Microsoft logos 3. Bill's plan to patent the physics behind the time-space continuum.
But they CAN agree upon certain goals that they all can lobby on as a part of the OSDL. Naturally, each vendor is going to have their own separate agenda but common interests should be met with a unified voice.
1. Firefox does not crash when pulling any web page from a web server; it does however have limited range (like all browsers) and was made to read web pages except where a plug-in is supplied (or client side app) to read additional information. Your basis for saying it crashes when connecting to an X11 server through javascript is without basis. Javascript is a client side code and the connection is not based upon client side code; it is based upon the communication between the browser on the client side and the web server on the server side. If this communication does not take place through properly coded client side code , it is usually your configuration that is to blame.
2. To pull up a url, type it into the address bar. Duh.
3. To print contents of a web page to PDF in PHP, you can do one of several things. First, you can have a pre-supplied PDF available and populate it with the data and images from the page using an FDF. Second, you can use PHP to take a screenshot of the page and output the image into the PDF using an FDF. Third, you can create the PDF from scratch using PDFlib. This library can be used by multiple languages. There are also free versions of this avaliable as well as similar apps like ClibPDF.
Actually yes. It's called client site scripting. I actually do precisely what you described in a LAMP architecture and gear all my code for W3C compliant browsers.
Well you are talking about a combined tool which is highly arguable as being more efficient; is a combined function more efficient than two separate functions that work together? Some might say yes but the amount, in this sense, is negligible.
And is it equally flexible? No. What if you only need to use CSS? The combined function set becomes overkill or bloat. And because you can combine CSS with any other scripting language out there, it can have a virtual unlimited amount of uses in comparison to XSL.
So while both have their uses, CSS in combination with Javascript (or any scripting language for that matter) has far more functionality and flexibility.
I agree. CSS is definitely better... but when you have to rely upon IE to update itself to the latest standard (much less a standard that is 5 years old) it becomes a bit tedious.
Frankly, I think the W3C should act like supreme overlord and take a bullwhip to all browser developers who can't stay up to standard.
I can just see Bill Gates bent over and bare assed in a W3C hazing ritual saying 'Thank you sir! May I have another?'
This is right up there with the guy who developed an enterprise level web service using Access. It's sort of like trying to drive a nail through a 2x4 with a chunk of Jello.
Oh right. I forget, if they don't agree with you enphatically, they must always be wrong. Well let us know which Redmond Office we too can be brainwashed at and we'll meet you there, ok?
By the way, aren't you the same guy who programmed an operating system in Visual Basic?
Slashdot Mirror
I thought most Visual Basic users were.
1. 'Linus is a big poopy head.'
2. Drawings of cocks and balls spurting little Microsoft logos
3. Bill's plan to patent the physics behind the time-space continuum.
Gee, are you sure that's what it stands for? How long did it take you to figure this one out?
Ok, Mr Rocket Science, now tell me who are the corporate members of the OSDL and tell me what things they do BESIDES project development and support.
If you think the OSDL is only about project/software development and support, I think you are sadly misinformed as to what the OSDL does.
But they CAN agree upon certain goals that they all can lobby on as a part of the OSDL. Naturally, each vendor is going to have their own separate agenda but common interests should be met with a unified voice.
So how come no OSDL lobby yet?
Shouldn't the OSDL have an office so that IBM, Redhat and all the others can lobby together instead of separately?
Is there even an OSDL lobby?
Easy...
1. Firefox does not crash when pulling any web page from a web server; it does however have limited range (like all browsers) and was made to read web pages except where a plug-in is supplied (or client side app) to read additional information. Your basis for saying it crashes when connecting to an X11 server through javascript is without basis. Javascript is a client side code and the connection is not based upon client side code; it is based upon the communication between the browser on the client side and the web server on the server side. If this communication does not take place through properly coded client side code , it is usually your configuration that is to blame.
2. To pull up a url, type it into the address bar. Duh.
3. To print contents of a web page to PDF in PHP, you can do one of several things. First, you can have a pre-supplied PDF available and populate it with the data and images from the page using an FDF. Second, you can use PHP to take a screenshot of the page and output the image into the PDF using an FDF. Third, you can create the PDF from scratch using PDFlib. This library can be used by multiple languages. There are also free versions of this avaliable as well as similar apps like ClibPDF.
Actually yes. It's called client site scripting. I actually do precisely what you described in a LAMP architecture and gear all my code for W3C compliant browsers.
Well to render CSS and Javascript, just about any browser will do.
Heh. The command line CSS and Javascript engine is called Vi or Emacs. :)
Well you are talking about a combined tool which is highly arguable as being more efficient; is a combined function more efficient than two separate functions that work together? Some might say yes but the amount, in this sense, is negligible.
And is it equally flexible? No. What if you only need to use CSS? The combined function set becomes overkill or bloat. And because you can combine CSS with any other scripting language out there, it can have a virtual unlimited amount of uses in comparison to XSL.
So while both have their uses, CSS in combination with Javascript (or any scripting language for that matter) has far more functionality and flexibility.
How do I propose they do that? Easy.
Step 1: Purchase the bullwhip.
Step 2: Firmly grasp bullwhip
Step 3: Purchase a ticket to Redmond, Wa
Step 4: Start swinging!
I agree. CSS is definitely better... but when you have to rely upon IE to update itself to the latest standard (much less a standard that is 5 years old) it becomes a bit tedious.
Frankly, I think the W3C should act like supreme overlord and take a bullwhip to all browser developers who can't stay up to standard.
I can just see Bill Gates bent over and bare assed in a W3C hazing ritual saying 'Thank you sir! May I have another?'
PJ over at Groklaw has a nice write up on this. Is it just me or is Maureen O'Gara just part of the FUD-machine funded by SCO?
Hmmm... I wonder how much reporter integrity goes for on the open market?
This is right up there with the guy who developed an enterprise level web service using Access. It's sort of like trying to drive a nail through a 2x4 with a chunk of Jello.
:)
Good luck with that MS certification though.
So, as always, Slashdot is wrong...
Oh right. I forget, if they don't agree with you enphatically, they must always be wrong. Well let us know which Redmond Office we too can be brainwashed at and we'll meet you there, ok?
By the way, aren't you the same guy who programmed an operating system in Visual Basic?
sorry to hear that, considering that ActiveX IS the biggest security hole into the OS... especially when the browser is tied to the kernel.
So let me get this straight. You agree that ActiveX sucks but you are whining over semantics?
Truth hurts. Boohoo. Wear a fucking helmet.
BHB
Wow... call me wierd but that does sound good.
Who said I was talking about you? :)
:)
Oh, I guess the 'Microsoft certified moron who doesn't know how to program without a GUI' part must have hit a little too close to home huh?
Well... you can still get that degree in journalism and make yourself twice as useless.
Truth hurts don't it. You missed one though.
:)
21. Curry eating MS certified morons who don't know how to program without a GUI
That about sums it up now
Yes but can it remove the most evil malware of all... Windows! Inquiring minds want to know.
we build crap.
Need a longer explanation? we build overpriced crap.
auf deutsche? wir machen sheize.
Translated by Microsoft's marketing spin doctors? Our asses innovate.
That's my favorite dodge of criticism.
Yay... Mormon propoganda is turned into a game. Get out your magical underoos