Plus they claim that the chips can only be read from about 20 inches away from the reader anyways. There are simply no benefits to this invasion of privacy.
So...Unless a little scanner gnome follows the kid around at all times, how exactly is this different than swiping a time card or something? Kids in school are already tracked six ways from Sunday:
Get to school? Attendance sheet checkoff. Don't get to school? Parents called to check on you. Take out a library book? Scan school ID card. Want school lunch? Swipe card again. Use a computer? Log in with personal username. Doctor's Appointment? Sign a log when you leave, and have your parents called to confirm the appointment.
Etc.
Hopefully you get the idea. RFID tags may not be a good thing, but claiming that they somehow destroy school "privacy" is utterly silly.
If you want any sympathy, call me after your spyware stops acting like a vengeful child after being uninstalled- doing fun stuff like continuing to silently autostart, and in the process, completely disabling a system from making an internet connection for god knows what reason.
Here we see the strange lifeform known only as the Anime Troll, a fairly common sight in this area of Slashdot. A creature filling an odd niche in the world, they spend their time making rude comments, false accusations, and attempting to connect all anime to child pornography.
Now as you may have guessed, he can be a fiesty critter, but distract him for a moment with some old Sailor Moon tapes, and you can get close enough to observe his strange habits!
With a close inspection, we can see how this odd little creature interacts with the other trolls in the area, combining their "mad skillz" to annoy passerby much more effectively. Lurking in the backgrounds until a discussion begins, they can suddenly leap out and begin spouting rubbish en masse at any moment!
Sadly, though, such is the extent of their lives, otherwise being consigned to a pitful existence and...Wha? Give that back, you little bastard! One of them has stolen the keyboa.....^*&($^*&7HAhA fp!11 j00 all sux0rs!!!!!!!!!!111111 anim3 is for g33ks j00 stopid n3rds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Be warned that this may have spoilers, but take a quick skim through here for a synopsis. It's linked to pretty clearly on the Nausicaa site in the post.
So....Why make a post here about how you won't touch it due to vaguely remembered spyware issues, when the real reason is performance and layout(which, I might add, have probably improved significantly since last you used Mandrake)?
Makes it seem like you're just trolling or otherwise wanting to start an argument.
Do you have a link to actual proof that this's going on? Just curious, because I haven't seen anything to indicate that Nintendo is trying to kill the Freeloader:)
Addressing a bug with F-Zero GX & the Freeloader disc, which I think is what you're talking about. As far as I know, that problem was solved by a new version of the Freeloader a month or two ago (and the US version of the game is out now).
This comment here:
http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=72228& ci d=6517205
Seems like a pretty good guess at what was going on, i'll try and find something more official if I can.
The Freeloader's good, but not perfect, and it's not a good idea to immediately equate any of it's bugs with a crackdown by Nintendo.
just burn the game to a regular writeable DVD and cut the GC's box to fit the discs.
I'll try and resist the urge to flame you here, and just say that this would be an incredibly stupid idea. You would ruin the box, and be no better off, as a normal Cube cannot read regular DVDs.
and I can recall a rip-off GC by pioneer (?) which could also play regular sized DVD's due to it's size.
It's made by Panasonic, not Pioneer, it's an official product, not a "rip-off", and it's known as the "Panasonic Q". Costs about 4-5x as much as a normal Cube, last I checked.
Also, again, the size is not the only difference, as it has a Panasonic DVD player built in.
Uh, I never said anyone was? Stop reading so much into every damn thing I say.
You're one of those people who likes to argue for the saking of arguing when he's grumpy. Aww...look at baby, he's all fussy! Whoops! GOT YOUR NOSE!
Your childishness aside, this is all rather funny. Were I to be defending the idea of Linux on the Cube (or any other device), i'd probably have people tossing praise around like nobody's business.
But instead, disagree with the idea that Linux should be put on anything with a CPU, and you get roasted up one side and down the other by people acting like spoiled children.
Actually, though, a Mario-STNG combination would be...Interesting. That's probably left to the realm of disturbing fan fics that i'll never read, though.
Nothing changes on your Gamecube, or Gamecubes in general, if somebody figures out how to run something else on them. Nothing. They still do everything they did before, just as well as they did before.
Wow, really? I would never have guessed. Please, point out a post of mine where I claim that my Cube will stop functioning as it should if someone ports Linux.
My issue with this whole thing is that I think the Gamecube should be kept to playing games. Not turned into a Linux box, not used as an SNES/NES/Genesis ROM player, not made incredibly easy to play illegal game copies on, etc. Look at the XBox- there's a good number of people that aren't even buying them to play XBox games anymore, or if they are, they've hacked it up to play disc images they downloaded for free. Maybe i'm just a fanboy or something, but i'd like to see people using Cubes for what they were designed to do. Just because you can hack something, that doesn't mean it always makes sense to do so.
You are claiming a loss of some kind. Itemize that loss, prove to us exactly what you are losing, and you may just manage to not look like a raving nutjob.
I am claiming nothing of the sort, and i've already said so at least 2 or 3 times. To claim that i'm personally losing anything would be preposterous.
I think you're confusing my defense of the Cube's overall situation with a claim personal loss somehow, though I wish I knew why. I guess actually caring for something outside your own possessions is getting rare these days.
Furthermore, i'm under no obligation to prove anything to "us", especially not if you're going to insult me.
If the only defense of your opinion is your right to have one, that opinion exists on the flimsiest of grounds.
So, just because I disagree with those that want to throw Linux on anything with a CPU, I have no grounds for my opinion? At any rate, my defense is this- I wish to see the Gamecube stay as a pure gaming machine, and not turn into a hacked everything-box like the XBox or PS2.
It really irks me that when some sort of bug like the one the story's about is discovered, the immediate reaction from people around here is to find ways to exploit it and shoehorn Linux on the device any way they can. Never mind if the device was even designed to have an OS of any kind, or if it would even be usuable with Linux installed, let's just do it to be l33t!
The essential point is correct. It is no more a matter of concern for you if someone hacks their GC to load linux than if they put it in their washing machine
By that logic, you should not be any more concerned with my posts than if I scrawled them on the sidewalk outside my apartment- i'm never going to meet you in real life, I probably won't affect your opinion on this subject, and I sure as hell can't personally stop you from hacking up a Cube.
So, why should you even bother posting replies to my posts, eh?
Not to disappoint you, but I just finished sex doggy style.
And you ran right back to posting on Slashdot? What a trooper!
And you're stuck in a lab worrying about your game cube.
My Cube's perfectly fine, "friend". Read some other posts in this thread, and you might see that i'm not worried at all. I applaud your ability to be a tunnel-vision troll, though.
In any event, I was doing some actual productive work to earn a bit of money. Is that a foreign concept to you? Maybe magical little faeries come and bring you gold coins inbetween your wild sex sessions, I don't know.
Apparently they haven't brought you any courage, at least, as you're still too much of a pansy-ass to post non-anonymously:)
In fact, no matter what he does with his gamecube, yours will function unaffected
Gee, really? I hadn't guessed that.
A better question that you need to ask yourself: "Why do I worry about what other people do".
Because i'm stuck working in an extremely easy lab assistant job for 5 hours tonight, that's why:P
Maybe a question you should ask yourself is..."Why am I too scared to post using a real screenname?".
You're probably one of those meddling people that is bothered when I watch porn or have sex doggy style. Its not your businesses. Ignore if it if really bothers you.
Sorry, no. I can't get at my porn at the moment, and I find joy in arguing and annoying people exactly like you:)
Why not linux on Gamecube? Wheres your curiousity gone?
My curiosity hasn't gone anywhere. I just want to use my gaming console to actually....play games:)
If I want to run Linux, i'll just boot into the happily stable Redhat partition I already have set up on my PC.
Why hassle with finding a broadband adapter for the Cube, getting a copy of PSO, getting a keyboard and mouse hooked up somehow, making it work with a network-mounted harddrive, etc....When I can just wait 30 seconds and be set to go?
And yes, I can already see the "Because it's there!" comment coming again...I think there's a point where it just makes more sense to spend time elsewhere, though.
Not only that, but loaders like these allow those of us who look forward to games which will never be released in the US or who want to get their hands on them early play them without voiding warranties or paying twice as much for a second copy of essentially the same hardware, only with the "Japan" bit set instead of "US".
Freeloader- nice little boot disc that allows a US Gamecube to play Japanese games, and without requiring any modifications or (as far as I can tell) voiding your warranty. Much better than trying to shoehorn code onto the Cube via a bug.
Yes; the point appears to be to load Linux/other OS over the network. There is some discussion on Planet Gamecube [planetgamecube.com] about Linux on Gamecube.
The discussion on PlanetGamecube aside, the point of the announcement linked to on maxconsole seems to be the use of illegal game images. Not everyone that hacks something does it to run Linux.
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Lop?
Plus they claim that the chips can only be read from about 20 inches away from the reader anyways. There are simply no benefits to this invasion of privacy.
So...Unless a little scanner gnome follows the kid around at all times, how exactly is this different than swiping a time card or something? Kids in school are already tracked six ways from Sunday:
Get to school? Attendance sheet checkoff.
Don't get to school? Parents called to check on you.
Take out a library book? Scan school ID card.
Want school lunch? Swipe card again.
Use a computer? Log in with personal username.
Doctor's Appointment? Sign a log when you leave, and have your parents called to confirm the appointment.
Etc.
Hopefully you get the idea. RFID tags may not be a good thing, but claiming that they somehow destroy school "privacy" is utterly silly.
Fuck you, and fuck your spyware.
If you want any sympathy, call me after your spyware stops acting like a vengeful child after being uninstalled- doing fun stuff like continuing to silently autostart, and in the process, completely disabling a system from making an internet connection for god knows what reason.
(Yes, I do actually love anime)
Here we see the strange lifeform known only as the Anime Troll, a fairly common sight in this area of Slashdot. A creature filling an odd niche in the world, they spend their time making rude comments, false accusations, and attempting to connect all anime to child pornography.
Now as you may have guessed, he can be a fiesty critter, but distract him for a moment with some old Sailor Moon tapes, and you can get close enough to observe his strange habits!
With a close inspection, we can see how this odd little creature interacts with the other trolls in the area, combining their "mad skillz" to annoy passerby much more effectively. Lurking in the backgrounds until a discussion begins, they can suddenly leap out and begin spouting rubbish en masse at any moment!
Sadly, though, such is the extent of their lives, otherwise being consigned to a pitful existence and...Wha? Give that back, you little bastard! One of them has stolen the keyboa.....^*&($^*&7HAhA fp!11 j00 all sux0rs!!!!!!!!!!111111 anim3 is for g33ks j00 stopid n3rds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Be warned that this may have spoilers, but take a quick skim through here for a synopsis. It's linked to pretty clearly on the Nausicaa site in the post.
Nice way to leave out context. If anyone with mod points is reading this, you may want to read this first.
I didn't, so don't worry. *pats your head*
People can moderate my comments however the hell they want- if I didn't want to risk criticism, I wouldn't post in a public forum in the first place.
So....Why make a post here about how you won't touch it due to vaguely remembered spyware issues, when the real reason is performance and layout(which, I might add, have probably improved significantly since last you used Mandrake)?
Makes it seem like you're just trolling or otherwise wanting to start an argument.
Yes, I realize you're just joking, but I wouldn't get your hopes up. If memory serves, it used to cost $300 a few years ago, now it's US $449. :P
Do you have a link to actual proof that this's going on? Just curious, because I haven't seen anything to indicate that Nintendo is trying to kill the Freeloader :)
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The only story I can find on Slashdot is this:
http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/07/
Addressing a bug with F-Zero GX & the Freeloader disc, which I think is what you're talking about. As far as I know, that problem was solved by a new version of the Freeloader a month or two ago (and the US version of the game is out now).
This comment here:
http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=72228
Seems like a pretty good guess at what was going on, i'll try and find something more official if I can.
The Freeloader's good, but not perfect, and it's not a good idea to immediately equate any of it's bugs with a crackdown by Nintendo.
just burn the game to a regular writeable DVD and cut the GC's box to fit the discs.
I'll try and resist the urge to flame you here, and just say that this would be an incredibly stupid idea. You would ruin the box, and be no better off, as a normal Cube cannot read regular DVDs.
and I can recall a rip-off GC by pioneer (?) which could also play regular sized DVD's due to it's size.
It's made by Panasonic, not Pioneer, it's an official product, not a "rip-off", and it's known as the "Panasonic Q". Costs about 4-5x as much as a normal Cube, last I checked.
Also, again, the size is not the only difference, as it has a Panasonic DVD player built in.
Uh, no one's making you?
Uh, I never said anyone was? Stop reading so much into every damn thing I say.
You're one of those people who likes to argue for the saking of arguing when he's grumpy. Aww...look at baby, he's all fussy! Whoops! GOT YOUR NOSE!
Your childishness aside, this is all rather funny. Were I to be defending the idea of Linux on the Cube (or any other device), i'd probably have people tossing praise around like nobody's business.
But instead, disagree with the idea that Linux should be put on anything with a CPU, and you get roasted up one side and down the other by people acting like spoiled children.
Furthermore, those billions of people will spend their time however the damn hell they want, thankyouverymuch.
Please, point to an example where i've said that I can actually stop someone from doing whatever they want.
I'll wait.
What's that, you couldn't find any? I actually said the opposite?
Okay then.
I swear, it's like disagreeing with someone's hobby is a cardinal sin around here.
Damn, I guess you found me out.
Actually, though, a Mario-STNG combination would be...Interesting. That's probably left to the realm of disturbing fan fics that i'll never read, though.
And everyone that's posted "But your system wouldn't be affected!", etc. gets mine.
Including you, dumbass AC. And are you really such a spineless coward that you can't even log into a fairly anonymous account here to insult me?
Nothing changes on your Gamecube, or Gamecubes in general, if somebody figures out how to run something else on them. Nothing. They still do everything they did before, just as well as they did before.
Wow, really? I would never have guessed. Please, point out a post of mine where I claim that my Cube will stop functioning as it should if someone ports Linux.
My issue with this whole thing is that I think the Gamecube should be kept to playing games. Not turned into a Linux box, not used as an SNES/NES/Genesis ROM player, not made incredibly easy to play illegal game copies on, etc. Look at the XBox- there's a good number of people that aren't even buying them to play XBox games anymore, or if they are, they've hacked it up to play disc images they downloaded for free. Maybe i'm just a fanboy or something, but i'd like to see people using Cubes for what they were designed to do. Just because you can hack something, that doesn't mean it always makes sense to do so.
You are claiming a loss of some kind. Itemize that loss, prove to us exactly what you are losing, and you may just manage to not look like a raving nutjob.
I am claiming nothing of the sort, and i've already said so at least 2 or 3 times. To claim that i'm personally losing anything would be preposterous.
I think you're confusing my defense of the Cube's overall situation with a claim personal loss somehow, though I wish I knew why. I guess actually caring for something outside your own possessions is getting rare these days.
Furthermore, i'm under no obligation to prove anything to "us", especially not if you're going to insult me.
Indeed. But at least I can be traced back to this account, rather than getting lost in the sea as one of the AC horde.
If the only defense of your opinion is your right to have one, that opinion exists on the flimsiest of grounds.
So, just because I disagree with those that want to throw Linux on anything with a CPU, I have no grounds for my opinion? At any rate, my defense is this- I wish to see the Gamecube stay as a pure gaming machine, and not turn into a hacked everything-box like the XBox or PS2.
It really irks me that when some sort of bug like the one the story's about is discovered, the immediate reaction from people around here is to find ways to exploit it and shoehorn Linux on the device any way they can. Never mind if the device was even designed to have an OS of any kind, or if it would even be usuable with Linux installed, let's just do it to be l33t!
The essential point is correct. It is no more a matter of concern for you if someone hacks their GC to load linux than if they put it in their washing machine
By that logic, you should not be any more concerned with my posts than if I scrawled them on the sidewalk outside my apartment- i'm never going to meet you in real life, I probably won't affect your opinion on this subject, and I sure as hell can't personally stop you from hacking up a Cube.
So, why should you even bother posting replies to my posts, eh?
Not to disappoint you, but I just finished sex doggy style.
:)
And you ran right back to posting on Slashdot? What a trooper!
And you're stuck in a lab worrying about your game cube.
My Cube's perfectly fine, "friend". Read some other posts in this thread, and you might see that i'm not worried at all. I applaud your ability to be a tunnel-vision troll, though.
In any event, I was doing some actual productive work to earn a bit of money. Is that a foreign concept to you? Maybe magical little faeries come and bring you gold coins inbetween your wild sex sessions, I don't know.
Apparently they haven't brought you any courage, at least, as you're still too much of a pansy-ass to post non-anonymously
It will still do that.
:P
:)
In fact, no matter what he does with his gamecube, yours will function unaffected
Gee, really? I hadn't guessed that.
A better question that you need to ask yourself: "Why do I worry about what other people do".
Because i'm stuck working in an extremely easy lab assistant job for 5 hours tonight, that's why
Maybe a question you should ask yourself is..."Why am I too scared to post using a real screenname?".
You're probably one of those meddling people that is bothered when I watch porn or have sex doggy style. Its not your businesses. Ignore if it if really bothers you.
Sorry, no. I can't get at my porn at the moment, and I find joy in arguing and annoying people exactly like you
Why not linux on Gamecube? Wheres your curiousity gone?
:)
My curiosity hasn't gone anywhere. I just want to use my gaming console to actually....play games
If I want to run Linux, i'll just boot into the happily stable Redhat partition I already have set up on my PC.
Why hassle with finding a broadband adapter for the Cube, getting a copy of PSO, getting a keyboard and mouse hooked up somehow, making it work with a network-mounted harddrive, etc....When I can just wait 30 seconds and be set to go?
And yes, I can already see the "Because it's there!" comment coming again...I think there's a point where it just makes more sense to spend time elsewhere, though.
Not only that, but loaders like these allow those of us who look forward to games which will never be released in the US or who want to get their hands on them early play them without voiding warranties or paying twice as much for a second copy of essentially the same hardware, only with the "Japan" bit set instead of "US".
Freeloader- nice little boot disc that allows a US Gamecube to play Japanese games, and without requiring any modifications or (as far as I can tell) voiding your warranty. Much better than trying to shoehorn code onto the Cube via a bug.
And I GUESS your CAPITAL letters are SUPPOSED to make me UNDERSTAND somehow?
I take issue with hacking a Gamecube to run Linux, or other devices on which it would make no sense at all. Nothing else.
And if people can have the attitude that everything can or should be hacked somehow, i'm entitled to have the opposite opinion, thank you.
I'm also quite well aware that nothing he does affects me, but again, this is free discussion, and I can say what I like.
Yes; the point appears to be to load Linux/other OS over the network. There is some discussion on Planet Gamecube [planetgamecube.com] about Linux on Gamecube.
The discussion on PlanetGamecube aside, the point of the announcement linked to on maxconsole seems to be the use of illegal game images. Not everyone that hacks something does it to run Linux.
I don't own an XBox, and I never will, as I absolutely abhor the things.
I own a Platinum Gamecube.
Where in the world would you infer that I own an XBox?