Which brings me to my next beef. How come nobody hacks in a well lighted room, a la ST:TNG? Why is it always in some dingy dark hole? Explanations wanted, apply within.
Personally I prefer a less bright room, definitely without artificial light. A cubicle farm with the lights out and just the daylight through the windows[1] is very pleasant and easy on the eyes. Flickering Fluorescence, flashing phosphors and feeping feeps bug the hell outta me.
Do we want to get into the corporate market? If so, high level PR needs to be undertaken. Articles in 'Suit' newsrags saying how easy it is to use, pinstripe themes for KDE/Gnome, that sort of thing.
If the emphasis is to keep Linux the way it is now: quality first, pr second, then the perception of those who make purchasing decisions has to be changed. No two ways about it. It must be seen to be 'safe' to buy into Linux. IBM are huge, because 'no one ever got fired for buying IBM'. Microsoft are the defactor OS becuase 'no one ever got fire for buying Microsoft'. With Linux we have to get to the situation where, and I'm sure you can see the pattern by now, 'no one is ever going to get fired for buying into Linux'. How to get there? Reputation, reputation, reputation. Smug managers looking relaxed and Out At Five because their systems don't need babying 24/7. Smug Department heads with lower software and hardware budget requirements because "oh we can run all the essential but light stuff like mail and web on 486's".
Of course you have the right to call him whatever you want. That's what free speech is all about. What you don't have the right to do is try and prevent his viewpoint from being expressed. This is the entire crux of the argument.
dave "I may not like what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
I rember using Husky Hunters back in the late 80's. Those things were indestructible. My one had been driven over a few times by trucks and suck. They were waterproof, shockproof, carproof, and made a convenient club if you were attacked. Husky are at husky.co.uk. Can't remember what OS the came with, but it was almost certainly something odd. I remember we used Psion IIs at the same time (64k RAM!).
0 to 60 in 2.5 seconds is about 1.1G 3.8g would be o to 60 in 0.75 seconds. Race cars (F1) can pull about 4G. Big street bikes a bit less than 2g A really fast car (0-60, 5secs) is only pulling 0.57g.
China doesn't have much of a rule of law. Recent trials of Hong Kongers on the mainland have been in closed courts and almost invariably ended up in executions.
Boiling a cat? Boiling? Barbarian. You fry a cat in peanut oil with garlic, lemon grass, chilis and a dash of soy sauce. Bit stringy, especiallyh with a Chinese cat, but not too bad.
The Taiwanese don't consider themselves part of China. In fact, Taiwan is one of the very few democracies in southeast asia. Calling the Taiwanese Commies is not correct.
anyway, I've seen Chinese versions of Red Hat and Turbolinux before. What's new about Bluepoint?
I know this is Offtopic, but it seems that over the last few weeks, Slashdot has increased the rate of posting. It seems that whenever I reload, there are new stories, and those stories qickly get up to over 300 or 400 replies.
>Nothing is as difficult as predicting. >Especially predicting the future.
Predicting the past doesn't *quite* have the same ring...
>It will be here before Windows 2003:-)
sometime in 2020?
>Then there's the nuclear bomb going off in North >Korea in 2009. Why North Korea? I mean, isn't >the probablility bigger that some terrorist >group or crazy dictator gets/makes one and >smuggles it into US?
North Korea is going to self destruct really badly soon. Really, really badly. It's gonna be messy, it's gonna be violent and China's gonna step in and 'help'.
>Oh, and life on both Europa and the Halley's >Comet. Maybe they'll also be able to find that >spacecraft behind the comet too? The one where >you get by making a suicide. Elvis pilots it >BTW.
2002 Microsoft's stock collapses and hundreds of programmers leave the company to join other companies to develope for Linux.
>2000-2020 A massive earth quake destroys Tokyo >resulting in worldwide economical problems when >the Japanese people pull their money back to >rebuild the city.
2025 A terrorist with Genetic Engineering creates a mutant, fire breathing lizard and send it to destroy Tokyo. Luckily, all of the Tokyo Emergency Services grew up watching Gojira movies and just nuke the slimy bastard before he gets within a hundred miles. (They also make helicopters that can go up.)
>But in the end it's sad to watch these >predictions. A space hotel is more important >than helping developing countries and getting >food for everyone. Also first world people get >to live on the moon while tens of thousands of >children die of hunger and wars.
People were starving in Europe when the New World was discovered. It is not the job of humanity to protect people from themselves.
Clean fuel may happen in developed countries, but when people can't put food on the table, they ain't worried none about unleaded fuel or the ozone layer.
Personally, I'd look at twenty to thirty years before most of the world gets the environmental message.
It is an interesting read from Clarke, but it's two months old. Is the article queue for Slashdot that long?
Slashdot Mirror
> Microsoft's Y2K "important message"
Is that a UL being passed around by idiots who believe everything they get forwarded in email?
dave
> Gees these spammers must have really done well
> for themselfves, check out the picture of their
> house
That house belongs to the father of one of their girlfriends. It states that in the article.
dave
ok, ok,
the automatic complaint thing was funny once or twice, but it's getting very tired now.
Stop, please.
dave
The 512k of RAM is correct.
It's just that the onboard cache is 512Mb...
Hey! That was funny, what's with the Troll rating.
Sheesh!
policy editor? in win98?
where is that exactly?
ummm, that filemanager is available on the net somewhere, I think it's on SGI's site.
dave
Which brings me to my next beef. How come nobody hacks in a well lighted room, a la ST:TNG? Why is it always in some dingy dark hole? Explanations wanted, apply within.
Personally I prefer a less bright room, definitely without artificial light. A cubicle farm with the lights out and just the daylight through the windows[1] is very pleasant and easy on the eyes. Flickering Fluorescence, flashing phosphors and feeping feeps bug the hell outta me.
dave
Maybe the community needs to make a decision.
Do we want to get into the corporate market? If so, high level PR needs to be undertaken. Articles in 'Suit' newsrags saying how easy it is to use, pinstripe themes for KDE/Gnome, that sort of thing.
If the emphasis is to keep Linux the way it is now: quality first, pr second, then the perception of those who make purchasing decisions has to be changed. No two ways about it. It must be seen to be 'safe' to buy into Linux.
IBM are huge, because 'no one ever got fired for buying IBM'. Microsoft are the defactor OS becuase 'no one ever got fire for buying Microsoft'.
With Linux we have to get to the situation where, and I'm sure you can see the pattern by now, 'no one is ever going to get fired for buying into Linux'.
How to get there? Reputation, reputation, reputation. Smug managers looking relaxed and Out At Five because their systems don't need babying 24/7. Smug Department heads with lower software and hardware budget requirements because "oh we can run all the essential but light stuff like mail and web on 486's".
dave
Nope: the TOTAL QUANTITY of energy in a closed system can be neither created or destroyed.
Matter and energy are theoretically convertible using E=mc2
dave
>smart impotent and resistant to radiation! The evolution of a new human subspecies
a short-lived species...
With regard to Einstein's brain, i doubt if he's had much coffee for quite some time now.
dave
> alt.support.attn-deficit
shouldn't that be alt.support.attn-def-ooh-look-a-pretty-butterfly?
dave "a chameleon on acid under a strobe light"
Of course you have the right to call him whatever you want. That's what free speech is all about. What you don't have the right to do is try and prevent his viewpoint from being expressed. This is the entire crux of the argument.
dave "I may not like what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
I rember using Husky Hunters back in the late 80's. Those things were indestructible. My one had been driven over a few times by trucks and suck. They were waterproof, shockproof, carproof, and made a convenient club if you were attacked.
Husky are at husky.co.uk.
Can't remember what OS the came with, but it was almost certainly something odd. I remember we used Psion IIs at the same time (64k RAM!).
dave "banging two rocks to get ones and zeros"
0 to 60 in 2.5 seconds is about 1.1G
3.8g would be o to 60 in 0.75 seconds.
Race cars (F1) can pull about 4G. Big street bikes a bit less than 2g
A really fast car (0-60, 5secs) is only pulling 0.57g.
dave "vroom"
damn it man, your tones are all wrong, you just called me a pregnant elephant!
Oh, wait...
dai wai
China doesn't have much of a rule of law. Recent trials of Hong Kongers on the mainland have been in closed courts and almost invariably ended up in executions.
dai wai
Boiling a cat? Boiling?
:)"
Barbarian.
You fry a cat in peanut oil with garlic, lemon grass, chilis and a dash of soy sauce.
Bit stringy, especiallyh with a Chinese cat, but not too bad.
dave "taste like chicken
Sadly, whenever you see a post saying "nuke the commiez, f*ing bastards' it's almost invariably a teenage american boy.
You may not like it, but it's true.
dave
The Taiwanese don't consider themselves part of China. In fact, Taiwan is one of the very few democracies in southeast asia. Calling the Taiwanese Commies is not correct.
anyway, I've seen Chinese versions of Red Hat and Turbolinux before. What's new about Bluepoint?
dai wai
Bugger.
I download the pre-6 pre-release last night. First thing this morning, I see that that a new version is out.
Tchah!
Still, Enlightenment is just so cool. All of the others are nice and efficent, but E is just spoogeworthy.
I know this is Offtopic, but it seems that over the last few weeks, Slashdot has increased the rate of posting. It seems that whenever I reload, there are new stories, and those stories qickly get up to over 300 or 400 replies.
has anyone else noticed this?
dave
I hereby invoke Godwin's Law and declare this thread dead.
dave
>Nothing is as difficult as predicting.
:-)
>Especially predicting the future.
Predicting the past doesn't *quite* have the same ring...
>It will be here before Windows 2003
sometime in 2020?
>Then there's the nuclear bomb going off in North
>Korea in 2009. Why North Korea? I mean, isn't
>the probablility bigger that some terrorist
>group or crazy dictator gets/makes one and
>smuggles it into US?
North Korea is going to self destruct really badly soon. Really, really badly. It's gonna be messy, it's gonna be violent and China's gonna step in and 'help'.
>Oh, and life on both Europa and the Halley's
>Comet. Maybe they'll also be able to find that
>spacecraft behind the comet too? The one where
>you get by making a suicide. Elvis pilots it
>BTW.
2002 Microsoft's stock collapses and hundreds of programmers leave the company to join other companies to develope for Linux.
>2000-2020 A massive earth quake destroys Tokyo
>resulting in worldwide economical problems when
>the Japanese people pull their money back to >rebuild the city.
2025 A terrorist with Genetic Engineering creates a mutant, fire breathing lizard and send it to destroy Tokyo. Luckily, all of the Tokyo Emergency Services grew up watching Gojira movies and just nuke the slimy bastard before he gets within a hundred miles. (They also make helicopters that can go up.)
>But in the end it's sad to watch these
>predictions. A space hotel is more important
>than helping developing countries and getting
>food for everyone. Also first world people get
>to live on the moon while tens of thousands of
>children die of hunger and wars.
People were starving in Europe when the New World was discovered. It is not the job of humanity to protect people from themselves.
dave
Clean fuel may happen in developed countries, but when people can't put food on the table, they ain't worried none about unleaded fuel or the ozone layer.
Personally, I'd look at twenty to thirty years before most of the world gets the environmental message.
It is an interesting read from Clarke, but it's two months old. Is the article queue for Slashdot that long?
dave "not trolling, just curious"