Responding to another point in this thread, IE may come up quicker, but the right-click menus seem to appear after a delay, while netscape's pop-up straight away.
While IE is probably a little faster, the UI feels a bit more sluggish. I also don't like the way a window geets given the focus when it's finished loading.
Microwave it and use it as a coaster for coffee cups. You get nice pretty patterns on the CD after about 20-30 seconds in a microwave. Put a glass of water in with it for safety's sake.
dave, with a stack of AOL and compuserve coasters.
Even if, in five years time, there is only desktop OS: RedHat 2005 (Linux 4.10.1365), you'll still be able to roll your own distro. That's in the nature of the GPL. RD would have to replace all of the GNU tools with proprietary stuff *and* change the kernel.
Is there likely to be a conflict between due dillignece and the GPL?
Is is possible that someone could claim that publishing sources and making everything available to anyone is contrary to the interests of the company.
Suppose, for example, that RedHat is faced with the situation where it is in their best interests to take over or dominate a smaller competitor and they decline from this as its not in the nature of the company to do so. Have they then acted in a manner contrary to maximising their profits?
"And he could play the guitar like ringing a cell..."
Sorry.
As a musician, I must strongly protest this development. This will allow pub landlords to compress the band into smaller and smaller spaces until we'll end up playing in a cigarette packet at the end of the bar. As an added effect, the music will be beyond the hearing range of most if not all of the punters. (although the drummer will still be too loud, of course.)
Heinlein also mentions in ST that there were plenty of non-combatant jobs in the Service. If someone wanted to do their bit, but couldn't fight, then there was a job for them.
You might also want to check out David Gerrold's "War against the Chtorr" series (if you can find it) for exploration of similar themes.
And also with Macmillan-Mandrake you get FREE segmentation faults with emacs! A custom tweaked kernel! Something hacked in which won't let you recompile the kernel!
I saw this (v6.0) in my local computer centre last Saturday and bought it to try a different distro from RH and COL. Installed it, keeping my/home directories and as before. Had some weird problems.
While WindowsUpdate is ok for a win98 home machine, I'm not convinced it's the right thing for an NT server. (Does it even work on NT? It doesn't work on *this* NT box.)
For a start, it only has patches from Microsoft and the vast bulk of those patches are for screensavers, and general entertainment.
There are 'critical updates' and 'reccomended updates' which are ok, but those patches are applied from the server. Some of these need reboots, some need downloading by themselves.
In short, it's a good idea, but it's clunky and non-automatable.
A cron job or autorpm (must try that) sounds much better.
dave
ps: does autorpm simulate the way you can update and recompile the entire system via CVS on a *BSD box?
Hmmm. Why not a lighter, more reliable piece of software that's easily extensible with, say, a macro language. Then anyone who wants those extra features can add their own.
Isn't most of Word and Excel already written in VBA?
dave
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> If you are sickened by the latter but not the former then can you really get to the core of why you are sickened?
Because some people have an objection to having someone else's religion shoved down their throat?
If I saw someone with a Jesus t-shirt i would assume that they were some sort of mad happy-clappy and cross the street to avoid them, probably making omnian holy-horn gestures just to safe.
Win98 is a pain to install. I completely cleaned mine out and reinstalled recently and it bluescreens on shutdown. Nowhere else, just when shutting down. Weird.
It's also a pain to do, unless you've prepared boot disks and such like before hand.
Yeah, I remember Caldera 1.3 as well. It was my first Linux setup on my ollivetti laptop. X was an absolute BITCH to get working. COL didn't like my pcmcia cards, hated the screen and was pretty unfriendly.
Recently I installed RH6 on that same machine. (It's been DOS, WIN95, WIN98, Linux, and now it's dual boot Win98/Linux 2.2.10) RH went on and was working in 30 mins or so.
RH5.2 was a pain as well for similar reasons, and on my main machine, it didn't like my SCSI (adaptec) or video (matrox). RH6.0 is *so* much easier. Autodetect, install.
Face it, your first Linux install, if you know nothing about linux or unix will be difficult. Setting everything up for the first time *will* be a learning experience.
I think that as soon as computer literacy becomes more widespread, the irreverance that geeks now enjoy will come to an abrupt halt.
While I've seen large increases in computer use, I've seen precious little increase in computer literacy.
I think, if anything, the value of those who understand the technology will rise as it becomes more and more incomprehensible to the non-computer literate.
No one knows for sure what Transmeta is doing. We've heard talk about a super-processor.
Transmeta is preparing to take advantage of the collapse of civilisation due to y2k are are preparing some nice looking stone knives and bearskins in a variety of translucent colours (and of course traditional beige) to keep all those geeks happy.
>She uses Windows 95, but if I were to put a DSL > line into that house she'd be using a Linux or > *BSD (more likely, knowing me) box as a firewall > and she wouldn't know it!
Acksherley, mainly she just uses the email app (netscape) you installed for her. I'm pretty positive that you could sneakily replace win95 on that box with linux/[kde|fvwm] and she'd hardly notice as long as it did the same things and didn't look too different.
It seems to me that the guy from Microsoft could have just as well been testing various support departments to see how much support you could get.
He may have been clueless or he may have just been acting that way.
Many people would just put the cd in the drive and *expect* an auto-install to start. If nothing happens, then they'll double click on some likely looking filenames in gmc/whatever.
Game installation now is a complete no-brainer compared to the bad old days when you had to run install programs from dos, make custom boot disks, maybe find a working video driver, yadda, yadda.
Win9[58] as a gaming environment is pretty good - most of the time you don't have to worry about stuff.
As for the 'newbie' not knowing what his pc is: chances are he was given a blank pc and a stack of CDs and told to install them and see how easy it is and if the platform is sensible for a *real* newbie, i.e. the 'foot pedal, cup-holder and monitor-stand' brigade.
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Umm, netscape has auto-completion as well.
Responding to another point in this thread, IE may come up quicker, but the right-click menus seem to appear after a delay, while netscape's pop-up straight away.
While IE is probably a little faster, the UI feels a bit more sluggish. I also don't like the way a window geets given the focus when it's finished loading.
dave
Microwave it and use it as a coaster for coffee cups. You get nice pretty patterns on the CD after about 20-30 seconds in a microwave. Put a glass of water in with it for safety's sake.
dave, with a stack of AOL and compuserve coasters.
Personally, I think it strongly resembles a left-handed Parker-Fly.
The pickups are a bit worrying. Maybe someone's finally made a six-string bass of a reasonable size.
dave
Even if, in five years time, there is only desktop OS: RedHat 2005 (Linux 4.10.1365), you'll still be able to roll your own distro. That's in the nature of the GPL. RD would have to replace all of the GNU tools with proprietary stuff *and* change the kernel.
dave
Is there likely to be a conflict between due dillignece and the GPL?
Is is possible that someone could claim that publishing sources and making
everything available to anyone is contrary to the interests of the company.
Suppose, for example, that RedHat is faced with the situation where it is
in their best interests to take over or dominate a smaller competitor and
they decline from this as its not in the nature of the company to do so.
Have they then acted in a manner contrary to maximising their profits?
dave
"And he could play the guitar like ringing a cell..."
Sorry.
As a musician, I must strongly protest this development.
This will allow pub landlords to compress the band into
smaller and smaller spaces until we'll end up playing in
a cigarette packet at the end of the bar. As an added
effect, the music will be beyond the hearing range of most if not
all of the punters. (although the drummer will still be too loud, of course.)
Harrumph.
dave
Heinlein also mentions in ST that there were plenty of non-combatant jobs in the Service. If someone wanted to do their bit, but couldn't fight, then there was a job for them.
You might also want to check out David Gerrold's "War against the Chtorr" series (if you can find it) for exploration of similar themes.
dave
And also with Macmillan-Mandrake you get FREE segmentation faults with emacs! A custom tweaked kernel! Something hacked in which won't let you recompile the kernel!
I saw this (v6.0) in my local computer centre last Saturday and bought it to try a different distro from RH and COL. Installed it, keeping my /home directories and as before. Had some weird problems.
nice little penguin logo on login, though.
dave
While WindowsUpdate is ok for a win98 home machine, I'm not convinced it's the right thing for an NT server. (Does it even work on NT? It doesn't work on *this* NT box.)
For a start, it only has patches from Microsoft and the vast bulk of those patches are for screensavers, and general entertainment.
There are 'critical updates' and 'reccomended updates' which are ok, but those patches are applied from the server. Some of these need reboots, some need downloading by themselves.
In short, it's a good idea, but it's clunky and non-automatable.
A cron job or autorpm (must try that) sounds much better.
dave
ps: does autorpm simulate the way you can update and recompile the entire system via CVS on a *BSD box?
Somehow I doubt that those 'Merkins who want to annex China to get more Chinese food have ever eaten Chinese food in China.
Snake, Dog, Rat, Donkey, Scorpion, bees, cats, worms and that was just dinner last night.
But worst of all, China has McDonalds!
Run for the Hills!!
dave, in the PRC.
China: 1.28 billion
India: ~1 billion
USA: ~300 million
somewhat of a gap there...
All of Europe could probably be lumped in there somewhere.
Hmmm. Why not a lighter, more reliable piece of software that's easily extensible with, say, a macro language. Then anyone who wants those extra features can add their own.
Isn't most of Word and Excel already written in VBA?
dave
> If you are sickened by the latter but not the former then can you really get to the core of why you are sickened?
Because some people have an objection to having someone else's religion shoved down their throat?
If I saw someone with a Jesus t-shirt i would assume that they were some sort of mad happy-clappy and cross the street to avoid them, probably making omnian holy-horn gestures just to safe.
dave "*gesture*"
Win98 is a pain to install. I completely cleaned mine out and reinstalled recently and it bluescreens on shutdown. Nowhere else, just when shutting down. Weird.
It's also a pain to do, unless you've prepared boot disks and such like before hand.
dave
Yeah, I remember Caldera 1.3 as well. It was my first Linux setup on my ollivetti laptop. X was an absolute BITCH to get working. COL didn't like my pcmcia cards, hated the screen and was pretty unfriendly.
Recently I installed RH6 on that same machine. (It's been DOS, WIN95, WIN98, Linux, and now it's dual boot Win98/Linux 2.2.10) RH went on and was working in 30 mins or so.
RH5.2 was a pain as well for similar reasons, and on my main machine, it didn't like my SCSI (adaptec) or video (matrox). RH6.0 is *so* much easier. Autodetect, install.
Face it, your first Linux install, if you know nothing about linux or unix will be difficult. Setting everything up for the first time *will* be a learning experience.
dave
Oh no! He said "software programs"!
That's nearly as bad as my last boss, who used to talk about "digital data analysis packages" when he meant spreadsheets.
dave "furrfu!"
I think that as soon as computer literacy becomes more widespread, the irreverance that geeks now enjoy will come to an abrupt halt.
While I've seen large increases in computer use, I've seen precious little increase in computer literacy.
I think, if anything, the value of those who understand the technology will rise as it becomes more and more incomprehensible to the non-computer literate.
dave
This has been covered by Neal Stephenson in 'The Diamond Age'.
dave
I probably should have said that the Jargon style of plural for those words is derived from that of oxen.
This is why it's a jargon reference. It's not supposed to be grammatically correct.
I agree that the jargon file is not always correct, however it is a useful reference for hacker jargon.
dave "furrfu!"
> Bill Gates: College dropout.
> Linus Torvalds: Doctor.
BG: FUD
LT: PhD
dave
The plural of ox is oxen, so by extension, the plural or vax and box are vaxen and boxen respectively.
Check out the Jargon File at http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon (from memory, may not be quite right).
dave
No one knows for sure what Transmeta is doing. We've heard talk about a super-processor.
Transmeta is preparing to take advantage of the collapse of civilisation due to y2k are are preparing some nice looking stone knives and bearskins in a variety of translucent colours (and of course traditional beige) to keep all those geeks happy.
dave
>She uses Windows 95, but if I were to put a DSL
> line into that house she'd be using a Linux or
> *BSD (more likely, knowing me) box as a firewall
> and she wouldn't know it!
Acksherley, mainly she just uses the email app (netscape) you installed for her. I'm pretty positive that you could sneakily replace win95 on that box with linux/[kde|fvwm] and she'd hardly notice as long as it did the same things and didn't look too different.
dave (io'b's bro)
It seems to me that the guy from Microsoft could have just as well been testing various support departments to see how much support you could get.
He may have been clueless or he may have just been acting that way.
Many people would just put the cd in the drive and *expect* an auto-install to start. If nothing happens, then they'll double click on some likely looking filenames in gmc/whatever.
Game installation now is a complete no-brainer compared to the bad old days when you had to run install programs from dos, make custom boot disks, maybe find a working video driver, yadda, yadda.
Win9[58] as a gaming environment is pretty good - most of the time you don't have to worry about stuff.
As for the 'newbie' not knowing what his pc is: chances are he was given a blank pc and a stack of CDs and told to install them and see how easy it is and if the platform is sensible for a *real* newbie, i.e. the 'foot pedal, cup-holder and monitor-stand' brigade.
dave
Completely off topic but, Prince is now:
:P
The Artist, formerly known as 'the artist formerly known as prince' formerly known as 'prince'.
TAFKATAFKAPFKAP for short.
dave