the mozilla team is busting their asses to see that the web remains an open platform and not a microsoft fiefdom.
fine, the widget sets need some remaining work, but jesus christ, you're complaining about VERY MINOR look and feel issues. get a grip.
the navigator application is meant to be a freely available reference implementation, not a finished product. as a bonus, it works quite well as a browser. if the buttons don't look just like your precious aqua interface (which is ugly as shite and looks like it was designed by someone who'd just been playing a marathon game of candyland on acid, IMHO), then wait until someone in the OS-X world develops a more native browser that will soothe your little aches and pains.
by the way: good job paying $1500 extra for some overpriced, soon-to-be-obsolete hardware. way to fall for marketing.
anyone who patents a small door at the bottom of another door is a moron. if i knew someone like that, i would spill beer on them at every possible occasion.
i think you are misunderstanding him. i don't believe he's saying that computer science courses are simply courses about microsoft software, but that microsoft software is what they USE in teaching their courses and in doing their coursework. though i can't imagine wanting to do that in the context of hands-on programming assignments (that's like throwing away half your toolset -- no od? no grep? no shell?), when it comes to theory courses, it makes little difference. i.e., if you take an algorithms course, you don't even need a computer, since it's all mathematical proofs. most of us here as we learn about operating systems, learn UNIX (because it's well-studied, source code is available for many variations, etc). but surely microsoft's crippled operating systems can likewise be used to demonstrate general principles.
yeah right. this is asia we're talking about, and in case you haven't noticed a LARGE proportion of computer science students are asian. as anecdotal evidence: in my grad school classes, i'd say at least 50% of the students are east-asian (most of them mandarin-speaking). now, sure some of those people will choose to work abroad in the u.s. or europe, but many of them out of pride-of-place will repatriate and work at home. so, i wouldn't underestimate their ability to produce software. whether they feel bound by our notion of free software ethics or not (since even the GNU license's strength is based on copyright law) is another question.
as much as people like to bitch about government projects, consider this. . . how many private companies take on engineering projects of a size comparable to the things that governments are tasked with? maybe someone like bechtel can handle such things well, but there really aren't many who can.
on the other hand, it would be cool if the company that developed it put the source out there for public review so that the software engineering-savvy among us could go, "holy fuck! you're going to direct our air traffic with this? there's a potential buffer overflow on line 1293 of file xxxx.cpp."
after all, i assume that when a government puts out that kind of cash for custom software that they get the source along with it. that makes it public property right? release it to the public then.
actually, despite the fact that it pains me to say it, i have several non-techie friends who don't know the true evil of MS and love the x-box. it may actually be a good product.
how about this. . . is it infringement when a dj, at a club with a cover-charge, publicly plays copyrighted material for a couple hundred people dancing? is the RIAA suing dj's or clubs? what about dj's that make mixtapes and sell them? is the RIAA going to start cracking down on the "illegal" mixtape/cd market in large urban areas?
um, it's a boycott if you organize enough people to have an actual effect on the people you're boycotting. in your case, it's just called "an isolated individual not buying music".
way to get in an off-topic dig at birth control/disease prevention, dumbass. so i'm going to follow you right off the topic. question for you. . . do you think that the constitution should be taught in health class? it would seem a poor fit to me, whereas birth control would seem to be a natural part of the curriculum. hmm, in that case maybe the constitution should also be taught in math and science classes as well.
i've said this many times, to numerous people, but i just don't think filesharing is so dangerous to the music economy. i was a napster junkie when it was good, and now amongst some friends i have access to a 2000+ ripped-cd mp3 repository (w/ search, etc). but i still BUY on the order of 3-4 cd's a week. perhaps i'm just dumb. but i want the cd, i want the liner notes, i want the original packaging. now, if those same cd's were copy-protected, i would refuse to buy them, but as long as no one is denying me my rights, i don't mind supporting the artists.
The President a figurehead? Surely you jest. Surely, watching the events of this fall, you've observed that G.W. has gotten every item on his wish list, just by draping himself in the flag. In fact, when I think about our post-WWII military record, it seems that almost all of our adventures have been spurred on by the executive branch and either rubber-stamped by congress, or snuck past them. (I'm thinking Vietnam, various adventures in Nicaragua, Panama, Haiti, Grenada, the Gulf War, the current conflict in Afghanistan, etc.)
I do agree about the childish partisanship, except that I get the feeling that it's all a ruse to distract us from noticing that common goal you mention. (lining their pockets w/ corporate money)
this article reminds me of exactly why i stopped reading wired several years ago: it's sensationalist fluff.
a) the "gurus of wired" never did anything but write pie-in-the-sky articles about the "new economy", as if infotech somehow freed the human race from manufacturing, farming, etc (a decidedly first-world conceit). if it wasn't that specious line of reasoning, then it was silly futurist articles about how technology was going to either make everyone into a superhuman cyborg or alternately turn the planet into a william gibson novel gone wrong. i give wired props for graphic design, but not much else. read it in an airport when you're bored, but if you want science news, read a science journal.
b) all of this eulogizing is a bit premature. the hacker period is not over. people are still hacking away, in fact, i'd bet that the number of people writing free software is larger now than in your idealized hacker period. it's just not big sexy news anymore. shut up and let people work.
c) before you get all misty-eyed (too late, i know), the "heart of the NET" was the u.s. military. i'm much happier with the heart of the net being porn sites than some kind of post-apocalyptic military communications network. that seems like progress to me. if some gung-ho motherfuckers get our world blown-up, the last thing i want them to be able to do is get together and talk about it afterwords.
RMS was asking Miguel to explain himself to the free software community, not to RMS.
I'd say that some people (MS especially) probably found RMS irritating from day one. Irritating (to you) or not, his questions are valid.
As I understood it, Gnome was started to be the purer, more-GNU response to KDE. If Gnome is now pulling us closer and closer to MS, and KDE is now a squeaky clean GNU-compliant project, then Gnome's raison d'etre becomes much less clear.
from what i gather, RMS spends A LOT of time travelling (e.g., he was in Brazil at the time of those comments) as an invited speaker at various places, unlike the rest of us sitting glued to our monitors all day. one can't be everywhere at once. so, ease up on the guy. he works hard.
agreed. i am very much concerned with the impact of increasing corporate control over our public life, but this idiot is not my spokesperson.
when you want to mount successful political opposition, you start by keeping your nose squeaky clean so that no one can defame your character when the real work of change begins. this kid obviously didn't get that.
yeah, f@%k all this multimedia crap! from now on, i'm just going to see plays and live music. intellectual property, me arse.
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The minimized role of American ground forces wasn't just to keep our soldiers out of harm's way. It also served a political purpose. If the U.S. military had gone in and done the job themselves, we'd be open to much more international criticism. Having local ground forces do much of the dirtywork keeps our hands significantly cleaner, and wards off some amount of the anger that Islamic nations would feel at a non-Islamic state waging war against Afghanistan.
I thought the point about "eating your own dog food" was that by being forced to use the products you develop, you develop a good feedback loop and are brought face to face with your design flaws. If you're the Chief Security Officer of MS and you have any balls, wouldn't it make sense that you should spend at least some of your time screaming at the engineers who are developing the security policies for the products for putting out total shit?
the last office i worked in (here in nyc),
was such a tight crew that when the company folded (not our fault, i promise), we started an email list for all the techies to keep in touch, and some subset of us gets together for drinks more or less once a month.
if you can't joke w/ the people you work with. . .
how can you enjoy the layoffs?
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heh. what you need is to stop being such a pussy.
the mozilla team is busting their asses to see that the web remains an open platform and not a microsoft fiefdom.
fine, the widget sets need some remaining work,
but jesus christ, you're complaining about VERY MINOR look and feel issues. get a grip.
the navigator application is meant to be a freely available reference implementation, not a finished product. as a bonus, it works quite well as a browser. if the buttons don't look just like your precious aqua interface (which is ugly as shite and looks like it was designed by someone who'd just been playing a marathon game of candyland on acid, IMHO), then wait until someone in the OS-X world develops a more native browser that will soothe your little aches and pains.
by the way: good job paying $1500 extra for some overpriced, soon-to-be-obsolete hardware. way to fall for marketing.
anyone who patents a small door at the bottom of another door is a moron. if i knew someone like that, i would spill beer on them at every possible occasion.
my. . . you have some CLEVER naming conventions yourself -- SourceFarce -- ho ho ho, good one
i think you are misunderstanding him. i don't believe he's saying that computer science courses are simply courses about microsoft software, but that microsoft software is what they USE in teaching their courses and in doing their coursework. though i can't imagine wanting to do that in the context of hands-on programming assignments (that's like throwing away half your toolset -- no od? no grep? no shell?), when it comes to theory courses, it makes little difference. i.e., if you take an algorithms course, you don't even need a computer, since it's all mathematical proofs. most of us here as we learn about operating systems, learn UNIX (because it's well-studied, source code is available for many variations, etc). but surely microsoft's crippled operating systems can likewise be used to demonstrate general principles.
yeah right. this is asia we're talking about, and in case you haven't noticed a LARGE proportion of computer science students are asian. as anecdotal evidence: in my grad school classes, i'd say at least 50% of the students are east-asian (most of them mandarin-speaking). now, sure some of those people will choose to work abroad in the u.s. or europe, but many of them out of pride-of-place will repatriate and work at home. so, i wouldn't underestimate their ability to produce software. whether they feel bound by our notion of free software ethics or not (since even the GNU license's strength is based on copyright law) is another question.
as much as people like to bitch about government projects, consider this. . . how many private companies take on engineering projects of a size comparable to the things that governments are tasked with? maybe someone like bechtel can handle such things well, but there really aren't many who can.
on the other hand, it would be cool if the company that developed it put the source out there for public review so that the software engineering-savvy among us could go, "holy fuck! you're going to direct our air traffic with this? there's a potential buffer overflow on line 1293 of file xxxx.cpp."
after all, i assume that when a government puts out that kind of cash for custom software that they get the source along with it. that makes it public property right? release it to the public then.
Why isn't that what we want? Why don't we want a core set of skills that everyone has to demonstrate competency in to get certified?
ian, this is your boss. you're fired!
actually, despite the fact that it pains me to say it, i have several non-techie friends who don't know the true evil of MS and love the x-box. it may actually be a good product.
how about this. . . is it infringement when a dj, at a club with a cover-charge, publicly plays copyrighted material for a couple hundred people dancing? is the RIAA suing dj's or clubs? what about dj's that make mixtapes and sell them? is the RIAA going to start cracking down on the "illegal" mixtape/cd market in large urban areas?
um, it's a boycott if you organize enough people to have an actual effect on the people you're boycotting. in your case, it's just called "an isolated individual not buying music".
way to get in an off-topic dig at birth control/disease prevention, dumbass. so i'm going to follow you right off the topic. question for you. . . do you think that the constitution should be taught in health class? it would seem a poor fit to me, whereas birth control would seem to be a natural part of the curriculum. hmm, in that case maybe the constitution should also be taught in math and science classes as well.
i've said this many times, to numerous people, but i just don't think filesharing is so dangerous to the music economy. i was a napster junkie when it was good, and now amongst some friends i have access to a 2000+ ripped-cd mp3 repository (w/ search, etc). but i still BUY on the order of 3-4 cd's a week. perhaps i'm just dumb. but i want the cd, i want the liner notes, i want the original packaging. now, if those same cd's were copy-protected, i would refuse to buy them, but as long as no one is denying me my rights, i don't mind supporting the artists.
The President a figurehead? Surely you jest. Surely, watching the events of this fall, you've observed that G.W. has gotten every item on his wish list, just by draping himself in the flag. In fact, when I think about our post-WWII military record, it seems that almost all of our adventures have been spurred on by the executive branch and either rubber-stamped by congress, or snuck past them. (I'm thinking Vietnam, various adventures in Nicaragua, Panama, Haiti, Grenada, the Gulf War, the current conflict in Afghanistan, etc.)
I do agree about the childish partisanship, except that I get the feeling that it's all a ruse to distract us from noticing that common goal you mention. (lining their pockets w/ corporate money)
vermont rocks! jim jeffords, decent snowboarding, excellent beer, opt-in laws. lots of close-knit little small towns. it's an americana wet dream.
if only it wasn't so f*&king cold there in the winter.
-w
this article reminds me of exactly why i stopped reading wired several years ago: it's sensationalist fluff.
a) the "gurus of wired" never did anything but write pie-in-the-sky articles about the "new economy", as if infotech somehow freed the human race from manufacturing, farming, etc (a decidedly first-world conceit). if it wasn't that specious line of reasoning, then it was silly futurist articles about how technology was going to either make everyone into a superhuman cyborg or alternately turn the planet into a william gibson novel gone wrong. i give wired props for graphic design, but not much else. read it in an airport when you're bored, but if you want science news, read a science journal.
b) all of this eulogizing is a bit premature. the hacker period is not over. people are still hacking away, in fact, i'd bet that the number of people writing free software is larger now than in your idealized hacker period. it's just not big sexy news anymore. shut up and let people work.
c) before you get all misty-eyed (too late, i know), the "heart of the NET" was the u.s. military. i'm much happier with the heart of the net being porn sites than some kind of post-apocalyptic military communications network. that seems like progress to me. if some gung-ho motherfuckers get our world blown-up, the last thing i want them to be able to do is get together and talk about it afterwords.
RMS was asking Miguel to explain himself to the free software community, not to RMS.
I'd say that some people (MS especially) probably found RMS irritating from day one. Irritating (to you) or not, his questions are valid.
As I understood it, Gnome was started to be the purer, more-GNU response to KDE. If Gnome is now pulling us closer and closer to MS, and KDE is now a squeaky clean GNU-compliant project, then Gnome's raison d'etre becomes much less clear.
from what i gather, RMS spends A LOT of time travelling (e.g., he was in Brazil at the time of those comments) as an invited speaker at various places, unlike the rest of us sitting glued to our monitors all day. one can't be everywhere at once. so, ease up on the guy. he works hard.
agreed. i am very much concerned with the impact of increasing corporate control over our public life, but this idiot is not my spokesperson.
when you want to mount successful political opposition, you start by keeping your nose squeaky clean so that no one can defame your character when the real work of change begins. this kid obviously didn't get that.
-w
yeah, f@%k all this multimedia crap! from now on, i'm just going to see plays and live music. intellectual property, me arse.
The minimized role of American ground forces wasn't just to keep our soldiers out of harm's way. It also served a political purpose. If the U.S. military had gone in and done the job themselves, we'd be open to much more international criticism. Having local ground forces do much of the dirtywork keeps our hands significantly cleaner, and wards off some amount of the anger that Islamic nations would feel at a non-Islamic state waging war against Afghanistan.
uh, why don't *you* do the research and get back to us, eh?
I thought the point about "eating your own dog food" was that by being forced to use the products you develop, you develop a good feedback loop and are brought face to face with your design flaws. If you're the Chief Security Officer of MS and you have any balls, wouldn't it make sense that you should spend at least some of your time screaming at the engineers who are developing the security policies for the products for putting out total shit?
the last office i worked in (here in nyc),
was such a tight crew that when the company folded (not our fault, i promise), we started an email list for all the techies to keep in touch, and some subset of us gets together for drinks more or less once a month.
if you can't joke w/ the people you work with. . .
how can you enjoy the layoffs?