Ya but unless you got win2K for free or something who would pay for it? I could see may be on a real bad day paing $89. But the $200+?!? Hell no. Betweem the evilness and shit software they put out I dont want to give them one more red cent. And for those of you who say win2k is the best thing since toast...well they said that about Win95, had all the same hype around it. Only time will tell.
Case in point: The suit against Toshiba. The lawyers got 1.2Bil USD, I/should/ be getting a $450 check in the mail. If not im going to file a class-action suit agenst the lawyers for not paing me:) Its still kinda fucked up that these guys got $1.2Bil over a defective laptop that they maybe paid $1700 for NEW.
Ive been happy with the Webgear (Av 2Gz) wireless lan cards. They support Linux and I havnt had any problems with them. You can get 2 PCMCIA Wireless cards and 2 PCMCIA-to-ISA cards all for $140. Range is about 1000 feet outside and 500 inside. I think their site is www.webgear.com.
"the beliefs of the Open-Source community shows the most stupidity...IE(no standards,forced open source,artists aren't in it for the money, so we deserve their stuff for free,etc.)." Umm..NO standards? what are you smoking? Your using a few open standards as you post on slashdot. Ever hear of HTML and TCP/IP? Both well documented open standards. I don't know where you get this idea of "forced open source", I have yet to see this anyware. If you don't want it opensourced don't open source it. And yes we do deserve their stuff for free, thats the way the artests want it. If they didnt then they would NEVER HAVE put their software under the GPL/BSDL/whatever.
And I know Open-SSH isnt uncrackable but if a bug was found then a patch would be but up by some nice person. How do I know this? OSS's track record. Look at older holes that where found, then look how long it took for a patch to hit the net. The time normaly ranges from a matter of hours to a day or to. Now look at a big closed source company like MS. It takes them a few days just to admit to the problem, then you are lucky to see a patch with in a month.
And DVD uses something like 4 bit encryption, them finding those unencryped keys was only a nice short cut, it would only have taken them a little bit of time to brake the weak encryption by hand anyways.
umm..this thred is about if OSS is secure or not, If I started talking about other things I would be off topic. I don't need to defend thigs we arnt even talking about.
"simply put, you, my friend, are not inline with reality here. start administering a large campus network,watch the utilization go down the tubes with some new entertainment-based protocol and ask yourself, is this a wise and fair use of limited bandwidth that is meant to be shared by all attendees?"
Oh, so you think you can just change the terms of the contract after I signed it?!? If I want to download legal 650Meg.ISO files every night guess what, I will, thats what I pay this school for. If the network is slow do to alot of people on it guess what, thats not the other users problem - its the schools problem and they had better upgrade. I didnt pay all this money to live in a POS dorm for nothing.
"...just the same way that my company's net connection isn't there for me to abuse." Umm, reality check. Its not the same. I PAY the school for my internet hookup and I can use it with in the terms of my contract. YOU get PAID by your company to do work, not download pr0n all day on their bandwith. Big diff there.
"so IF I want to create a secure protocol over the internet, with a client that uses a special algorithim that encrypts the datastream, you are telling me that open source will make this more secure than non open source...." Yep thats what I'm saying. Should I trust your shit? Or something like OpenSSH? There could be some little hole in your "special algorithim" that you didnt see. I'm sure the people who made up the DVD encyption thought there stuff was good too...
"I will Use the open source community for 2 things: 1) fucking programmers over. and 2) making ME $$$!!!!!!!!!!!!!..." heh, you have your resons and I have mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"I would like to know what YOU do for a lving...and if YOU would like it if people thought you should work for free.!"
OK, ive learned 2 things, A) you like your "!" key and B) You know nothing of open source programers. NO ONE makes them code for free, I don't see a gun held to their heads, they do it because they want to. And the ones that spend most of their time working on open source projects are a better person then you or I, for they are not so shallow that they are ruled by the almighty $.
The ruling will just be about sealing "Exhibit B", not the whole internet. And in case you forgot the internet is not a US only thing, so how could non-US people be in defiance of a US court?
""the open-source "movement" is bullshit.......it makes any internet application Insecure"" So your saying something like Windows NT is more "secure" then something like OpenBSD? So some funky protocal made up by 3 guys at some company are more secure then the standerd protocals that have been well tested and looked over by 1000's of other people?
""Watch, this comment will be marked as (-1 offtopic), or (-1 troll).....because they don't want others to know the truth(I understand...""
No i dont think you understand, the moderators are not "they" or "The Man", they are your peers. If you posted under something OTHER then the coward account then you to would have moderation power at some point. If you RTFM you would have known that anyone with a user account and a non-negitive karma would be a moderator at some point and that the moderators only get 5 points to play with at a time. So the moderation power is always changing hands.
I was not exagerating. My setup is linux 2.2.13/slackware 7 on a K6-2. I can safly say that it IS as stable as Nav4.X and it a least feels faster to me.
"and remember you're welcome to help testing/tweaking/hacking it " Im no coder so I just test and hit bugzilla. Moz still has some bugs(try to insert a image w/composer) but it isnt as bad as alot of people on./ make it out to be.
Would IBM still be around if there where no IBM compadables? Apple couldnt make it work. And some said cheap clones made Apple look bad..well do the packardbells and el'cheapo K-mart brand PC's make the DELLs and GW2Ks look bad? No they make them look better. I think Apple would be alot bigger if they opened the hardware, they would still have to sell a copy of macos to everyone. If they did this early on just think of how big apple would have been. MS HAD JACK SHIT for a GUI os in the 1980's.
Its funny to see some mac users get so worked up over bullshit. Who cares who had what first. Does it really matter? No. What matters is what my computer can do for me NOW. Your OS did something 6 months before mine can? Yawn..who gives a fuck.
"Actually they can"...umm no they can't. MS vs Apple proved that.
"Funny, no one tries to rip off those advanced GUIs Gnome or KDE. I wonder why..." Oh get a clue you silly slashdoter. How old is KDE/Gnome now? And how good was MacOS in 1985? Thought so...
oh wait..Doesnt MAC OS X have tinted windows? Where have i seen that before:) And why is MacOS based on BSD? I thought this 30 year old mainframe unix shit was evil. bla bla bla
So just because its Apple its OK to bully people around? Dont think so. These people where not making money off these skins. You could download it for free. Why dont they go after the X people with the MacOS themes? Its no diffrent. Apple lost that bullshit "Look and feel" suit, they just feel they can do what they want because they are bigger. I think aqua is gay looking and i dont even run windows...but I would still mirror it of Apple makes skinz.org pull it.
M12 was ok but the nightly build of what will be M13 rules. I now use it inplace of Netscape for most things, in fact im using it now. It is faster then NS 4.X and just as stable. If you ask me they are in the alpha stage and close to beta. Its only a matter of time.
Apple is no better then MS. If they had MS's market share thay would be worse. God help you if you make anything for the Mac with out checking with Apple 1st. Remember the clones?
Next thing you know they are going to be going after the sawmill MacOS X themes. Anyone got a mirror of these windows themes?
Slashdot Mirror
Ya but unless you got win2K for free or something who would pay for it? I could see may be on a real bad day paing $89. But the $200+?!? Hell no. Betweem the evilness and shit software they put out I dont want to give them one more red cent. And for those of you who say win2k is the best thing since toast...well they said that about Win95, had all the same hype around it. Only time will tell.
here
Here is a ASCII version of the guy you all know and love
And the photo i made it out of
The gimp plug-in is called AA. It can be found on gimp.org. And no those links are not in 80x25 :P
Lynx/2.8.1pre.9 libwww-FM/2.14
Why? This you?
http://hackme.dhs.org/AAshot.html
You pay to go there, you also pay for that laptop.
It didn't have much to do with that CERT. It was a bug in the slashdot software that blocked the IMG tags(or something).
http://www.strato.net/~richcorp/images/slashbug
Those should be on what im told a is fast server...
Now that its fixed, could someone clue the non swift users like my self on how they got a IMG tag past slashdot?
Case in point: The suit against Toshiba. The lawyers got 1.2Bil USD, I /should/ be getting a $450 check in the mail. If not im going to file a class-action suit agenst the lawyers for not paing me :) Its still kinda fucked up that these guys got $1.2Bil over a defective laptop that they maybe paid $1700 for NEW.
Ive been happy with the Webgear (Av 2Gz) wireless lan cards. They support Linux and I havnt had any problems with them. You can get 2 PCMCIA Wireless cards and 2 PCMCIA-to-ISA cards all for $140. Range is about 1000 feet outside and 500 inside. I think their site is www.webgear.com.
source,artists aren't in it for the money, so we deserve their stuff for free,etc.)."
Umm..NO standards? what are you smoking? Your using a few open standards as you post on slashdot. Ever hear of HTML and TCP/IP? Both well documented open standards.
I don't know where you get this idea of "forced open source", I have yet to see this anyware. If you don't want it opensourced don't open source it. And yes we do deserve their stuff for free, thats the way the artests want it. If they didnt then they would NEVER HAVE put their software under the GPL/BSDL/whatever.
And I know Open-SSH isnt uncrackable but if a bug was found then a patch would be but up by some nice person. How do I know this? OSS's track record. Look at older holes that where found, then look how long it took for a patch to hit the net. The time normaly ranges from a matter of hours to a day or to. Now look at a big closed source company like MS. It takes them a few days just to admit to the problem, then you are lucky to see a patch with in a month.
And DVD uses something like 4 bit encryption, them finding those unencryped keys was only a nice short cut, it would only have taken them a little bit of time to brake the weak encryption by hand anyways.
And yes it is just that easy!
umm..this thred is about if OSS is secure or not, If I started talking about other things I would be off topic. I don't need to defend thigs we arnt even talking about.
Oh, so you think you can just change the terms of the contract after I signed it?!? If I want to download legal 650Meg
"...just the same way that my company's net connection isn't there for me to abuse."
Umm, reality check. Its not the same. I PAY the school for my internet hookup and I can use it with in the terms of my contract. YOU get PAID by your company to do work, not download pr0n all day on their bandwith. Big diff there.
Yep thats what I'm saying. Should I trust your shit? Or something like OpenSSH? There could be some little hole in your "special algorithim" that you didnt see. I'm sure the people who made up the DVD encyption thought there stuff was good too...
"I will Use the open source community for 2 things: 1) fucking programmers over. and 2) making ME $$$!!!!!!!!!!!!!..."
heh, you have your resons and I have mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"I would like to know what YOU do for a lving...and if YOU would like it if people thought you should work for free.!"
OK, ive learned 2 things, A) you like your "!" key and B) You know nothing of open source programers. NO ONE makes them code for free, I don't see a gun held to their heads, they do it because they want to. And the ones that spend most of their time working on open source projects are a better person then you or I, for they are not so shallow that they are ruled by the almighty $.
The ruling will just be about sealing "Exhibit B", not the whole internet. And in case you forgot the internet is not a US only thing, so how could non-US people be in defiance of a US court?
""the open-source "movement" is bullshit.......it makes any internet application Insecure""
So your saying something like Windows NT is more "secure" then something like OpenBSD?
So some funky protocal made up by 3 guys at some company are more secure then the standerd protocals that have been well tested and looked over by 1000's of other people?
""Watch, this comment will be marked as (-1 offtopic), or (-1 troll).....because they don't want others to know the truth(I understand...""
No i dont think you understand, the moderators are not "they" or "The Man", they are your peers. If you posted under something OTHER then the coward account then you to would have moderation power at some point. If you RTFM you would have known that anyone with a user account and a non-negitive karma would be a moderator at some point and that the moderators only get 5 points to play with at a time. So the moderation power is always changing hands.
32F / 0C is freezing.
Does anyone know where there is a archive of the webcast? I looked on Zdnet's site and didnt see it. Thanks
"and remember you're welcome to help testing/tweaking/hacking it " Im no coder so I just test and hit bugzilla. Moz still has some bugs(try to insert a image w/composer) but it isnt as bad as alot of people on ./ make it out to be.
Would IBM still be around if there where no IBM compadables? Apple couldnt make it work. And some said cheap clones made Apple look bad..well do the packardbells and el'cheapo K-mart brand PC's make the DELLs and GW2Ks look bad? No they make them look better. I think Apple would be alot bigger if they opened the hardware, they would still have to sell a copy of macos to everyone. If they did this early on just think of how big apple would have been. MS HAD JACK SHIT for a GUI os in the 1980's.
"Actually they can"...umm no they can't. MS vs Apple proved that.
"Funny, no one tries to rip off those advanced GUIs Gnome or KDE. I wonder why..." Oh get a clue you silly slashdoter. How old is KDE/Gnome now? And how good was MacOS in 1985? Thought so...
oh wait..Doesnt MAC OS X have tinted windows? Where have i seen that before
Other things Apple ripped-off:
the 3 peace computer (monitor,KB,CASE/CPU).
Directorys- or as apple calls them "folders"
COLOR screens
Use of a harddrive
Does it really matter WHO had WHAT idea first? No. Some ideas suck, others are good. You pick the good ones and use them.
So just because its Apple its OK to bully people around? Dont think so. These people where not making money off these skins. You could download it for free. Why dont they go after the X people with the MacOS themes? Its no diffrent. Apple lost that bullshit "Look and feel" suit, they just feel they can do what they want because they are bigger. I think aqua is gay looking and i dont even run windows...but I would still mirror it of Apple makes skinz.org pull it.
M12 was ok but the nightly build of what will be M13 rules. I now use it inplace of Netscape for most things, in fact im using it now. It is faster then NS 4.X and just as stable. If you ask me they are in the alpha stage and close to beta. Its only a matter of time.
Next thing you know they are going to be going after the sawmill MacOS X themes. Anyone got a mirror of these windows themes?