Again, the Florida Congress/Assembly has the power to levy taxes, not the governor. Has civics education slipped so far that people don't understand how government works?
Uh, I'm no expert in Florida constitutional matters, but in many states the governor has line-item veto, which means governor's have even more power over exactly what becomes law in their state than the US President who has only "all or nothing" veto power.
But you know that from 7th grade Civics, don't you?
Yes, the tie changes color because Moore splices together different bits and pieces to get Heston to sound like a real villain.
It's dishonest and it's wrong.
Here's the "changing tie" claim on bowling for truth (scroll down to the section "Timeline Trickiness"). http://www.bowlingfortruth.com/bowl ingforcolumbine/scenes/hestonrally1.htm
You will see a very interesting image, a collage of 3 images from Bowling for Columbine-- Heston in blue tie, a billboard, and Heston in a red tie. These are 3 consecutive images from Bowling for Columbine.
Ask yourself why is the billboard image cropped so much that it is not readable?
The billboard as shown in the movie (I'm working from memory here) is an advertisement for the upcoming Denver NRA event at which Heston speaks while wearing the blue tie.
The grandparent poster claimed, "Charlton Heston's tie changes colour in what is supposedly one speech"
But, according to bowlingfortruth.com in the movie you are introduced to Charlton Heston with his trademark catchphrase, then you are shown a billboard that says there will be an NRA Annual meeting in Denver, then you are shown a scene from the Heston speech at Denver, where Heston is wearing different clothes, in a different room, with a different backdrop.
Dishonest how? Wrong why? Or are you just picking nits because you cannot find any actual factual errors in the movie?
I think the bowlingfortruth.com site is the best thing that could have ever happened for F911. That is, it prepared Moore for the nitpicking and distortion that will be done to F911. There isn't a single word in F911 that hasn't been thoroughly researched and verified by a team of fact checkers.
And on my way to see the movie, I listened to Savage Nation for a different viewpoint.
My point in making the post was, if I want to get into a political discussion on the merits of this movie, I will go to a political site.
Heh, I thought I was the only one who listens to both Hannity and Franken.
I get tired, though, of reading about what does and doesn't belong on Slashdot. If you want a site that does only technology I'm sure you can find one. Even easier, you could just, you know, not read this article. On the right side of your browser you will find a little elevator thingy known as a "scroll bar". Just click on that and pull the mouse toward you to bypass any article which does not interest you.
He has apparently used rather dodgy editing techniques (Charlton Heston's tie changes colour in what is supposedly one speech) and staged events and presented them as real (getting a shotgun from a bank).
You have been misled by someone. The only thing "staged" about the bank scene was calling ahead to get permission to bring cameras into the bank. See: http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/wackoattacko/
Do you have a source for your claim about Heston's tie?
# Make two or three copies of everything you REALLY want to keep (don't get lazy and save everything, show a bit of judgment.)
LOL. So you're saying I'm lazy and lack judgment?
Seriously, there is no way to know what you REALLY want to keep. I organize my files by subject matter, not importance. Life is too short, and I'm too busy, to waste time and brain power on sorting out the important from the unimportant for backup.
The opposite of job stress is not boredom, it is job satisfaction. You will not find satisfaction in a low-skill factory job or other similar employment if you are used to exercising your brain.
There are many jobs in manufacturing, however, which are quite challenging and interesting. Get into precision machining, tool-making, maintenance, automation, etc., and you'll find the work is challenging, well-paid, and rewarding.
it's really not popular, but I don't agree with the doomsday global warming scenarios either....I mean, even the Russians are saying Kyoto just kills economies...
Cool! So if we don't agree with scientific findings or worse yet, if those findings might cost us money, then those findings are not valid?
I guess the people who are trying to wish away evolution are going to wish away global warming as well.
DRM ciphers the files on your computer and requires remote authorization (via the Internet) before deciphering them. It requires hardware support to prevent running unauthorized programs which could possibly save the file in unciphered format.
I agree that it's a difficult challenge, but in this day and age, is it really impossible? Especially if it becomes an election issue. I think this is the year that the presidential election could turn on technical issues such as this.
The other thing about April Fool's Day is that noone ever believes me when I say it's my birthday.
Me too! My dad had a hard time convincing my grandparents I had really been born. Back then making a long distance call was still kind of a big deal, at least on his wages, so they finally figured he was too cheap to make the call just for a laugh.
120 days to provide FULL documentation on Windows code interfaces?
If true, does that mean Wine will be able to soon run ALL Windows apps perfectly?
The $ is chicken feed for M$, and unbundling Media PLayer doesn't sound like that big of a deal, either. IF the API's are truly going to be Out There for us then that's a BIG BIG deal, right?
Is it still Firefox, though? How do you draw the line? Is it OK if $Distro were to add some spyware to Firefox and still call it Firefox?
no one has had a problem with it before
That's because it hasn't really been a problem yet, because for the most part, OSS has been a tiny niche market. That will change, and the people who brought you spam, spyware and pop-ups will re-build OpenOffice, Mozilla, and RedHat to their own nefarious purposes. If those people make a few "bugfixes" (such as fixing the bug in Mozilla which blocks popups) do you want them to be able to still call it "Mozilla"?
there is nothing preventing Microsoft from distributing a broken version of Linux. However, they can't call it Linux, because the trademark is owned by Linus Torvalds. This is a good thing.
Yup. How else do you know it's really MOzilla. A lot of the comments regarding this article are utterly wrong to think the Mozilla team is only chasing t-shirt profits. It's not about MONEY, it's about defining what Mozilla Firefox is.
The Debian discussion is a good case in point. Debian has been making changes to Firefox, so the product they are shipping really is not Firefox, it is Debian's derivative of Firefox. That's all well and good, but they sure as hell shouldn't be calling it Firefox anymore.
Debian, we appreciate your principled pursuit of the one free distro, but if you change Firefox, it ain't Firefox anymore; it's a fork.
The trademark is the only way (other than actually reading all sources) we know we are getting the REAL Firefox and not some bullshit Gator spyware.
We all know Debian is not going to re-write FireFox in bad ways, but someone will. I'm just surprised it hasn't happened more yet.
Maintaining the integrity of OSS and the reputation of OSS will become THE MOST DIFFICULT challenge as popularity grows.
If Mozilla had 50% marketshare and no control over what "Mozilla" is, there would be 7,000 different Mozilla's out there. It's going to be bad enough that there will be 7k forks of Moz at some point all with different names and logos.
I know this is the wrong place to say such things, but I've had lots of problems with other MS problems, but this one since 7.0 has been quite good.
I disagree that this is the wrong place to say such things. Slashdotters need to realize that we have our own version of FUD, where M$ can't do anything right. The facts are, they have come a long way in the last 3 years or so, and OSS cannot rest on its laurels.
Microsoft has recognized it's two biggest technological faults have been security and stability. They have made huge strides in both areas.
Has OSS been making sufficient strides in our weakest area? (I believe the weakest areas to be usability for non-geeks and easily installing software applications across distros.)
Why should a *monopoly* need superbowl ads and an army of salespeople, anyways?
That's the point. They are losing their monopoly. That means they are no longer going to be able to collect monopoly rents.
When the telephone and cable tv monopolies were granted in your locality, it was based on the idea that it would be inefficient to build more than one phone system and more than one cable system in your locality. Now the cable system is just another TCP/IP network and the phone system is just another TCP/IP network.
What happens when the phone company sells video and the cable system sells voip? Worse yet (from the corporate perspective), what happens when the end users realize their cable (or satellite) tv, cell phone, home phone, etc., are really just nodes on the internet and begin to treat them as such? What happens when big bandwidth, omnipresent and too-cheap-to-meter wireless connectivity to the net becomes commonplace?
in India VoIP is mostly illegal(you cannot connect to PSTN). This has come about because the telephone companies can bribe the Govt, and Govt also does not want VoIP coz it will mean lost revenue to state own telecom mammoth BSNL
I'll bet you it becomes illegal not to connect voip to the pstn as the pstn walled garden whithers in the next couple decades.
At some point, the pstn is going to be little more than a central dns server which will point dialed calls to the right client on the net. That's what the article is about, really-- the death struggles of industries which are obsolete today, but who will linger for a long time. While they linger, they will use any means necessary to try to maintain their current position, even if it's a kamikaze move like walling themselves off from VoIP, which over time is the same as saying, "We are not part of the internet." They should be taking this opportunity to become the innovators in enabling the pstn to interact with the internet, but instead they are taking this opportunity to make it clear they are obsolete.
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What do you expect from people who'd rather learn about the political process from a movie rather than doing their own research.
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You understand, of course, that the parent post is WRONG don't you? Or are you learnign about the political process by reading
Again, the Florida Congress/Assembly has the power to levy taxes, not the governor. Has civics education slipped so far that people don't understand how government works?
Uh, I'm no expert in Florida constitutional matters, but in many states the governor has line-item veto, which means governor's have even more power over exactly what becomes law in their state than the US President who has only "all or nothing" veto power.
But you know that from 7th grade Civics, don't you?
Yes, the tie changes color because Moore splices together different bits and pieces to get Heston to sound like a real villain.
l ingforcolumbine /scenes/hestonrally1.htm
It's dishonest and it's wrong.
Here's the "changing tie" claim on bowling for truth (scroll down to the section "Timeline Trickiness").
http://www.bowlingfortruth.com/bow
You will see a very interesting image, a collage of 3 images from Bowling for Columbine-- Heston in blue tie, a billboard, and Heston in a red tie. These are 3 consecutive images from Bowling for Columbine.
Ask yourself why is the billboard image cropped so much that it is not readable?
The billboard as shown in the movie (I'm working from memory here) is an advertisement for the upcoming Denver NRA event at which Heston speaks while wearing the blue tie.
The grandparent poster claimed, "Charlton Heston's tie changes colour in what is supposedly one speech"
But, according to bowlingfortruth.com in the movie you are introduced to Charlton Heston with his trademark catchphrase, then you are shown a billboard that says there will be an NRA Annual meeting in Denver, then you are shown a scene from the Heston speech at Denver, where Heston is wearing different clothes, in a different room, with a different backdrop.
Dishonest how? Wrong why?
Or are you just picking nits because you cannot find any actual factual errors in the movie?
I think the bowlingfortruth.com site is the best thing that could have ever happened for F911. That is, it prepared Moore for the nitpicking and distortion that will be done to F911. There isn't a single word in F911 that hasn't been thoroughly researched and verified by a team of fact checkers.
And on my way to see the movie, I listened to Savage Nation for a different viewpoint.
My point in making the post was, if I want to get into a political discussion on the merits of this movie, I will go to a political site.
Heh, I thought I was the only one who listens to both Hannity and Franken.
I get tired, though, of reading about what does and doesn't belong on Slashdot. If you want a site that does only technology I'm sure you can find one. Even easier, you could just, you know, not read this article. On the right side of your browser you will find a little elevator thingy known as a "scroll bar". Just click on that and pull the mouse toward you to bypass any article which does not interest you.
He has apparently used rather dodgy editing techniques (Charlton Heston's tie changes colour in what is supposedly one speech) and staged events and presented them as real (getting a shotgun from a bank).
You have been misled by someone. The only thing "staged" about the bank scene was calling ahead to get permission to bring cameras into the bank.
See: http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/wackoattacko/
Do you have a source for your claim about Heston's tie?
# Make two or three copies of everything you REALLY want to keep (don't get lazy and save everything, show a bit of judgment.)
LOL. So you're saying I'm lazy and lack judgment?
Seriously, there is no way to know what you REALLY want to keep. I organize my files by subject matter, not importance. Life is too short, and I'm too busy, to waste time and brain power on sorting out the important from the unimportant for backup.
The opposite of job stress is not boredom, it is job satisfaction. You will not find satisfaction in a low-skill factory job or other similar employment if you are used to exercising your brain.
There are many jobs in manufacturing, however, which are quite challenging and interesting. Get into precision machining, tool-making, maintenance, automation, etc., and you'll find the work is challenging, well-paid, and rewarding.
it's really not popular, but I don't agree with the doomsday global warming scenarios either. ...I mean, even the Russians are saying Kyoto just kills economies...
Cool! So if we don't agree with scientific findings or worse yet, if those findings might cost us money, then those findings are not valid?
I guess the people who are trying to wish away evolution are going to wish away global warming as well.
My overclocked p4 could cook a steak!
My water cooled p4 could chill wine!
DRM ciphers the files on your computer and requires remote authorization (via the Internet) before deciphering them. It requires hardware support to prevent running unauthorized programs which could possibly save the file in unciphered format.
The government would never allow this. No way.
I agree that it's a difficult challenge, but in this day and age, is it really impossible? Especially if it becomes an election issue. I think this is the year that the presidential election could turn on technical issues such as this.
Fact is, any system that can be built, can be bypassed, so I don't know what the hell he's talking about.
But if it's not undetectable, it can't be removed. Pretty scary stuff, if you ask me. Undetectable software should be illegal.
I agree totally. Vigilance is the cost of freedom. Maybe we should start a OPSux website or something.
As you can see from this story from last year, the stories are simply preposterous.
Aren't the Slashdot editors concerned that this sort of behavior could damage their journalistic integrity?
At the very least it could cause some hurt feelings on the part of their users.
Thanks for the head's up! I'll read with a more jaundiced eye from now on.
You might want to look at the date. (Hint: It's not March anymore.)
What's your point?
The other thing about April Fool's Day is that noone ever believes me when I say it's my birthday.
Me too! My dad had a hard time convincing my grandparents I had really been born. Back then making a long distance call was still kind of a big deal, at least on his wages, so they finally figured he was too cheap to make the call just for a laugh.
Happy birthday, eh.
120 days to provide FULL documentation on Windows code interfaces?
If true, does that mean Wine will be able to soon run ALL Windows apps perfectly?
The $ is chicken feed for M$, and unbundling Media PLayer doesn't sound like that big of a deal, either. IF the API's are truly going to be Out There for us then that's a BIG BIG deal, right?
Sounds like the EU is going to show some spine and actually ENFORCE their antitrust laws. What a concept.
It's close enough to firefox,
Is it still Firefox, though? How do you draw the line? Is it OK if $Distro were to add some spyware to Firefox and still call it Firefox?
no one has had a problem with it before
That's because it hasn't really been a problem yet, because for the most part, OSS has been a tiny niche market. That will change, and the people who brought you spam, spyware and pop-ups will re-build OpenOffice, Mozilla, and RedHat to their own nefarious purposes. If those people make a few "bugfixes" (such as fixing the bug in Mozilla which blocks popups) do you want them to be able to still call it "Mozilla"?
there is nothing preventing Microsoft from distributing a broken version of Linux. However, they can't call it Linux, because the trademark is owned by Linus Torvalds. This is a good thing.
Yup. How else do you know it's really MOzilla. A lot of the comments regarding this article are utterly wrong to think the Mozilla team is only chasing t-shirt profits. It's not about MONEY, it's about defining what Mozilla Firefox is.
The Debian discussion is a good case in point. Debian has been making changes to Firefox, so the product they are shipping really is not Firefox, it is Debian's derivative of Firefox. That's all well and good, but they sure as hell shouldn't be calling it Firefox anymore.
Debian, we appreciate your principled pursuit of the one free distro, but if you change Firefox, it ain't Firefox anymore; it's a fork.
The trademark is the only way (other than actually reading all sources) we know we are getting the REAL Firefox and not some bullshit Gator spyware.
We all know Debian is not going to re-write FireFox in bad ways, but someone will. I'm just surprised it hasn't happened more yet.
Maintaining the integrity of OSS and the reputation of OSS will become THE MOST DIFFICULT challenge as popularity grows.
If Mozilla had 50% marketshare and no control over what "Mozilla" is, there would be 7,000 different Mozilla's out there. It's going to be bad enough that there will be 7k forks of Moz at some point all with different names and logos.
This becomes just another fast way to piss the RIAA off.
Not as much the MPAA. They are the ones who fear the next generation of fat pipes.
I know this is the wrong place to say such things, but I've had lots of problems with other MS problems, but this one since 7.0 has been quite good.
I disagree that this is the wrong place to say such things. Slashdotters need to realize that we have our own version of FUD, where M$ can't do anything right. The facts are, they have come a long way in the last 3 years or so, and OSS cannot rest on its laurels.
Microsoft has recognized it's two biggest technological faults have been security and stability. They have made huge strides in both areas.
Has OSS been making sufficient strides in our weakest area? (I believe the weakest areas to be usability for non-geeks and easily installing software applications across distros.)
Umm, perhaps you mean literature?
Actually, I think the best word in this context would be "literary", not "literature".
"...things historical, political, and literary."
Why should a *monopoly* need superbowl ads and an army of salespeople, anyways?
That's the point. They are losing their monopoly. That means they are no longer going to be able to collect monopoly rents.
When the telephone and cable tv monopolies were granted in your locality, it was based on the idea that it would be inefficient to build more than one phone system and more than one cable system in your locality. Now the cable system is just another TCP/IP network and the phone system is just another TCP/IP network.
What happens when the phone company sells video and the cable system sells voip? Worse yet (from the corporate perspective), what happens when the end users realize their cable (or satellite) tv, cell phone, home phone, etc., are really just nodes on the internet and begin to treat them as such? What happens when big bandwidth, omnipresent and too-cheap-to-meter wireless connectivity to the net becomes commonplace?
in India VoIP is mostly illegal(you cannot connect to PSTN). This has come about because the telephone companies can bribe the Govt, and Govt also does not want VoIP coz it will mean lost revenue to state own telecom mammoth BSNL
I'll bet you it becomes illegal not to connect voip to the pstn as the pstn walled garden whithers in the next couple decades.
At some point, the pstn is going to be little more than a central dns server which will point dialed calls to the right client on the net. That's what the article is about, really-- the death struggles of industries which are obsolete today, but who will linger for a long time. While they linger, they will use any means necessary to try to maintain their current position, even if it's a kamikaze move like walling themselves off from VoIP, which over time is the same as saying, "We are not part of the internet." They should be taking this opportunity to become the innovators in enabling the pstn to interact with the internet, but instead they are taking this opportunity to make it clear they are obsolete.