We had a use for Visio in the Office. Before we ordered Visio, I checked out OpenOffice Draw based on sites that recommended it as a Visio clone. I made one doc in Draw, a half hour later I ordered Visio.
The interface was fine, the underlying libraries are not there/not easy to install.
What hasn't been thought out is the solution question: Will this complex system result in a resolution to loneliness/compatibility faster? Nutshell: More hookups?
Not everyone emulates Butthead's laugh when hearing Wang in the computing world. Most slashdot folks should know about Wang Labs, until it was absorbed by Kodak in '97. The joke died in the '70s, man.
The problem with the housing market may be a lot of people bought ARM mortgages from Punch-the-Monkey click ads. Stupid people buying from questionable mortgage companies.
Spam does sell. There must be some twit in the thousands of Mortgage spam out there for it to be effective. Flash ads like the dancing people/aliens. If they didn't work, we wouldn't see it.
And now the idiot that did that is going to get foreclosed on, dragging YOUR home value down. Or the government will bail him and the banks out, causing YOUR taxes to go up.
AT&T is no longer the old AT&T, because the name was sold to SBC.
SBC taking the name AT&T is, in my opinion, a kind of legal fraud, but fraud nevertheless. People are bound to be confused and misled. AT&T had a very good reputation. I have no clue how the parent post is informative when they obviously are too young or too ignorant to know about AT&T's 1982 monopoly breakup.
1982: AT&T->7 baby bells + AT&T long distance.
1990s:Ameritech, Southwestern bell, Bell South, Pacific Bell merge over the years to form SBC.
2005: SBC (a bunch of former baby bells) and AT&T (former monopoly) merge again to create...AT&T. And the death star is rebuilt again in shiny Web 2.0.
Ever buy a book at "Amazon?" Do a search at "Yahoo" or "Google?" Buy a domain name via "GoDaddy?" Read an article at "Wikipedia?"
How about this for humor. I was on a call with Dr. Sanger as this slashdot story hit. A common early abbreviation for Citizendium is CZ. If people involved with Wikipedia are Wikipedians or Metapedians...are Citizendium folks CZers (caesars)? There was a roll of laughter and I remember saying sarcastically "Sure...that will fly!"
Then there's stuff for which Wikipedia is just the wrong tool for the job. There are articles for a huge number of CDs, but they're not organized into a useful database like Gracenote. There are articles for musicians, actors, and movies, but they're not in a database like IMDB with all the proper connections. There are articles for books, but they're not catalogued as a library would catalogue them. There are articles for most US state highways, but they're not organized into a map or atlas system. It's an "if the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail" problem.
This is an underlying design/usability problem with Mediawiki and not necessarily Wikipedia itself. Building a proper database framework to be more encompassing (if not all encompassing - damn close) is a Citizendium design goal.
Thanks for the perspective, it helps define the problem better (in a way I hadn't thought of yet).
There are certain philosophies that have developed on Wikipedia. Inclusionists vs. Exclusionists. Anarchists vs Progressives. Immediatism vs. Eventualism. If you design a community where everyone wins...no one wins either.
"Policy is not one size fits all."
No Original Research is not good in the scientific realm...but for a Slashdot Trolling history is probably acceptable.
There is plenty of active discussion on defining both problems and solutions for Wikipedia.
Considering ink was one of mankinds first inventions, somewhere after the spear, fire and the wheel, basing/monopolizing a business on that is either pure genious or complete insanity.
Of course I do. The question is, why would you think you couldn't? Did you choose to live in a place with restrictive laws? Did you sign some covenants when you moved in? I can put a scale replica of the Taj Mahal on my property. So I'm curious how you think that helps your case.
I addressed specifics in a different reply. Your questions/arguments require a bit of context.
Barriers to Entry.
While for some the easy answer is "Why don't you just move?" or "Why don't you change the law?" There are usually significant underlying barriers that prevent that from happening. These can be simplified as "takes money to make money" or in physics terms the amount of extra energy required to overcome inertia.
Can you just pick up and move? You have a job and social network. You likely have to sell your property to have enough money for new property. Do you have enough influence and economic resources (such as a lawyer) to understand and remove binding covenants from a property contract? Does the average person? It is one of the underlying reasons the USA is constructed as a republic: to protect the minority from the majority and vice versa.
Continuing to live in a city represents an agreement that you will abide by that city's laws. Including zoning/eyesore laws if applicable. There's an implied ongoing agreement, by which you surrender your right to do certain things that you would otherwise be free to do, because they don't hurt anyone.
... and if you do not agree with the laws you can always move to rural areas or bufu Montana where laws are less strict. Or even out of the country for that matter...Or countryless if you take a houseboat out beyond 12 miles to 200 miles of a country.
The "content industry" would like to have an implied ongoing agreement that you will do nothing at all with "their" content unless you get permission. They want you to buy each individual experience of listening to the song or viewing the film, etc. This would cause such serious backlash, though, that they're left with approximating that situation as best they can.
Yes, what you have stated is a bad/unpopular business practice. Laws should be written to discourage these kinds of practices but not forbid them. For example, companies could be compelled to make owned, non-licensed non-DRM versions available alongside DRM counterparts. The cost would be higher, likely significantly, but it would be available.
This is a hopeful middle ground between Anarchy (pirating) and Capitalism (Corporatism).
You should have no dealings with people who attempt to "rent" your culture to you.
I thought the comment was quite clear and concise, however, I will provide a bit of further detail.
A common misconception of property owners is that they have the right to do anything they want to the property at anytime...like a chunk of playdoh. "I can do anything I want to it, damnit...its mine!" Your property is subject to regulation at local, municipal, regional, state and federal levels. Don't forget building and fire inspections. Heck, if the government wants...they can take your property away via imminent(sic?) domain for a interstate. (or more recently, for private development!) Property laws and rules have precedent stretching back before the USA to British common law.
That "I can do anything to it, its mine!" mentality strikes again with hard drives (Look...playdoh!) and intellectual property, licensing and DRM issues. Underneath, its all about PROPERTY! While property laws regarding physical property have had centuries to sort themselves out via the legal system, Intellectual property has only had about a full half century to sort itself out. Precedent has to be applied, and is drawn from interpreting existing property and copyright laws.
Summary: (Physical) Property rights are closely interrelated with Intelectual property rights (licensing, DRM, how the ones and zeros on your physical HD line up.)
"If they create a global multi gigabit network, they can easily create a fault tolerant telephony and data network that would rival any ISP currently in existance. " I have heard that phrase before....from fiber company Level 3.
Any "push-to-talk" service not by Nextel is VOIP over cellular data. Nothing new there.
Considering when I attended Iowa State a group of engineers rebuilt a replica of the ABC and put it on tour around Iowa and the Smithsonian, I'd say it worked pretty well.
The drum from the original is under plexiglass in the Computer Science center.
I hate it when someone throws a bunch of buzzwords and sounds intelligent.
EDGE is really just 4x GPRS, or "2.5G"
The upgrade path to 3G for GSM carriers is to UTMS/WCDMA.
For CDMA, the 1xRTT upgrade path is to CDMA2000 EV-DO.
Between the two, EVDO can fall back to 1xRTT IS95 seamlessly. UTMS can't, although it has a speed advantage.
1xRTT and EDGE are deployed everywhere. It's EVDO and UTMS that one should be looking for.
Whats amusing:Watching Nextel trying UTMS iDEN hybrid. Ping Reply: Please wait while the Nextel IP Address is found.
Scaleability (as far as speed) is only a minor factor in choosing an upgrade path. Carriers care about Capacity, netowrk reliability and footprint. For that, 1xRTT(IS95) and EVDO lay the smack on GPRS/EDGE/UTMS....and I am happy to have left the Cell industry as of yesterday.
There are exploding parts, The nuts holding the orbiter to the platform blow on liftoff. The eight giant bolts holding the orbiter to the platform are severed at launch.
The shuttle's SRBs would take the platform up with it if the bolts are not blown. I believe this is the last possible thing to go wrong that you can pull back from (At like t minus.01) before the candle is lit.
You don't have to pay for the salary, benefits, training and all the costs associated with a teller.
If your ATM costs $125,000 and $3,000 a month to maintain (High end)...you'll reap the cost of a $50,000 employee in three years.
High quality data line to run an ATM? Nope. Most older ATMS (green screen ones) run via 300 baud. You cun run that over an "alarm pair" from the phone company.
Slashdot Mirror
Concurrently,
We had a use for Visio in the Office. Before we ordered Visio, I checked out OpenOffice Draw based on sites that recommended it as a Visio clone. I made one doc in Draw, a half hour later I ordered Visio.
The interface was fine, the underlying libraries are not there/not easy to install.
You can't apply Math to Sexual Attraction.
Obligatory: http://www.xkcd.com/55/
What hasn't been thought out is the solution question: Will this complex system result in a resolution to loneliness/compatibility faster? Nutshell: More hookups?
I doubt it.
Not everyone emulates Butthead's laugh when hearing Wang in the computing world. Most slashdot folks should know about Wang Labs, until it was absorbed by Kodak in '97. The joke died in the '70s, man.
The problem with the housing market may be a lot of people bought ARM mortgages from Punch-the-Monkey click ads. Stupid people buying from questionable mortgage companies.
Spam does sell. There must be some twit in the thousands of Mortgage spam out there for it to be effective. Flash ads like the dancing people/aliens. If they didn't work, we wouldn't see it.
And now the idiot that did that is going to get foreclosed on, dragging YOUR home value down. Or the government will bail him and the banks out, causing YOUR taxes to go up.
Wonderful.
1982: AT&T->7 baby bells + AT&T long distance.
1990s:Ameritech, Southwestern bell, Bell South, Pacific Bell merge over the years to form SBC.
2005: SBC (a bunch of former baby bells) and AT&T (former monopoly) merge again to create...AT&T. And the death star is rebuilt again in shiny Web 2.0.
Wikipedia link (remember to fact check):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_System_divestiture
-jtp
Ever buy a book at "Amazon?" Do a search at "Yahoo" or "Google?" Buy a domain name via "GoDaddy?" Read an article at "Wikipedia?"
How about this for humor. I was on a call with Dr. Sanger as this slashdot story hit. A common early abbreviation for Citizendium is CZ. If people involved with Wikipedia are Wikipedians or Metapedians...are Citizendium folks CZers (caesars)? There was a roll of laughter and I remember saying sarcastically "Sure...that will fly!"
Hail CZ-er!
-Jason Potkanski
Citizendium Core Tech Team
Then there's stuff for which Wikipedia is just the wrong tool for the job. There are articles for a huge number of CDs, but they're not organized into a useful database like Gracenote. There are articles for musicians, actors, and movies, but they're not in a database like IMDB with all the proper connections. There are articles for books, but they're not catalogued as a library would catalogue them. There are articles for most US state highways, but they're not organized into a map or atlas system. It's an "if the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail" problem.
This is an underlying design/usability problem with Mediawiki and not necessarily Wikipedia itself. Building a proper database framework to be more encompassing (if not all encompassing - damn close) is a Citizendium design goal.
Thanks for the perspective, it helps define the problem better (in a way I hadn't thought of yet).
-Jason Potkanski
Citizendium Core Technical Team
"Consensus doesn't scale."
There are certain philosophies that have developed on Wikipedia. Inclusionists vs. Exclusionists. Anarchists vs Progressives. Immediatism vs. Eventualism. If you design a community where everyone wins...no one wins either.
"Policy is not one size fits all."
No Original Research is not good in the scientific realm...but for a Slashdot Trolling history is probably acceptable.
There is plenty of active discussion on defining both problems and solutions for Wikipedia.
-Jason Potkanski
Citizendium Core Technical Team
I am logged into the Vaporware(tm) Dedicated Box that was setup today.
:)
We are finally moving from "talk" to action. The Vapor you speak of will evaporate very, very quickly.
Dr. Sanger will be making an official announcement next Friday. I'll see you in a few weeks, not three years.
-Jason Potkanski
Member Citizendium Core Technical Team
I am logged into the Vaporware(tm) Dedicated Box at the moment. I'll see you in a few weeks, not a few years. :)
Dr. Sanger will be announcing more details in the next week.
The vapor is evaporating.
-Jason Potkanski
Member Citizendium Core Technical Staff
What has Citrix solved that X Windows and VNC haven't solved decades earlier?
I heard once Ink was priced more than its weight in gold, however gold has been steadily moving up...and I am lazy to do the math.
/ 03/2037207
It does seem to be more than a good champagne: http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/07
Considering ink was one of mankinds first inventions, somewhere after the spear, fire and the wheel, basing/monopolizing a business on that is either pure genious or complete insanity.
I addressed specifics in a different reply. Your questions/arguments require a bit of context.
Barriers to Entry.
While for some the easy answer is "Why don't you just move?" or "Why don't you change the law?" There are usually significant underlying barriers that prevent that from happening. These can be simplified as "takes money to make money" or in physics terms the amount of extra energy required to overcome inertia.
Can you just pick up and move? You have a job and social network. You likely have to sell your property to have enough money for new property. Do you have enough influence and economic resources (such as a lawyer) to understand and remove binding covenants from a property contract? Does the average person? It is one of the underlying reasons the USA is constructed as a republic: to protect the minority from the majority and vice versa.
Yes, what you have stated is a bad/unpopular business practice. Laws should be written to discourage these kinds of practices but not forbid them. For example, companies could be compelled to make owned, non-licensed non-DRM versions available alongside DRM counterparts. The cost would be higher, likely significantly, but it would be available.
This is a hopeful middle ground between Anarchy (pirating) and Capitalism (Corporatism).
Or, "Less is More" (Minimalism)
I thought the comment was quite clear and concise, however, I will provide a bit of further detail.
A common misconception of property owners is that they have the right to do anything they want to the property at anytime...like a chunk of playdoh. "I can do anything I want to it, damnit...its mine!" Your property is subject to regulation at local, municipal, regional, state and federal levels. Don't forget building and fire inspections. Heck, if the government wants...they can take your property away via imminent(sic?) domain for a interstate. (or more recently, for private development!) Property laws and rules have precedent stretching back before the USA to British common law.
That "I can do anything to it, its mine!" mentality strikes again with hard drives (Look...playdoh!) and intellectual property, licensing and DRM issues. Underneath, its all about PROPERTY! While property laws regarding physical property have had centuries to sort themselves out via the legal system, Intellectual property has only had about a full half century to sort itself out. Precedent has to be applied, and is drawn from interpreting existing property and copyright laws.
Summary: (Physical) Property rights are closely interrelated with Intelectual property rights (licensing, DRM, how the ones and zeros on your physical HD line up.)
You have the right to tear down your home and put up a scale replica of the Taj Mahal, right?
As zoning laws apply to your property by precdent, licensing applies to the ones and zeros on your HD by precedent.
Silly nation of laws.
Verizon's "network" is a congolmerate of roaming agreements between Verizon, Sprint, Alltel...a breakdown of the PRL is at http://www.mountainwireless.com/prl/50558.htm .
"If they create a global multi gigabit network, they can easily create a fault tolerant telephony and data network that would rival any ISP currently in existance. " I have heard that phrase before....from fiber company Level 3.
Any "push-to-talk" service not by Nextel is VOIP over cellular data. Nothing new there.
Considering when I attended Iowa State a group of engineers rebuilt a replica of the ABC and put it on tour around Iowa and the Smithsonian, I'd say it worked pretty well.
The drum from the original is under plexiglass in the Computer Science center.
For Slashdot, this is a royal flush, no?
I hate it when someone throws a bunch of buzzwords and sounds intelligent.
...and I am happy to have left the Cell industry as of yesterday.
EDGE is really just 4x GPRS, or "2.5G"
The upgrade path to 3G for GSM carriers is to UTMS/WCDMA.
For CDMA, the 1xRTT upgrade path is to CDMA2000 EV-DO.
Between the two, EVDO can fall back to 1xRTT IS95 seamlessly. UTMS can't, although it has a speed advantage.
1xRTT and EDGE are deployed everywhere. It's EVDO and UTMS that one should be looking for.
Whats amusing:Watching Nextel trying UTMS iDEN hybrid. Ping Reply: Please wait while the Nextel IP Address is found.
Scaleability (as far as speed) is only a minor factor in choosing an upgrade path. Carriers care about Capacity, netowrk reliability and footprint. For that, 1xRTT(IS95) and EVDO lay the smack on GPRS/EDGE/UTMS.
There are exploding parts, The nuts holding the orbiter to the platform blow on liftoff. The eight giant bolts holding the orbiter to the platform are severed at launch.
.01) before the candle is lit.
l ts.html
The shuttle's SRBs would take the platform up with it if the bolts are not blown. I believe this is the last possible thing to go wrong that you can pull back from (At like t minus
http://yarchive.net/space/spacecraft/explosive_bo
Maybe they can also get rid of the bots plaguing Mahjongg Solitare and other stuff on games.yahoo.com
Well...it was a dream.
Data tape reels can range from 6 inch diameter to 18 inch diameter with 10-12 being average.
e .cgi?user_action=detail&catalogno=SM2400
http://www.datalinksales.com/cgi-bin/shop/datstor
They are shipped in a flat white box about 12 x 12 x 1. Usually no other markings other than address label.
Cartridge tapes are smaller.
This sounds like one server reel being lost amongst a full backup.
ATMs are a cost savings, not a loss.
You don't have to pay for the salary, benefits, training and all the costs associated with a teller.
If your ATM costs $125,000 and $3,000 a month to maintain (High end)...you'll reap the cost of a $50,000 employee in three years.
High quality data line to run an ATM? Nope. Most older ATMS (green screen ones) run via 300 baud. You cun run that over an "alarm pair" from the phone company.
-Electrawn
Guerilla market Slashdot? No way!
Maybe I need to pay Roland Piquelle to promote my site. Will some karma or some flames do?
-Electrawn