Ah, but I wasn't talking about the government - ours, China's, or anyone's. I was talking about capitalism, pure and simple. Money. Profit.
Human rights are rights regardless of whatever government you happen to be subject to - at least, in the theoretical idealism that I'd like to think is an over-arching concept.
Microsoft is using "laws" and "government" to hide behind. Their true motive is simple capitalism. Using any words like government or law to back up what they did is expedient and hides their true motive.
And no, I'm not quite as leftist as that sounds, believe it or not....just realistic.
imho, this discussion unfortunately is blurring political ideology, issues with Microsoft, and the concept of freedom of information worldwide that many people consider sacrosanct on the internet.
Of course a private company has the right to block or remove content in this country. Of course others like Cisco, Google, etc. have done comparable things.
Don't make the mistake of confusing capitalism with human rights. I personally find this abhorrent. However, there's no hope of a for-profit company actually taking the risk of upsetting a large source of future income. And in the meantime, almost 10,000 people were put to death in China last year. This person may help the count this year.
So much for the idealistic wishes of the internet being a nation-free zone with no censorship...unless more sites do mirror these things, and some country or organization promotes the concept of freedom on the internet apart from laws for any given nation. Which is what I believe the internet should be.
definitely free as long as you can pick up the wi-fi. apparently my sister lives near someone (or place) that has wi-fi, my daughter and my niece use it in their house all the time....
...you can't possibly work in DC and be this naive...right? I see their handiwork every day, right in downtown DC.
Regarding congresspeople - the statement "They're there to listen to you" is SO off the mark. What they are there for is to desperately raise money and support so they don't lose their jobs in 2 years. This is not exactly a topic that's going to win them votes in 90% of the country.
If you still believe in your government, spend your time on the senators - at least they have a little breathing room before they prostitute themselves to the public again.
Place your time, effort and money on lobbyists, if you ever want to see this go through. Or journalists - they seem to be able to drum up hype quite effectively....
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Ah, but I wasn't talking about the government - ours, China's, or anyone's. I was talking about capitalism, pure and simple. Money. Profit.
Human rights are rights regardless of whatever government you happen to be subject to - at least, in the theoretical idealism that I'd like to think is an over-arching concept.
Microsoft is using "laws" and "government" to hide behind. Their true motive is simple capitalism. Using any words like government or law to back up what they did is expedient and hides their true motive.
And no, I'm not quite as leftist as that sounds, believe it or not....just realistic.
I would have expected better *if* CERT was still in the hands of a university. I wouldn't trust a government analysis as far as I could throw a CRAY.
Or conversely, if we go back to the infamous commercial - Aldous Huxley's post-mortem sponsorship.
imho, this discussion unfortunately is blurring political ideology, issues with Microsoft, and the concept of freedom of information worldwide that many people consider sacrosanct on the internet.
Of course a private company has the right to block or remove content in this country. Of course others like Cisco, Google, etc. have done comparable things.
Don't make the mistake of confusing capitalism with human rights. I personally find this abhorrent. However, there's no hope of a for-profit company actually taking the risk of upsetting a large source of future income. And in the meantime, almost 10,000 people were put to death in China last year. This person may help the count this year.
So much for the idealistic wishes of the internet being a nation-free zone with no censorship...unless more sites do mirror these things, and some country or organization promotes the concept of freedom on the internet apart from laws for any given nation. Which is what I believe the internet should be.
close...philadelphia! (but you're right...a major city, near a bunch of universities...so there's a shock).
definitely free as long as you can pick up the wi-fi. apparently my sister lives near someone (or place) that has wi-fi, my daughter and my niece use it in their house all the time....
I'll say this much: at least George Lucas wasn't creating a new religion on a bet, like L. Ron Hubbard was. Or.....was he???
...you can't possibly work in DC and be this naive...right? I see their handiwork every day, right in downtown DC.
Regarding congresspeople - the statement "They're there to listen to you" is SO off the mark. What they are there for is to desperately raise money and support so they don't lose their jobs in 2 years. This is not exactly a topic that's going to win them votes in 90% of the country.
If you still believe in your government, spend your time on the senators - at least they have a little breathing room before they prostitute themselves to the public again.
Place your time, effort and money on lobbyists, if you ever want to see this go through. Or journalists - they seem to be able to drum up hype quite effectively....