He is probably shooting with his camera and cellular hotspoting it to a webservice (Flickr, Picasa web albums) etc., and then pulling down the pics on the Ipad.
Let me guess: you drive a car. I use my netbook more often because I ride the bus to and from work and to and from the store.
Absolutely I do. If I did ride the bus, I'm not sure where the heck I'd be able to use a laptop. On a crowded bus, but the time I cram myself and my laptop bag into a chair, there simply would be no room to use a netbook. That's if I'd get a seat -- at which point I want music more than a computer device.
So I want to transfer data from a desktop PC to a portable device, but I don't have the time to turn on both my desktop PC and my netbook and set up a shared folder before my ride leaves. In this case, I'd put all the files on a USB flash drive, get on the bus, and then copy the files to my netbook.
Again, a perfectly valid use case, just not one I can relate to very well. Maybe it's just the way I work or what I work on, but I find transfer of files between machines is something I do pretty infrequently. If I do, it's more of a work situation, at which point my laptop and USB (or Dropbox) come into play, and my iPad (which is all for personal use) is out of the equation.
When I travel for business, I have my work laptop, and my personal iPad. Except for checking my email from my iPad, the tasks I do on the machines are essentially totally different.
A bit of rouge satellite goes extremely well with some eyeliner asteroid, and you'll want to round them out with a nice, light, gamma burst lipstick to bring it all together.
Doesn't the solar system look so pretty now?
Ummm... I think that might be the first make-up tips I've ever seen on Slashdot.
There are also the Eyefi SD cards out there that use wifi and will transmit the pics to a storage device. I recently saw a video from a professional photog that used an iPad wirelessly
But, you still need to be connected to a wifi network of some kind, no??
It's not like you could take the iPad and the Eyefi SD card in the middle of nowhere and have them pair, is it? That would be fairly cool if you didn't need to be near an access point.
I can absolutely seeing this being something pros would like.
So what do you do when you don't know the WEP key or WPA key of any of the Wi-Fi APs around you? Or when you're riding in a vehicle? That's when USB storage support becomes useful. Perhaps these cases apply to you less often than to me though.
Well, if I'm traveling, I'm usually in airports and hotels that have wifi. If I'm not in one of those, I'm probably neither using my iPad nor trying to push data onto it. It's just not a use-case that I've encountered -- I only occasionally need to push data onto my laptop with a USB, my iPad, pretty much not at all. Either direct from the web, or pushed from my desktop so I have it with me.
The only vehicle I have ever used my iPad in is an airplane. And I'm watching movies, playing games, reading books, or listening to music.
I have literally never used a USB stick of any form in a vehicle. Not once. As a matter of fact, I can't even think of a situation in which I would want to be using a USB stick in a vehicle -- some sort of shady deal in an alley involving the transfer of data? Clandestine distribution of an eBook? Again, I'm completely stumped as to when I would need to do this, but maybe you have a far more exciting life than me that involves USB transfers at highway speeds.;-)
I'm not saying your complaints aren't valid... but I must say that I can't relate to the need to do some of this stuff. I just don't see it as being that much of a limitation.
But give me the choice, because I DO want to customize things!
It all comes down to choice. I like making my choices. You prefer apple to make them for you.
It's not that I don't want to make choices... it's that most of the "choices" I see defended here on Slashdot... well, to be frank, I don't give a damn about them. Exercise the choice to buy it or not... and then get over what the rest of us do with it.
Like I said, if you want the "freedom" and the "choice" to install Hurd or some other obscure thing, and if you want to obsessively fiddle with kernel parameters and mount your own filesystems in new and creative ways or do any manner of wacky things... then, you're absolutely right, a device made by Apple isn't for you.
Apple knows that you're not their market. But the big wide consumer market is made up of people who don't have any interest (or, indeed, the knowledge) to do the kinds of things you want to. They don't want to compile a kernel, or change their window manager. They just want to touch the screen and have what they expected to see appear. Having all of those options you want largely increases the odds of messing up the device.
After using computers for almost 30 years... well, there's just some things I don't care about doing for the most part. I can if I have to, but for a device which is primarily used for entertainment, I have no interest.
However, thanks to Apple, people are now at least making additional tablets that do give you the freedoms you want. While still leaving the rest of us the freedom to buy the one that we don't need to do that with.
Until recently, a tablet was an expensive, niche item which few people could fathom. Google wouldn't be introducing this if Apple hadn't demonstrated that people are willing to buy them.
So, run wild. Buy another tablet that suits your needs. Enjoy it. Fiddle with it. Fuck up the operating system and have to reinstall from scratch. Whatever floats your boat.:-P
Smoketoomuch: What, spell bolour with a 'K'? Bounder: Yes! Smoketoomuch: Kolour! Oh, thank you! I never thought of that. What a silly bunt.
I must confess, I was never really a big fan of the KDE stuff -- first of all, that ridiculous fascination with the letter K. But, I always found that the GUI was, well, kind of ugly and reminiscent of ancient versions of Windows. Granted, I've not seen it in a long time, so that is likely unfair. But, I distinctly remembering that it felt like a very dumbed down GUI with a strong emphasis on a common (but ugly) look and feel.
I think my biggest problem with it was that almost everything wanted to have its own file format, instead of using one that existed. But, as I said, I haven't seen it in a long time.
Maybe you haven't heard, but apple has blocked this feature with ios 4.2.1. Too much power is what they claim....
*laugh* Really? That is kind of funny.
I guess it's not something I've ever cared about trying -- if I fill my 8GB card in my camera, I have a couple of spare 4GB cards, and if I fill those, I can scavenge a couple of 2GB ones from my older camera. If I realistically expected to be taking the 2K + images that implies, I'd make sure to buy another 8+ GB card.
Definitely not defending bad support for USB/SD after the upgrade, but, I use my cameras and my iPad for different things. However, I'm sure for some people, this is a huge pain in the ass.
Personally, I've found the WiFi to be much flakier after the upgrade. Which is a bit of a pain in the ass.
Of course if it had a USB socket in the first place -- and some very standard drivers -- you could use a generic MicroSD adapter for $5.
While that's true, I have yet to find myself with the need to connect a USB drive to it. It's got WiFi, and I've got Dropbox.
But, I'm also aware that the average Slashdotter nowadays isn't happy with a device unless he can install GNU Hurd on it and resurrect some software from an Amiga. Any devices which can't do that are lame and evil and all that blah blah.
For me, I don't find the absence of built-in USB to be much of a limitation, nor does the fact that I can't install the latest Linux Kernel on it. For what I use it for, it does exactly what I need it to.
Please, do not say "yet another tablet"; finally we have a serious iPad rival.
Do you? I sorta got the impression that this is a prototype and not generally available yet. It's a teaser...
Rubin didn't offer my many spec details on the tablet, which he joked would cost $10,000, but he did say it was running an NVidia dual core CPU (presumably a Tegra).
It sounds like something not ready for production, and, I wonder what kind of battery life it has -- a dual core tablet might not have a great battery life. I think trying to cram a desktop into a tablet just gives you a heavy tablet with crappy battery life.
Anyway, no matter what tablet people end up buying... consumers simply weren't buying tablets in any meaningful numbers before the iPad. Now that a lot of companies are following suit, I expect it to start to become a very prominent form factor, no matter who makes it.
How exactly do you upload pictures from your camera to your iPad? The most convenient way would be to take pictures on a micro SD card (with an SD adapter) and then put the micro SD in your tablet. But you need a tablet with a micro SD slot.
Apple sells a camera kit. Basically it gives you a pair of dongles that connects to the Apple connector for thirty bucks -- one for SD, one for USB. Voila, tablet with SD slot. You can then offload from your camera.
A Micro SD -> SD adapter is an exercise for the reader.
I think what you're missing in this case is you are the customer, the magazine is the business you're dealing with, and Apple is the 3rd party company insisting on having your credit card details.
I have a direct business relationship with Apple. I expected them to have my credit card, since I gave it to them.
If I buy something from Apple, I sure as hell don't expect the company who made that thing to get any information on me.
Do you expect that if you bought a Playstation from Wal Mart that they would send it to Sony?
Do you see?
As a matter of fact, NO. You haven't said anything meaningful, and you haven't refuted anything I said. You merely switched some pronouns and decreed you've made a great coup of logic.
I know they get a cut of the sale of the magazine app, but they also get a cut of any subscriptions?
Well, turn it around a little bit... Apple is essentially operating a retail store for use by anybody who wants to sell through it. Cut out distribution costs, costs of processing credit card transactions, cost of bandwidth, cost of fighting fraud, verifying people's ages... and what Apple is doing cuts out a lot of traditional costs and overhead.
Apple is shouldering the work and cost of doing all of this... I'm betting there's a lot of smaller entities who are jumping at the ability to have Apple to all of this. I think that 30% is actually quite reasonable for what Apple is providing. Judging by the number of games which rely on in-game purchases to generate revenue, I'm betting it is probably pretty lucrative if you make something people are interested in.
In this case, it's somewhat disruptive to the existing business practices, but it's not like Apple is ripping them off. I think they're getting fair compensation for providing a useful infrastructure that makes it easy for consumers to gets stuff, and for companies to throw something over the wall and then collect the revenues.
And, yes, I do have an iTunes account. And, no, I have never paid for a damned thing from it -- there are developers making all sorts of really good free software. And before someone throws out this old chestnut... the MP3s I rip from CDs using iTunes are DRM free.
I only hope these policies are not Apple's undoing because it would be a real shame.
I applaud Apple for this stance. Why should someone have access to my damned credit card data if I make the purchase through a 3rd party? I don't give a flying fsck that your business model needs my personal information -- my business model says it's none of your *(%*# business.
I don't understand why these companies feel entitled to this information, or why consumers shouldn't be asking why they need it in the first place. In a sane world, corporations would have limits on what they're allowed to retain of your personal information and what they can do with it, not this "we get everything and do whatever we please with it" crap where they get to sell it, archive it, cross reference it, and anything else they please.
In the end everybody will make alliances just not to have to deal with Apple's policies.
Well, whining and bitching about Apple's policies aside -- it's not like you can ignore the size of the market that is people with iPhones/iPads. Apple is doing more to protect their customers, as opposed to thinking that the people who buy their products are just the gateway drug to advertising revenue.
Personally, I'd rather see companies who insist on getting my credit card data go out of business than see Apple cave to this.
The entertainment industry. Yup, of the people, by the people, and for the people. More like the oligarchy.
And what really chaffs most about this is they pressured the US government to pressure other countries to adopt copyright legislation treaties more stringent than what the DMCA was, and then use that to basically cause the US to now have to adopt those as well.
It's like they managed to negotiate on behalf of the oligopolies and then make everyone beholden to them. I've said before, the "entertainment/copyright" industry now has almost direct control over the internet.
They have a lot more latitude nowadays to lock you up for "suspicion" of crimes, so you don't need to do anything. Now that the supposed "Western" governments who were supposed to believe in liberty and freedom have gotten used it it, it will only get worse.
Soon, I expect it to be a crime to criticize governmental policy under the crime of sedition.
per the editor of the HTML5 draft specs, Ian Hickson [wikipedia.org], expect HTML5 to be a W3C recommended standard in 2022.
2022???? WTF?
Very few standards from 12 years ago are still meaningful -- this basically says that HTML 5 will never really exist, and we'll be onto HTML 7 before this even becomes a standard.
Does anyone know if there's a website I can visit that will send each of the links I've visited in the past and check it against this list of 485 violators? That would be really easy and helpful to the victims and myself!
See, now that's funny.:-P
Yes, we should all send our entire browsing history to yet another company so they can verify if we might have given away private data.
CmdrTaco: Do you EVER read any submission before publishing?
Before you piss and moan...
This study comes as a result of the increasing complexity of JavaScript web applications propagating privacy-violating information flows. ‘Privacy-violating information flows’ is a general term which can be subcategorized into four areas of nefarious activity: cookie stealing, location hijacking, history sniffing, and behavior tracking. Their goal was to draw attention to the prevalence of history sniffing at high traffic sites.
Trying reading TFA before you whine too loudly, those words are a direct quote, and, apparently not a typo.
Not saying that sometimes the editors shouldn't proof read more, but it's important to actually know the difference.
Slashdot Mirror
Wow ... nothing but net. :-P
Well, I will still be overweight and clumsy. And, I don't generally drink from straws.
I don't foresee that being a big issue. ;-)
Absolutely I do. If I did ride the bus, I'm not sure where the heck I'd be able to use a laptop. On a crowded bus, but the time I cram myself and my laptop bag into a chair, there simply would be no room to use a netbook. That's if I'd get a seat -- at which point I want music more than a computer device.
Again, a perfectly valid use case, just not one I can relate to very well. Maybe it's just the way I work or what I work on, but I find transfer of files between machines is something I do pretty infrequently. If I do, it's more of a work situation, at which point my laptop and USB (or Dropbox) come into play, and my iPad (which is all for personal use) is out of the equation.
When I travel for business, I have my work laptop, and my personal iPad. Except for checking my email from my iPad, the tasks I do on the machines are essentially totally different.
Ummm ... I think that might be the first make-up tips I've ever seen on Slashdot.
Now, stop it! ;-)
But, you still need to be connected to a wifi network of some kind, no??
It's not like you could take the iPad and the Eyefi SD card in the middle of nowhere and have them pair, is it? That would be fairly cool if you didn't need to be near an access point.
I can absolutely seeing this being something pros would like.
Well, if I'm traveling, I'm usually in airports and hotels that have wifi. If I'm not in one of those, I'm probably neither using my iPad nor trying to push data onto it. It's just not a use-case that I've encountered -- I only occasionally need to push data onto my laptop with a USB, my iPad, pretty much not at all. Either direct from the web, or pushed from my desktop so I have it with me.
The only vehicle I have ever used my iPad in is an airplane. And I'm watching movies, playing games, reading books, or listening to music.
I have literally never used a USB stick of any form in a vehicle. Not once. As a matter of fact, I can't even think of a situation in which I would want to be using a USB stick in a vehicle -- some sort of shady deal in an alley involving the transfer of data? Clandestine distribution of an eBook? Again, I'm completely stumped as to when I would need to do this, but maybe you have a far more exciting life than me that involves USB transfers at highway speeds. ;-)
I'm not saying your complaints aren't valid ... but I must say that I can't relate to the need to do some of this stuff. I just don't see it as being that much of a limitation.
It's not that I don't want to make choices ... it's that most of the "choices" I see defended here on Slashdot ... well, to be frank, I don't give a damn about them. Exercise the choice to buy it or not ... and then get over what the rest of us do with it.
Like I said, if you want the "freedom" and the "choice" to install Hurd or some other obscure thing, and if you want to obsessively fiddle with kernel parameters and mount your own filesystems in new and creative ways or do any manner of wacky things ... then, you're absolutely right, a device made by Apple isn't for you.
Apple knows that you're not their market. But the big wide consumer market is made up of people who don't have any interest (or, indeed, the knowledge) to do the kinds of things you want to. They don't want to compile a kernel, or change their window manager. They just want to touch the screen and have what they expected to see appear. Having all of those options you want largely increases the odds of messing up the device.
After using computers for almost 30 years ... well, there's just some things I don't care about doing for the most part. I can if I have to, but for a device which is primarily used for entertainment, I have no interest.
However, thanks to Apple, people are now at least making additional tablets that do give you the freedoms you want. While still leaving the rest of us the freedom to buy the one that we don't need to do that with.
Until recently, a tablet was an expensive, niche item which few people could fathom. Google wouldn't be introducing this if Apple hadn't demonstrated that people are willing to buy them.
So, run wild. Buy another tablet that suits your needs. Enjoy it. Fiddle with it. Fuck up the operating system and have to reinstall from scratch. Whatever floats your boat. :-P
I must confess, I was never really a big fan of the KDE stuff -- first of all, that ridiculous fascination with the letter K. But, I always found that the GUI was, well, kind of ugly and reminiscent of ancient versions of Windows. Granted, I've not seen it in a long time, so that is likely unfair. But, I distinctly remembering that it felt like a very dumbed down GUI with a strong emphasis on a common (but ugly) look and feel.
I think my biggest problem with it was that almost everything wanted to have its own file format, instead of using one that existed. But, as I said, I haven't seen it in a long time.
*laugh* Really? That is kind of funny.
I guess it's not something I've ever cared about trying -- if I fill my 8GB card in my camera, I have a couple of spare 4GB cards, and if I fill those, I can scavenge a couple of 2GB ones from my older camera. If I realistically expected to be taking the 2K + images that implies, I'd make sure to buy another 8+ GB card.
Definitely not defending bad support for USB/SD after the upgrade, but, I use my cameras and my iPad for different things. However, I'm sure for some people, this is a huge pain in the ass.
Personally, I've found the WiFi to be much flakier after the upgrade. Which is a bit of a pain in the ass.
While that's true, I have yet to find myself with the need to connect a USB drive to it. It's got WiFi, and I've got Dropbox.
But, I'm also aware that the average Slashdotter nowadays isn't happy with a device unless he can install GNU Hurd on it and resurrect some software from an Amiga. Any devices which can't do that are lame and evil and all that blah blah.
For me, I don't find the absence of built-in USB to be much of a limitation, nor does the fact that I can't install the latest Linux Kernel on it. For what I use it for, it does exactly what I need it to.
Please, do not say "yet another tablet"; finally we have a serious iPad rival.
Do you? I sorta got the impression that this is a prototype and not generally available yet. It's a teaser ...
It sounds like something not ready for production, and, I wonder what kind of battery life it has -- a dual core tablet might not have a great battery life. I think trying to cram a desktop into a tablet just gives you a heavy tablet with crappy battery life.
Anyway, no matter what tablet people end up buying ... consumers simply weren't buying tablets in any meaningful numbers before the iPad. Now that a lot of companies are following suit, I expect it to start to become a very prominent form factor, no matter who makes it.
Apple sells a camera kit. Basically it gives you a pair of dongles that connects to the Apple connector for thirty bucks -- one for SD, one for USB. Voila, tablet with SD slot. You can then offload from your camera.
A Micro SD -> SD adapter is an exercise for the reader.
I have a direct business relationship with Apple. I expected them to have my credit card, since I gave it to them.
If I buy something from Apple, I sure as hell don't expect the company who made that thing to get any information on me.
Do you expect that if you bought a Playstation from Wal Mart that they would send it to Sony?
As a matter of fact, NO. You haven't said anything meaningful, and you haven't refuted anything I said. You merely switched some pronouns and decreed you've made a great coup of logic.
You haven't.
No, I state outright that I don't think those companies need any of that %$@* information.
That may be true, but they're not giving it away that Facebook would happily do.
In what way? As I recall, the tracks are still $0.99, and they managed to get the Beatles' library ... seriously, how have they caved?
Well, TFA doesn't seem to say they're caving to the publishing industry.
You make a couple of assertions, but you're not backing up anything.
Well, turn it around a little bit ... Apple is essentially operating a retail store for use by anybody who wants to sell through it. Cut out distribution costs, costs of processing credit card transactions, cost of bandwidth, cost of fighting fraud, verifying people's ages ... and what Apple is doing cuts out a lot of traditional costs and overhead.
Apple is shouldering the work and cost of doing all of this ... I'm betting there's a lot of smaller entities who are jumping at the ability to have Apple to all of this. I think that 30% is actually quite reasonable for what Apple is providing. Judging by the number of games which rely on in-game purchases to generate revenue, I'm betting it is probably pretty lucrative if you make something people are interested in.
In this case, it's somewhat disruptive to the existing business practices, but it's not like Apple is ripping them off. I think they're getting fair compensation for providing a useful infrastructure that makes it easy for consumers to gets stuff, and for companies to throw something over the wall and then collect the revenues.
And, yes, I do have an iTunes account. And, no, I have never paid for a damned thing from it -- there are developers making all sorts of really good free software. And before someone throws out this old chestnut ... the MP3s I rip from CDs using iTunes are DRM free.
I applaud Apple for this stance. Why should someone have access to my damned credit card data if I make the purchase through a 3rd party? I don't give a flying fsck that your business model needs my personal information -- my business model says it's none of your *(%*# business.
I don't understand why these companies feel entitled to this information, or why consumers shouldn't be asking why they need it in the first place. In a sane world, corporations would have limits on what they're allowed to retain of your personal information and what they can do with it, not this "we get everything and do whatever we please with it" crap where they get to sell it, archive it, cross reference it, and anything else they please.
Well, whining and bitching about Apple's policies aside -- it's not like you can ignore the size of the market that is people with iPhones/iPads. Apple is doing more to protect their customers, as opposed to thinking that the people who buy their products are just the gateway drug to advertising revenue.
Personally, I'd rather see companies who insist on getting my credit card data go out of business than see Apple cave to this.
And what really chaffs most about this is they pressured the US government to pressure other countries to adopt copyright legislation treaties more stringent than what the DMCA was, and then use that to basically cause the US to now have to adopt those as well.
It's like they managed to negotiate on behalf of the oligopolies and then make everyone beholden to them. I've said before, the "entertainment/copyright" industry now has almost direct control over the internet.
See thoughtcrime and Minority Report.
They have a lot more latitude nowadays to lock you up for "suspicion" of crimes, so you don't need to do anything. Now that the supposed "Western" governments who were supposed to believe in liberty and freedom have gotten used it it, it will only get worse.
Soon, I expect it to be a crime to criticize governmental policy under the crime of sedition.
How open is it? Is it available to other people to implement? I know there's alternate readers.
Not on anything I can control -- I friggin' hate flash.
2022???? WTF?
Very few standards from 12 years ago are still meaningful -- this basically says that HTML 5 will never really exist, and we'll be onto HTML 7 before this even becomes a standard.
That's pretty messed up.
See, now that's funny. :-P
Yes, we should all send our entire browsing history to yet another company so they can verify if we might have given away private data.
You, sir, need a newsletter. ;-)
Animals, Obscured by Clouds ... The Wall is probably their most well-known though.
However, it was a joke and not a serious comment on Pink Floyd. :-P
From Facebook, Digg, and the linked site no less.
Man, I love noscript.
Before you piss and moan ...
Trying reading TFA before you whine too loudly, those words are a direct quote, and, apparently not a typo.
Not saying that sometimes the editors shouldn't proof read more, but it's important to actually know the difference.
No, that was one of their best albums, actually. ;-)
Oh, you meant Facebork, sorry.