Is it really astounding? I thought astronomers see things they've never seen before all the time.
In this case, I believe it's actually an entirely new class of object that can be seen. Those crop up fairly rarely.
Usually the new stuff is variations on existing themes -- a new kind/occurrence of something, or more knowledge about something we already knew about.
Heck, it's the first new class of object I remember ever hearing about. Quasars, black holes, galaxies, stars, nebulae, comets, meteors, planets, asteroids.... sure. But I can't even think of the last time the list of kinds of things in the universe got expanded.
The problem with religious stories is that the mythologies are too paltry
Nice troll. Really.
But, to play purely devil's advocate -- if there truly was a creator-being, it would encompass all that is science, and wouldn't require the Earth to be only 6000 years old.
That creator would fall into the realm of completely unknowable -- it would be outside of what we understand of the universe, and capable of understanding and manipulating things we still can't fathom. I'm not sure the human brain could wrap itself around what that would really imply since it would be such a vastly complex and advanced thing as to be beyond our ability to perceive and understand.
When you get to questions about "what existed before the big bang" or "what happens after we die" or the other really meta stuff, you are outside of what science can comment on. Morality, for example, isn't really in the realm of science.
While not personally religious, I've known people with degrees in astrophysics who were quite religious, and had absolutely no conflict between the science and their concept of god. However, being Really Fucking Smart People with an understanding of the science... their concept of god was correspondingly much bigger, and encompassed a whole lot more. God didn't need to be stepping into fiddle with the bits science wasn't clear on, and science didn't intrude on the bits that God was in control of. For them, there existed no dichotomy between god and science.
My notion is that if your religion can include all applicable science, it's not harming anybody, and is probably a good thing overall. It's only when the religion needs to deny the science to prop up its own viewpoints that it starts to break down. At a certain level, they do (and should) cover non-intersecting areas of endeavor.
Religion isn't bad per se, it's bad when it wants to override reality and is inflexible/oblivious to the world around it.
Didn't that guy bring this up with Supersize me like years ago?
I'm not saying there's no such thing as personal responsibility...
But, it's cheaper to eat McD's that actual fresh food from a grocery store -- both in terms of $$, and time. And, in Super Size Me, he actually went through withdrawal when he didn't have that crap. Your body starts to crave the high sugar/high fat.
You start giving a four year McD's on a regular basis, putting it into schools and whatnot, you're going to end up with this problem. Sadly, a lot of children grow up and will only eat this crap, and actual vegetables and real food is something they'll turn their noses up at. Heck, I suspect the parents sitting across from this kid are also way obese too.
If you are that fat... You arent eating a happy meal.
The Happy Meal is the gateway drug.
You get hooked from the shiny toy and the burger. Next thing you know, you're hossin' down the super-sized double Big Mac combo with a side of cheeseburgers like El Gordo there.
No longer being RCMP officers or any other kind police officer
Tighter rules on using the damned tasers
Having a court say once and for all that "excited delirium" is bullshit and not a valid medical term and can't be used to describe a death which only happens when tasers are used
I think you actually have to suck the horns, no the balls.
Yikes!! Either way, you're getting the business end of the bull.
(And, that was one of the most appalling things I've seen in a while. Thanks, you prick.;-) [no actual disrespect intended, I'm just scarred now... can I get a hug?]
When I just read that my heart kind of sank. Is there anything more tragic then a group of people in supposed authority harming another man? Sigh.
Oh, lying about it. Covering it up. Denying it happened until the video surfaced. Discrediting the poor sod they killed and the guy who took the only video that proved it happened. Confiscating the video and refusing to give it back. Using Taser's BS "excited delirium" argument to say that it wasn't the Taser that killed him, but his own body. Avoiding all criminal responsibility. Still being active police officers.
The bottom is a long way down, and the tragedy runs pretty deep on this one. They didn't even try to resolve this peacefully, they just went straight to over-use of force.
Absolutely every aspect of that is completely appalling and fubar.
Can they do that? If they did introduce such a law is it specific the G8/20? I didn't see it get passed.
Well, there's these, but that's mostly for non-citizens.
I'm not seriously asserting there is a specific law... but, it seems like someone always manages to dredge up some obscure law which can be construed to support such things.
Also, such a law sounds very vague and could be easily abused to trample people's rights.
Bingo! That seems to be SOP nowadays. Most western countries seem to have a "this is illegal but we're doing it anyway" provision or two they use.
*sigh* Maybe I'm jut a cynic. But with the full-court press they're putting into security for this damned thing... this guys is at the very least going to get detained and harassed for a while. As to longer-term consequences... who knows.
On the bright side, you get to cut the bull's balls off and eat it if you win.
If you consider that a perk, go ahead.
But, if you lose, you have to suck the bull's balls before he has his way with you. It's a dangerous game of chicken, and a little too risky in my opinion.
You need a license for that up there? Dang. That's harsh. Here in the US you can get Canadian Ham by just walking into a McDonalds and ordering an Egg McMuffin. Except we call it "Canadian Bacon".
Actually, the stuff you buy at McDonald's is Soylent Ham. We keep the good stuff domestic.;-)
If you have a butter knife or stapler on you (or in your car when they pull you over), and they arrest you for anything, then you can get charged with "possession of a weapon"...
Dude, a stapler?? Are you kidding me? That will get you Tasered to death in Canada.
While I don't know the details on what all is is alleged to have done -- he did set a goal to deliberately try to see if they would detect his behavior. He was planning on sending emails with words that would get him flagged by any hypothetical electronic searches they were running, and generally trying to look suspicious to see if they've noticed him. All in the name of seeing what kind of security they had in place, and how well it works.
He may well be completely innocent, a crack-pot, or just some misguided hacker who thinks it's his job to "take on the man". But, it's kind of like trying to get the bull to chase you -- you might not like it when he does. I'm pretty sure they've made trying to identify/breach their security procedures illegal.
The geek and hacker in me applauds such a balsy move. The pragmatist in me thinks he might have tried just a little too hard to get noticed. I mean, antagonizing an already skittish security apparatus... not the smartest move you can make.:-P
I'm looking to actually hearing more facts as they become available.
Oh, wow. I read this as Google is porting android. Intel porting android is a much more interesting bit of news. Either Intel is so big that they have multiple departments with the same goal, and completely contradictory strategies, or they've decided that Meego is crap already, and are abandoning it for Android.
Or, they've done what any sufficiently large organization does... Don't leave money on the table. If you can collect from both piles, do it.
Intel wants to increase the market for all of their products. They're not going to let a little ideology about which is better stand in the way of generating money. There's a lot of hoopla surrounding mobile computing, and they don't want to get left behind.
Large companies frequently want to have it both ways. You 'or' isn't an 'xor' -- 'a or b' can actually be both.
No, seriously. I think I remember reading about this earlier this year in Scientific American or something... only it was on a big lake in Russia and they worked during the winter when everything is frozen. Kind of cool, bleeding edge stuff.
I gather that the one in the Antarctic will be bigger, and give a view in a different direction than the Russian one.
but when fashion designers have their hands on nuclear technology, i think we can pretty much declare the effort to contain nuclear technology over, and just start writing the epitaph for civilization. we're doomed
People who live in NYC don't generally care enough about their neighbors to lynch them. Now Texas or Oklahoma, There any half way decent rabble rouser can get a lynch mob together with just a megaphone and few cases of beer.
So, pretty much any NASCAR race, rodeo, or BBQ then?:-P
I kid, I kid. (Especially since people from Texas and Oklahoma are known to carry guns.;-)
However, you'll notice that the second article you cite says that Kaposi's Sarcoma is a cancerous tumor due to a virus called Human herpesvirus 8 (HHV8). Most famously, it's associated with HIV/AIDS, but not exclusively.
HHV-8 is responsible for all varieties of KS.
So, no radiation there.
I'm not sure that anything in the wiki link supports the notion that radiation is the cause of that rather disturbing picture. There's more there to infer that he's HIV+ (or at least has an infection which also opportunistically infects HIV+ people since I don't want to speculate).
Now, it could be radiation suppressed his immune system, and he contracted HHV8. Or it's not KS, but is radiation related.
Of course, I'm not a doctor, lawyer, nuclear scientist, biologist, or expert in communicable diseases... so take all I say with a grain of salt. I just recognized KS from the 80's when they were still trying to figure out WTF was killing people before they even had a name for HIV, and KS was one of the first things they identified.
The US should immediately withdraw from all copyright treaties, amend its copyright law to best serve the domestic interests of all Americans
Except, you forget that it's US politicians cramming these copyright laws down the rest of the world's collective throat, under the guise of protecting US interests. Heck, the *AA's help their equivalent group in various countries lobby the government to get your DMCA passed. So much so, that, they'll just re-use the document in another country.
TFA points out that Congress is acting under the belief that they are protecting US interests since more US property was being copied in foreign countries than the reverse. At least, according to data provided to them by the people who wanted the law.
Trust me, other countries aren't saying "oooh, we need a law like that". The US is saying in lightly veiled threats that if the other countries don't adopt the law, there might be some consequences. Sadly, the lobbying groups in the US are pushing very hard to use faulty 'reports' to get certain things deemed 'true' in the US, and then pushing the same crappy data abroad. Data they made up via arms length think-tanks which are basically paid shills to write position papers they need.
As long as your politicians give such weight to the testimony of the RIAA/MPAA, we're all getting shafted. But don't think for a minute that it's the rest of the world imposing these treaties and laws on the US. That's why the appeal court basically said that Congress could do this... because they claim to be protecting US interests.
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So ... it's turtles all the way down then?
In this case, I believe it's actually an entirely new class of object that can be seen. Those crop up fairly rarely.
Usually the new stuff is variations on existing themes -- a new kind/occurrence of something, or more knowledge about something we already knew about.
Heck, it's the first new class of object I remember ever hearing about. Quasars, black holes, galaxies, stars, nebulae, comets, meteors, planets, asteroids .... sure. But I can't even think of the last time the list of kinds of things in the universe got expanded.
Nice troll. Really.
But, to play purely devil's advocate -- if there truly was a creator-being, it would encompass all that is science, and wouldn't require the Earth to be only 6000 years old.
That creator would fall into the realm of completely unknowable -- it would be outside of what we understand of the universe, and capable of understanding and manipulating things we still can't fathom. I'm not sure the human brain could wrap itself around what that would really imply since it would be such a vastly complex and advanced thing as to be beyond our ability to perceive and understand.
When you get to questions about "what existed before the big bang" or "what happens after we die" or the other really meta stuff, you are outside of what science can comment on. Morality, for example, isn't really in the realm of science.
While not personally religious, I've known people with degrees in astrophysics who were quite religious, and had absolutely no conflict between the science and their concept of god. However, being Really Fucking Smart People with an understanding of the science ... their concept of god was correspondingly much bigger, and encompassed a whole lot more. God didn't need to be stepping into fiddle with the bits science wasn't clear on, and science didn't intrude on the bits that God was in control of. For them, there existed no dichotomy between god and science.
My notion is that if your religion can include all applicable science, it's not harming anybody, and is probably a good thing overall. It's only when the religion needs to deny the science to prop up its own viewpoints that it starts to break down. At a certain level, they do (and should) cover non-intersecting areas of endeavor.
Religion isn't bad per se, it's bad when it wants to override reality and is inflexible/oblivious to the world around it.
Well, yeah, that too ... :-P
Well, I don't know how accurate it is, but this link doesn't include anyplace in Hawaii as the cloudiest place on Earth.
Scotland, however, is well represented with 2 of the top 10, which matches their reputation. :-P
I'm not saying there's no such thing as personal responsibility ...
But, it's cheaper to eat McD's that actual fresh food from a grocery store -- both in terms of $$, and time. And, in Super Size Me, he actually went through withdrawal when he didn't have that crap. Your body starts to crave the high sugar/high fat.
You start giving a four year McD's on a regular basis, putting it into schools and whatnot, you're going to end up with this problem. Sadly, a lot of children grow up and will only eat this crap, and actual vegetables and real food is something they'll turn their noses up at. Heck, I suspect the parents sitting across from this kid are also way obese too.
The Happy Meal is the gateway drug.
You get hooked from the shiny toy and the burger. Next thing you know, you're hossin' down the super-sized double Big Mac combo with a side of cheeseburgers like El Gordo there.
I'd accept three things:
*laugh* Thanks.
Cheers
Yikes!! Either way, you're getting the business end of the bull.
(And, that was one of the most appalling things I've seen in a while. Thanks, you prick. ;-) [no actual disrespect intended, I'm just scarred now ... can I get a hug?]
Fuck.
Oh, lying about it. Covering it up. Denying it happened until the video surfaced. Discrediting the poor sod they killed and the guy who took the only video that proved it happened. Confiscating the video and refusing to give it back. Using Taser's BS "excited delirium" argument to say that it wasn't the Taser that killed him, but his own body. Avoiding all criminal responsibility. Still being active police officers.
The bottom is a long way down, and the tragedy runs pretty deep on this one. They didn't even try to resolve this peacefully, they just went straight to over-use of force.
Absolutely every aspect of that is completely appalling and fubar.
Well, there's these, but that's mostly for non-citizens.
I'm not seriously asserting there is a specific law ... but, it seems like someone always manages to dredge up some obscure law which can be construed to support such things.
Bingo! That seems to be SOP nowadays. Most western countries seem to have a "this is illegal but we're doing it anyway" provision or two they use.
*sigh* Maybe I'm jut a cynic. But with the full-court press they're putting into security for this damned thing ... this guys is at the very least going to get detained and harassed for a while. As to longer-term consequences ... who knows.
And yet, none of them will ever be disciplined over it.
If you consider that a perk, go ahead.
But, if you lose, you have to suck the bull's balls before he has his way with you. It's a dangerous game of chicken, and a little too risky in my opinion.
Actually, the stuff you buy at McDonald's is Soylent Ham. We keep the good stuff domestic. ;-)
Dude, a stapler?? Are you kidding me? That will get you Tasered to death in Canada.
I wish I was joking. :(
I heard about this guy on the news yesterday.
While I don't know the details on what all is is alleged to have done -- he did set a goal to deliberately try to see if they would detect his behavior. He was planning on sending emails with words that would get him flagged by any hypothetical electronic searches they were running, and generally trying to look suspicious to see if they've noticed him. All in the name of seeing what kind of security they had in place, and how well it works.
He may well be completely innocent, a crack-pot, or just some misguided hacker who thinks it's his job to "take on the man". But, it's kind of like trying to get the bull to chase you -- you might not like it when he does. I'm pretty sure they've made trying to identify/breach their security procedures illegal.
The geek and hacker in me applauds such a balsy move. The pragmatist in me thinks he might have tried just a little too hard to get noticed. I mean, antagonizing an already skittish security apparatus ... not the smartest move you can make. :-P
I'm looking to actually hearing more facts as they become available.
Or, they've done what any sufficiently large organization does ... Don't leave money on the table. If you can collect from both piles, do it.
Intel wants to increase the market for all of their products. They're not going to let a little ideology about which is better stand in the way of generating money. There's a lot of hoopla surrounding mobile computing, and they don't want to get left behind.
Large companies frequently want to have it both ways. You 'or' isn't an 'xor' -- 'a or b' can actually be both.
Yeah, I think I figured that part out. Initially I was thinking you meant radiation directly led to KS.
And, yes, don't mangle your immune system is the lesson here boys and girls. :-P
What, the rapper?
No, seriously. I think I remember reading about this earlier this year in Scientific American or something ... only it was on a big lake in Russia and they worked during the winter when everything is frozen. Kind of cool, bleeding edge stuff.
I gather that the one in the Antarctic will be bigger, and give a view in a different direction than the Russian one.
Oh come on, how else is Edna Mode going to make all of those cool suits for The Incredibles?
No Capes!!
So, pretty much any NASCAR race, rodeo, or BBQ then? :-P
I kid, I kid. (Especially since people from Texas and Oklahoma are known to carry guns. ;-)
However, you'll notice that the second article you cite says that Kaposi's Sarcoma is a cancerous tumor due to a virus called Human herpesvirus 8 (HHV8). Most famously, it's associated with HIV/AIDS, but not exclusively.
So, no radiation there.
I'm not sure that anything in the wiki link supports the notion that radiation is the cause of that rather disturbing picture. There's more there to infer that he's HIV+ (or at least has an infection which also opportunistically infects HIV+ people since I don't want to speculate).
Now, it could be radiation suppressed his immune system, and he contracted HHV8. Or it's not KS, but is radiation related.
Of course, I'm not a doctor, lawyer, nuclear scientist, biologist, or expert in communicable diseases ... so take all I say with a grain of salt. I just recognized KS from the 80's when they were still trying to figure out WTF was killing people before they even had a name for HIV, and KS was one of the first things they identified.
Except, you forget that it's US politicians cramming these copyright laws down the rest of the world's collective throat, under the guise of protecting US interests. Heck, the *AA's help their equivalent group in various countries lobby the government to get your DMCA passed. So much so, that, they'll just re-use the document in another country.
TFA points out that Congress is acting under the belief that they are protecting US interests since more US property was being copied in foreign countries than the reverse. At least, according to data provided to them by the people who wanted the law.
Trust me, other countries aren't saying "oooh, we need a law like that". The US is saying in lightly veiled threats that if the other countries don't adopt the law, there might be some consequences. Sadly, the lobbying groups in the US are pushing very hard to use faulty 'reports' to get certain things deemed 'true' in the US, and then pushing the same crappy data abroad. Data they made up via arms length think-tanks which are basically paid shills to write position papers they need.
As long as your politicians give such weight to the testimony of the RIAA/MPAA, we're all getting shafted. But don't think for a minute that it's the rest of the world imposing these treaties and laws on the US. That's why the appeal court basically said that Congress could do this ... because they claim to be protecting US interests.
Like this.