Er, I should be more clear. The link in the parent post is also contained in the original Slashdot article; just wanted to bring it to the forefront....
> I was able to refinance to a 15 year > fixed mortgage for just $100 more > than my 30 year Variable
Well done! Yup, same here - was able to refinance our townhouse to a 15 yr fixed for about $150 more per month than our 30 year fixed. Sure is nice to see that principal decreasing... good times.
> you really have the audacity to > even compare this with Jabber
It wasn't intended to be a comparison with Jabber; instead, it was meant to be a note on our experiences with Jabber and how we ended up rolling a custom message router for our purposes.
> the implication that Jabber is > somehow inherently slow
Hm. It was too slow for our purposes - i.e., passing large numbers of large messages around to track a distributed agent system. I'm sure it's fast enough for most uses.
> The Jabber4R client library?
Nope, that's fine.
> The Jabber server?
Yup.
> Which server?
The Java one, I think.
> Or the architecture?
Dunno about that.
> critical remark
Hm, didn't mean to be critical... just sharing experience.
> a shameless plug for > your own unrelated product.
It's not really a product, per se... I mean, it's open source and free.
> What was your point, man?
To share an experience with the Jabber server and offer a note on our workaround.
> doing a design comparison between > Cougaar and Jabber?
They're two different things - COUGAAR is a distributed agent architecture, Jabber is a messaging protocol. I'm not sure a comparison is really in order...
...for an internal project with the Jabber4R wrapper.
Jabber ended up being too slow, though, so we built a more specialized message router in C++ - and open sourced it - to replace it.
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> AbstractAction
Hm.... I guess I don't understand. You're suggesting subclassing AbstractAction, right? That sounds fine to me; it's just that if I subclass it with an anonymous inner class, I will probably need to refactor that anonymous inner class to a nested class later. Of course, it'll still subclass AbstractAction.
I'm suprised anyone is still reading this thread:-)
Very nice! My wife and I have 4 kids (so far) and I've been doing government contracting for the past few years. Interesting work, not stressful, and I can program from home (Java, Ruby, etc) and help my wife tackle the little rascals.
I sympathize with his points, and it's not just LinuxToday. I received the July 2004 (odd enough, that) copy of Dr. Dobbs Journal and thought "wow, it's really getting to be pretty thick". Then I realized that the middle 40% of the magazine was a long Microsoft advertisement. After ripping that out, there wasn't much left - except for 4 different articles on Java-to-COM-and-ActiveX bridges. Crikey.
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Lots of good stuff there - interviews, speeches, conference presentations... good times.
...nicely. What's nice is that some of them are open source and written by savvy folks, i.e.:
RubLog - Dave Thomas
bloged - James Gosling
....i.e., right here. Looks sort of GForge-ish, although with frames and a custom theme and such-like...
Er, I should be more clear. The link in the parent post is also contained in the original Slashdot article; just wanted to bring it to the forefront....
...right here .
There's a bit in there about how Aesop's fables are more effective because he used animals rather than people for his characters... interesting stuff.
Note that I had to change the filenames slightly to get GForge to accept them... it didn't fancy the "+". Just in case anyone notices...
...is here.
FWIW, CVS 1.11.17 - the security release that happened this morning - is up there too.
> I was able to refinance to a 15 year
> fixed mortgage for just $100 more
> than my 30 year Variable
Well done! Yup, same here - was able to refinance our townhouse to a 15 yr fixed for about $150 more per month than our 30 year fixed. Sure is nice to see that principal decreasing... good times.
> while the content was critical, it
:-)
> was handled in a flame-free manner.
Yessir. Earlybird seems to be a savvy guy, so I wanted to kind of try to meet him in the middle on this one.
> I am shocked to see such a restrained discussion
Now back to Emacs vs vi, Windows vs Linux, etc
> your kids are really helping you
:-)
> with your tax bill!
Now I need to get them coding!
> After taxes, the difference between
> 60K and say 90K
Good point. Deductions make a big difference, though - we've got 4 kids (so far) and that really helps.
> Point is if you like being a
> SysAdmin...DO IT! You won't starve.
Well said.
> An experienced systems administrator
> can expect to earn a salary in the
> US$50,000 to mid- to upper-$60,000 range.
Hm, the _average_ in the SAGE survey in 2002 was $67,600. But I guess that's more or less in the ballpark.
> You were able to exchange one for the other
... being too slow"
Hm. We didn't exchange COUGAAR for Jabber... instead, we exchanged Jabber for our custom message router.
> instead of blatantly
> generalizing about "Jabber
I didn't feel it was a blatant generalization. I felt it was a reflection of our experiences.
> what you really meant is that one
> particular Jabber implementation
> was too slow for your needs.
Correct.
> And plus, CmdrTaco is a huge, raving nutsack!
Mod parent down.
> huge bumble ball with GPS locator
No no! You need to refer to that by its scientific name - simulated annealing. There, now you can increase your billing rate by $50 an hour!
Nice to see he remembers how he felt about LISP at first; gives me hope for my own LISP aspirations
> you really have the audacity to
> even compare this with Jabber
It wasn't intended to be a comparison with Jabber; instead, it was meant to be a note on our experiences with Jabber and how we ended up rolling a custom message router for our purposes.
> you are nothing but a troll
Hm. I wasn't trying to be one...
> the implication that Jabber is
> somehow inherently slow
Hm. It was too slow for our purposes - i.e., passing large numbers of large messages around to track a distributed agent system. I'm sure it's fast enough for most uses.
> The Jabber4R client library?
Nope, that's fine.
> The Jabber server?
Yup.
> Which server?
The Java one, I think.
> Or the architecture?
Dunno about that.
> critical remark
Hm, didn't mean to be critical... just sharing experience.
> a shameless plug for
> your own unrelated product.
It's not really a product, per se... I mean, it's open source and free.
> What was your point, man?
To share an experience with the Jabber server and offer a note on our workaround.
> doing a design comparison between
> Cougaar and Jabber?
They're two different things - COUGAAR is a distributed agent architecture, Jabber is a messaging protocol. I'm not sure a comparison is really in order...
...for an internal project with the Jabber4R wrapper.
Jabber ended up being too slow, though, so we built a more specialized message router in C++ - and open sourced it - to replace it.
> AbstractAction
:-)
Hm.... I guess I don't understand. You're suggesting subclassing AbstractAction, right? That sounds fine to me; it's just that if I subclass it with an anonymous inner class, I will probably need to refactor that anonymous inner class to a nested class later. Of course, it'll still subclass AbstractAction.
I'm suprised anyone is still reading this thread
> father of 5 children
Very nice! My wife and I have 4 kids (so far) and I've been doing government contracting for the past few years. Interesting work, not stressful, and I can program from home (Java, Ruby, etc) and help my wife tackle the little rascals.
> a JAVA PROGRAMMING theme.
Yup, mine too.
> a bunch of other articles
Yup, I saw those too.
> people like you just can't help
> but propagate lies?!
Yikes.
...here.
I sympathize with his points, and it's not just LinuxToday. I received the July 2004 (odd enough, that) copy of Dr. Dobbs Journal and thought "wow, it's really getting to be pretty thick". Then I realized that the middle 40% of the magazine was a long Microsoft advertisement. After ripping that out, there wasn't much left - except for 4 different articles on Java-to-COM-and-ActiveX bridges. Crikey.
> do you have an opinion about this?
Yup, some folks seem to prefer one or the other; I like Ruby but that may be just because I haven't needed to learn Python.
> how did you get started with Ruby?
My boss likes it, so he got me to write an hourly build thingy in it. It's been good times from then on...
Check out some nice screenshots of this book collection manager written using the Ruby/GTK bindings.