I get what you mean, really. Yes, if someone insists on calling backspace delete (something I have never done and never will do) it is confusing. Same goes with the Option and Command keys.
To answer your re-iterated point: it's not so much that they changed it, I think, but that they decided on a different name for things back in the time when there wasn't much of a standard to begin with.
I think we actually agree, but view the issue from a different angle.
Your point being...? The exact terminology of the key changes their function, or somehow users coming from Windows can't use backspace because it's not called backspace somewhere else?
I was just making sure that we were talking about the same keys. What the exact name for each key is according to Apple, Microsoft, the Linux community or some random bloke down the street really doesn't matter, does it?
Um, they don't? If I hit backspace (the one next to the +/=), it backspaces. When I hit delete (the one over the cursor keys) it forward-deletes, just like it does on other OSs. What's the problem?
(You may be talking about the wireless or laptop keyboards, which sometimes lack one of the two. Yes, I hate that too, but those are not normal keyboards, so I'm not counting them as "being different for the sake of being different".)
Also, it's not always the "wanting to be different" factor. The home/end key thing started quite a while ago, when there wasn't much unity in GUIs anyway (or not much GUIs at all, for that matter). Can't blame 'em for not adhering to some unwritten standard, when that standard wasn't there to begin with. =]
Not *wrong*, *different*. Should Apple suddenly alienate it's existing userbase to make sure the newcomers are comfy? No, of course not.
I see your point about beginning/end of line is more common than beginning/end of file, and I personally wouldn't *mind* the home and end key working like that, But then again, I also understand why it is the way it is, and I use the Apple key combos.
If I'm coding, half the time I'm in Vim anyway. =]
And even if it were possible to get all the root servers to agree on tossing the bad guys out, the bad guys would just switch to using IPs. I don't know if it's possible, given the "route around obstructions" nature of the net, to "remove" routes to the offending servers, but I doubt that. Besides, that'd have to happen in Russia.
On the other hand, given Putin's heroic track record, he just might personally find and snuff the spammers out. Wasn't there a spammer killed in Russia several years ago?
Yea extended function keys? Like printscreen? Nope. Home and End functionality...? Horrible.
I don't see how ANY seasoned non-Apple programmer could work with the functionality of home and end going to the end and start of documents instead of the current line..
Unless, of course, they decided to actually learn the way their machine works, instead of insisting on doing the things they do the way they did 'em on $otherplatform.
Home and End have always gone to the start and end of a document on the Mac. Changing that would alienate users. If you want to go to the start / end of a line, you use Command+left/right, or ctrl+a/e.
The closest thing to prtscrn would be Command+Shift+3, or Command+Shift+4 if you want to select an area to capture -- or just a single window by hitting space after the Command+Shift+4 part. You don't even have to open up another program to paste the resulting screenshot into, but if you *want* to capture to the clipboard, you can do so by holding Ctrl as well. Yes, very inflexible indeed.
Not being able to adapt to differences between OSs must be soul-crushing indeed. I never had any problems with it myself.
To disable memory paging in MacOS: 1. Open up Terminal 2. sudo vim/System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.dynamic_pager.plist 3. Change the OnDemand value to False 4. Save, quit, reboot
Of course, you might make your system a tad less stable, but it *is* an existant option. Thanks for playing.
(And didn't Linux have a "swapoff" command? Or was that just a handy alias or script in the distro I used many moons ago?)
Their new software is still based on their old software which was designed to be portable. It runs on PPC, Intel and Arm. Apple is not "sabotaging" OS X on PPC just to get you to buy a new shiny Mac.
Leopard runs mighty fine on the (PPC) mini and eMac here. Too bad I can't run Snow Leopard, even worse that I can't run an increasing amount of software -- recent Java, several emulators, stuff like that. Not stuff that makes my daily Mac life less pleasant, but stuff I'd just "like to have".
But I'm sure that until scrape together the money to get an Intel Mac, these two will serve me just fine.
In other words, at this moment it is unbearably slow. Some people do not live in some nebulous future where privacy is king, everything is free, and farts smell like roses. Some of us have to live in the now.
So someone has to be logged into the Desktop at the same time the command is issued (even if issued remotely) and I'm guessing that the account the remote user is logged into probably has to be the same account the desktop user is using. You're guessing right. If I log in as user x (no admin rights) locally, and login as user y through SSH (user y *has* admin rights), the exploit won't work. If I'm logged in as user Y locally it does. It also works if I'm logged in as user x locally and through SSH.
So yeah, the users will have to match. Slightly less safe than "always works over SSH", but if the attacker can login through SSH as you, you have more to worry about than just this exploit.
Mini:~ max$ ssh max@emac.local
Password:
Last login: Thu Jun 19 03:37:58 2008
eMac:~ max$ osascript -e 'tell app "ARDAgent" to do shell script "whoami"';
root
Come again? Even though the eMac is sitting right next to the mini, there's no VNC or other screen sharing running. Screen sharing IS switched on, though. If I switch it off, the exploit still works. Remote management is switched off the entire time.
Yes, booting linux takes time, I'm sure Ubuntu can come up with a splash screen without touching X. That's usplash, if I'm correct. Other distros can (and do) use it too.
f I am unwilling to purchase an XBox 360 for whatever reason, opting instead for a PS3, is that really my problem? No, if it's anyone's it's Microsoft's. No, actually, they save money by not selling an XBox.
-- The details are trivial and useless; The reasons, as always, purely human ones Did you just make up that sig for the occasion, or is this a coincidence and/or proving your point? =]
There is a phone out there that is both obtainable and sports a shell. Starts with "i", ends in "Phone".
For all the other peeps, there's either Putty for Symbian or midpSSH. Yeah, it's not a shell on your phone itself, but at least it allows you to connect to another machine.
So you get your dad to use Linux (not sure about that, but that's how I read it), but you have such objections to the openness of a part of a distro that he enjoys, that you've effectively scared him into a closed system? I'm a Machead, so I rejoice with the new family member, but really, did that achieve what you wanted it to achieve? The Finder isn't exactly FOSS either, you know.
Which means exactly jack shit. "googling" is done from the search box, as far as n00bs are concerned. Googling can be done using Live. Don't forget that you're talking about people who's OS is "Microsoft Word".
"If they think Yahoo is worth $46B to them, I'm inclined to believe it."
That means you're also inclined to believe that Vista is the greatest thing since sliced bread? Blindly believing Microsoft, or even just inclining to it, is not a smart thing to do, IMO.
Adobe Lightroom. It's not free, it's not OS, and it might be more than you're asking for, but nothing comes close to it. Think of iPhoto, add some tools for properly editing and ordering your snaps: fantastic colour correction, RAW support that equals Photoshop's, a crop/rotate tool that puts everything else out there to shame, tagging that works, full support of EXIF and IPTC, the ability to order by date, shoot, folder or whatever, non-destructive editing (modifications are saved as a list of changes to the original, into an XML file), exports to web (flash or HTML, both customizable) and so on and so forth. It's available for Macs and Windows.
Again, it might be overkill, but OTOH, most options are easy enough to use for non-professionals, so you mind end up actually using them -- improving your pictures.
FF3beta2 already has the new UI code for MacOS, it comes as a plugin/theme combo. It's totally sweet, and together with the speed increase / mem usage decrease, has made FF my default browser again.
All I'm missing at this moment is del.icio.us extension, which, AFAIK, isn't available yet for beta versions, but it'll come.
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OK, that's overdoing it. =]
I get what you mean, really. Yes, if someone insists on calling backspace delete (something I have never done and never will do) it is confusing. Same goes with the Option and Command keys.
To answer your re-iterated point: it's not so much that they changed it, I think, but that they decided on a different name for things back in the time when there wasn't much of a standard to begin with.
I think we actually agree, but view the issue from a different angle.
Your point being...? The exact terminology of the key changes their function, or somehow users coming from Windows can't use backspace because it's not called backspace somewhere else?
I was just making sure that we were talking about the same keys. What the exact name for each key is according to Apple, Microsoft, the Linux community or some random bloke down the street really doesn't matter, does it?
Um, they don't? If I hit backspace (the one next to the +/=), it backspaces. When I hit delete (the one over the cursor keys) it forward-deletes, just like it does on other OSs. What's the problem?
(You may be talking about the wireless or laptop keyboards, which sometimes lack one of the two. Yes, I hate that too, but those are not normal keyboards, so I'm not counting them as "being different for the sake of being different".)
Also, it's not always the "wanting to be different" factor. The home/end key thing started quite a while ago, when there wasn't much unity in GUIs anyway (or not much GUIs at all, for that matter). Can't blame 'em for not adhering to some unwritten standard, when that standard wasn't there to begin with. =]
Not *wrong*, *different*. Should Apple suddenly alienate it's existing userbase to make sure the newcomers are comfy? No, of course not.
I see your point about beginning/end of line is more common than beginning/end of file, and I personally wouldn't *mind* the home and end key working like that, But then again, I also understand why it is the way it is, and I use the Apple key combos.
If I'm coding, half the time I'm in Vim anyway. =]
And even if it were possible to get all the root servers to agree on tossing the bad guys out, the bad guys would just switch to using IPs. I don't know if it's possible, given the "route around obstructions" nature of the net, to "remove" routes to the offending servers, but I doubt that. Besides, that'd have to happen in Russia.
On the other hand, given Putin's heroic track record, he just might personally find and snuff the spammers out. Wasn't there a spammer killed in Russia several years ago?
Yea extended function keys? Like printscreen? Nope. Home and End functionality...? Horrible.
I don't see how ANY seasoned non-Apple programmer could work with the functionality of home and end going to the end and start of documents instead of the current line..
Unless, of course, they decided to actually learn the way their machine works, instead of insisting on doing the things they do the way they did 'em on $otherplatform.
Home and End have always gone to the start and end of a document on the Mac. Changing that would alienate users. If you want to go to the start / end of a line, you use Command+left/right, or ctrl+a/e.
The closest thing to prtscrn would be Command+Shift+3, or Command+Shift+4 if you want to select an area to capture -- or just a single window by hitting space after the Command+Shift+4 part. You don't even have to open up another program to paste the resulting screenshot into, but if you *want* to capture to the clipboard, you can do so by holding Ctrl as well. Yes, very inflexible indeed.
Not being able to adapt to differences between OSs must be soul-crushing indeed. I never had any problems with it myself.
To disable memory paging in MacOS: /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.dynamic_pager.plist
1. Open up Terminal
2. sudo vim
3. Change the OnDemand value to False
4. Save, quit, reboot
Of course, you might make your system a tad less stable, but it *is* an existant option. Thanks for playing.
(And didn't Linux have a "swapoff" command? Or was that just a handy alias or script in the distro I used many moons ago?)
In Soviet Russia, God hates YOU!
Their new software is still based on their old software which was designed to be portable. It runs on PPC, Intel and Arm. Apple is not "sabotaging" OS X on PPC just to get you to buy a new shiny Mac.
Leopard runs mighty fine on the (PPC) mini and eMac here. Too bad I can't run Snow Leopard, even worse that I can't run an increasing amount of software -- recent Java, several emulators, stuff like that. Not stuff that makes my daily Mac life less pleasant, but stuff I'd just "like to have".
But I'm sure that until scrape together the money to get an Intel Mac, these two will serve me just fine.
history - use it with grep if you forgot what you did
This might come in handy the next time I've been boozing again...
...coal power only makes up half our grid, and since both presidential candidates are promising cap & trade, that number is only going to drop.
I'll wait till I actually see those numbers drop. Believing a politician just like that is naive at best.
If more people set relays, no.
In other words, at this moment it is unbearably slow.
Some people do not live in some nebulous future where privacy is king, everything is free, and farts smell like roses. Some of us have to live in the now.
But don't let that keep you from using Tor.
So yeah, the users will have to match. Slightly less safe than "always works over SSH", but if the attacker can login through SSH as you, you have more to worry about than just this exploit.
Mini:~ max$ ssh max@emac.local
Come again? Even though the eMac is sitting right next to the mini, there's no VNC or other screen sharing running. Screen sharing IS switched on, though. If I switch it off, the exploit still works. Remote management is switched off the entire time.Password:
Last login: Thu Jun 19 03:37:58 2008
eMac:~ max$ osascript -e 'tell app "ARDAgent" to do shell script "whoami"';
root
That was my thought as well: "where was the failover system?" Someone obviously failed to imagine a beowulf cluster of... nah.
My second question is "why is someone who doesn't know the system inside out carrying out those upgrades, instead of some guy that didn't?".
Both are human errors.
The details are trivial and useless; The reasons, as always, purely human ones Did you just make up that sig for the occasion, or is this a coincidence and/or proving your point? =]
There is a phone out there that is both obtainable and sports a shell. Starts with "i", ends in "Phone".
For all the other peeps, there's either Putty for Symbian or midpSSH. Yeah, it's not a shell on your phone itself, but at least it allows you to connect to another machine.
Apart from that, if you shove $_GET into SQL queries without checking them, you're a complete retard.
So you get your dad to use Linux (not sure about that, but that's how I read it), but you have such objections to the openness of a part of a distro that he enjoys, that you've effectively scared him into a closed system? I'm a Machead, so I rejoice with the new family member, but really, did that achieve what you wanted it to achieve? The Finder isn't exactly FOSS either, you know.
(Sure, mod me down. You know I'm right)
Which means exactly jack shit. "googling" is done from the search box, as far as n00bs are concerned. Googling can be done using Live. Don't forget that you're talking about people who's OS is "Microsoft Word".
"If they think Yahoo is worth $46B to them, I'm inclined to believe it."
That means you're also inclined to believe that Vista is the greatest thing since sliced bread? Blindly believing Microsoft, or even just inclining to it, is not a smart thing to do, IMO.
Adobe Lightroom. It's not free, it's not OS, and it might be more than you're asking for, but nothing comes close to it. Think of iPhoto, add some tools for properly editing and ordering your snaps: fantastic colour correction, RAW support that equals Photoshop's, a crop/rotate tool that puts everything else out there to shame, tagging that works, full support of EXIF and IPTC, the ability to order by date, shoot, folder or whatever, non-destructive editing (modifications are saved as a list of changes to the original, into an XML file), exports to web (flash or HTML, both customizable) and so on and so forth. It's available for Macs and Windows.
Again, it might be overkill, but OTOH, most options are easy enough to use for non-professionals, so you mind end up actually using them -- improving your pictures.
I can't recommend it enough.
FF3beta2 already has the new UI code for MacOS, it comes as a plugin/theme combo. It's totally sweet, and together with the speed increase / mem usage decrease, has made FF my default browser again.
All I'm missing at this moment is del.icio.us extension, which, AFAIK, isn't available yet for beta versions, but it'll come.