No, YOU don't understand. This is one of the most clueless things I've ever seen written and it shows a real failure to grasp and accept reality, or the issues at hand.
Cyberspace is not meatspace, and should not be defined or limited by meatspace rules, because there are about 6 billion things you can do in cyberspace that are impractical or impossible in meatspace. Millions of copies of a chunk of data can be made and wiped out in a matter of seconds; this, I think, is the reality that nearly everyone - record execs, real-worlders, and geeks - still haven't come to fully realize. It works by different rules by default; therefore, it's absurd to force ethereal, ever-changing and infinitely malleable cyberspace to conform completely to meatspace rules.
There is no cyberspace. Acts are committed by "meatspace" people using "meatspace" equipment via "meatspace" ISPs. These "meatspace" people are connecting to servers in "meatspace". These people and servers are located in "meatspace" locations under the jurisdiction of meatspace "laws".
I used to work with an ex-defense procurement guy. Since we were both ex military (he army, me navy) one day we got talking about procument issues, and $500 hammers, and $200 toilet seats.
He was able to shed some light onto the pricing issues that made sense to me.
The seats were for a very limited run of production. This drives up cost by itself because the cost of tooling up and doing the run are amortized over the length of the run. Small runs cost much more than larger runs. Economies of scale.
The seats were for P3 aircraft. (P3's are prop driven aircraft used for ocean surveillance, search & rescue, and sub-hunting - the big boom on the tail is the MAD - Magnetic Anomaly Detector used to locate submerged metal objects. P3's are long duration aircraft meant to go out on patrol - I did a fair amount of loose control of P3's) There were all kinds of issues with weight, flammability, durability, etc for aicraft safety. Additionally there were MIL-SPEC requirements to adhere to since it was a _military_ aircraft.
Add all this up and you start to get some unreasonable costs for a lot of reasons that by themselves and in abstract probably made sense.
RADAR's don't detect raindrops per se. The reflections that humidity bearing clouds give back on the scope is pretty distinctive, and all RADARs (SPS-10, SPA-40, misc fire control RADARs) I've used will do that.
And there's a huge difference between DETECTING raindrops and TRACKING raindrops. I HIGHLY doubt even a SPY-1x will TRACK raindrops.
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How do you propose such a decentralized media as usenet could even be regulated?
They're not regulating the media, they're regulating the individuals who post.
Contrary to geek-belief, when you're online you're not IN cyberspace. You're sitting at your terminal wherever you're at. The laws of the locale you're in apply without any doubt.
Anyone who thinks that Usenet (or any part of the Internet) exists outside of the law, or geographical boundaries is seriously deluded.
Well...let me make an analogy. There are people that say "I don't care where my hamburgers come from as long as they taste good." They're the people who are primarily responsible for the destruction of rain forests. There are people who say "I don't care where my tennis shoes come from as long as they fit well." They're the people who allow shoe manufacturers to get away with child labor atrocities in the pacific rim.
This is why you don't find any enslaved children performaing as GPL programmers in rainforests who subsist on hamburgers.
As understood it, even the US military uses metric for their systems.
Sorry - when I was in the Navy (87-91) we were still using nautical miles and knots. And yes the DDT's displayed information in knots, volumes were measured in gallons, etc. etc.
It's not a matter of more important vs less important. We have a large number of employees who have access to workstations but have no real need for office applications.
This would let us better spend our money. Remember, IT is overhead in a typical company, not a profit center.
I definately don't agree that just because it's not M$Office compliant that it's unusable, in fact i think that's what makes it so great - it's by time we started a new standard for word processing. No more storage of massive binary data, use something editable by an ASCII editer, like LaTeX, sure it takes up more space, but that isn't as much an issue as it once was.
It's not unusable at all - it's just not as good (not a crime or a putdown) as MS Office yet. My real fear is that Sun will drop the ball on continuing to improve it.
Ever since I installed it my Win98 box has suddenly become unstable (used to be 2-3 days between reboots, now I'm getting BAD crashes at least once a day. The only thing I've changed is adding Star Office and Agent 1.6. I'm hoping it's a coincidence. Star Office doesn't seem to handle the page formatting stuff as well as MS Office, and the one-master-app thing is a little different.
I'm having a few beta tester type people test it out, and no complaints yet - they like it but it's an adjustment. When I get back in I'm going to have my department as a whole try it out. I wish the various apps were individually runable without loading the star desktop thing. That is one thing I find truly annoying.
Is there someplace we can email them with suggestions/requests?
I'm looking VERY hopefully to cut the number of future licenses I'm purchasing of MS Office (We have about 80 at the moment) by using Star Office.
After a couple of days of using it to write the same documentation that I do in Word, it's just not there yet. The best I can hope for, for now is that I can use Star Office for the non-essential users, and continue to use MS Office for the users who need the power.
I was excited at first, but I'm starting to see why the analysts say this is not a threat to MS Office (sigh).
I've got two Origin 2000's (4x CPU, 4GB RAM, 100GB Disk, OC12 LAN connection), and an O2 Workstation (1600x1024 display, 250MHz, 320MB RAM) for the next 3 weeks for our OC-12 testing.
These things are _incredible_. The ease of use blows Linux away and the performance is unreal. I was able to do sustained streams of 49-50 Megabytes per second (_not_ megabits) between the two SGI's over the OC-12 connection. I can't imagine being able to do that with any of my Intel boxen.
The ease of use management wise on the SGI's is _unreal_. Irix very painlessly detected all the SCSI devices I attached, has a point and click logical volume manager, and the journalling filesystem _is_ hardy. Below the icing, the system is similar enough to linux that it's almost like coming home again. Just a wee bit faster.
Using computers and the net doesn't make you any more intelligent unfortunately. Someone who spends 12 hours a day in IRC and Quake isn't someone I'd rate higher than a TLC/History Channel junkie.
The tool makes no difference. It's what you use it for.
I used them in a previous life, nice controllers, and they abstract RAID 0,1,3,5,0+1 so that you don't have to sweat the kernel support thing. It's all done in hardware.
CPU's aren't exposed to heat any more than the astronauts themselves are.
The heat generated by atmospheric friction during a Mach 25 reentry would slag ANY CPU if it were explosed to it.
Older CPU's are used because the circuits are larger and less susceptible to damage by cosmic rays. As the build sizes go down (.25.18 microns) the CPU's are more fragile and susceptible to all kinds of failures.
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No, YOU don't understand. This is one of the most clueless things I've ever seen written and it shows a real failure to grasp and accept reality, or the issues at hand.
Cyberspace is not meatspace, and should not be defined or limited by meatspace rules, because there are about 6 billion things you can do in cyberspace that are impractical or impossible in meatspace. Millions of copies of a chunk of data can be made and wiped out in a matter of seconds; this, I think, is the reality that nearly everyone - record execs, real-worlders, and geeks - still haven't come to fully realize. It works by different rules by default; therefore, it's absurd to force ethereal, ever-changing and infinitely malleable cyberspace to conform completely to meatspace rules.
There is no cyberspace. Acts are committed by "meatspace" people using "meatspace" equipment via "meatspace" ISPs. These "meatspace" people are connecting to servers in "meatspace". These people and servers are located in "meatspace" locations under the jurisdiction of meatspace "laws".
There is no cyberspace.
I used to work with an ex-defense procurement guy. Since we were both ex military (he army, me navy) one day we got talking about procument issues, and $500 hammers, and $200 toilet seats.
He was able to shed some light onto the pricing issues that made sense to me.
The seats were for a very limited run of production. This drives up cost by itself because the cost of tooling up and doing the run are amortized over the length of the run. Small runs cost much more than larger runs. Economies of scale.
The seats were for P3 aircraft. (P3's are prop driven aircraft used for ocean surveillance, search & rescue, and sub-hunting - the big boom on the tail is the MAD - Magnetic Anomaly Detector used to locate submerged metal objects. P3's are long duration aircraft meant to go out on patrol - I did a fair amount of loose control of P3's) There were all kinds of issues with weight, flammability, durability, etc for aicraft safety. Additionally there were MIL-SPEC requirements to adhere to since it was a _military_ aircraft.
Add all this up and you start to get some unreasonable costs for a lot of reasons that by themselves and in abstract probably made sense.
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RADAR's don't detect raindrops per se. The reflections that humidity bearing clouds give back on the scope is pretty distinctive, and all RADARs (SPS-10, SPA-40, misc fire control RADARs) I've used will do that.
And there's a huge difference between DETECTING raindrops and TRACKING raindrops. I HIGHLY doubt even a SPY-1x will TRACK raindrops.
How do you propose such a decentralized media as usenet could even be regulated?
They're not regulating the media, they're regulating the individuals who post.
Contrary to geek-belief, when you're online you're not IN cyberspace. You're sitting at your terminal wherever you're at. The laws of the locale you're in apply without any doubt.
Anyone who thinks that Usenet (or any part of the Internet) exists outside of the law, or geographical boundaries is seriously deluded.
C'mon this does NOT take brains to understand.
You don't need to be super rich. It helps to be doing IT work professionially. It's just one more business expense...
I've got a T1 (Frame Relay) at work, and Enhanced DSL at home (5 IP's, 128Kbps up, 1.5Mbps down)
I'm so glad our government is looking out for us :)
Don't you mean:
I'm so glad our government is out looking for us!
:)
There are people who say "I don't care where my tennis shoes come from as long as they fit well." They're the people who allow shoe manufacturers to get away with child labor atrocities in the pacific rim.
This is why you don't find any enslaved children performaing as GPL programmers in rainforests who subsist on hamburgers.
(yawn)
BSD Forever
Noway - Forem predated WWIV.
Gotta love hitting break - dropping to the CLI, modifying code and variables and typing...
resume
hehehe
Forem :)
As understood it, even the US military uses metric for their systems.
Sorry - when I was in the Navy (87-91) we were still using nautical miles and knots. And yes the DDT's displayed information in knots, volumes were measured in gallons, etc. etc.
It's not a matter of more important vs less important. We have a large number of employees who have access to workstations but have no real need for office applications.
This would let us better spend our money. Remember, IT is overhead in a typical company, not a profit center.
Since we're the IT department, we inflict everything except the engineering apps on us for beta testing prior to rolling ANYTHING out to an end-user.
I'd worry more about companies that don't do a little inhouse testing before rolling something out.
As a result our user's office workstations are VERY stable
I definately don't agree that just because it's not M$Office compliant that it's unusable, in fact i think that's what makes it so great - it's by time we started a new standard for word processing. No more storage of massive binary data, use something editable by an ASCII editer, like LaTeX, sure it takes up more space, but that isn't as much an issue as it once was.
It's not unusable at all - it's just not as good (not a crime or a putdown) as MS Office yet. My real fear is that Sun will drop the ball on continuing to improve it.
Ever since I installed it my Win98 box has suddenly become unstable (used to be 2-3 days between reboots, now I'm getting BAD crashes at least once a day. The only thing I've changed is adding Star Office and Agent 1.6. I'm hoping it's a coincidence. Star Office doesn't seem to handle the page formatting stuff as well as MS Office, and the one-master-app thing is a little different.
I'm having a few beta tester type people test it out, and no complaints yet - they like it but it's an adjustment. When I get back in I'm going to have my department as a whole try it out. I wish the various apps were individually runable without loading the star desktop thing. That is one thing I find truly annoying.
Is there someplace we can email them with suggestions/requests?
I'm looking VERY hopefully to cut the number of future licenses I'm purchasing of MS Office (We have about 80 at the moment) by using Star Office.
After a couple of days of using it to write the same documentation that I do in Word, it's just not there yet. The best I can hope for, for now is that I can use Star Office for the non-essential users, and continue to use MS Office for the users who need the power.
I was excited at first, but I'm starting to see why the analysts say this is not a threat to MS Office (sigh).
I'm down, but I'm not out on this one...
I've got two Origin 2000's (4x CPU, 4GB RAM, 100GB Disk, OC12 LAN connection), and an O2 Workstation (1600x1024 display, 250MHz, 320MB RAM) for the next 3 weeks for our OC-12 testing.
These things are _incredible_. The ease of use blows Linux away and the performance is unreal. I was able to do sustained streams of 49-50 Megabytes per second (_not_ megabits) between the two SGI's over the OC-12 connection. I can't imagine being able to do that with any of my Intel boxen.
The ease of use management wise on the SGI's is _unreal_. Irix very painlessly detected all the SCSI devices I attached, has a point and click logical volume manager, and the journalling filesystem _is_ hardy. Below the icing, the system is similar enough to linux that it's almost like coming home again. Just a wee bit faster.
Evidently you've spent no time on IRC.
Using computers and the net doesn't make you any more intelligent unfortunately. Someone who spends 12 hours a day in IRC and Quake isn't someone I'd rate higher than a TLC/History Channel junkie.
The tool makes no difference. It's what you use it for.
nononono
It's the thing you watch DVD's on
:)
I watch an hour or so a week - usually the X-Files or to surf around before I get bored and do something else.
Yah - I'm getting ready to put in a job req for a web/unix admin.
All my guys are Novell with some NT knowledge. They're slowly working on their unix skills but it takes time.
Check out Infortrend.
www.infortrend.com
I used them in a previous life, nice controllers, and they abstract RAID 0,1,3,5,0+1 so that you don't have to sweat the kernel support thing. It's all done in hardware.
The average slashdotter is not the target market.
IT folks would be the target market
What's REALLY fun is when 12 volts gets put into one and you see a jet of flame coming out of your 200MHz Pentium Pro:)
(several years ago - Bad motherboard/power connection)
Redhat includes KDE now. They didn't when originally.
After trying out Mandrake I liked it enough to switch. My old boxes are still Redhat 5.2..
CPU's aren't exposed to heat any more than the astronauts themselves are.
.18 microns) the CPU's are more fragile and susceptible to all kinds of failures.
The heat generated by atmospheric friction during a Mach 25 reentry would slag ANY CPU if it were explosed to it.
Older CPU's are used because the circuits are larger and less susceptible to damage by cosmic rays. As the build sizes go down (.25