No better. Metal gets corroded by water (worse yet: saline water), melted by fire, cracked by cold etc.
Besides rock, which has proven pretty good throughout the ages, there's one thing that could hold up the promise, and that's mineral paper. (Aka, asbestos paper.)
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Quite frankly, I don't think it's anything worth saving. If you think Mac zealots (which I am) are anal retentive about keeping their OS and their Macs, remember just one thing: HyperCard users are twice that, to the power of 2.
HyperCard is a black and white product. The color support was added as a sort of plug-in (XCMDs and XFNCs) and merely complicates colorizing. Multimedia support (QuickTime) is another suck hacky addition that doesn't really well mesh with the original intent of HyperCard.
History lesson: HyperCard, imagined and brought to life on spare time because of lack of interest of the then managment, is the child of O Grand Master Bill Atkinson, father of the Mac's original (B&W) QuickDraw code, whom to which we owe much of Apple's graphical prowesses. HyperCard is a meta card system which you can script using a near-english dialect called HyperTalk. This hypertalk is the ancestor of AppleScript. both share alot of the same architechture design, and even dialect. In fact, HyperCard evolved (around version 2 or 2.2) in a way that you could script using either or both HyperTalk and AppleScript in the same or across "stacks" (aka, HyperCard "applications").
A number of clones started appearing around that time (more than 10 years ago) in order to solve the lack of color and multimedia support. SuperCard, the most notable one, is still around today and is still maintained.
Note to HyperCard zealots: use SuperCard if you can't think of migrate to anything else. SuperCard DOES import HyperCard, and is compatible with the same XFNCs and XCMDs you (still) use today.
The are other alternatives for this today. Although you can't import a HyperCard stak or convert it easilly, some AppleScript-based similar products exist today, and are, quite frankly, much better than HyperCard ever was. One of them, for being a user of it (we use it as a build machine controler software) is called FaceSpawn. Think of it as Visual Basic, but AppleScript based and therefore able to communicate and exchange data with ANY AppleScript-ready application, including most of the mac OS system software--both 9 and X.
There's one comment (very personal) which I'd make about this issue. Mac OS has evolved a LOT since HyperCard (and Bill Atkinson original involvement). It's time HyperCard users evolve too.
Lastly, and since I haven't had a chance to do it before and that I'm publicly speaking about him, I'd like to express my gratitude and sincere thanks to Bill Atkinson for both QuickDraw (and it's regions!) and HyperCard. Thanks for the memories.
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Get yourself an iMac (or better) Mac system (on loan from a friend, or maybe even your local Apple rep--they love this sort of things) and load it with iDVD, some movie clips, stills and sounds. With the built-in library, you'll have plenty material to show them where DVD authoring is going to: the best multimedia support.
Not only can they be viewed on computers, but any home DVD player to. THAT's impressive.
Of course, I'm biased being a Mac propeller head; this could be don on hardware other than Macs, but Macs and iDVD are readily accessible.
Bring a couple of off-the-shelf DVDs to complement what can be done (without having yourself to build something very convincing). The Cell is a nicelly-put DVD, and so is Aliens (widescreen platinum edition).
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GNUstep is aiming to create a NeXTSTEP 3.3-like enviroment.
Actually, it's more like an OPENSTEP environement. Being based on the OpenStep public API, which has it's roots in NeXTSTEP.
Please note that capitalization is important.
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big companys [...] back EVERYTHING up on paper somewhere
Dont be so sure. I remember one of Apple's excuses for the delay in Mac OS 7(.?) was the last californian earthquake, blaming the absence of a backup on some woman clerk working there at the time.
Though, I dont recall anyone biting into it.
To answer the original question, though, I dont think that humanity could loose trace of any OS out there, schematic diagrams of hardware etc. Surely enough, with the internet soon reaching to Mars (see today's story), there's bound to be illegal copies around the world on file sharing systems like HotLne, GNUtella and others.
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I'm a contributor to a medieval enthusiast journal in the province of Quebec. It's a non-profit journal for historic and recreation information and activities.
We dont have a large audience, but we do manage to print and distribute 1000 copies of this journal, four times a year.
We always put extracts of past issues on the web. (Pages in french.)
After a brief survey of our readers, we came to the conclusion that the print edition would remain, and that only some extract would be posted on the web. It turns out that most of them prefer to have a hard copy to read just about anywhere.
They DO, however, want more info on the web, such as statistics of the issues, complete index etc.
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I was shocked to learn Canada did exactly the same thing for native americans in the west coast, a couple of days ago in a TV documentary about a wood carver in BC.
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Mny companies' only goal is to patent "technologies" and ideas. Since you are not required to show a working prototype for patent applications, this can get easy. You then wait for the sucker who'll actually implement the thing and sue them.
Obviously, the key is to patent you stuff using the vaguest-possible to make it hard to find a pertinent patent when you apply for one yourself (like a bait).
Although this may not be the case for RAMBUS (aka, patent-baiting), they do want to take advantage of legal actions, since this can bring them money, since royalties were not coming in anyways.
"Business as usual" they say.
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What the article doesn't mention is that is father is called up on the witness bench, and his name has come up in the list of acusee, as he is, according to the procecutor, probably involved in the DDoS attack.
MafiaBoy's father allegidly gave him information on the technicalities of such an attack.
Local newspapers have reported at some point during the year that this is what's going to be used as a defense. The father allegedly knew how to do such an attack, for having read about it, and discussed it to his son, which then tried it. The father did not know the extent of the attack, not being very technical himself, hence the defense relying on the fact that MafiaBoy did not know either that this would cause such a severe attack.
Another newspaper had reported that the kid itself was "frame through ignorance" by his friends to do th3e attack itself.
Both newspapers were full of inaccuracies, of course, such as for the usage of the word "hacker", as usual.
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"I'm going cheap and dumb," she told The Register, revealing: "In monetary terms, I want to be the next Bill Gates."
Yeah, Bill Gates is cheap and dumb.
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It's a moderatly good read from an Asimov original idea, presented by him but written by a pletora of other sci-fi writers such as Stephen Leigh and William F. Wu.
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Embossed metal would be good.
No better. Metal gets corroded by water (worse yet: saline water), melted by fire, cracked by cold etc.
Besides rock, which has proven pretty good throughout the ages, there's one thing that could hold up the promise, and that's mineral paper. (Aka, asbestos paper.)
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That's what distinguishes the men from the Canadians.
I think us canadians don't need your type of men.
Besides, we have Jean Chrétien. No diplomat would ever want to face off our premier's wife with her deadly frying pan.
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Quite frankly, I don't think it's anything worth saving. If you think Mac zealots (which I am) are anal retentive about keeping their OS and their Macs, remember just one thing: HyperCard users are twice that, to the power of 2.
HyperCard is a black and white product. The color support was added as a sort of plug-in (XCMDs and XFNCs) and merely complicates colorizing. Multimedia support (QuickTime) is another suck hacky addition that doesn't really well mesh with the original intent of HyperCard.
History lesson: HyperCard, imagined and brought to life on spare time because of lack of interest of the then managment, is the child of O Grand Master Bill Atkinson, father of the Mac's original (B&W) QuickDraw code, whom to which we owe much of Apple's graphical prowesses. HyperCard is a meta card system which you can script using a near-english dialect called HyperTalk. This hypertalk is the ancestor of AppleScript. both share alot of the same architechture design, and even dialect. In fact, HyperCard evolved (around version 2 or 2.2) in a way that you could script using either or both HyperTalk and AppleScript in the same or across "stacks" (aka, HyperCard "applications").
A number of clones started appearing around that time (more than 10 years ago) in order to solve the lack of color and multimedia support. SuperCard, the most notable one, is still around today and is still maintained.
Note to HyperCard zealots: use SuperCard if you can't think of migrate to anything else. SuperCard DOES import HyperCard, and is compatible with the same XFNCs and XCMDs you (still) use today.
The are other alternatives for this today. Although you can't import a HyperCard stak or convert it easilly, some AppleScript-based similar products exist today, and are, quite frankly, much better than HyperCard ever was. One of them, for being a user of it (we use it as a build machine controler software) is called FaceSpawn. Think of it as Visual Basic, but AppleScript based and therefore able to communicate and exchange data with ANY AppleScript-ready application, including most of the mac OS system software--both 9 and X.
There's one comment (very personal) which I'd make about this issue. Mac OS has evolved a LOT since HyperCard (and Bill Atkinson original involvement). It's time HyperCard users evolve too.
Lastly, and since I haven't had a chance to do it before and that I'm publicly speaking about him, I'd like to express my gratitude and sincere thanks to Bill Atkinson for both QuickDraw (and it's regions!) and HyperCard. Thanks for the memories.
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Impress your students with a hands-on demo.
Get yourself an iMac (or better) Mac system (on loan from a friend, or maybe even your local Apple rep--they love this sort of things) and load it with iDVD, some movie clips, stills and sounds. With the built-in library, you'll have plenty material to show them where DVD authoring is going to: the best multimedia support.
Not only can they be viewed on computers, but any home DVD player to. THAT's impressive.
Of course, I'm biased being a Mac propeller head; this could be don on hardware other than Macs, but Macs and iDVD are readily accessible.
Bring a couple of off-the-shelf DVDs to complement what can be done (without having yourself to build something very convincing). The Cell is a nicelly-put DVD, and so is Aliens (widescreen platinum edition).
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GNUstep is aiming to create a NeXTSTEP 3.3-like enviroment.
Actually, it's more like an OPENSTEP environement. Being based on the OpenStep public API, which has it's roots in NeXTSTEP.
Please note that capitalization is important.
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Quite frankly, a lot of us would ratter not know him.
Think of him as Canada's Al Gore, but on acids.
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This is indeed intriguing; what unit will replace the familiar megahertz?
Given the absence of a clock, Id go for Inhertzia.
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Guess where that 950millions really went to...
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big companys [...] back EVERYTHING up on paper somewhere
Dont be so sure. I remember one of Apple's excuses for the delay in Mac OS 7(.?) was the last californian earthquake, blaming the absence of a backup on some woman clerk working there at the time.
Though, I dont recall anyone biting into it.
To answer the original question, though, I dont think that humanity could loose trace of any OS out there, schematic diagrams of hardware etc. Surely enough, with the internet soon reaching to Mars (see today's story), there's bound to be illegal copies around the world on file sharing systems like HotLne, GNUtella and others.
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I'm a contributor to a medieval enthusiast journal in the province of Quebec. It's a non-profit journal for historic and recreation information and activities.
We dont have a large audience, but we do manage to print and distribute 1000 copies of this journal, four times a year.
We always put extracts of past issues on the web. (Pages in french.)
After a brief survey of our readers, we came to the conclusion that the print edition would remain, and that only some extract would be posted on the web. It turns out that most of them prefer to have a hard copy to read just about anywhere.
They DO, however, want more info on the web, such as statistics of the issues, complete index etc.
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if you ignore the fact that the first NeXT systems were monochrome.
The OS wasn't monochrome. It's the video hardware that was greyscale (the original was 4-bit gray, then 8-bit).
My NeXT Cube sports a NeXT Dimension board which makes it 32-bit color (w/ alpha channel), under OPENSTEP 4.2, of course.
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Yeah well, thats Islam for you, a religion still stuck in the middle ages.
...er... christianity is stucked in the antique age ... is it not?
' far as I know, the only "modern" religion is Pokemon.
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I was shocked to learn Canada did exactly the same thing for native americans in the west coast, a couple of days ago in a TV documentary about a wood carver in BC.
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2001-03-19 06:20:00
Ad the only reason I picked this date is that it's my sister's b-day.
Since her mood has a tendency of crashing down... I thought... maybe...
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why keep Darwin around after it served it's purpose?
Duh! You dont know what you're talking about.
Darwin is the core of Mac OS X. It has not yet served it's purpose. I'ts futur is to start on march 24th.
Inform yourself, THEN criticize.
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I has become a business to sue.
Mny companies' only goal is to patent "technologies" and ideas. Since you are not required to show a working prototype for patent applications, this can get easy. You then wait for the sucker who'll actually implement the thing and sue them.
Obviously, the key is to patent you stuff using the vaguest-possible to make it hard to find a pertinent patent when you apply for one yourself (like a bait).
Although this may not be the case for RAMBUS (aka, patent-baiting), they do want to take advantage of legal actions, since this can bring them money, since royalties were not coming in anyways.
"Business as usual" they say.
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You're confusing Free Speech and Free Penguin.
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What the article doesn't mention is that is father is called up on the witness bench, and his name has come up in the list of acusee, as he is, according to the procecutor, probably involved in the DDoS attack.
MafiaBoy's father allegidly gave him information on the technicalities of such an attack.
Local newspapers have reported at some point during the year that this is what's going to be used as a defense. The father allegedly knew how to do such an attack, for having read about it, and discussed it to his son, which then tried it. The father did not know the extent of the attack, not being very technical himself, hence the defense relying on the fact that MafiaBoy did not know either that this would cause such a severe attack.
Another newspaper had reported that the kid itself was "frame through ignorance" by his friends to do th3e attack itself.
Both newspapers were full of inaccuracies, of course, such as for the usage of the word "hacker", as usual.
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No one gets hurt 'cause they're ENGINEERS.
Yeah, and Windows wont crash because they're SOFTWARE DEVELOPERS!
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... script kiddies;
Young, stupid, and access to a database of scripts on their BITBOXES.
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Tog's comment on Aqua is everything but unbiased. This guy just cvan't break with his own past.
As for your
The last thing Aqua is is Usable.
Have you ever used it? I have, now for 4 months, and I find it quite usable.
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if you put enough monkeys in a room with enough typewriters, you will get Shakespear's sonnets. Life is out there kids.
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Are you implying that we're the result of monkey work? This would explain a lot of things
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These compounds are building material of God's "body" witch we haven't been able to see earlier
Or maybe more like dandruff.
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From the article:
"I'm going cheap and dumb," she told The Register, revealing: "In monetary terms, I want to be the next Bill Gates."
Yeah, Bill Gates is cheap and dumb.
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This is straight out of Asimov's Robot City.
It's a moderatly good read from an Asimov original idea, presented by him but written by a pletora of other sci-fi writers such as Stephen Leigh and William F. Wu.
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