Re:An Old Chestnut - Really old
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Sorry, I forgot the URL that I found for the speech.
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Re:An Old Chestnut - Really old
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Widespread but only partial news coverage was given recently to a remarkable editorial broadcast from Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television commentator.
As a friend of mine responded when this showed up on a mailing list we're both on: Recently?!?!?
This article was originally written and broadcast by Gordon Sinclair on CFRB, Toronto, Ontario, on JUNE 5, 1973 - over 28 years ago.
Besides the fact that I disagree with quite a lot of it, it's a bit out of date.
On reflection, I have to admit that anonymous posting by an editor at a news site was wrong. I stopped months ago and vow to LT readers that I will never engage in the practice again. It is too important you can trust what you read here.
As if we should believe him? I'm well aware of the current state of today's media. Journalistic integrity is a word that most media reporters and editors seem to have forgotten.
However, this is totally out of line, even by today's standards. Someone looking at his apology would think that he had just committed minor infractions. No, he was busily posting nastygrams about competitors and rivals.
If you'll take another look, you'll notice that comment is in italics. That means that it was part of the submitter's comment, not a statement made by Michael.
I've actually been hearing this statement made over and over again, but I have to disagree. Is it really fair to want to keep a citizen from another country in lock-up just to prove that the DMCA is bogus? Sklyarov didn't volunteer for this. He has a family and a home, that I'm rather certain he wants to go back to.
If we try and take away Sklyarov's freedom to make a point, how are we better than Adobe and the Feds? Isn't that what they did?
Don't make an unwilling martyr out of Sklyarov. Let him go home!
The U.S. needs to take care of their own problems.
The Taliban have destroyed ancient religious monuments, returned women to servitude, enforced the islamic laws and persecuted non islams out of the country and proceded to commit religious genocide and we should be surprised they have banned the internet ?
Thank you for bringing up another one of the things about Afghanistan that frightens me. How is it that so many people didn't consider it a big deal when the Taliban began destroying ancient religious monuments? When they announced that they would be requiring minority religions to display an identification of their faith? When all the other things that have been going on have happened? Yes, there was an uproar, but it didn't seem like nearly enough.
These people have proven themselves to be diligent, determined and successful at defeating others against all odds. They show all the signs of proceeding past their current level of extremism to absolute genocide. They still have tons of expensive weapons, left over from the Afghan war and also new ones supplied by terrorists and even (possibly) other governments. The level of terror that they inflict on their own people continues to grow and grow.
If they finally defeat the United Front and other so-called rebels in the north, who says they're going to stop at their own borders? Yes, it would be insane to attack in that heavily armed area of the world, but the Taliban has shown itself to not behave sanely. There's many countries around them full of people that to them are heretics. Talk about a chance for a holy war!
This isn't like the problems in the Balkans or anywhere else that has had religious conflicts recently (I'm not dismissing these events either). It's not "just" two religions or two ethnic groups fighting. It's one group, fighting for systematic destruction of everything it disagrees with. *cough* Sound familiar at all to anyone? How about exterior religious identification? Hmm?
I'm reminded of this quote:
First they came for the Communists, and I didn't speak up, because I wasn't a Communist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up, because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up, because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for me,and by that time there was no one left to speak up for me.
- Rev. Martin Niemoller, 1945
I know that people probably think I'm insane to compare the Taliban to the Nazis, but you know what? Germany was considered a laughable threat too at one time. They'd been destroyed by WWI, they were never going to rise again.
It just seems to me that not enough people (or countries) care about what's happening in Afghanistan. It's the country's issue, let them deal with that. The problem with that is that it could very easily become our issue.
The U.S. is still sending them money. Now, of course, it's cloaked as "humanitarian aid". You know what the latest "humanitarian aid" was a reward for? Getting rid of the opium trade. To the tune of about $45 million or so (I don't remember the exact figure, atm) late this past spring. Admittedly, not a huge amount to most "developed" countries, but probably quite a lot to the leaders of the Taliban.
If you have any idea of what's going on over there, you know how much they've terrorized and punished the farmers to scare them into stopping opium farming. So, essentially, the U.S. is rewarding them for torturing their people.
How lovely. Apparently, it's more important to fight the war on drugs, than it is to fight rights abuses and total opression.
The Little Mermaid is old, even if not as old as the Arabian story of Aladdin. Hans Christian Anderson published it in 1836. It's went on to become part of the collective unconsciousness, so a lot of people don't realize where it came from.
Yes, but if this is a sign of things to come and Mozilla forces Netscape's moneymaker out of some of the good niches it has left (especially non-Windows platforms), what is Netscape's attitude about open source going to become?
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'crow
As a friend of mine responded when this showed up on a mailing list we're both on: Recently?!?!?
This article was originally written and broadcast by Gordon Sinclair on CFRB, Toronto, Ontario, on JUNE 5, 1973 - over 28 years ago.
Besides the fact that I disagree with quite a lot of it, it's a bit out of date.
'crow
I don't see any meat or point in either this one or the previous one. Hello? If it's a feature, shouldn't it actually say something?
'crow, curious and in a bad mood anyways
As if we should believe him? I'm well aware of the current state of today's media. Journalistic integrity is a word that most media reporters and editors seem to have forgotten.
However, this is totally out of line, even by today's standards. Someone looking at his apology would think that he had just committed minor infractions. No, he was busily posting nastygrams about competitors and rivals.
He should just resign and get the heck out.
'crow
If you'll take another look, you'll notice that comment is in italics. That means that it was part of the submitter's comment, not a statement made by Michael.
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-Thomas Jefferson
Yeah, but how about innocent Russians? That quote is totally inappropriate in this situation.
'crow
If we try and take away Sklyarov's freedom to make a point, how are we better than Adobe and the Feds? Isn't that what they did?
Don't make an unwilling martyr out of Sklyarov. Let him go home!
The U.S. needs to take care of their own problems.
'crow
A good point. If we try and take away Sklyarov's freedom to make a point, how are we better than Adobe? Isn't that what they did?
Thank you for bringing up another one of the things about Afghanistan that frightens me. How is it that so many people didn't consider it a big deal when the Taliban began destroying ancient religious monuments? When they announced that they would be requiring minority religions to display an identification of their faith? When all the other things that have been going on have happened? Yes, there was an uproar, but it didn't seem like nearly enough.
These people have proven themselves to be diligent, determined and successful at defeating others against all odds. They show all the signs of proceeding past their current level of extremism to absolute genocide. They still have tons of expensive weapons, left over from the Afghan war and also new ones supplied by terrorists and even (possibly) other governments. The level of terror that they inflict on their own people continues to grow and grow.
If they finally defeat the United Front and other so-called rebels in the north, who says they're going to stop at their own borders? Yes, it would be insane to attack in that heavily armed area of the world, but the Taliban has shown itself to not behave sanely. There's many countries around them full of people that to them are heretics. Talk about a chance for a holy war!
This isn't like the problems in the Balkans or anywhere else that has had religious conflicts recently (I'm not dismissing these events either). It's not "just" two religions or two ethnic groups fighting. It's one group, fighting for systematic destruction of everything it disagrees with. *cough* Sound familiar at all to anyone? How about exterior religious identification? Hmm?
I'm reminded of this quote:
First they came for the Communists, and I didn't speak up, because I wasn't a Communist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up, because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up, because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for me,and by that time there was no one left to speak up for me.
- Rev. Martin Niemoller, 1945
I know that people probably think I'm insane to compare the Taliban to the Nazis, but you know what? Germany was considered a laughable threat too at one time. They'd been destroyed by WWI, they were never going to rise again.
It just seems to me that not enough people (or countries) care about what's happening in Afghanistan. It's the country's issue, let them deal with that. The problem with that is that it could very easily become our issue.
Think about it.
'crow
If you have any idea of what's going on over there, you know how much they've terrorized and punished the farmers to scare them into stopping opium farming. So, essentially, the U.S. is rewarding them for torturing their people.
How lovely. Apparently, it's more important to fight the war on drugs, than it is to fight rights abuses and total opression.
'crow, disgusted (And ftr, I'm from the U.S.)
I think the original post was meant as sarcasm. ;)
'Crow
Think about it.
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