My PacBell friend has even witnessed other PacBell installed pulling pairs that have Covad tags on them off the screws while winking and saying "Oops".
Happened to me too. In the Dallas, TX area. I had just had DSL service installed by Reflex, a company that bypasses the last-mile by installing equipment in apartment leasing offices. Not one hour after the install it mysteriously stopped work for no reason. When the tech finally came out he sais that apparently SWBell came out to do an install and pulled thier wires out. SWBell is just as evil as the other bells. And now with the deregulation they are taking over GTE's local strong holds and destroying all the CLEC's.
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The fundamental reason why communism has failed in the past is because humans by nature always want what they don't have. If in the future we can create abundant sources of energy combined with nano-technology, everybody could pretty much have anything they want. When you can eliminate people's wants and needs they will be free to enjoy more lofty intellectual pursuits. In fact this is pretty much the whole idea behind the Star Trek universe. And the type of government/society (as the two really become the same thing) for this future is socialism/communism.
You must realize, even in the US, the grand land of freedom, justice, and capitalism we really truely don't have any freedom, justice, and capitalism. This is because the government has formed itself as an elitest group detached from society and serving it's own interests (not those of the people). Do you really feel like you have a choice of who represents you? Do you really like who you voted for, or was it just "the lesser of two evils"? Pretty sad if you really look at it.
People need to stand up and take back thier governments. Tools like the internet and philosophies like Open Source are making a good start at doing this. The revolution is near, keep up the good work.
We have the most annoying naming convention. All the sun boxen running slowaris are named sun4sXXX. Those running SunOS are sun4cXXX (I still don't understand what c and s really signify but they fit that pattern). The HP9000 boxen are all name usxXXX. I don't even remember any of the vaxen. Then the personal sun workstations are named csicrnXX (I know crn means Carrollton where we are located, haven't a clue about csi though). These names and the servers behind them are random and meaningless. I remeber when we found out that sun4s028 actually sat on someones desktop. And sun4s038 the server I deal with the most had a faster link added and for some reason got renamed csicrn67, but it actually sits in the server room and is not a workstation. The PCs break the most important rule. Company standard (stricktly enforce by Office Automation (The PC gestopo)) is all PCs (mostly Win95 and WinNT) are name LastnameFirstinitial. My university is a little better. Except there really isn't much of a convention. People just name servers whatever. One of the main public servers is misleadingly named apache. But my favoriot name for a server is the huge multiprocessor sun machine (the most powerfull on campus) is appropriately named Ra (the sun god). Another interesting naming scheme was that of my old ISP. I never really understood it until I saw them all at once: feenix fiinix fohnix fumnix
I'm quite shock that no one has mentioned what is obviously the easiest defense against cyberterrorism. DO NOT CONNECT COMPUTERS WITH SENSITIVE INFOMORMATION OR FUNCTIONS TO THE INTERNET. Sorry to shout, but why doesn't anybody think of this. If people can't connect with the computer they can't preform cyberterrorism. If having these sensitive systems on some sort of WAN is important then build your own damn WAN. Large corporations have been doing it for years. I don't see cyberterrorism as a threat, I see government/managerial stupidity as a threat.
Sorry to rant, but I'm tired of hear all this cyberterrorism BS. I swear if I heard that word one more time...
...somebody has to take the other side so I'll sacrifice myself (for the greater good of the discussion).
I would say there could be very good arguments in support of this concept. Children born severly disabled are very likely to either die very young after much suffering or require extensive and expensive care though the entirety of thier lives. The most severly disabled will not be able to contribute to society and instead become dead weights consuming resources that could be put to other use. The most severly disabled will most likely encounter a great deal of suffering; not just physical, but mental as well. So, in all practicality exactly what purpose does letting the severly dissbled live serve.
Now the theological aspects of this are a whole different and very complex argument and I'm not going to delve into that, but other than those reasons based on religion or morality (typically derived from religion) there are no reasons not to do this.
Now, before you fire your flame thrower let me just say, I'm not disabled (other than slight shortsightedness). Neither am I a parent (as far as I know;). So I'll be the first to admit I haven't the slightest personal insight in this issue. But hey, that's why it's in a disscussion. So if you think I'm moraly corrupt please feel free to enlightenment me and other/.'ers with your insight.
Also, I never said I personaly adgree with this, I'm only saying that it makes logical sense and seems practical.
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P.S. I'm really glad such an interesting and contravesal topic got post (even if it wasn't really news for nerds). It is a great mental exercise and should allow us to step away from our petty computer issue and discuss a really meaningfull issue. I hope that we will all leave this thread somewhat enlightened.
How about the very powerfull sets of cross-platform software I helped write for my company to preform yeild analysis on the semiconductors we manufacture. It's ALL written in Java. Why? Because it greatly cut developement time. It had to work on Win, Solaris, HP-UX, VAX, and several other systems. The web deployment of the end-user clients allowed anybody to use it anywhere, including our customers, without any intervention by us. Plus distributing new versions is as easy as uploading a file. And speaking of customers, our main customer is HP. We happen to be the top manufaturer of HP inkjet heads (the small semiconductor on the head of the cartiage that spits the ink out). So next time you buy ink for your HP printer remeber that if it wasn't for supposedly worthless Java you would be paying much much more for it.
And I would love to see someone try and implement a system like this in ANY other language in the same time/cost frame with the same flexability. I tell you it can't be done.
Actually the X- designation really has nothing to do with being a space plane but rather designates that the aircraft is expiremental. Then again I could be completely wrong.
Hey! What's wrong with Babelfish? They don't cause any problems and they're highly cross platform (all you need is an ear of some sort). Sure they may not be avaliable in stereo yet, but who needs stereo when talking to a Vogan anyways.
Whereas I have observed many, many people who stopped using their brain capacity and, essentially, lost it.
The research I have studied supports this view. I would quote some of it but I don't have it with me. On interesting story pops into mind though. There is a fellowship of sisters (the nun variety) whose members are all over the age of 90. These sisters read books and practice math skills daily and still remain very capable of learning. It is theorized that because the sisters have continued to practice learning instead of stoping thier brains have maintained the flexability most people loose with age. This completely throws out the old saying, "You can't teach an old dog new tricks."
Although there may be an upper capacity limit, I doubt more than 10 people alive at any given time ever get anywhere near it.
I have to disagree with you here. The reasearch I've seen (again, don't have my materials at hand) shows that typically humans use about 10% of thier brains at most. Science has not yet unlocked the mystery of what the rest of the brain is there for. But some would theorize that this could explain strange phenomenon such as ESP. Anyways, back to my point, I would have to say no more than 0 people alive at any given time come close to the capacity limit.
"They pointed to the clause in the ticket contract that said the entities whose lifespans had originated in any of the Plural zones were advised not to travel in hyperspace and did so at thier own risk"
For more information please refer to the message on top of the Quentulus Quazgar Mountians in the land of Sevorbeupstry on the planet Preliumtarn, third out from the sun Zarss in Galactic Sector QQ7 ActiveJ Gamma.
p.s. If you don't get it, you need to read more books.
You got it right that a virus attaches itself to a program and a worm etc.. etc... But even though Melissa is a script it is a script that attaches itself to the documents to propegate. At least this is from what I know so correct me if I'm wrong.
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My PacBell friend has even witnessed other PacBell installed pulling pairs that have Covad tags on them off the screws while winking and saying "Oops".
Happened to me too. In the Dallas, TX area. I had just had DSL service installed by Reflex, a company that bypasses the last-mile by installing equipment in apartment leasing offices. Not one hour after the install it mysteriously stopped work for no reason. When the tech finally came out he sais that apparently SWBell came out to do an install and pulled thier wires out. SWBell is just as evil as the other bells. And now with the deregulation they are taking over GTE's local strong holds and destroying all the CLEC's.
The fundamental reason why communism has failed in the past is because humans by nature always want what they don't have. If in the future we can create abundant sources of energy combined with nano-technology, everybody could pretty much have anything they want. When you can eliminate people's wants and needs they will be free to enjoy more lofty intellectual pursuits. In fact this is pretty much the whole idea behind the Star Trek universe. And the type of government/society (as the two really become the same thing) for this future is socialism/communism.
You must realize, even in the US, the grand land of freedom, justice, and capitalism we really truely don't have any freedom, justice, and capitalism. This is because the government has formed itself as an elitest group detached from society and serving it's own interests (not those of the people). Do you really feel like you have a choice of who represents you? Do you really like who you voted for, or was it just "the lesser of two evils"? Pretty sad if you really look at it.
People need to stand up and take back thier governments. Tools like the internet and philosophies like Open Source are making a good start at doing this. The revolution is near, keep up the good work.
We have the most annoying naming convention. All the sun boxen running slowaris are named sun4sXXX. Those running SunOS are sun4cXXX (I still don't understand what c and s really signify but they fit that pattern). The HP9000 boxen are all name usxXXX. I don't even remember any of the vaxen. Then the personal sun workstations are named csicrnXX (I know crn means Carrollton where we are located, haven't a clue about csi though). These names and the servers behind them are random and meaningless. I remeber when we found out that sun4s028 actually sat on someones desktop. And sun4s038 the server I deal with the most had a faster link added and for some reason got renamed csicrn67, but it actually sits in the server room and is not a workstation. The PCs break the most important rule. Company standard (stricktly enforce by Office Automation (The PC gestopo)) is all PCs (mostly Win95 and WinNT) are name LastnameFirstinitial.
My university is a little better. Except there really isn't much of a convention. People just name servers whatever. One of the main public servers is misleadingly named apache. But my favoriot name for a server is the huge multiprocessor sun machine (the most powerfull on campus) is appropriately named Ra (the sun god).
Another interesting naming scheme was that of my old ISP. I never really understood it until I saw them all at once:
feenix
fiinix
fohnix
fumnix
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I'm in Computer Science.
Management is our enemy.
I have one word: feminism
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Well, I have nothing to back that up, but we were talking about that in class today and I thought it applied.
Actually, if Bill is really making the moves and he loses I suspect he'll just buy Kasparov like everything else.
Microsoft Policy: If you can't beat them, purchase them.
Of course this would mean getting the smart nerds laid more than the dumb jocks. Interesting paradox... ;)
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I'm quite shock that no one has mentioned what is obviously the easiest defense against cyberterrorism. DO NOT CONNECT COMPUTERS WITH SENSITIVE INFOMORMATION OR FUNCTIONS TO THE INTERNET. Sorry to shout, but why doesn't anybody think of this. If people can't connect with the computer they can't preform cyberterrorism. If having these sensitive systems on some sort of WAN is important then build your own damn WAN. Large corporations have been doing it for years. I don't see cyberterrorism as a threat, I see government/managerial stupidity as a threat.
Sorry to rant, but I'm tired of hear all this cyberterrorism BS. I swear if I heard that word one more time...
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...somebody has to take the other side so I'll sacrifice myself (for the greater good of the discussion).
;). So I'll be the first to admit I haven't the slightest personal insight in this issue. But hey, that's why it's in a disscussion. So if you think I'm moraly corrupt please feel free to enlightenment me and other /.'ers with your insight.
I would say there could be very good arguments in support of this concept. Children born severly disabled are very likely to either die very young after much suffering or require extensive and expensive care though the entirety of thier lives. The most severly disabled will not be able to contribute to society and instead become dead weights consuming resources that could be put to other use. The most severly disabled will most likely encounter a great deal of suffering; not just physical, but mental as well. So, in all practicality exactly what purpose does letting the severly dissbled live serve.
Now the theological aspects of this are a whole different and very complex argument and I'm not going to delve into that, but other than those reasons based on religion or morality (typically derived from religion) there are no reasons not to do this.
Now, before you fire your flame thrower let me just say, I'm not disabled (other than slight shortsightedness). Neither am I a parent (as far as I know
Also, I never said I personaly adgree with this, I'm only saying that it makes logical sense and seems practical.
-E29
P.S. I'm really glad such an interesting and contravesal topic got post (even if it wasn't really news for nerds). It is a great mental exercise and should allow us to step away from our petty computer issue and discuss a really meaningfull issue. I hope that we will all leave this thread somewhat enlightened.
IIRC, in 1984 the fiction stories where written by machines to prevent human emotion from leaking into them and possibly inciting the public masses.
Actually, it really stands for No Such Agency.
How about the very powerfull sets of cross-platform software I helped write for my company to preform yeild analysis on the semiconductors we manufacture. It's ALL written in Java. Why? Because it greatly cut developement time. It had to work on Win, Solaris, HP-UX, VAX, and several other systems. The web deployment of the end-user clients allowed anybody to use it anywhere, including our customers, without any intervention by us. Plus distributing new versions is as easy as uploading a file. And speaking of customers, our main customer is HP. We happen to be the top manufaturer of HP inkjet heads (the small semiconductor on the head of the cartiage that spits the ink out). So next time you buy ink for your HP printer remeber that if it wasn't for supposedly worthless Java you would be paying much much more for it.
And I would love to see someone try and implement a system like this in ANY other language in the same time/cost frame with the same flexability. I tell you it can't be done.
AMEN brother!! ;)
Maybe someone should do a survey on how many writers for the media are actually humans and not automatons controlled by a metally impaired government.
Heck with Houston! Dallas is where it's at!!! We need a /. party in Dallas. ;P
I smell a snail-mail bomb comming...
Actually the X- designation really has nothing to do with being a space plane but rather designates that the aircraft is expiremental. Then again I could be completely wrong.
Hey! What's wrong with Babelfish? They don't cause any problems and they're highly cross platform (all you need is an ear of some sort). Sure they may not be avaliable in stereo yet, but who needs stereo when talking to a Vogan anyways.
No. I think this will herald a new era of ASCII art:c k/Graphics/Stereograms/alt.3d.stereograms
http://www.mit.edu:8001/afs/athena/user/b/r/bri
For some reason that link is too long to make an anchor
The research I have studied supports this view. I would quote some of it but I don't have it with me.
On interesting story pops into mind though. There is a fellowship of sisters (the nun variety) whose members are all over the age of 90. These sisters read books and practice math skills daily and still remain very capable of learning. It is theorized that because the sisters have continued to practice learning instead of stoping thier brains have maintained the flexability most people loose with age. This completely throws out the old saying, "You can't teach an old dog new tricks."
I have to disagree with you here. The reasearch I've seen (again, don't have my materials at hand) shows that typically humans use about 10% of thier brains at most. Science has not yet unlocked the mystery of what the rest of the brain is there for. But some would theorize that this could explain strange phenomenon such as ESP.
Anyways, back to my point, I would have to say no more than 0 people alive at any given time come close to the capacity limit.
Actually that first would most likely be considered an exploit.
Don't you mean ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha.
"They pointed to the clause in the ticket contract that said the entities whose lifespans had originated in any of the Plural zones were advised not to travel in hyperspace and did so at thier own risk"
For more information please refer to the message on top of the Quentulus Quazgar Mountians in the land of Sevorbeupstry on the planet Preliumtarn, third out from the sun Zarss in Galactic Sector QQ7 ActiveJ Gamma.
p.s. If you don't get it, you need to read more books.
I guess the fork is mightier than the FUD.
You got it right that a virus attaches itself to a program and a worm etc.. etc... But even though Melissa is a script it is a script that attaches itself to the documents to propegate. At least this is from what I know so correct me if I'm wrong.
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