Hey, I've met some of the folks at Microsoft Research, and they are some of the brightest, coolest people around. Their work is top notch, and what's more, they freely share it within the academic community. Sure, Microsoft enjoys the fruits of their labors, but MSR's research is about as academically pure as one can get. Bell Labs, IBM Research and others are in the same boat, and nobody complains about them! The folks there don't see it as captivity -- they're very good academics who are happy to be getting great salaries for doing what they love, and not having to teach a bunch of drooling undergrads.
i don't know but ambidextrous means that you have two right hands so you are very righty if you are ambidextrous. the new cereal commercials are good but there are too much bairen in them. alex saw a tree from 5 meters away. andrew used epoxy to fix his epox board and thomas chen went to play professional badminton.
lefties are inferior there is a reason that there are more righties. humans are made to be righties latin for left is "sinister", which obviously has a bad connotation. latin for right is "dexter", which obviously has a good connotation.
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I want to switch from pine to mutt. I can't figure out how to set up multiple folders to organize my saved mail using mutt. I made a few directories under ~/Mail, but mutt won't let me use them since it is using the mbox file for everything. I looked over the man page and manual.txt without success. Any tips out there for a mutt newbie?
Okay, I'll have to start this with the obvious here: RedHat isn't Linux.
It's merely a distribution. We all know this, it's been said how many times, yet everybody seems to forget it on occasion when it suits their debate.
Why not compare Debian? ``apt-get upgrade''. Ouch, that was hard. Why not ftp into updates on redhat.com, grab all the rpms and rpm -Uvh *? That's probably too hard too.
Anybody can make blanket statements; MS does it all the time about Linux. If you don't agree with it, that's fine - at least find some valid points to rebut it with though, or just revel in the knowledge that you know better, but do it quietly.
I wish I could read this piece, because I can't connect to it right now. Still, I'd like to add to the musings posted above. I wonder that if we start treating operating systems more like public domain electrical power, will the open source OS still be able to grow? After all, electrical service in many areas started to suck after it was made public domain and became regulated as such.
And secondly, as I anticipate the response to that last question, what happens if this current generation of right-minded hackers falls by the wayside and is replaced by people with less imagination, drive and fairness?
I probably know the answers to those, but figured why not ask anyway? Discussion is healthy, after all.
The l0pht, in my estimation, is a credible source of both technical and hacker-cultural knowledge. That doesn't mean that MTV actually listened to them.
And hey, if you're looking for credible journalism, why are you watching MTV?!
Hi ! As you pointed out, Wolfenstein was a 2D Raytraced thing, but not 3D. I've never got the time to look in the source code, but I remember reading it somewhere that even DOOM II was build in the same manner, adding extra stuff to fool me (|you) that it really builds a TRUE 3D world. So far its fine for me, but raytraced images are far beyond anything produced with poligon (triangle) renderers. It would be fine to see some realtime engines build around Raytrace. Or am I dreaming ?
OCI programming? Uhhhhgghhh. It's cool, but very different/difficult to the uninitiated. The Oracle distribution comes with some good OCI sample programs, but I wish the interface were like mysql's C interface.
With OCI, you have to bind every one of your columns before doing an insert,update, or query.
I suppose that one could write a C wrapper library around OCI which would do that binding for you.
Essentially, DBD::Oracle is such a beast, except it being for the use of perl.
I was at one company where the Oracle consultants suggested using a perl cartridge with Oracle's web server because DBD::Oracle wasn't "supported". I went on the explain that DBD::Oracle is really just an OCI application and that it indeed is something Oracle should look at as being "supported".
By the way, DBD::Oracle (along with DBI) is an excellent piece of code that powers many a site.
I'll be brief.
1. When do you expect that raytracing will be accepted as a good way to do "real-time" gfx engines ? 2. Have you ever considered writing a raytrace engine to be embeded in games ? If "yes" have you done some testing in this direction ? If "no" what stoped you ? 3. What do you thing abount the OO aproach of game writing ? Are you planning OO development with OOP ?
All systems are vulnerable to security issues, however it's important to note that Linux uses the same security model as the original UNIX implementations- a model that was not designed from the ground up to be secure.
There's over 300 comments here already, and the chances that anybody gives a damn about this one in 300 is slim so I'm not going to delve into huge detail...
...but seriously, Microsoft has the balls to attack Linux security, accusing it of using a system that was not design from the ground up to be secure?
I think that describes the MS Windows 9x and NT operating systems to a T. Neither were designed from the ground up to be secure - MS made their operating system with one thing in mind to begin with; dominate the desktop. The desktop, where when they started, a machine was very rarely connected to another, where the only security necessary was setting a CMOS password to keep sneaky house mates out of your stuff.
Without a single worry of other possible security issues. Then came the internet, and widespread use of LANs in the home.. and I for one would not dare accuse MS of trying to develop a secure operating system in light of that.
After all, as windows2000test.com showed us, the best way to secure an MS box, is to make sure it's never up and running for anybody to try and crack it.
uh athlon dies are larger than PIII dies. i find it strange that intel or AMD are not shipping multiple processor SECC packages. maybe its because of space constraints for the cache but then each processor can have only 256k and it'll fit. coppermine is very interesting. It does not have any external L2 backside cache like the PIII and athlon. I see this as a very good opportunity for intel to put two coppermine dies on a single Slot 1 package. I do not believe it is very hard to cool as the coppermine dies are the same height unline the cache and PIII dies. Also, an athlon like heatsink can help cool it. i think AMD should do the same with an integrated cache athlon die. Better yet, both companies can make a double sided Slot 1/A package with their chips on the PCB on both sides, requiring a sandwich cooler. They might be able to fit 8 chips on the package. it'll make a nice SMP system. this is the advantage for slot. then maybe with a new chipset, single slot athlon/PIII boards can ahve 8 processors and dual slot can have 16 processors bwhahahaha.
Because we already have nice and fast backside l2 caches for our processors, a faster/wider system bus won't give as much a performance boost as before. A 25% improvement in bus bandwidth will only yield about 2% improvement in performance in modern processors with a 512k backside cache
Since Regular computing requires on or off bits (binary), and Quantum computing has bits that are on, off, or both..does this mean the Quantum computers work in Base-3 (tertiary) system?
If so, we can forget about 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256 and all those "special" numbers everyone has memorized and start using 3, 9, 27, 81, 243, 729...:)
Before I start, a bit of a mea culpa: I used JP on my site, even did a profile on him back in March or April of '98. And back then, quite frankly, he wasn't a bad source. He had some good stuff, decent contacts, and was still interested in reporting on the hacker scene.
Then, early this year, he re-launched his site and adopted a new editorial policy. And I stopped calling him -- not because of his opinions, because he can do his site however he wants -- but in covering hacking, I need sources that will help me contact and understand the hacking community, not bash it. I want to leave the value judgements to the readers. Thus, I want to have actual hackers as sources, as well as real-world big-time security experts on the other side. Without slamming him one way or another, it's safe to say that JP is neither.
Covering hackers is hard. With a few exceptions, most hackers don't want to be found, and those willing to talk to media usually want a slew of protections. And of course, we in the media have to try to determine whether these folks are bonafide hackers, or just guys who hang out on IRC and play with downloads from last year's B.O. release. It's a tough call, and there are many of us who dropped the ball at one point or another.
As for this column, this was probably the safest way to cover the questions surrounding JP, PacketStorm, and the other controversies. Many journalists have looked into this at one time or another, but there just aren't enough people willing to go on the record to make it a straight news story. But a columnist, as someone writing an opinion piece, has a little more leeway. He must still write factually, but can put forth theories more readily that someone writing straight news stories. I'm glad someone was able to figure out how to report this.
And I wouldn't worry too much about the lawsuits. One could easily argue that by speaking to the media -- indeed, by seeking out news coverage -- JP has made himself into somewhat of a public figure when it comes to the hacking community. If someone slammed JP because of his personal life, then that would be grounds for a suit. But since he's putting himself out there as the expert, questioning that expertise in a public forum is more than appropriate. Of course, I'm not a lawyer...!
That's it. Hope the perspective helps. As usual, this is my opinion, not that of ABCNEWS.com, ABC, Infoseek, Disney, the Mouse, etc., et. al.
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Whats english homework?
Posted by Mike@ABC:
Hey, I've met some of the folks at Microsoft Research, and they are some of the brightest, coolest people around. Their work is top notch, and what's more, they freely share it within the academic community. Sure, Microsoft enjoys the fruits of their labors, but MSR's research is about as academically pure as one can get. Bell Labs, IBM Research and others are in the same boat, and nobody complains about them! The folks there don't see it as captivity -- they're very good academics who are happy to be getting great salaries for doing what they love, and not having to teach a bunch of drooling undergrads.
Posted by Nr9:
IBM has better fabs
Posted by Nr9:
shut up, ure not funny...
Posted by Nr9:
i don't know but ambidextrous means that you have two right hands so you are very righty if you are ambidextrous. the new cereal commercials are good but there are too much bairen in them. alex saw a tree from 5 meters away. andrew used epoxy to fix his epox board and thomas chen went to play professional badminton.
Posted by Nr9:
lefties are inferior
there is a reason that there are more righties. humans are made to be righties
latin for left is "sinister", which obviously has a bad connotation.
latin for right is "dexter", which obviously has a good connotation.
Posted by Nr9:
alexnews.com is the best computer/kung fu/observant/lefty/ALEX OS site.
Posted by Nr9:
What's geeknews?
Posted by Nr9:
Thomas Shen's phone number is 2826-5439
Posted by Nr9:
When should we beat up mankit and alex?
Posted by Julian Cross:
I want to switch from pine to mutt. I can't figure out how to set up multiple folders to organize my saved mail using mutt. I made a few directories under ~/Mail, but mutt won't let me use them since it is using the mbox file for everything. I looked over the man page and manual.txt without success. Any tips out there for a mutt newbie?
Posted by Synsthe:
Okay, I'll have to start this with the obvious here: RedHat isn't Linux.
It's merely a distribution. We all know this, it's been said how many times, yet everybody seems to forget it on occasion when it suits their debate.
Why not compare Debian? ``apt-get upgrade''. Ouch, that was hard. Why not ftp into updates on redhat.com, grab all the rpms and rpm -Uvh *? That's probably too hard too.
Anybody can make blanket statements; MS does it all the time about Linux. If you don't agree with it, that's fine - at least find some valid points to rebut it with though, or just revel in the knowledge that you know better, but do it quietly.
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Posted by Mike@ABC:
I wish I could read this piece, because I can't connect to it right now. Still, I'd like to add to the musings posted above. I wonder that if we start treating operating systems more like public domain electrical power, will the open source OS still be able to grow? After all, electrical service in many areas started to suck after it was made public domain and became regulated as such.
And secondly, as I anticipate the response to that last question, what happens if this current generation of right-minded hackers falls by the wayside and is replaced by people with less imagination, drive and fairness?
I probably know the answers to those, but figured why not ask anyway? Discussion is healthy, after all.
Posted by cookieman.k:
With that "Thank God" you are right.
Posted by NJViking:
:)
I know some 14 year old Quake kiddies who could probably kick the SAS's arses in Quake
-= NJV =-
Posted by Mike@ABC:
The l0pht, in my estimation, is a credible source of both technical and hacker-cultural knowledge. That doesn't mean that MTV actually listened to them.
And hey, if you're looking for credible journalism, why are you watching MTV?!
Posted by cookieman.k:
Hi !
As you pointed out, Wolfenstein was a 2D Raytraced thing, but not 3D. I've never got the time to look in the source code, but I remember reading it somewhere that even DOOM II was build in the same manner, adding extra stuff to fool me (|you) that it really builds a TRUE 3D world.
So far its fine for me, but raytraced images are far beyond anything produced with poligon (triangle) renderers. It would be fine to see some realtime engines build around Raytrace. Or am I dreaming ?
Greetings from
Posted by patg:
OCI programming? Uhhhhgghhh. It's cool, but very different/difficult to the uninitiated. The Oracle distribution comes with some good OCI sample programs, but I wish the interface were like mysql's C interface.
With OCI, you have to bind every one of your columns before doing an insert,update, or query.
I suppose that one could write a C wrapper library around OCI which would do that binding for you.
Essentially, DBD::Oracle is such a beast, except it being for the use of perl.
I was at one company where the Oracle consultants suggested using a perl cartridge with Oracle's web server because DBD::Oracle wasn't "supported". I went on the explain that DBD::Oracle is really just an OCI application and that it indeed is something Oracle should look at as being "supported".
By the way, DBD::Oracle (along with DBI) is an excellent piece of code that powers many a site.
Hi JC!
Posted by Synsthe:
All systems are vulnerable to security issues, however it's important to note that Linux uses the same security model as the original UNIX implementations- a model that was not designed from the ground up to be secure.
There's over 300 comments here already, and the chances that anybody gives a damn about this one in 300 is slim so I'm not going to delve into huge detail...
...but seriously, Microsoft has the balls to attack Linux security, accusing it of using a system that was not design from the ground up to be secure?
I think that describes the MS Windows 9x and NT operating systems to a T. Neither were designed from the ground up to be secure - MS made their operating system with one thing in mind to begin with; dominate the desktop. The desktop, where when they started, a machine was very rarely connected to another, where the only security necessary was setting a CMOS password to keep sneaky house mates out of your stuff.
Without a single worry of other possible security issues. Then came the internet, and widespread use of LANs in the home.. and I for one would not dare accuse MS of trying to develop a secure operating system in light of that.
After all, as windows2000test.com showed us, the best way to secure an MS box, is to make sure it's never up and running for anybody to try and crack it.
Posted by Nr9:
uh
athlon dies are larger than PIII dies.
i find it strange that intel or AMD are not shipping multiple processor SECC packages. maybe its because of space constraints for the cache but then each processor can have only 256k and it'll fit.
coppermine is very interesting. It does not have any external L2 backside cache like the PIII and athlon. I see this as a very good opportunity for intel to put two coppermine dies on a single Slot 1 package. I do not believe it is very hard to cool as the coppermine dies are the same height unline the cache and PIII dies. Also, an athlon like heatsink can help cool it. i think AMD should do the same with an integrated cache athlon die.
Better yet, both companies can make a double sided Slot 1/A package with their chips on the PCB on both sides, requiring a sandwich cooler. They might be able to fit 8 chips on the package. it'll make a nice SMP system. this is the advantage for slot. then maybe with a new chipset, single slot athlon/PIII boards can ahve 8 processors and dual slot can have 16 processors bwhahahaha.
Posted by Nr9:
Because we already have nice and fast backside l2 caches for our processors, a faster/wider system bus won't give as much a performance boost as before.
A 25% improvement in bus bandwidth will only yield about 2% improvement in performance in modern processors with a 512k backside cache
Posted by NJViking:
:)
Since Regular computing requires on or off bits (binary), and Quantum computing has bits that are on, off, or both..does this mean the Quantum computers work in Base-3 (tertiary) system?
If so, we can forget about 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256 and all those "special" numbers everyone has memorized and start using 3, 9, 27, 81, 243, 729...
Takes some getting used to, doesn't it?
-= NJV =-
... waiting for his 531441 bit key
Posted by Mike@ABC:
I read HNN every day. Wouldn't miss it for the world.
Posted by Mike@ABC:
Before I start, a bit of a mea culpa: I used JP on my site, even did a profile on him back in March or April of '98. And back then, quite frankly, he wasn't a bad source. He had some good stuff, decent contacts, and was still interested in reporting on the hacker scene.
Then, early this year, he re-launched his site and adopted a new editorial policy. And I stopped calling him -- not because of his opinions, because he can do his site however he wants -- but in covering hacking, I need sources that will help me contact and understand the hacking community, not bash it. I want to leave the value judgements to the readers. Thus, I want to have actual hackers as sources, as well as real-world big-time security experts on the other side. Without slamming him one way or another, it's safe to say that JP is neither.
Covering hackers is hard. With a few exceptions, most hackers don't want to be found, and those willing to talk to media usually want a slew of protections. And of course, we in the media have to try to determine whether these folks are bonafide hackers, or just guys who hang out on IRC and play with downloads from last year's B.O. release. It's a tough call, and there are many of us who dropped the ball at one point or another.
As for this column, this was probably the safest way to cover the questions surrounding JP, PacketStorm, and the other controversies. Many journalists have looked into this at one time or another, but there just aren't enough people willing to go on the record to make it a straight news story. But a columnist, as someone writing an opinion piece, has a little more leeway. He must still write factually, but can put forth theories more readily that someone writing straight news stories. I'm glad someone was able to figure out how to report this.
And I wouldn't worry too much about the lawsuits. One could easily argue that by speaking to the media -- indeed, by seeking out news coverage -- JP has made himself into somewhat of a public figure when it comes to the hacking community. If someone slammed JP because of his personal life, then that would be grounds for a suit. But since he's putting himself out there as the expert, questioning that expertise in a public forum is more than appropriate. Of course, I'm not a lawyer...!
That's it. Hope the perspective helps. As usual, this is my opinion, not that of ABCNEWS.com, ABC, Infoseek, Disney, the Mouse, etc., et. al.