The apocalypse is not going to come when people expect it to come, even Jesus can't tell the moment when its gonna happen. And even God himself warn us in the Bible: everyone to be prepared because everything can happen anytime. God is alive wich means he can THINK / LOVE /... and is not a seqvencial machine and expect it to do: if (Russia->Attack(Israel)) Apocalipse();>
Thats All I have to say.
How did this discussion get from a scientific discovery of planets to an argument over operating systems?
For a start, these planets have not actually been identified as planets - not even the Gemini array on Kitt Peak in Hawii or the experimental SUSI optical interferomiter at Naribri in Australia has the resolution to observe planets in orbit of the closest stars, let alone any star far enough away to have a chance of statistically containing planets.
Secondally, their mass has been observed by watching how the star "wobbles" - how the author of this article can claim they have Jupiter mass is beyond me! I havn't studied beyond 2nd year Astrophysics, but as any amature astronomer knows, the "wobble" is the effect of the whole mass orbiting the star - these "planets" are just as likely to be chunks of moon sized rocks randomly orbiting just like an astoriod belt, or half a dozen uranus-mass gas giants!
Thirdly, the "zone capable of supporting life" exists arround the orbit of ANY star - as exciting as this sounds, all this zone is is the area where the temperature of an object as it rotates toward and away from the star, averages out so that water is capable of remaining in a liquid state. The presense of water has NOTHING to do with whether or not the planet supports, or is even capable of supporting, life.
Finally, there are FAR more parameters to determining the likely hood of life than just water! The presense of life on earth is just a statistical considence, with nothing special in the universal sense - the presence of a moon to protect the surface of the planet from excessive metor strikes, the presense of a Jupter mass giant to shield the planet from both internal and external objects, a star of the correct class to live for long enough to even see life appear, but not small enough so that the energy output is too small.... the list goes on.
And everyone here is arguing over which alien culture uses Windows 98?
As a site that sometimes claims to be of the journalistic variety there is a responsibility to ask yourself whether something should be posted or not. In many cases, what is posted on Slashdot a Real Journalist (tm) or Real Editor (tm) would have shunned posting it. A decent journalist would not run a story based on Greenspan's off the cuff commentary in a restaurant. If Bruce had planned to actually sue Corel (and I'm not saying it's a bad idea...) he would have made an official announcement. That would have been the time to actually cover the "story" -- Now Bruce and others like him know that unless they wish to be unduly scrutinized they can only communicate with the community via private email (time consuming), or only post non-controversial comments (self-censorship) or stay silent lest they be crucified for their opinions, whether they act on them or not. Hemos was correct, this should not have been posted in the first place. Kudos for doing the fact-checking, at least that's improving, but just because Bruce or one of the figureheads of the community makes a comment it doesn't make it fair game. True, under fair use law, it's legal to post one of Bruce's comments on a public mailing list, but that doesn't make it right.
Like the super heroes that most of us loved as kids, and probably still love now, Slashdot needs to learn that with great power comes great responsibility, and that means learning not to post everything that might be interesting until all of the facts are in. It's time to start behaving like a true news source, guys.
With all my respect,
I've read it but it does'nt sound troll to me, a little offtopic but moustly INFORMATIVE. Hey MODERATORS, whats the matter with you ! This must be a mistake, right ?
At least this guy did not write "first post" like other stuppid geeks.
back to work...
So we can see that everybody here are mixing what they think with reality, and there are fluctuations in the consistency of their definition. So what is an OS ? I'm too young to answere that. BUT we can observe the OS concept has changed over time and every OS developer team adopts a diferent strategy. Look at monolitic(LINUX) and microkernel(QNX) OS'es for example. The common denominator of all OS'es is the answere ? Maybe. It's hard to draw a line betwen OS and APLICATIONS with all those flying DLL in NT/WIN95. It's stupid to settle for an OS wich can be crashed by the smallest aplication.
My definiton here:
The OS is (at least) the part of code wich handle the hardware exceptions and manages processes.
Next we'll have the following question: How would you define an API ?
!! This post have been evaluated as: Offtopic/Inflammatory/Inappropriate/Illegal/Offens ive/Redundant/Troll/Flamebait. !!
i'm not fucking american you fuck shit... you sound like someone who live in fucking america so you are fucking asian american. asians are proud not to be fucking americans. if u like the fucking chinese government go live in fucking prc. do u know what GAN NI NIA MEANS>.. I WANT U TO GAN NI NIA U FUCKIN ASIAN AMERICAN.
extremely well written. clearly shows why the GON FE Chinese government shouldn't be trusted and should never be trusted ANY GON Fe's reading this? comon u gon fe shit? yea...the guys who used simplified chinese and Pin YIN... GAN NI NIA...TZAO!!!>TA MA DE JEE BAI.. GO BACK , take ure simplified CHINeZSE AND TZE SHIR. ALso, PRAy TO MAO ZHU SHI and KiSS DENG'S DEAD BODY...ALSO SAY HI TO MR. JIANG FOR ME.. >and LET HIM known that he's a fuckin eunuch... hHgo back and zhong tien cuZ thats all GON FE Know how to DO.
As much as others seem to dislike, I think that this will be the future for independent paltform/CPU/Language code porting. I'm not refering only to Java here, but every compiler can be *easily* modified to make such PCODE based output. Even further, the ideea of parsing some text file (C++/Java/HTML/...) and getting a PCODE output(or something like this) can also be generalized. There's some comercialy available product also that parse various syntax languages. I've seen it in DDJ, but i forgot it's name... . I also am working(design phase) at some sort of parser that will implement much of those things described above. I do not mention more because I would have to kill you:)
You are right, we must do some steps to not depend on binaries. Any alternative solution ? Nope, for now... Greets:
Junkbuster can stop web redirectors from tracking where you've been. I think more and more people should be running this type of software in order to avoid being tracked by direct marketers.
Hi !
I haven't observed that chips burn out faster, tough I've overclocked all my processors till now starting with the old 486Cyrix DL 40 -> 66 Mhz, Mhz 486DX2/66->80. AMD 5x86 133-> 150 Mhz, K6II 266->333 Mhz, and much more(I can't remember how manny of them).I must tell you that i've done some pretty hard thing with some of them : ex: Cyrix 6x86 133 -> 200 with 2.8V to 3.2. An it works right now very well.
Be sure that they were used hard. My Brother used to put the machine at long rendering session (8 hrs or so) with 3DMax and he never had any problem.
I think that technlogy evolves faster enough to use the overclocking technologies, CPU's wont explode on you, peopels shift through CPU's faster than they burn out. You should get the maximum performance while you can.
Disclammer:
Hi! Does this mean that my system will (c)rush in to the BSOD whit greater speed ?
Or is it Microsoft presuring INTEL to make the csip faster due to the great time requirements of booting Win2000.?How much time do we have left ? Our UPS wont resist more than 3 hours , sir...
That's right, a lot of people enter bogus in every registration form. It's not right that they colect information about you. It's like when someone is mumbling through you pockets. Who likes that ?
Lets focus on the subject:
I think that information that usualy get colected can be used to harm that person. Given the potential we must assume that this will (ocasionaly) happen.
That "register-and-gimmi-your-name-and-address" is only an excuse to invade the peoples privacy. There's a conspiracy going on. They could design some local-stored-informacion-colection thing. But they dont want to. I'm sure they are using the data sent to them for some sort of statistical analisys. Who knows ?
You don't need to download each RPM, personally I download the ISO image of each of four or five distros, then burn them onto a CD-RW disc and use that until the next distro update. Sure it takes some time to download, but I get the CD faster than ordering it from cheapbytes or lsl.
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Posted by cookieman.k:
... and is not a seqvencial machine and expect it to do: if (Russia->Attack(Israel)) Apocalipse();>
Thats All I have to say.
The apocalypse is not going to come when people expect it to come, even Jesus can't tell the moment when its gonna happen. And even God himself warn us in the Bible: everyone to be prepared because everything can happen anytime. God is alive wich means he can THINK / LOVE /
Posted by cookieman.k:
The ape has a brain and he KNOWS he's the center of the universe!
Posted by Tven:
How did this discussion get from a scientific discovery of planets to an argument over operating systems?
For a start, these planets have not actually been identified as planets - not even the Gemini array on Kitt Peak in Hawii or the experimental SUSI optical interferomiter at Naribri in Australia has the resolution to observe planets in orbit of the closest stars, let alone any star far enough away to have a chance of statistically containing planets.
Secondally, their mass has been observed by watching how the star "wobbles" - how the author of this article can claim they have Jupiter mass is beyond me! I havn't studied beyond 2nd year Astrophysics, but as any amature astronomer knows, the "wobble" is the effect of the whole mass orbiting the star - these "planets" are just as likely to be chunks of moon sized rocks randomly orbiting just like an astoriod belt, or half a dozen uranus-mass gas giants!
Thirdly, the "zone capable of supporting life" exists arround the orbit of ANY star - as exciting as this sounds, all this zone is is the area where the temperature of an object as it rotates toward and away from the star, averages out so that water is capable of remaining in a liquid state. The presense of water has NOTHING to do with whether or not the planet supports, or is even capable of supporting, life.
Finally, there are FAR more parameters to determining the likely hood of life than just water! The presense of life on earth is just a statistical considence, with nothing special in the universal sense - the presence of a moon to protect the surface of the planet from excessive metor strikes, the presense of a Jupter mass giant to shield the planet from both internal and external objects, a star of the correct class to live for long enough to even see life appear, but not small enough so that the energy output is too small.... the list goes on.
And everyone here is arguing over which alien culture uses Windows 98?
Posted by polar_bear:
Actually, it's like saying that the press shouldn't report on a bill that a congressperson talks about at a party until it's actually introduced.
Posted by polar_bear:
As a site that sometimes claims to be of the journalistic variety there is a responsibility to ask yourself whether something should be posted or not. In many cases, what is posted on Slashdot a Real Journalist (tm) or Real Editor (tm) would have shunned posting it. A decent journalist would not run a story based on Greenspan's off the cuff commentary in a restaurant. If Bruce had planned to actually sue Corel (and I'm not saying it's a bad idea...) he would have made an official announcement. That would have been the time to actually cover the "story" -- Now Bruce and others like him know that unless they wish to be unduly scrutinized they can only communicate with the community via private email (time consuming), or only post non-controversial comments (self-censorship) or stay silent lest they be crucified for their opinions, whether they act on them or not. Hemos was correct, this should not have been posted in the first place. Kudos for doing the fact-checking, at least that's improving, but just because Bruce or one of the figureheads of the community makes a comment it doesn't make it fair game. True, under fair use law, it's legal to post one of Bruce's comments on a public mailing list, but that doesn't make it right.
Like the super heroes that most of us loved as kids, and probably still love now, Slashdot needs to learn that with great power comes great responsibility, and that means learning not to post everything that might be interesting until all of the facts are in. It's time to start behaving like a true news source, guys.
Posted by NJViking:
No that's not it.
23:59:59 would be the last odd timestamp!
-= NJViking =-
Posted by cookieman.k:
...
With all my respect, I've read it but it does'nt sound troll to me, a little offtopic but moustly INFORMATIVE. Hey MODERATORS, whats the matter with you ! This must be a mistake, right ? At least this guy did not write "first post" like other stuppid geeks. back to work
check out all the domains they have registerd
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Posted by cookieman.k:
s ive/Redundant/Troll/Flamebait. !!
So we can see that everybody here are mixing what they think with reality, and there are fluctuations in the consistency of their definition. So what is an OS ? I'm too young to answere that. BUT we can observe the OS concept has changed over time and every OS developer team adopts a diferent strategy. Look at monolitic(LINUX) and microkernel(QNX) OS'es for example. The common denominator of all OS'es is the answere ? Maybe. It's hard to draw a line betwen OS and APLICATIONS with all those flying DLL in NT/WIN95. It's stupid to settle for an OS wich can be crashed by the smallest aplication. My definiton here: The OS is (at least) the part of code wich handle the hardware exceptions and manages processes. Next we'll have the following question: How would you define an API ? !! This post have been evaluated as: Offtopic/Inflammatory/Inappropriate/Illegal/Offen
Posted by Nr9:
i'm not fucking american you fuck shit... you sound like someone who live in fucking america so you are fucking asian american. asians are proud not to be fucking americans. if u like the fucking chinese government go live in fucking prc. do u know what GAN NI NIA MEANS>.. I WANT U TO GAN NI NIA U FUCKIN ASIAN AMERICAN.
Posted by Nr9:
ehehheh... nnot CHINA.. China IS GON FE AND CAN go Gan TA DE NIA
TAIWAN is BESTEST
Posted by Nr9:
..the guys who used simplified chinese and Pin YIN ... GAN NI NIA ...TZAO!!!>TA MA DE JEE BAI.. GO BACK , take ure simplified CHINeZSE AND TZE SHIR. ALso, PRAy TO MAO ZHU SHI and KiSS DENG'S DEAD BODY.. .ALSO SAY HI TO MR. JIANG FOR ME.. >and LET HIM known that he's a fuckin eunuch... hHgo back and zhong tien cuZ thats all GON FE Know how to DO.
extremely well written.
clearly shows why the GON FE Chinese government shouldn't be trusted and should never be trusted
ANY GON Fe's reading this? comon u gon fe shit? yea.
Posted by Nr9:
...
can't you see?
its so simple
Posted by cookieman.k:
... . I also am working(design phase) at some sort of parser that will implement much of those things described above. I do not mention more because I would have to kill you :)
You are right, we must do some steps to not depend on binaries. Any alternative solution ? Nope, for now... Greets:
As much as others seem to dislike, I think that this will be the future for independent paltform/CPU/Language code porting. I'm not refering only to Java here, but every compiler can be *easily* modified to make such PCODE based output. Even further, the ideea of parsing some text file (C++/Java/HTML/...) and getting a PCODE output(or something like this) can also be generalized. There's some comercialy available product also that parse various syntax languages. I've seen it in DDJ, but i forgot it's name
Posted by NJViking:
Does the cypherpunks/cypherpunks login still work at NY Times? IIRC, last time I tried getting in, it didn't work, so perhaps NYT has removed that.
-= NJV =-
Posted by NJViking:
Junkbuster can stop web redirectors from tracking where you've been. I think more and more people should be running this type of software in order to avoid being tracked by direct marketers.
-= NJV =-
Posted by cookieman.k:
YO! Justice in the US = crapy of options ? Disclamer:
Posted by cookieman.k:
Hi ! I haven't observed that chips burn out faster, tough I've overclocked all my processors till now starting with the old 486Cyrix DL 40 -> 66 Mhz, Mhz 486DX2/66->80. AMD 5x86 133-> 150 Mhz, K6II 266->333 Mhz, and much more(I can't remember how manny of them).I must tell you that i've done some pretty hard thing with some of them : ex: Cyrix 6x86 133 -> 200 with 2.8V to 3.2. An it works right now very well. Be sure that they were used hard. My Brother used to put the machine at long rendering session (8 hrs or so) with 3DMax and he never had any problem. I think that technlogy evolves faster enough to use the overclocking technologies, CPU's wont explode on you, peopels shift through CPU's faster than they burn out. You should get the maximum performance while you can. Disclammer:
Posted by cookieman.k:
Hi! Does this mean that my system will (c)rush in to the BSOD whit greater speed ? Or is it Microsoft presuring INTEL to make the csip faster due to the great time requirements of booting Win2000.? How much time do we have left ? Our UPS wont resist more than 3 hours , sir...
I think you are right. IP assigned at birth is privacy invading stuff at best.
Posted by cookieman.k:
I find your idea interesting. Greets:
That's right, a lot of people enter bogus in every registration form. It's not right that they colect information about you. It's like when someone is mumbling through you pockets. Who likes that ? Lets focus on the subject: I think that information that usualy get colected can be used to harm that person. Given the potential we must assume that this will (ocasionaly) happen. That "register-and-gimmi-your-name-and-address" is only an excuse to invade the peoples privacy. There's a conspiracy going on. They could design some local-stored-informacion-colection thing. But they dont want to. I'm sure they are using the data sent to them for some sort of statistical analisys. Who knows ?
Posted by patg:
this whole thing is weird
Posted by dos-de-place:
You don't need to download each RPM, personally I download the ISO image of each of four or five distros, then burn them onto a CD-RW disc and use that until the next distro update. Sure it takes some time to download, but I get the CD faster than ordering it from cheapbytes or lsl.
Posted by Nr9:
who the fuck do you think you are?