how dare you compare VI to emacs. with VI you can get some real work done it has just the right power for the job.
emacs, is like that show "home inprovment" yea is fun to watch tim, but you know that he never gets alot of work done. tim calls "more power, more power... " does the job get any easyer? no and tim damages something in the end.
pico, hmmm well guess you have to start somewhere... try VI unless you have a werd keyboad layout then uh never mind...
nmarshall #include "standard_disclaimer.h" R.U. SIRIUS: THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESPONSE
just wait, i use a windows based POS... and it's flaky as hell. we "upgraded" the other day one POS is dead, and the other now, sometimes scans sometime doesnt...
although ALT-TAB to play sol.exe is kind of fun...
nmarshall #include "standard_disclaimer.h" R.U. SIRIUS: THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESPONSE
and they are only uncommen... which tell me that someone didnt know how to play... or all the cards. ( this is why i quit M:tg cause i couldnt remenber all the cards... )
nmarshall #include "standard_disclaimer.h" R.U. SIRIUS: THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESPONSE
hmmm an intersting thought, would that be meta-meta-moderators? but then you would need meta-meta-meta-moderators, and then meta-meta-meta-meta-moderators...
you get the pic.
now how to stop the infine regress, of meta-moderation? i dont know. i havenot finished Godel, Escher, Bach i have a feeling that the answer (42) is in there somewhere:)
nmarshall #include "standard_disclaimer.h" R.U. SIRIUS: THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESPONSE
... yea, that's right the headline was "Hackers open big hole in Hotmail" although the story has little content. maybe people will drop Hotmail... hmmm no that would be too smart of them.
nmarshall #include "standard_disclaimer.h" R.U. SIRIUS: THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESPONSE
technology makes it so one can do more with less. so what we are seeing is that we dont need all of the population employed. yet, everyone thinks that unemployment is a bad thing. so what we need is some means for people to receive necessities of live. this "problem" so far hasnt been solved... and it keep coming up. ie "how will programers eat if software is free?", "how will the economical underclassed eat if they can't do any 'work'?"
does anyone else see the similarity? that the march of technology, will change everything? that our money system can't coup with unlimited suplus? that draging our feet and anvoiding the problem doesnt help?
for more on the quest for a 'fix' read RAW's illuminati papers. ( wish i had the time to write more but work calls... )
nmarshall #include "standard_disclaimer.h" R.U. SIRIUS: THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESPONSE
4. What do you use your computer for? Check all that apply. for each item checked, please indicate the approximate percentage of computer time spent. Percentages should total 100.
my "other" was refreashing slashdot....
just wait one day we will have an Epistemophilia Pride March on DC...
nmarshall #include "standard_disclaimer.h" R.U. SIRIUS: THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESPONSE
The law requires that trucking companies randomly drug test drivers on a draconian random basis. [...] The justification is to make the roads safer since such a large number of trucker are drug addicts. And it has made things safer, too.
is there some hard facts to support these? ie that truchers are drug addicts? or are the drugs being blamed? also who said this, do they profit for saying this?
Don't all of you remember the daily reports of drug crazed truck drivers [...] running church buses off the road killing all aboard? When is the last time you heard such a report?
last month, or was it last mothers day... was in new orleans, cops blamed his illigal drug use. but i think it was is just a heart attack, and his use of MJ was to easy the pain but that a diffrent story... (more info somewhere here i can't look, cause im at work...)
also most drug tests dont get the really deadly ones ( coke and speed ). werd hmmm?
nmarshall #include "standard_disclaimer.h" R.U. SIRIUS: THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESPONSE
my point was w/ and secret warrant you have no idea of what you will / willnt be chared with.
ie if the FED's are searching my house for illigal pr0n, then i can at least start thinging about what the fsck i am going to do if i have some and they find it. if i dont know what they are looking well, there isnt much i can do. or think of to do. this will only increass the level of paranoia in the USA. which will, led to more crime etc...
nmarshall #include "standard_disclaimer.h" R.U. SIRIUS: THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESPONSE
hmmm, if then had to pay for EACH installation on EVERY computer they installed it on. i know i would really have to think about it. ( $100 for an installation. now how meny linux users are there? and most geeks i now have more then one computer... also there would have to be an extra charge for non-RedHat boxs... )
but then most linux users would know or would know where to find out how to fix said snooper. hmmm, can see it now.. next LUG meeting "how to spoof FED. snooperware", with the subtitle "for educational uses only".
nmarshall #include "standard_disclaimer.h" R.U. SIRIUS: THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESPONSE
Once more if you're clean, Uncle Sam leaves you alone.
hmmm, history clearly shows us that this is false. ie: dr. tim leary 20+ for telling uncle sam facts about lsd the good old uncle didnt like. most of that time was in solitary. dr. wilhelm reich died in prison cause the AMA did like some of his various theories. they then burned his books...
o' i guess when you say "if your're clean" you mean that you dont talk about anything that you beleve in that doesnt "fit in" with what uncle sam thinks...
which leds us to SNAFU. (SNAFU: Situation Normal All Fucked Up ) for more of an explation (i dont have time and the space) read some of RAW's books...
nmarshall #include "standard_disclaimer.h" R.U. SIRIUS: THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESPONSE
Me, the only difference I see is whether you know you're screwed sooner rather than later.
true, but w/ secret warrants you dont know why you are beening screwed! ie did your x-lover plant somethingi and then make an call? or are the Fed's after them teen pr0n? w/ a secret warrant you dont know! so how can you build a defence for something you can't see comming?
nmarshall #include "standard_disclaimer.h" R.U. SIRIUS: THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESPONSE
One guy here says "If I do more, I will be expected to do more".
this seems to be very true. for most work, ( that is that work that a ape could be trained to do.) having had jobs like this i would say that the only means that productivity will, increase is to remove the human from the job. ie if a machine can do the work why isn't it doing it? ( yes, yes i wouldn't what people to starve but that a diffrent rant)
nmarshall #include "standard_disclaimer.h" R.U. SIRIUS: THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESPONSE
hmmm, like the idea. i also would like to see my daughter programing, but how to sneak this by her mom ( who's technophobic ).... maybe if you GPL the book / software. hmmmm... maybe you should first start with coloring books...
nmarshall #include "standard_disclaimer.h" R.U. SIRIUS: THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESPONSE
Microsoft [..] spends tons of money [..] on useability and the human interface.
your kidding right? check out the Interface Hall of Shame they show that M$ didnt spend tons of money on anything but ad's! (rant mode on) IMHO gnome's "try, untry, ok, cancel" is much better then M$'s "OK, Cancel, Apply" ie WTF does Apply do that's diffrent than Ok? ( dont answer that i know alreadly...) (rant off) now, yes M$ is consistent, but not easy to use. i would love to have a consistent way to do things, but thats what gnome and kde are for right?
nmarshall #include "standard_disclaimer.h" R.U. SIRIUS: THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESPONSE
what i would like to see....
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... i'm one of those parents who has a kid and can't spend all the time i wish with my little girl. her, mom thinks ( for reasons i dont grok ) thinks she needs another job. and because of this, who will watch and spend time with my little girl? Mr. TV thats who. Mr. TV as no moralz, values, ethics, life other then that crape that seems to me to be p0rn for little people... do i like this? no. can i change how things will become? not really, the courts willn't let me have my little girl. and nether will her mom. not that i have the time. cause for some reason that i dont grok i have to go and find a master to work for. ie find a job. i'm little better off then some slave. i must work to get food, a place to live and something to wear. but i must raise my kid too...
yea, government censorship isnt a solution, it seems to me to be government babysitting. or childraiseing. if the government really whats to help me with my kid. try lowering the cost of living. and or how meny hours i need to work. then i would have the time to spend. not that i dont spend my weekends with my little girl ( this is why i havent updated my website in an year ).
Amerikkkan society seems to try to keep our children innocent for as long as they can cause they dont what to have to say they bad parents that there lives are fucked up (we live in a SNAFU!) that there seems not to be the time to be, both a parent and work, so we work to live, and end up do a shity "job" of parenting, thus why there is a wish for govenment censorship.
nmarshall #include "standard_disclaimer.h" R.U. SIRIUS: THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESPONSE
anarchists anger me. they think in slogans and don't look at things logically.
dear, goddess look at the mess that the sentence is. you are generalizing. dont. not all anarchist are the same. just like not all jews are the same.
here's just one arguement for having people in charge: sewage
so a machine couldnt do this job better? and yes we could make machines that take care of other machines. so NO people would have to do anything... other then creative work. not the crated work.
nmarshall #include "standard_disclaimer.h" R.U. SIRIUS: THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESPONSE
..it will happen as soon as you're ready to pay for "free" Internet access for every loser who's too lazy to earn the money to buy it on his own.... Are you going to ask the government to steal even more money... [to "pay" for net access]
lets brack this up into two points.
one. would i be ready to pay for "free" Internet.
i think you mean, pay for those people that can't adford internet. well, IMHO "paymant" of "money" for something not produced, seems werd. that is i would like to see that if the net becomes more inportent in everyday life that it becomes a public sysvice that tax dollares "pay" for. ie everyone gets a cable in the house that the tv / computer / phone connects to. now you could pay for better / faster connection.
two ... Are you going to ask the government to steal even more money... [to "pay" for net access]
well, the government already steal's (takes money from me by force) from me to "pay" for all kinds of things i dont like. ie war's, anti-drug ad's, bio-weapons. so i dont see the diff.
if only we the people had more say there would be less horseshit in the world.... and no voting for the ether / or parties seems not to help change things.
nmarshall #include "standard_disclaimer.h" R.U. SIRIUS: THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESPONSE
Slashdot Mirror
how dare you compare VI to emacs. with VI you can get some real work done it has just the right power for the job.
emacs, is like that show "home inprovment" yea is fun to watch tim, but you know that he never gets alot of work done. tim calls "more power, more power... " does the job get any easyer? no and tim damages something in the end.
pico, hmmm well guess you have to start somewhere... try VI unless you have a werd keyboad layout then uh never mind...
nmarshall
#include "standard_disclaimer.h"
R.U. SIRIUS: THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESPONSE
just wait, i use a windows based POS... and it's flaky as hell. we "upgraded" the other day one POS is dead, and the other now, sometimes scans sometime doesnt...
although ALT-TAB to play sol.exe is kind of fun...
nmarshall
#include "standard_disclaimer.h"
R.U. SIRIUS: THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESPONSE
think we need a Free Gene Foundation. if we dont who will?
can see it now...
"what a faster, better, stronger, bod? try GNH. give FGF, your first born today!"
k, maybe not.
nmarshall
#include "standard_disclaimer.h"
R.U. SIRIUS: THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESPONSE
and they are only uncommen... which tell me that someone didnt know how to play... or all the cards. ( this is why i quit M:tg cause i couldnt remenber all the cards... )
nmarshall
#include "standard_disclaimer.h"
R.U. SIRIUS: THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESPONSE
goddess, how funny. i really like the one about unix...
nmarshall
#include "standard_disclaimer.h"
R.U. SIRIUS: THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESPONSE
hmmm an intersting thought, would that be meta-meta-moderators? but then you would need meta-meta-meta-moderators, and then meta-meta-meta-meta-moderators...
:)
you get the pic.
now how to stop the infine regress, of meta-moderation? i dont know. i havenot finished Godel, Escher, Bach i have a feeling that the answer (42) is in there somewhere
nmarshall
#include "standard_disclaimer.h"
R.U. SIRIUS: THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESPONSE
... yea, that's right the headline was "Hackers open big hole in Hotmail" although the story has little content. maybe people will drop Hotmail... hmmm no that would be too smart of them.
nmarshall
#include "standard_disclaimer.h"
R.U. SIRIUS: THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESPONSE
...well, where are my three examples?
nmarshall
#include "standard_disclaimer.h"
R.U. SIRIUS: THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESPONSE
good post... hope someone moderates it up.
also on technology.
technology makes it so one can do more with less. so what we are seeing is that we dont need all of the population employed. yet, everyone thinks that unemployment is a bad thing. so what we need is some means for people to receive necessities of live. this "problem" so far hasnt been solved... and it keep coming up. ie "how will programers eat if software is free?", "how will the economical underclassed eat if they can't do any 'work'?"
does anyone else see the similarity? that the march of technology, will change everything? that our money system can't coup with unlimited suplus? that draging our feet and anvoiding the problem doesnt help?
for more on the quest for a 'fix' read RAW's illuminati papers. ( wish i had the time to write more but work calls... )
nmarshall
#include "standard_disclaimer.h"
R.U. SIRIUS: THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESPONSE
another Epistemophiliac [sp?]...
i have the same problem. thus why i answered
4. What do you use your computer for? Check all that apply. for each item checked, please indicate the approximate percentage of computer time spent. Percentages should total 100.
my "other" was refreashing slashdot....
just wait one day we will have an Epistemophilia Pride March on DC...
nmarshall
#include "standard_disclaimer.h"
R.U. SIRIUS: THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESPONSE
LOL....
didnt know that cDc was werking for uncle sam...
nmarshall
#include "standard_disclaimer.h"
R.U. SIRIUS: THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESPONSE
The law requires that trucking companies randomly drug test drivers on a draconian random basis. [...] The justification is to make the roads safer since such a large number of trucker are drug addicts. And it has made things safer, too.
is there some hard facts to support these? ie that truchers are drug addicts? or are the drugs being blamed? also who said this, do they profit for saying this?
Don't all of you remember the daily reports of drug crazed truck drivers [...] running church buses off the road killing all aboard? When is the last time you heard such a report?
last month, or was it last mothers day... was in new orleans, cops blamed his illigal drug use. but i think it was is just a heart attack, and his use of MJ was to easy the pain but that a diffrent story... (more info somewhere here i can't look, cause im at work...)
also most drug tests dont get the really deadly ones ( coke and speed ). werd hmmm?
nmarshall
#include "standard_disclaimer.h"
R.U. SIRIUS: THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESPONSE
my point was w/ and secret warrant you have no idea of what you will / willnt be chared with.
ie if the FED's are searching my house for illigal pr0n, then i can at least start thinging about what the fsck i am going to do if i have some and they find it. if i dont know what they are looking well, there isnt much i can do. or think of to do. this will only increass the level of paranoia in the USA. which will, led to more crime etc...
nmarshall
#include "standard_disclaimer.h"
R.U. SIRIUS: THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESPONSE
hmmm, if then had to pay for EACH installation on EVERY computer they installed it on. i know i would really have to think about it. ( $100 for an installation. now how meny linux users are there? and most geeks i now have more then one computer... also there would have to be an extra charge for non-RedHat boxs... )
but then most linux users would know or would know where to find out how to fix said snooper.
hmmm, can see it now.. next LUG meeting "how to spoof FED. snooperware", with the subtitle "for educational uses only".
nmarshall
#include "standard_disclaimer.h"
R.U. SIRIUS: THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESPONSE
Once more if you're clean, Uncle Sam leaves you alone.
hmmm, history clearly shows us that this is false. ie:
dr. tim leary 20+ for telling uncle sam facts about lsd the good old uncle didnt like. most of that time was in solitary.
dr. wilhelm reich died in prison cause the AMA did like some of his various theories. they then burned his books...
o' i guess when you say "if your're clean" you mean that you dont talk about anything that you beleve in that doesnt "fit in" with what uncle sam thinks...
which leds us to SNAFU. (SNAFU: Situation Normal All Fucked Up )
for more of an explation (i dont have time and the space) read some of RAW's books...
nmarshall
#include "standard_disclaimer.h"
R.U. SIRIUS: THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESPONSE
Me, the only difference I see is whether you know you're screwed sooner rather than later.
true, but w/ secret warrants you dont know why you are beening screwed! ie did your x-lover plant somethingi and then make an call? or are the Fed's after them teen pr0n? w/ a secret warrant you dont know! so how can you build a defence for something you can't see comming?
nmarshall
#include "standard_disclaimer.h"
R.U. SIRIUS: THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESPONSE
One guy here says "If I do more, I will be expected to do more".
this seems to be very true. for most work, ( that is that work that a ape could be trained to do.) having had jobs like this i would say that the only means that productivity will, increase is to remove the human from the job. ie if a machine can do the work why isn't it doing it? ( yes, yes i wouldn't what people to starve but that a diffrent rant)
nmarshall
#include "standard_disclaimer.h"
R.U. SIRIUS: THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESPONSE
hmmm, like the idea. i also would like to see my daughter programing, but how to sneak this by her mom ( who's technophobic ).... maybe if you GPL the book / software. hmmmm... maybe you should first start with coloring books...
nmarshall
#include "standard_disclaimer.h"
R.U. SIRIUS: THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESPONSE
Microsoft [..] spends tons of money [..] on useability and the human interface.
your kidding right? check out the Interface Hall of Shame they show that M$ didnt spend tons of money on anything but ad's!
(rant mode on)
IMHO gnome's "try, untry, ok, cancel" is much better then M$'s "OK, Cancel, Apply" ie WTF does Apply do that's diffrent than Ok? ( dont answer that i know alreadly...)
(rant off)
now, yes M$ is consistent, but not easy to use. i would love to have a consistent way to do things, but thats what gnome and kde are for right?
nmarshall
#include "standard_disclaimer.h"
R.U. SIRIUS: THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESPONSE
... i'm one of those parents who has a kid and can't spend all the time i wish with my little girl. her, mom thinks ( for reasons i dont grok ) thinks she needs another job. and because of this, who will watch and spend time with my little girl? Mr. TV thats who. Mr. TV as no moralz, values, ethics, life other then that crape that seems to me to be p0rn for little people... do i like this? no. can i change how things will become? not really, the courts willn't let me have my little girl. and nether will her mom. not that i have the time. cause for some reason that i dont grok i have to go and find a master to work for. ie find a job. i'm little better off then some slave. i must work to get food, a place to live and something to wear. but i must raise my kid too...
yea, government censorship isnt a solution, it seems to me to be government babysitting. or childraiseing. if the government really whats to help me with my kid. try lowering the cost of living. and or how meny hours i need to work. then i would have the time to spend. not that i dont spend my weekends with my little girl ( this is why i havent updated my website in an year ).
Amerikkkan society seems to try to keep our children innocent for as long as they can cause they dont what to have to say they bad parents that there lives are fucked up (we live in a SNAFU!) that there seems not to be the time to be, both a parent and work, so we work to live, and end up do a shity "job" of parenting, thus why there is a wish for govenment censorship.
nmarshall
#include "standard_disclaimer.h"
R.U. SIRIUS: THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESPONSE
... weird a 'nut' removeing nuts... look ma' it's recurseive. :)
nmarshall
#include "standard_disclaimer.h"
R.U. SIRIUS: THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESPONSE
Some creationists insist ... that the Earth is flat.
but the Earth is Flat!
:)
nmarshall
#include "standard_disclaimer.h"
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...i try to be agnostic, and consider myself an upwinger... :)
nmarshall
#include "standard_disclaimer.h"
R.U. SIRIUS: THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESPONSE
anarchists anger me. they think in slogans and don't look at things logically.
dear, goddess look at the mess that the sentence is. you are generalizing. dont. not all anarchist are the same. just like not all jews are the same.
here's just one arguement for having people in charge: sewage
so a machine couldnt do this job better? and yes we could make machines that take care of other machines. so NO people would have to do anything... other then creative work. not the crated work.
nmarshall
#include "standard_disclaimer.h"
R.U. SIRIUS: THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESPONSE
..it will happen as soon as you're ready to pay for "free" Internet access for every loser who's too lazy to earn the money to buy it on his own. ... Are you going to ask the government to steal even more money... [to "pay" for net access]
... Are you going to ask the government to steal even more money... [to "pay" for net access]
lets brack this up into two points.
one.
would i be ready to pay for "free" Internet.
i think you mean, pay for those people that can't adford internet. well, IMHO "paymant" of "money" for something not produced, seems werd. that is i would like to see that if the net becomes more inportent in everyday life that it becomes a public sysvice that tax dollares "pay" for. ie everyone gets a cable in the house that the tv / computer / phone connects to. now you could pay for better / faster connection.
two
well, the government already steal's (takes money from me by force) from me to "pay" for all kinds of things i dont like. ie war's, anti-drug ad's, bio-weapons. so i dont see the diff.
if only we the people had more say there would be less horseshit in the world.... and no voting for the ether / or parties seems not to help change things.
nmarshall
#include "standard_disclaimer.h"
R.U. SIRIUS: THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESPONSE