I originally played SimCity on the C64 (1Mhz, 64Kb RAM) and loved it, in spite of the fact that it was slow and ugly. The Palm should be able to handle it...
An experiment requires a hypothesis p->q Positive test of q does not prove p, but may support it. Negative test disproves p.
So in order to scientifically test the existence of God one must first show that the existence of God implies some q. But really, in this case, our only hope for determining some q all agree on are philosophical arguments.
I don't see how physics can disprove something metaphysical in nature.
"It's not the athiests, it's the damn commies..." == "It's not the Christians, it's the damn Roman Church of the Middle Ages."
Okay? Please don't miss the point.
I'm specifically responding to this meme: "The crusades were evil, and were conducted in the name of Christianity; therefore Christianity is evil."
Which, generalized names and events, becomes: "If something evil is conducted in the name of a group of people, than that group of people is evil."
Now, that's crazy.
But if one does believe that, Christianity is evil because of the crusades, etc., and atheism is also evil, because of what the commies did in the name of atheism.
So, atheists who argue in this manner condemn themselves as well as Christians - i.e., it's a meaningless argument.
But you still argue that commies aren't TRUE atheists? Then don't complain when people say the Catholics of that era weren't TRUE Christians.
My point was that atheists often argue "all religion is bad because of the following X things so-called religious people have done:". My (poorly phrased) point was that this is as ridiculous as blaming atheism for all the bad things communists have done. If atheists choose to attack religion, please let them do so in an intelligent manner.
So, I'm glad that you basically agree with me, but I'm sorry I couldn't explain myself better. I'm not so good with words.
On the other hand, it is as easy to imagine extremism on the part of atheists as any other group. Most atheists do have strongly held views and all of the atheists I've met have been highly motivated individuals - perhaps you meant agnostics?
Crusades were about economics, the Inquisition about political power. The names and faces behind them were relatively unimportant - the slogans might as well have been "Keep religious myth out of our state!". Religious war is almost never really about religion! If I remember from History, even though the Pope kept calling for more Crusades, they stopped once there was no longer any economic incentive for having them.
Strong differences in opinion only exacerbated the situation. Atheism, usually being a strongly held opinion, is not immune to this effect. Holy wars start from the idea that one is on the side of good, fighting against evil - Christianity as I understand it says no one is good. I like that.
Well, there have been very few opportunities for atheists to slaughter people who disagree with them. They haven't been in power in very many places or for very long. However, their track history hasn't been entirely spotless - U.S.S.R. and China were never known for their - uh - wonderful humanistic policies. And grouping the rest of atheism together with them will make as much sense as grouping all Christianity together with the Crusades/Inquisition, so I don't feel too guilty in doing so.
So, just wait awhile, and when they've got more power I'm sure atheists will eventually have the opportunity to repress them wacko religious folks.
1. See big Monty Python foot. 2. Read article. 3. Laugh.
Explaining a joke never tends to go over well, but the point is a company did something irrelevant and the only person who took any notice was someone passing out fliers explaining how Clinton freely committed treason against 12 galaxies. Now that's funny!
Just because no one legitimately showed doesn't mean a victory for pirated software anyway. It could mean that pirated software isn't much of a problem (unlikely), or that vendors are already well-educated about it (very likely) and Microsoft's "public service" wasn't going to teach anyone anything anyway. If that's the case, giving out free legal copies hurts those 20000 geeks no less than piracy.
> President Clinton signed a similar order covering federal agencies a year ago.
Is this how he freely committed treason against 12 galaxies? Did he offend the intergalactic software pirates? And why are the aliens with Windows anyway? I thought they used Macs.
I remember reading somewhere (no, I don't remember! sorry) that in general, predictions are way too liberal in the short term, and far too conservative in the long term. That seems to hold true for most of the predictions in this article.
Of course, no discussion of this type can be complete without mentioning Chesteron's introduction to the Napolean of Notting Hill. And since I've mentioned it I may as well quote a passage:
"The human race, to which so many of my readers belong, has been playing at children's games from the beginning, and will probably do it till the end, which is a nuisance for the few people who grow up. And one of the games to which it is most attached is called, ``Keep tomorrow dark,'' and which is also named (by the rustics in Shropshire, I have no doubt) ``Cheat the Prophet.'' The players listen very carefully and respectfully to all that the clever men have to say about what is to happen in the next generation. The players then wait until all the clever men are dead, and bury them nicely. Then they go and do something else. That is all. For a race of simple tastes, however, it is great fun." - G. K. Chesterton
Windows is the dominating OS because Office is the dominating office suite. Split apart Windows and Office, and Office will port to rival OS'es, and Windows will have to improve so it is still the best platform on which to run Office.
The consumers therefore get more choices as to what OS to run Office on, and those choices will continue to get better as the OS'es compete for the attention of Office.
Actually, this looks viable. It's a read-only format that I suspect would be much harder to burn than the current CD and DVD; the RIAA, etc. have always been especially fond of read-only formats, since that only makes their business easier. That's a lot of the reason that CD won out, first over DAT, and then minidisc.
Since the makers of these devices would be limited to commercial entities until a public burner was developed, for someone to make a C3D with all the info you suggest on it would require licensing from all the parties involved - so even if someone did do it, it wouldn't be much cheaper than buying all of it individually. And the musicians, programmers, etc. still get all their money anyway.
is a good idea, but posters who start out at +2 should have the option of starting their post at a lower score. Heck, maybe we should let AC's score themselves -1 when they know they're not adding anything to the conversation so moderators don't have to waste points.
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No that's definately wrong.
"Hey, what OS are you running?"
"'I don't care.'"
"No, really..."
I originally played SimCity on the C64 (1Mhz, 64Kb RAM) and loved it, in spite of the fact that it was slow and ugly. The Palm should be able to handle it...
Before I get any silly responses to this:
An experiment requires a hypothesis p->q
Positive test of q does not prove p, but may support it. Negative test disproves p.
So in order to scientifically test the existence of God one must first show that the existence of God implies some q. But really, in this case, our only hope for determining some q all agree on are philosophical arguments.
I don't see how physics can disprove something metaphysical in nature.
Please propose an experiment to test the existence of God, so it can be duly added to the annals of science.
'The existence of God' is in the realm of philosophy, not science - there is a significant difference.
"It's not the athiests, it's the damn commies..." == "It's not the Christians, it's the damn Roman Church of the Middle Ages."
Okay? Please don't miss the point.
I'm specifically responding to this meme:
"The crusades were evil, and were conducted in the name of Christianity; therefore Christianity is evil."
Which, generalized names and events, becomes:
"If something evil is conducted in the name of a group of people, than that group of people is evil."
Now, that's crazy.
But if one does believe that, Christianity is evil because of the crusades, etc., and atheism is also evil, because of what the commies did in the name of atheism.
So, atheists who argue in this manner condemn themselves as well as Christians - i.e., it's a meaningless argument.
But you still argue that commies aren't TRUE atheists? Then don't complain when people say the Catholics of that era weren't TRUE Christians.
My point was that atheists often argue "all religion is bad because of the following X things so-called religious people have done:". My (poorly phrased) point was that this is as ridiculous as blaming atheism for all the bad things communists have done. If atheists choose to attack religion, please let them do so in an intelligent manner.
So, I'm glad that you basically agree with me, but I'm sorry I couldn't explain myself better. I'm not so good with words.
On the other hand, it is as easy to imagine extremism on the part of atheists as any other group. Most atheists do have strongly held views and all of the atheists I've met have been highly motivated individuals - perhaps you meant agnostics?
Crusades were about economics, the Inquisition about political power. The names and faces behind them were relatively unimportant - the slogans might as well have been "Keep religious myth out of our state!". Religious war is almost never really about religion! If I remember from History, even though the Pope kept calling for more Crusades, they stopped once there was no longer any economic incentive for having them.
Strong differences in opinion only exacerbated the situation. Atheism, usually being a strongly held opinion, is not immune to this effect. Holy wars start from the idea that one is on the side of good, fighting against evil - Christianity as I understand it says no one is good.
I like that.
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Well, there have been very few opportunities for atheists to slaughter people who disagree with them. They haven't been in power in very many places or for very long. However, their track history hasn't been entirely spotless - U.S.S.R. and China were never known for their - uh - wonderful humanistic policies. And grouping the rest of atheism together with them will make as much sense as grouping all Christianity together with the Crusades/Inquisition, so I don't feel too guilty in doing so.
So, just wait awhile, and when they've got more power I'm sure atheists will eventually have the opportunity to repress them wacko religious folks.
Hasn't anyone read the article? This is nothing new. They've answered all your objections already.
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1. See big Monty Python foot.
2. Read article.
3. Laugh.
Explaining a joke never tends to go over well, but the point is a company did something irrelevant and the only person who took any notice was someone passing out fliers explaining how Clinton freely committed treason against 12 galaxies. Now that's funny!
Just because no one legitimately showed doesn't mean a victory for pirated software anyway. It could mean that pirated software isn't much of a problem (unlikely), or that vendors are already well-educated about it (very likely) and Microsoft's "public service" wasn't going to teach anyone anything anyway. If that's the case, giving out free legal copies hurts those 20000 geeks no less than piracy.
> President Clinton signed a similar order covering federal agencies a year ago.
Is this how he freely committed treason against 12 galaxies? Did he offend the intergalactic software pirates? And why are the aliens with Windows anyway? I thought they used Macs.
I remember reading somewhere (no, I don't remember! sorry) that in general, predictions are way too liberal in the short term, and far too conservative in the long term. That seems to hold true for most of the predictions in this article.
Of course, no discussion of this type can be complete without mentioning Chesteron's introduction to the Napolean of Notting Hill. And since I've mentioned it I may as well quote a passage:
"The human race, to which so many of my readers belong, has been playing at children's games from the beginning, and will probably do it till the end, which is a nuisance for the few people who grow up. And one of the games to which it is most attached is called, ``Keep tomorrow dark,'' and which is also named (by the rustics in Shropshire, I have no doubt) ``Cheat the Prophet.'' The players listen very carefully and respectfully to all that the clever men have to say about what is to happen in the next generation. The players then wait until all the clever men are dead, and bury them nicely. Then they go and do something else. That is all. For a race of simple tastes, however, it is great fun."
- G. K. Chesterton
Windows is the dominating OS because Office is the dominating office suite. Split apart Windows and Office, and Office will port to rival OS'es, and Windows will have to improve so it is still the best platform on which to run Office.
The consumers therefore get more choices as to what OS to run Office on, and those choices will continue to get better as the OS'es compete for the attention of Office.
titanic - with all the word's positive and negative connotations
Actually, this looks viable. It's a read-only format that I suspect would be much harder to burn than the current CD and DVD; the RIAA, etc. have always been especially fond of read-only formats, since that only makes their business easier. That's a lot of the reason that CD won out, first over DAT, and then minidisc.
Since the makers of these devices would be limited to commercial entities until a public burner was developed, for someone to make a C3D with all the info you suggest on it would require licensing from all the parties involved - so even if someone did do it, it wouldn't be much cheaper than buying all of it individually. And the musicians, programmers, etc. still get all their money anyway.
is a good idea, but posters who start out at +2 should have the option of starting their post at a lower score. Heck, maybe we should let AC's score themselves -1 when they know they're not adding anything to the conversation so moderators don't have to waste points.
That URL worked for me without any trouble at all. Maybe the site is licensed to certain IP's?
Commodore's BASIC was a Microsoft product.