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Itani-what?: Merced is Renamed
Anonymous Freak writes "Well, Intel has finally decided on a name for the first IA-64 processor. The processor formerly known as Merced is now called "Itanium". Boy, and I thought "Pentium" was a silly name when it first came out." Itanium - the mind boggles. Forget this - I'm still calling it Merced - although Itanium is targeted "at the Internet Economy" according to the press release *gag*.
I just read snowcrash for the first time last night, and I'm already seeing it's characters wherever i look.
Was your phase 1/phase 2 a reference to the mafia on the boat, or something completely unrelated?
You know how this name happened, btw. Some moron just misspelled the name of a lightweight metal.
- A.P.
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Silly me. I thought Sparcs and Alphas were the Internet processors. I mean, don't most of the 'real' websites run on them?
Well bell my cat - it was Intel all along!
Gawd, how much did Intel pay a marketing company for that clunker of a name?
- -Josh Turiel
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"2. Do not eat iPod Shuffle."
Well the problem with this is the '586' was the pentium and MMX pentium, the Ppro,PII,PIII,celery,Xeon,etc.. are the 686.
"So, like, these new 'puters are really light cause they're made outta titanium, right? I don't want no heavy computers...they'll be too slow"
Something Jar-jar binks might say!
"throatwobbler mangrove"
(You're a very silly corporation and I'm not going to interview you!" "Oh please?")
AMD's K7 had pretty good buzz, and was still renamed at the last minute to the moronic "Athlon". I think that they are required to have a marketing that's different from the internal project name. If they used the same name, the marketing guys wouldn't earn a paycheck and us nerd folks wouldn't be confused enough.
-Barry
so i suppose you would be pronouncing it incorrectly (if you don't believe me, just look in a dictionary!
The Wonderful Wankometer rates the press release as having a considerable wank quotient.
Boy Itanium food is sure good especially spagetium and meatballium!! And I must say there sure are some nice looking itanium women!! Blade
They were posted 7 minutes apart probably at diffrent locations .. Give em a break ! (Plus the first one was taken off of the main page)
New poll:
What will the slang for the "Itanium" be:
1)Spitanium
2)Shitanium
3)zitanium
4)Itanic
5)xIum, *Ium
6)Look at her Its!!
7)What's an Ium??
I looked all over the Intel press releases, and have yet to find a corporate sponsored pronunciation for the 'Itanium'. So here are a few of my suggestions.
1. Titanicium
2. Itty-bittium
3. Icantium
4. iWhackium
5. Inferorium
6. I'm sorry!
7. Yes, we are on something!
8. Merced
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I would love to hear the reactions of the Intel engineers to this lame new name by the engineers who created Merced. After three years, I still can't get used to any of the names that marketing has applied to my product.
and Andy Grove, in another fit of drunkenness, has them make it so.
"Wait, no, Andy, it was just a dumb scribble! No, we can't put Superman in the ads, either!!" ...
"muinati" - much classier.
Or, with a bit of help from an anagram generator:
mini tau
I am unit
Hmmm... the first sounds like it's from Austin Powers, the second from Star Trek.
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It's October 6th. Where's W2K? Over the horizon again, eh?
Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
Itanium should remind everybody to Incontinentium
unobtanium - cause you cant get one
vaporium - cause it is all just hot air
subathlonium - cause even with the extra 32 bits, it is still slower than athlon
bankruptium - what it is gonna do for intel
The difference between Theory and Practice is greater in Practice than in Theory.
Intel Itanium =
Mutant Line II
Lame Unit In I.T.
The Intel Itanium =
Intent: Humiliate
Hate me until in I.T.
The fact that it sounds somewhat like some obscure sort of "rare earth" metal is likely good for Intel; they can have some e1eete k001 commercials involving glowing metallic substances, not unlike one of Nokia's latest that shows off a chrome-bright cell phone rather than those boring old black ones. Itanium can provide us the burning chrome approach...
This also provides a natural progression towards jokes involving the Hacker's Dictionary definition for "Chrome" which caused great hilarity when Microsoft announced Microsoft Chrome which not only conformed to the "useless but pretty" definition of Chrome, but actually used the same word to describe it. In effect, Itanium is Really Fancy Chrome!
It's a nice bonus that the name leaves it to minor modifications of a scatalogical nature so as to allow Further Jokes. If the chip is rectangular, the next PPC commercial will doubtless show off a burned-up shrivelled-up, brown Itanium chip, leaving any comparisons to other materials to be filled in by the viewer...
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
All right. You'd think the marketing genii would have put a link to a .wav or something with the pronunciation of their new marketing jewel. [Not that Linus' .wav file has cleared up any confusion.]
Now, is it I'-ta'-nee-um or i-ta'-nee-um? Or wait... could there be a schwa sound at the front? Why don't I have a key for an upside down e? If it was so damn important that they had to bug the sh*t out of me in elementary school, why isn't there a key for it when I want to use or discuss it? [If someone brings up alternative keyboards I'll begin firing my BFG indiscriminately into the crowd here at the post office.]
_damnit_
_damnit_
It's my job to freeze you. -- Logan's Run
To all boardmembers, we apologize for the East Wing's mistake of re-naming the Merced chip to simply Itanium to cash in on the internet craze. We here in the Intel Marketing Dept. of the West Wing are always glad to wallop our cross-building rivals and have come up with a more powerful, consistent name with the internet that is sure to one-up their name. We want to re-name the Itanium to Itanium.com which is sure to generate ten times more profit as anything with .com attached to it usually does. Thank you for your support.
looks like an o2 to me...
Try doing a domain name search on "gwbush" or "bush", etc. There are just too many variations on "xxx-sucks", "xxxblows.com", etc. to make much of a dent by registering anything.
---- "If we have to go on with these damned quantum jumps, then I'm sorry that I ever got involved" - Erwin Schrodinger
In fairness, It's possible he took 7min to type it up.
Itchium and Scratchium are next?
Edith Keeler Must Die
Nope, it's Oneon!
---- "If we have to go on with these damned quantum jumps, then I'm sorry that I ever got involved" - Erwin Schrodinger
I think it's a newly discovered highly radioactive element. Naturally, heavy elements of this sort are highly unstable and will decay in a matter of nanoseconds at best.
Perhaps it really is a fitting name for this new chip after all?
-CausticPuppy "Of all the people I know, you're certainly one of them." -Somebody I don't know
With all the problems Intel has been having a name more like Unobtanium would be more suiting
Or in this case, what's left out - namely the "T" from (t)Itanium. Talk about your feelings of inadequacy... -deano
You know what is weird, I keep wanting to pronounce this name "Italium". Is this just me or is anyone else having this problem?
I think someone at Intel watched the South Park "Pane'arium" episode too many times.
Itanium? Titanium? It offers the deprecatory "sh" prefix, all too easily.
I am going to say, Pent in Pentium means five for 586. What does itanium mean? Are they making a 80x1086 CPU or something? Blagh ... someone find out the meaning of Itan please ...
I ntel
T ries
A lternate
N ame --
I t's
U nbelievable
M arketing!
Other bad future CPU names:
;-)
12. Igermanium (for use in greenhouses, or for people in Berlin)
11. Ifrancium (because the French like to be incompatible with everybody)
10. Iboronium (for people who speak in a monotone)
9. Iluminum (for people who are convinced they are highly intelligent)
8. Isiliconium (for women
7. Iargonium (for people with really bad grammar)
6. Iscandium (for use by reporters)
5. Iironium (for your health, or for use while doing the laundry)
4. Ikryptonium (for sci-fi fanatics, or for deciphering messages)
3. IHoSilverium (for Lone Ranger fans)
2. Iridium (name available again now that the satellite system went under)
1. Iranium (faulty product for sale to countries we don't like)
I would have thought the name 'Pentium' was a fairly obvious name. 'Pent' meaning '5' standing for the generation of 586 processors. The ium is something that gave it a "nice" ring. Silly ? I'm not so sure about that.
With the naming of this new chip as "Itanium" we now have proof that Intel is in league with the mafia. I suspect the next IA-64 chip following Itanium will be named "Sicilium"
that not the second version (called McKinley), as recently suggested, is now hoped to be the breakthrough for the IA64 design, but the third, which would carry the oh-so-spectacular name "Tritanium". :-)
"I love my job, but I hate talking to people like you" (Freddie Mercury)
% whois itanium.com
...
Registrant:
Intel Corporation (ITANIUM-DOM)
2200 Mission College Blvd
M/S SC4-203
Santa Clara, CA 95052-8119
Domain Name: ITANIUM.COM
... snip
Record last updated on 01-Oct-98.
Record created on 01-Oct-98.
Record created 01-Oct-98? Have they really been planning on naming the ship "itanium" for ONE YEAR? You would have thought that they would have been able to come up with a better name in a *year's* time. Or at least though better of it...
Ack.
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Chuck
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All of the names are messed up. Check out some maps of CA, AZ, and WA. Most of the names are towns, cities, or rivers.
Does anyone else think that Octanium would have sounded really cool. I'm not a big fan of Intel and I think we should ditch the Merced for Alphas, but Octanium just sounds powerfull, doesn't it? Almost like a hotrod. This may be the most important decision for Intel's marketing department in years, and they probably have a whole team of people on it, and Itanium sounds dumb, and that's the best the could come up with, but you gotta give them credit for not naming the thing Pentium 2000. That would have been really great.
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(i786? Wouldn't that be Willamette? The Pentium III, and the Xeon Warrior Princess flavors of the PII/PIII, are based on the same P6 CPU core, so I'd think of them as i686's.)
I suspect Intel decided to use Pentium as the brand name for (all but the lower-end) IA-32 processors, preserving brand equity or whatever the hell the marketoon term is; I wouldn't be surprised to see McKinley be the Itanium II or something such as that.
Itanium is way to close to Titanic for comfort... High-tech equilvalent to freudian slip? Could Intel be prophesizing it's own doom? Is this an Omen?
That name would be a true bomb !
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How do you pronouce that anyway? I always pronounce as murked (i.e. the past tense of murk), but I've heard mur-said, murk-ed, mur-ked, murk-id, mur-sid...
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WTF is the "Internet Economy" and how do you "target" a chip at it?
Hmmm... Internet Economy... well, let's see. What does a normal computer chip do that you don't need to stare at webpages? Hmmm... Floating point math! This is clearly just a marketing doublespeak way of saying:
Sort of like a Pentium.Even more interesting is going to be the Intel marketing. How does one market such a wretched sounding name? Are they planning on selling this as a mixture of the Internet and the Pentium? Well, geeh, that's great. As if the Pentium did not already have enough privacy problems.
Hmmm... Now all they need is a nice jingle...
Lacking germanium, we made it out of wild geranium,
Nullifying your privacy to a symposium!
Itanium, it sounds like titanium!
Itanium, it's less stable than uranium!
Itanium, the only chip built in a gymnasium,
Sending it strait to a crematorium!
Itanium, it sounds like titanium!
Itanium, it's less stable than uranium!
Itanium, it's giving our lawyers a honorarium,
You'd rather have Cryptosporidium!
Itanium, it sounds like titanium!
Itanium, it's less stable than uranium!
I would love to see that on an Intel commercial!
It's "Titanium" you fools }};-)
or is a dropped T the result of passing the string through some of intel's processors?
And I really was waiting for Intel to release the "sextium" (follows from Pentium).
T R O N.
or how about the one without heatsink
I R O N
or the cheep version
D R O Ne
or the sexy version
P R O N
or one for idiots
M R O N
or one for unix
C R O N
and one for the kids
D E C E P T O R C O N
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But this new one has an extra syllable, and doesnt flow as smoothly as Pentium did. Besides, 'Merced' has been used for so long, I think a lot of people will continue to call it that. Merced also isn't just a number, which will help keep the name around a bit longer.
Apple was first with the iMac. Everyone else just copied the idea, as per usual. And iMac makes a hell of a lot more sense than Itanium.
ludicronym, n. - A ludicrous nonsense name given to a product for marketing purposes.
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It's October 6th. Where's W2K? Over the horizon again, eh?
Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
You're all missing the point. The story was posted in 3-D Stereo, but you need an Itanium chip and special glasses to view it correctly.
---- "If we have to go on with these damned quantum jumps, then I'm sorry that I ever got involved" - Erwin Schrodinger
It is well known in marketing that the general public can only count to three, a great example is Microsoft renaming Windows 4.0 to Windows 93, hm I mean 94, nope, sorry for the delay make that Windows 95.
OFL
Yeah, yeah.. this is redundant, off topic, and all that jazz. But, I feel compelled to reply.
My first reaction to the thing was, "Intel has totally given up on marketing on the basis of quality, and value to the customer. What they're now doing is marketing on the basis of the *ignorance* of their new target market."
Oh yeah, and I have a PPro 180 oc'ed to 233. My last intel processor ever, hopefully. The only things that don't run fast enough are certain games. (Remember when games used to be the *most* optimized programs out there?)
When did intel produce a 7th generation?
Pentium 2, and Pentium 2 Xeon, are the same as a Pentium Pro, only with MMX instructions, and more (and in some cases slower) cache.
Pentium 3 is the same as a Pentium 2, only with more new instructions, added to combat 3DNow
Compare this with the differences between the 486 and the Pentium, or between the Pentium and the Pentium Pro. Now, *those* were significant enough to call them new generations.
What could possably be worse than version-number-racing?!? uh... oh.
LINUX stands for: Linux Inux Nux Ux X
FRA: STFU GTFO
Once upon a time school administrators preached the gospel of "you can never go wrong with IBM". First they resisted PCs in favor of their mainframes, then they resisted non-IBM PCs. They gave variation of the same reasons you mention. They dumped huge piles of scarce money at the doors of Big Blue. They continued to do this while systems costing half as much and twice as capable were available. Meanwhile the students they were supposedly there to serve were lined up to use the scarce computers.
Administrators who waste money like this should be fired.
School administrators frightened of learning something new have no business working in a school, where people are supposed to be all about learining new things.
And furthermore, AMD CPUs are hardly "hacker hardware" (in the sense you mean). They're fast and inexpensive, a good bang for the buck. This leaves more money to buy other "hacker hardware". You know, more computers for those pesky students you're supposed to be helping!
Adapt or move aside, but don't hold everyone else back just because you're afraid of change.
The logical successor to the Pentium to compete with the K7 would be the Septium. If you overclocked one, you'd have a deviated Septium.
Changes aren't permanent, but change is.
I think one of the chief marketing people at intel has a hearing deficit and can't quite catch all of those conversations around the water cooler.
Either that, or intel's PHBs are running their spell-checkers on their new chip prototypes.
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2006: Intel release Viagrium. A overdrive for the Titanium II that gives more power to the processor, and improves stability, helping it 'stay up' longer....
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They haven't registered sexium.com, .net, .org yet?
sup
I really can't stand those atrociously inane commercials intel has been putting on. You really have to be brain dead to not balk at them. Really...your chip is going to help me not only get ON the internet, but IN it. Wow that's great. Can I have another shot of ignorance please. Wait, maybe if my CPU is fast it will make MY internet (which I am IN) FASTER! This is too cool I guess I don't even need a modem or NIC now...since the PIII will get me in the internet. I wonder if I need an ISP.
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Both Intel and AMD obviously had the same idea regarding their next generation chips.
Bitanium vs. Biathlon
Tritanium vs. Triathlon
For some reason I'm not impressed.
Gee. I was stuck calling it the 586 until AMD released their 5x86, at which time most of the people I knew started calling it by the proper names, P54C and P54D. After a week of trying to say five-ex-eighty-six-one-thirty-three and laughing every damn time, I finally gave up and started referring to them as the AMD 133. (much more lyric, much like P54C-133 and P54D-233)
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Barrons had an interesting piece on Intel this week, entitled "Intel NOT Inside."
In that article as well, Intel claimed that it was targeting the internet economy. The implied reasoning was that the profit ratio is about the same on the $500 chips as the $100 Celeron, so they're about five times as lucrative. The article estimates that one server-class machine is needed for every ten consumer machines on the Internet.
If consumer hardware is getting cheaper while server hardware is staying steady or even advancing in cost, we can see where the safe money's going to be for Intel.
Given the above, and the article's further declaration that Intel has already made/is trying to make further inroads into the embedded controller market where switches, hubs, etc are concerned, we can determine that Internet Economy is obscure jargon for the Internet server and networking hardware market.
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My question for Intel is whether it's prudent to explicitly remove emphasis from lower end systems (if that's what they truly intend). By Intel's admission, the $100 chips still make the same percentage profit. Wouldn't it make more sense to get on the ball and start pushing Microsoft and game developers to make use of SMP in consumer products, and to then push its low-end SMP-capable processors?
Imagine the benefit to Intel (and us) if they let companies continue to make these sub-$1000-PCs, but if each had 3 spaces free for candy-colored $200 cartridge with another processor and a bit of RAM inside. Average consumers can finally buy that PC that lasts them 5 years, and Intel still gets (eventually) the full price of a server-class chip when people finally upgrade. (And I'll wager quite a few will if they can do it in sub $200 increments!)
Scary... but sensible too.
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I personally like to call the Celeron processor the `Celery' processor (because it's weak and crappy when compared to the overpriced Pentium II/III processors). The `Peon' processors are even more expensive (sheesh!).
:)
Merced is too little, too late. I already have bids on a DEC Alpha 750Mhz processor running on FreeBSD
Itanium reminds me Volkswagen's "Turbonium", which despite Intel's best effort, is still much stupider.
I don't know what's worse... Volkswagen advertising its new car by showing it spinning like a top or Intel advertising a computer chip as making the Internet better, as if moire processing speed means better bandwidth (or disk I/O, which we all know is the real performance bottleneck!)
Marketing seems to be getting stupider and stupider.
Rick (happy with a 200MHz PPro)
You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.
At least they aren't calling it the Sextium.
It will probably stink and sink like the ?itanic (both the ship and the movie). I just hope In-hell does go out and make their theme sounds more annoying as it is already (not quite as annoying as `My Fart Will Go On...and on..)
itanium. ecause e ike o rop he irst etter ff ords.
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I used to work for intel, once upon a time, at Jones Farm in Oregon - they do a lot of marketing and software development work there - and you guys are missing the point. The real reason for these fancy names and internet crapola which is so obviously false is that Intel is HORRIBLY HORRIBILY worried that people aren't going to buy their latest offerings.
Why? Well, it turns out that some of the droids at intel know that you probably don't need much more than a Pentium 233 running a really rich bus with a nice 3D card for 99% of PC applications - and certainly, about 99% of their sales.
By hyping the internet, people will assume their "old" machines aren't good enough, and go that way. Too bad more people don't put emhasis on bus architecture and offboard specialty processing - look at the machines that use this design philosophy (Amiga, Nintendo, PSX..) and you can see some of the amazing results that be be obtained on crappy hardware.
But to each their own. Linux might let us get rid of some of this dependance on miserable architectures.
I know; I'm writing this on a P100 with 256 Megs of ram, running linux, and it rips. My Sony Vaio with 64 megs of ram and a p233 is overkill for the road.. I've gotten *six* years out of this machine, although I'll have to look at a new one 'cause parts are starting to fail.
Save your money on the processors and get kick ass video cards, huge monitors, and massive HDs - and take a look at what you *really* need.
Mind you, I shouldn't preach too much, 'cause I dump all my cash into my car instead. YMMV.
AC
Oh great, now we're gonna have another holy war to keep track of.
On one side, there will be the people who prefer to pronounce Itanium with a long a (like in "pay"), and on the other those who prefer a short a (like in "mad").
Of course, the guy who invented the name won't be able to help, as he will prefer pronouncing the a as "ah", which everyone else will refuse to do because it sounds silly.
-Kenton Varda
Yeah, welcome to the Web Outfitter Service. Stand over here & bend over. That's the real meaning of Intel Inside.
Okay... I know mine aren't the oldest, but here goes: My main web surfing computer at home is a Macintosh Plus. 1MB of RAM, an external 30MB HD. I also use an SE/30 for web surfing. (I even have a slashdot account just for reading on them. I set it up so I could save the "lite, text only" version of slashdot.) And then there are the others: Atari ST, Commodore 64, TRS-80, Amiga 500, Apple ][e, Macintosh SE, IBM PC, IBM PC/XT, IBM PS/2 P70 (suitcase 386 with gas plasma display), Leading Edge Model 'D' (one of the first desktop clones.) Then there are the recent computers: Dual Pentium II/333, Celeron 466, K6-2/300, 486/100, PowerBook 5300c. All of the computers other than the PS/2 P70 are fully functional. The PS/2 forgot its configuration settings, and its floppy drive is broken. (It doesn't have a BIOS setup program, you have to boot from a special floppy disk, so I'm screwed until I repair the floppy.) Plus, spare parts: a couple pentium motherboards, a bunch of old processors, some spare ISA and PCI cards, some old 72-pin SIMMs. And a Palm V. And an HP 48GX. (I've surfed the web with it!) Whew! Did I miss anything? Now I just need to get ahold of that Intellivision Computer System...
Another non-functioning site was "uncertainty.microsoft.com."
The purpose of that site was not known.
It's Latinum... and you call yourself a trekky... bah
Phase5 here, looking for Robs idiotic spelling/grammer errors. Oh what fun!
'?itanic the movie' grossed more money than any film in history, with ticket sales only slightly less than Gone With the Wind. By your analogy Intel's in line for a winner.
...anyway, who cares, Intel is sinking like that huge ship (what was its name...?)
Perhaps, after that recent bug discovery, Intel should also rename Xeon to Xeonic...
The Carroton will also be offered with an fan that clips over it, called the Carrotop.
How about Sexium, Sexium Pro, Sexium II, Sexium III? Hell lot better than Itanium :)
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CPU nomenclature should revert to numbers and acronyms--there's just something that feels good about the words "SPARC" or "486DX2," for example.
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Strange name, although I must admit i'm glad they didn't pick something like itanic instead.
- MbM
- MbM
Ooh Boy,
the mind reels with potential Shakespearean references, here. I wonder if the next generation will be called the "Oberon"? Or if they will just cut the crap and show us their "Bottom"
Or will they market this turkey with a "DS9" flair as a Ferengi invention and expect people to bid on 'em with bars of Latanum.
I'm getting a G4 chip based box and I'll have gigaflop rather than a marketing-flop.
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I think it's a marketing thing to change the name. People have heard the name "Merced" for years now and it keeps getting delayed. The only way to rekindle interest in the product is to change the name in hope that people will think it's something new and forget about all the delays with the original named product.
- Kate
"DNA is life. The rest is just translation."
"with the new Itanium 64 bit you can ever more enjoy you pron site surfing: Itanium 64, the viagra of the processors."
"The obvious mathematical breakthrough would be development of an easy way to factor large prime numbers." Bill Gates,
Sounds like the name of a new club in the 2000 Callaway line of clubs.....
I guess intel is trying to convice the big companies that run Sun and DEC hardware that they are major players when in comes to the incredibly high end internet servers. Most of these companies don't even consider intel an option at all when purchasing servers.
For example: Recently I applied for a job at PlanetRX.com being one of their AIX admins. When I went into the interview they told me right off the bat that they aren't interested in any wINTEL or MAC experience. They didn't want MCSE(D). They wanted pure sun hardware experience with an expert knowledge of AIX and Solaris.
I guess intel is realizing that they aren't being shown as a big server processor making company, and that they have to come up with buzz words and say things like they are the "Intel in Intelligent Ecommerce"
I'd rather play with something more innovative like Amoeba anyway.
Since when does the P3 cost $800? I spent $800 this summer to get a P3, new motherboard, and 256M of RAM. Granted, it's a P3-450, but it's pretty darn fast in my book. I don't even turn on the K6-3 much anymore.
It's just a matter of time until Intel starts making processors with a built-in lifespan limiting "feature" such that after a predetermined amount of cpu cycles, the chip becomes "used up" and must be replaced. Kinda like the little jewels in everyone's palm in the movie "Logan's Run" that let you know when your predetermined lifespan is over with and you must go in for "renewal" :-/ If AMD and others can't keep the competition going, then I wouldn't put it past Intel to start making suicide-committing processors for the consumer market. -- Lorky
I'd vote against any school administrator who let the IT staff buy odd third-party computer components. Hacker hardware belongs on the desk of hackers. Infrastructure for schools needs to be standardized and robust. And it has to last for years.
Who knows what's going to happen with the rare-bird AMD parts? It's clear that the Intel parts will be around.
Seems like it might be a better name for the chip formerly known a Merced. Unless performance improves dramatically it is going to look like the ~1994 comparison of the PPC and the P6. Isn't AMD going to bring out the K8 next year at 64bits?
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Aaron
I'll bet it cost Intel several million $ to come up with that name. I read somewhere (don't ask me where) that Intel spend a million bucks for for someone to come up with Pentium. Maybe they should take some of the marketing budget and give it to engineering so they can make a chip that can add properly. (tounge in cheek!)
You really do need to get out more often. Look at your username and your sig. Do you really care that much? Sheesh. How big a deal is it? -j
(Score:0 (off topic)) A story so good they decided to post it twice? It IS a slow news day anyways..
Scared me for a little bit. It's still dumb to "announce" it twice on Slashdot.
Other Slashdot Itanium article
~afniv
"Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
~afniv
"Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
Richard von Weizs
I used to read Slashdot because it told me things I didn't already know. Then I read because it gave me new viewpoints on existing knowledge. I am now entering phase 3: laughing at cluelessness.
/., then go elsewhere, where you can learn more. That would be a better use of your time and of those who do glean some useful information from these pages.
Well, thanks so much. Your post certainly doesnt do Phase 1, nor Phase 2. It countributes to Phase 3, for other people. I think you are in Phase 4: Wasting others time by such foolishly arrogant posts. If you aren't enjoying your time at
Moderator, this is a flame, not flamebait.
IMNSHO, it was justified.
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Sometimes, when I'm feelin' bored, I like to take a necrotic equine and assault it physically.
-- Ed Avis ed@membled.com
Knowing Intel, the Merceded, or Ita-whatever, will most likely only run on proproetary Intel motherboards(similarly as plans for the Celeron)...
Another thing you have to consider is cost... If the P3 is a consumer chip and it costs $800, how much will this "Internet Chip" cost? You could probably get an entire AMD-based system for the cost of one Mercedes chip.
Will it actually be worth it? Or will it be another chip the Intel cranks out, and they know people will buy it because they're Intel, and they're "the best".
we have it even worse, i think. I mean, merced is a better name than "iambic pentameter" or whatever it's called now, but look at us: we had "altivec" renamed to "velocity engine". and the lameness difference with the new Altivec name is worse than the lameness of the new Merced name, if you ask em.
On the other hand, at least apple stopped with coming up with a silly name, whereas Intel also came up with a silly function. See, the "velocity engine" is marketed as a vector-processing unit, which is actually what it is. Wheras the Itanium or whatever is being marketed as something that "will make the internet more fun", whereas as far as i can tell it is some kind of processor.
Oh, wait a minute, i'm sorry-- apple's done the same thing. I just checked www.apple.com, where it says that the Velocity Engine in the G4 "causes weight loss". This must be the "corporate rebranding" appleinsider was talking about.
-mcc-baka
...Because we lied though our teef and are trying to evade false advertisement. Please accept our crappy 'webware' which is based off of third pary software. Which also works on any processor that is 486 and better. Pentium III, don't just get on the internet, get into it.
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Stupid Intel and their lies...:)
Don't forget the letter "E" as in e-mail, e-business, e-commerce.
On the other hand, please forget all about "V" as in v-chip.
"Pentium" I kind of like as a name, but Itanium? It doesn't quite roll off the tongue. I guess I understand AMD thinking "K7" isn't a very marketable name, but "Merced" sounds pretty snappy to me. I guess marketing has convinced them that they *have* to make up a name for their products to avoid trademark hassles.
pity. Not that I like Intel much, but...pity.
--Lenny
Your Servant, B. Baggins
Weak and crappy? I haven't noticed any difference whatsoever between my Celeron 466 and a PII-450 except a massive price difference. Course, all I use that machine for is games and Win98, which of course, FreeBSD sucks for anyway. My PPro-150 is more than powerful enough to run Linux on at a more than reasonable speed.
And yet the intel-zombies *cough*my school's network administraitor*cough* refuse to buy anything but Intel.
What do you mean, silly name? After the disasterous delays and the entire rambus bruhaha, it's only appropriate that they choose a name with immediate connotations to the world's most famous shipwreck.
"The good die first." "Most of us are morally ambiguous, which explains our random dying patterns." --- MST3K
Well, Intel has sure kept me entertained for the past 5 years, I'll give them that. Whooo ha ha ha ha ha!
"The number of suckers born each minute doubles every 18 months."
These are my friends, See how they glisten. See this one shine, how he smiles in the light.
I vote for ICan'tium when inevitable the bugs are discovered... ;)
Sigh.
This word will be written a billion billions time over the next decade.
If Intel could have just made a word that was one or two characters shorter, think of the forests that would have been saved, both in paper saved and the fuel used to provide the bandwidth for tranmiting Itanium Itanium Itanium
How's this, Intel is so insane about knowing who makes the CPU inside the computer (hense the unwanted intelinside sticker on my laptop).
Why not call it the:
Intel7
Denoting 7th generation intel cpu?
Can't have a problem protecting the rights (as they did with 486), Intel must be one of the most protected trademarks in the business, plus there would be no doubt who makes the CPU.
Intel, you can send the $1,000,000 USD for this idea to trikster2@hotmail.com
In a year go ask your grandma, who makes an athalon or Itanium and I'm sure she'll have no clue, now an Intel7 OTH even my great grand ma could figure out who makes it....
Plus most of all, at one leter shorter than Itanium, millions of trees, and perhaps the future, would be saved!
Fittingly enough, I notice the press release was moronized. Uck.
I hope they keep with the vegetable names.
They are much more appropriate than fake elements.
One thing's for sure, "Itanium" sticks out. It's so bizarre that it *has* to become a household word, which is exactly what intel wants.
I think I can extrapolate some future Intel chip names based on their previous track record:
2002: The Itanium II is introduced, with new AMI (Advanced Marketing Instructions) Technology(tm)
late 2002: A low-cost version of the Itanium core comes out, called either "Asparagon" or "Vidalion"
2004: Itanium III (duh)
late 2005: Intel's first 128-bit CPU is announced, which will be named Delirium.
-CausticPuppy "Of all the people I know, you're certainly one of them." -Somebody I don't know
Everyone knows Pentium.. why else did we get Pentium Pro, Pentium II, and Pentium III? Marketting. Celeron and Xeon went over badly, and AMD's Athlon.. who knows. Another Pentium would have been pitiful, but...
I remember when I first heard of Merced, back when Intel was hinting at the MMX instructions on the P5 cpu (Intel was extremely skimish on details for any projects, and I had no idea what the new instructions (then unnamed) were for). They had also mentioned a new chip code named Mercury.. that's all Intel would release (and this was a news section for users, but especially press I gather). Merced is.. well.. known. Far more than the K7 was, and at least Athlon sounds a bit interesting.
Renaiming Merced, one that I'm sure most people will dislike, just costed Intel a lot of $$$.
"Open Source?" - Press any key to continue
Actually, the Hemos story is longer, it probably took him 10 minutes to come up with the witty comment.
Time to hack a perl script that can randomly generate
"boy I thought to_be_replaced1 was silly";
"Mmmm, Slashdot hasn't had a offcal to_be_replaced2 yet "
"back when I was in the army, we have to to_be_replaced_by_roblimo"
:)
CY
After the incredibly annoying You-Must-Have-A-Pentium-III-To-Enjoy-The-Internet (despite your inability to actually find any sites that look even remotely as processor intensive as the ones in the commercial, that looked more like CAD/CAM), can you imagine the advertisements for the Intanium, which is NAMED after the darned network?
"Intanium: This One Will Actually Enhance Your Internet Experience, Honestly!"
"Intanium: If You Thought The 32-Bit Internet Was Great, Wait Until You See The 64-Bit Internet!"
"Intanium: Databases Will Commit Transactions Like Never Before."
You do have to look at it from Intel Marketing's point of view... how do you hype "Do Things Faster" when that's been your line for the last 20 years and is, apparently, wearing thin with the management.
Still, I can think of a campaign targetting the slashdot crowd that would work well:
"Intanium: Have A Computer More Powerful Then Most Servers You Visit!"
Now that, that just sings to me, baby!
Talk about the "right-hand-may-not-know-what-the-left-hand-is-doi ng-dept."...
Your comment : "I'm still calling it Merced" sounds a bit like deja vu to me, since when they called it pentium, it seemed like a big revolution, and many analysts as well as 'industry pundits', said everyone would still call it the 586 !
Everyone says pentium today, and just like Slashdot posts, History is repeating itself, isn't it ?
Shouldn't that be "iTanium"?
As far as the PIII comment, I agree that nothing out there requires the horsepower of the PIII, but I think I've heard of sites out there (java applets perhaps?) that actually check to see if you're using a PIII, and won't let you run it if you aren't.
intelsucks.net
intelsucks.org
xeonisslow.com
xeonisslow.net
xeonisslow.org
mmxsucks.com
etc...
etc...
I though I heard it was a trend of company's to register their name or product and sucks as in "xxxsucks.com" if only to not let other people take those sights and do something with them.
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By the way, if you moderate me down, you obviously have no sense of self... or humor....
...my pants.
We should have a contest like Dell did, where we do a survey and find out just which regular /. reader uses the most archaic machine as their main "work horse"... The winner (or loser, in this case) would recieve like 100 andover.net shares so they could go get a new machine. :)
... so i'm probably not a contender, but i'd consider downgrading to a 386 if that's what it takes...
I've a lowly P200MMX, 64 Megs RAM, 3 GB Hard Drive,
Parts? This isn't a '63 Falcon... It breaks, you replace it. By the time anything going to fry, its obsolete no matter who made it.
It's straight out of Voyager...
"Captain Janeway, we have no choice but to go around this solar system, it is contaminated with dangerous levels of itanium radiation from the Moron's toxic waste dump."
"No, Seven, that would add days to our trip back home. We can enhance the shields with that alien technology we conveniently picked up at the Spinwise Central Delta Quadrant trade show and job fair last week."
"That is efficient, but is the level of risk acceptable?"
"What's the worst that can happen? If the shields fail we'll have an excuse for the writers to forget about it in future episodes. At worst we'll lose a shuttle craft and a couple of extras."
"Very well, I will connect the alien technology to our deflector grid. It should only take a few hours despite the fact that we have no interfaces or protocols in common."
It an ium? Is an "ium" an english literature term for redundancy? I think it is. If it isn't, I'll be calling Webster next Monday. Dammit... looks like I owe my friend $20... We had a bet to see who would be the first to come out with the least logistical public display of ignorance. Wait.. Intel... Bill Gates.. perfectly logical... I win.
on the sixth day God created man.
on the seventh day, man returned the favor.
The K7 is kicking the P-III on every benchmark I've seen (no surprise, it's a next generation chip), but AMD has plans for a 1ghz chip by next year (so the rumor mill says). I've seen K7 systems for $1200 . . . if people get over the must-have-intel-zombieisim, AMD could HAVE the home market. Even the K6-3 (though lacking in floating point processing so the 3d rendering was a little slower) is worlds above Intel's Celery throw-away chips.
May the gods of marketing be kind.
Bad things often happen to good people,
It is up to them to see that they remain good.
This is the same strategy apple used when naming it's Imac. Silly, yes. And boy does it result in some stupid sounding names (like itanium), but it seems to be working at attracting their target market.
-rainfa1l@happypuppy.com
I'm surprised they didn't go with eTaninum ....
Completed in the year 1999, the good chip Itanium set sail for the new world. They said it couldn't crash, that new technology made it invincible.
However, late one night the ill-fated CPU struck a large 32-bit instruction floating somewhere in the "Internet information economy" which ripped a large hole in her stack and damaged her bus. With the cache on fire, the order was made to abandon chip.
Luckily a nearby chip, the SS Athlon was able to support all of the Itanium's users and no lives were lost.
Except for that damn Leo DiCaprio who exploded.
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