I talked to John Carmack at the past Macworld Expo. He said if we get certain components like OpenGL ported to LinuxPPC, it might be possible.
He's worried that the other smaller Linuxes (SPARC, Alpha) would then start demanding it. That would be the classic "Well if we let the PowerPC people have it, we're going to let the rest of the class have it" argument.;)
Our next hardware donations are going to be a Blue G3 to the kernel guys to get those running, and a fast Power Mac to a Glide developer to get that ported.
This looks like a Good Thing to me. There's too many trade shows now! Macworld Expo (Jan/Aug), Linuxworld (March, and a second one planned later in the year!), Bazaar (July), ALS (October), LinuxExpo (May)... argh!
I'm seriously thinking about writing something about that. Essay-style. Lay the Haas-FU down on it.
Maybe we could leave our gear at the Javitz Center if it's late enough in July. The Macworld Expo will probably be there a few weeks after the Bazaar ends. That would be good for us, not having to ship our gear to the same city twice.
When I was a sysadmin, I decided to do a little Y2K analysis for my company, who was trying very hard to avoid the subject. So I forced the issue. (My boss wasn't happy about that. That should tell you a lot about the culture of this company..)
ANYway.. I went to a lot of companies web sites, and read up. Most everything we used was OK -- Mac OS, AppleShare, MS Word, Photoshop... but not FileMaker!
Being this little agency I worked at was more than a little technologicly-having-its-head-up-its-ass, we were using FileMaker 2.1. This was when 4.0 wasn't even new. It had been out for a long time.
And FM 2.1 isn't Y2K compliant.
Nope. FM 2.1, which I'm sure a lot of companies still use, isn't Y2K comliant. Our Macs were, and the rest of our software was, but our database wasn't. Big problem.
"We consider this a PR stunt by some Unix guys." -- Adam Sohn, M$ PR Flunkie.
That rubs me JUST the wrong way.
AS IF "some Unix guys" that were just fucking around with some stupid OS back in the 70s didn't build the Internet with it. AS IF most of the best software in the world has arisen from UNIX and its decendants!
GAH
that really, really ticked me off. Gross generalizations like that get people in trouble.
'nuff said. The details still need to be worked out, but the transition will be almost immediately. I wouldn't be surprised if there were 2.2-based PPC distros out the door before other platforms.:)
I went to a technical college for a year. Started out with a full load, in the electronics course. My original plan was to do the 2-year electronics degree thing, and then go to a big state university and get a degree in philosophy. (If your eyes just glazed over and you said "HUH?", that's what everyone else said at the time.;-)
I dropped out of the e- program after two months, and switched to a "general studies" course, with English and music as my focus. I did OK, when I went, and when I did my homework, which wasn't often. The second semester, I started out with a full load and a theoretically renewed charge to do it, but wound up all but dropping out, and finished the semester with two classes (a music class and a speaking performance class) that I'd not attended through most of the semester.
That was.. 1994. After that, I worked in politics for a while and found myself on the wrong side of the "Republican Revolution" that year, which soured me from politics. My skill had always been with computers, and after the 94 election, I got a job at a local Macintosh store (MacGalaxy... hi Mark!;-), where I worked for about a year before starting my "consulting career" -- unemployment.:)
While consulting, I managed to both starve and accrue valuable experience -- I set up networks, did troubleshooting, and learned the value of a dollar. All my consulting experience eventually added up, and after working for about six months in 1997 at a big credit union organization doing tech support for an MS-DOS product (pretty good for a Mac guy!), I got a job as a sysadmin at an ad agency, where I was until August of 98. I'd met my future business partner about a year and a half before, and actually started working on linuxppc.org in March or April of 98. In August, I quit the ad agency (best move I ever made!) and moved to Savannah, Georgia (second best move I ever made!), and I now work for LinuxPPC Inc., aka LinuxPPC.com.:)
And that's been a truly remarkable experience. Pretty good for a guy without a degree! I hung around college people during what would be my normal "college years," and sometimes I feel a little deprived of some experiences, but I really feel that I've taken my own path through life, and I'm now doing what I've always wanted to do: bringing software development to a really cool platform and being my own boss -- which is invaluable. No degree can confer that!
Do what's best for you. Follow your heart. If school's not right for you, work. If work's not right for you, perhaps school is. It's different for everyone. School and I never quite got along, and I'm doing fine independantly. I might go back some day -- most of my family actually started college later in life and then did great -- but for now, I'm happy.
OS X/Linux stuff: The author didn't understand what I meant about how you can have a dual-boot system pretty easily. He came by and got straightened out on a lot of things, like that.:)
Re: using extensions: again, confused reporter. BootX uses the Mac OS's video settings, but it doesn't actually use any of the Mac OS extensions for anything. If it did, then we'd have a lot more hardware drivers.;')
OK, so the OC-3 ITSELF doesnt run on Linux..;-) thats why/. is known for quality accuracy in reporting from us blokes who can't report something right the first time.
Anyonne remember this text file? I remember downloading it from a Milwaukee-area BBS around 1987. A classic, IMO! totally funny..
I really miss those days.. 1200 bps makes me all misty-eyed..
(haaz, ex "The Peeler")
I talked to John Carmack at the past Macworld Expo. He said if we get certain components like OpenGL ported to LinuxPPC, it might be possible.
;)
He's worried that the other smaller Linuxes (SPARC, Alpha) would then start demanding it. That would be the classic "Well if we let the PowerPC people have it, we're going to let the rest of the class have it" argument.
Our next hardware donations are going to be a Blue G3 to the kernel guys to get those running, and a fast Power Mac to a Glide developer to get that ported.
I wonder what this means for fringe physics?
Like, if they get it going really slow, what's that mean for going faster than light?
-- haaz, playing Lead into Gold today..
This looks like a Good Thing to me. There's too many trade shows now! Macworld Expo (Jan/Aug), Linuxworld (March, and a second one planned later in the year!), Bazaar (July), ALS (October), LinuxExpo (May)... argh!
I'm seriously thinking about writing something about that. Essay-style. Lay the Haas-FU down on it.
Maybe we could leave our gear at the Javitz Center if it's late enough in July. The Macworld Expo will probably be there a few weeks after the Bazaar ends. That would be good for us, not having to ship our gear to the same city twice.
The Mac hardware is OK.
When I was a sysadmin, I decided to do a little Y2K analysis for my company, who was trying very hard to avoid the subject. So I forced the issue. (My boss wasn't happy about that. That should tell you a lot about the culture of this company..)
ANYway.. I went to a lot of companies web sites, and read up. Most everything we used was OK -- Mac OS, AppleShare, MS Word, Photoshop... but not FileMaker!
Being this little agency I worked at was more than a little technologicly-having-its-head-up-its-ass, we were using FileMaker 2.1. This was when 4.0 wasn't even new. It had been out for a long time.
And FM 2.1 isn't Y2K compliant.
Nope. FM 2.1, which I'm sure a lot of companies still use, isn't Y2K comliant. Our Macs were, and the rest of our software was, but our database wasn't. Big problem.
I doubt they've decided to act on it yet.
kickass!
MS's PR flack said:
"We consider this a PR stunt by some Unix guys." -- Adam Sohn, M$ PR Flunkie.
That rubs me JUST the wrong way.
AS IF "some Unix guys" that were just fucking around with some stupid OS back in the 70s didn't build the Internet with it. AS IF most of the best software in the world has arisen from UNIX and its decendants!
GAH
that really, really ticked me off. Gross generalizations like that get people in trouble.
'nuff said. The details still need to be worked out, but the transition will be almost immediately. I wouldn't be surprised if there were 2.2-based PPC distros out the door before other platforms. :)
I saw a two-page ad in (I think!) Brill's Content.
It's weird seeing these actors portraying Steve and Gates... the guy who plays Gates is a little too buff.
But yeah, it's gonna air in April.
I dropped out of the e- program after two months, and switched to a "general studies" course, with English and music as my focus. I did OK, when I went, and when I did my homework, which wasn't often. The second semester, I started out with a full load and a theoretically renewed charge to do it, but wound up all but dropping out, and finished the semester with two classes (a music class and a speaking performance class) that I'd not attended through most of the semester.
That was.. 1994. After that, I worked in politics for a while and found myself on the wrong side of the "Republican Revolution" that year, which soured me from politics. My skill had always been with computers, and after the 94 election, I got a job at a local Macintosh store (MacGalaxy... hi Mark! ;-), where I worked for about a year before starting my "consulting career" -- unemployment. :)
While consulting, I managed to both starve and accrue valuable experience -- I set up networks, did troubleshooting, and learned the value of a dollar. All my consulting experience eventually added up, and after working for about six months in 1997 at a big credit union organization doing tech support for an MS-DOS product (pretty good for a Mac guy!), I got a job as a sysadmin at an ad agency, where I was until August of 98. I'd met my future business partner about a year and a half before, and actually started working on linuxppc.org in March or April of 98. In August, I quit the ad agency (best move I ever made!) and moved to Savannah, Georgia (second best move I ever made!), and I now work for LinuxPPC Inc., aka LinuxPPC.com. :)
And that's been a truly remarkable experience. Pretty good for a guy without a degree! I hung around college people during what would be my normal "college years," and sometimes I feel a little deprived of some experiences, but I really feel that I've taken my own path through life, and I'm now doing what I've always wanted to do: bringing software development to a really cool platform and being my own boss -- which is invaluable. No degree can confer that!
Do what's best for you. Follow your heart. If school's not right for you, work. If work's not right for you, perhaps school is. It's different for everyone. School and I never quite got along, and I'm doing fine independantly. I might go back some day -- most of my family actually started college later in life and then did great -- but for now, I'm happy.
OS X/Linux stuff: The author didn't understand what I meant about how you can have a dual-boot system pretty easily. He came by and got straightened out on a lot of things, like that. :)
;')
Re: using extensions: again, confused reporter. BootX uses the Mac OS's video settings, but it doesn't actually use any of the Mac OS extensions for anything. If it did, then we'd have a lot more hardware drivers.
Yeahyeah... ;) was it you we talked to about it?
;-) thats why /. is known for quality accuracy in reporting from us blokes who can't report something right the first time.
OK, so the OC-3 ITSELF doesnt run on Linux..