See also, Zenos' paradox about walking half distances. If you walk 1/2 of the way to a point, then you need to travel 1/2 of the next distance, etc, never reaching the point. This doesn't pan out, seeing as I can actually walk to my fridge. There is a time required for all events, seeing as events are limited by their medium, space-time.
Hence, while your light switch is undeterminable at or past one second, there is a limit to how small the time between switches is, makeing a time a two seconds detminable, once you know that limit.
I imagine this simply refers to platform specific code only being completed on Windows and Linux as current. It would be inappropriate to state that all OS's are supported if there's platform specific coding that hasn't been done for all platforms.
Okay, I know this is much lower scale than the championchip competition, but still. At our regional ACM contest, we had an painfully easy problem involving the angle between the minute and hour hand on an analog clock. The only difficult thing about this problem was the formating. In the ACM contest, it is very explicit that file output is the only thing judged, screen output is not to be even looked at. So when I jumped down at the keyboard to code this, I dumped some very wrong formating to the screen, but the file was fine. The solution got rejected. I commented out the code that printed to the screen, resubmitted, and bingo, answer accepted. Consider me (and my team) extreamly pissed. I was so tempted to throw the judges a really nasty communications form... Because of this screwup we were penalized and we would have gotten 8th place instead of 9th.
I know, minor little rant, but it just goes to show that the ACM *never* is wrong. This still ticks me off.
Is Loki spreading themselves a wee bit thin? It seems like every month or two they're announcing a few more titles. Are they really that good at porting these things?
I don't think so. I still have a few bugs left unresolved from their first title, Civ:CTP. For instance, networking does not work from the PPC platform. This just happens to be the main reason I bought CTP, so I could trash my roommate, but I've had to do it running Linux under Virtual PC on top of MacOS instead of just going into LinuxPPC.
If you're listening Loki, I'm still waiting. And no, I don't want a refund, I want a functional game. I'll even help code/test it if you want.
This tells me that they aren't using a random sample, but rather you have to activly register your box to have your uptimes scored, which doesn't indicate that the sample of people is very diverse first of all. Also, the sample size for some of the OS's is horrible. A few examples: Windows NT 71 Windows 95 30 BeOS 5 And people are actually making remarks about BeOS's performance when only 5 people have contributed their uptimes to this study? As far as I'm concerned, the only samples that are worth jack are Linux and FreeBSD (590 and 137, respectivly), and even then I don't trust the results because of the first point I brought up.
Man, sometimes you just gotta look at the numbers.
This goes back to the original problem, they've got Win98 and don't want to change that. Adding NT would require partitioning, and once we have that we might as well just install Linux.
Well, of course GNU is Not UNIX, but it's impossible to talk about the history of UNIX without talking about GNU tools. What would UNIX be without them? Well, it would seem to me that the folks whom are good at writing OS stuff would have to write tools for their OS, taking them away from working on their OS. #include "GNU.h" OS people say "Hey, this kicks butt! We can go back to work on our OS now!" OS subsiquantly gets better, but relys on GNU tools for that part of it. Hence GNU and the FSF are integral in the history of UNIX, hence why there's in that list. Q.E.D.
I've checked out a few other Linux-without-killing-your-drive distros before, like the ones previously featured on Slashdot (the names excape me as current...no, wait, one of them was winlinux). They didn't work very well, cruddy vidio, non-functional networking, etc... As a sysadmin for a Linux lab here at Drake University, the folks in our intro to programming course would really like to have Linux on their Wintel boxes simply to be able to telnet and have X and have it actually work, yet seem reluctant to repartition their entire drive to achive this.
Mayhaps this one might actually be decent enough to recommend to people.
Dispite the general distain towards the folks, this seems like a great place for RedHat to come into play. For most newbies coming into the flux, they know of RedHat, they might even trust RedHat. So why not have a RedHat Lite? Cost less mayhap, perhaps it just comes on another CD in the standard install. Or just have a "presets" menu in the installer that has such things as "Secure", "Web Server", some pregrown installs that'll all work peachy.
Supurb idea, and an absolutly needed before Linux can be for the average folk.
Um, why would anyone reply to a Geeks in Space? I mean, it's simply a discussion about stories that have been run, hence already discussed. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy Geeks in Space as much as the next guy, simply because it's interesting to hear those guys talk about junk. They're kinda funny, or somethin'.
Being discouraged by lack of responses would be silly - there ain't much new news in it.;)
You have a point. A limited, but valid, point. As always, when applying a generality to a population, there are people caught under a broad stroke of generality that really don't belong there. In this case, you make a claim that the e-mails Katz recieved from kids (16-17 year old kids) should be discounted because they are not adults on the basis that adults always see the whole picture when kids do not. First off, in my experiance with adults, the statement that they all see the whole picture is absolutly absurd. I'm sure we can all think of examples of adults that haven't a clue. I'm also sure that we can all think of some kids (again, talking the 16-17 year old range, right before they make the magic jump to 18) who really handle themselves well and are mature as any normal adult. (I do conceed that on average, adults have experienced more and are much more mature. Just don't blanket the entire group - either one)
Unfortunatly, parenting has been shifted off of the parents shoulders, and this movie junk is just another symptom of that. For instance, the high school I graduated from felt that kids were not being taught to be community minded by their parents, hence they required each student to perform 80 hours of "volunteer" work to graduate. Last I checked, schools taught academics and parents taught social lifestyle and morality. This is changing, and now movie theatres are trying to teach morality also. And my word is something lost in the generality from parent-child to institution-children. Reminds me of an aformentioned generality.
Anyway, this post is long enough.
Penrif - An 18 year old college Junior whos 4th grade teacher wanted to be his parent and hold him back because he wasn't social enough and thought he should be with kids his own age.
(I know my mother won't read this, but thank you mom for standing up to her!)
SSL. That and large amount of transaction auditing at just about every point in the system. Oh, and the limitation most online transfers have to only being able to transfer to ones own accounts or to predefined payees.
It wouldn't be impossible to break the SSL-but I sure wouldn't transfer too much, you *will* be detected (expecially if you try to transfer to *your* account, duh).
"does writing the documentation for something require that you know the program as well as the person who has written it?"
No. Docs are usually not writen by the folks who write the code. This make sence, seeing as the typical end user is not in the least bit interested in what the programer knows. What is probably more useful is the writings of someone who has learned to use the tool well and is good at explaining things in English - not C.
As Linux starts to edge more into mainstream/non-geek use, we're going to need more folks like you.;)
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See also, Zenos' paradox about walking half distances. If you walk 1/2 of the way to a point, then you need to travel 1/2 of the next distance, etc, never reaching the point. This doesn't pan out, seeing as I can actually walk to my fridge. There is a time required for all events, seeing as events are limited by their medium, space-time.
Hence, while your light switch is undeterminable at or past one second, there is a limit to how small the time between switches is, makeing a time a two seconds detminable, once you know that limit.
I imagine this simply refers to platform specific code only being completed on Windows and Linux as current. It would be inappropriate to state that all OS's are supported if there's platform specific coding that hasn't been done for all platforms.
Absolutly, however... We were explicitly told that this would not be a problem.
Okay, I know this is much lower scale than the championchip competition, but still. At our regional ACM contest, we had an painfully easy problem involving the angle between the minute and hour hand on an analog clock. The only difficult thing about this problem was the formating. In the ACM contest, it is very explicit that file output is the only thing judged, screen output is not to be even looked at. So when I jumped down at the keyboard to code this, I dumped some very wrong formating to the screen, but the file was fine. The solution got rejected. I commented out the code that printed to the screen, resubmitted, and bingo, answer accepted. Consider me (and my team) extreamly pissed. I was so tempted to throw the judges a really nasty communications form... Because of this screwup we were penalized and we would have gotten 8th place instead of 9th.
I know, minor little rant, but it just goes to show that the ACM *never* is wrong. This still ticks me off.
Just incase you want to run Civ:CTP networked. Silly, yes, but I've actually had to do this.
Ah, but 39.5% + 59.5% == 99%. Since 39.5% is usually just rounded up to 40% as is 59.5% to 60%, you can see how 60% + 40% == 99%.
Is Loki spreading themselves a wee bit thin? It seems like every month or two they're announcing a few more titles. Are they really that good at porting these things?
I don't think so. I still have a few bugs left unresolved from their first title, Civ:CTP. For instance, networking does not work from the PPC platform. This just happens to be the main reason I bought CTP, so I could trash my roommate, but I've had to do it running Linux under Virtual PC on top of MacOS instead of just going into LinuxPPC.
If you're listening Loki, I'm still waiting. And no, I don't want a refund, I want a functional game. I'll even help code/test it if you want.
Maybe that Color Gameboy I got for Christmas won't be completely worthless!
Ah, but you can get powdered DNA. I learned that in high school biochemistry, where I extracted it from the ever so painful Rocky Mountian Oysters.
Well good, I was pretty sure Gateway wasn't going to do anything good with 'em.
"Nr. of hosts registered per OS"
This tells me that they aren't using a random sample, but rather you have to activly register your box to have your uptimes scored, which doesn't indicate that the sample of people is very diverse first of all. Also, the sample size for some of the OS's is horrible. A few examples:
Windows NT 71
Windows 95 30
BeOS 5
And people are actually making remarks about BeOS's performance when only 5 people have contributed their uptimes to this study? As far as I'm concerned, the only samples that are worth jack are Linux and FreeBSD (590 and 137, respectivly), and even then I don't trust the results because of the first point I brought up.
Man, sometimes you just gotta look at the numbers.
This goes back to the original problem, they've got Win98 and don't want to change that. Adding NT would require partitioning, and once we have that we might as well just install Linux.
Well, of course GNU is Not UNIX, but it's impossible to talk about the history of UNIX without talking about GNU tools. What would UNIX be without them? Well, it would seem to me that the folks whom are good at writing OS stuff would have to write tools for their OS, taking them away from working on their OS. #include "GNU.h" OS people say "Hey, this kicks butt! We can go back to work on our OS now!" OS subsiquantly gets better, but relys on GNU tools for that part of it. Hence GNU and the FSF are integral in the history of UNIX, hence why there's in that list. Q.E.D.
Wow, I'm dumb. That link should be WinLinux
That should learn me to let someone else hit the submit button.
Most of the folks in this intro to programing are not in the least CS people... Most take it as a part of general education requirements.
If they were all CS people, of course they should have no excuse not to be able to partition their own junk.
I've checked out a few other Linux-without-killing-your-drive distros before, like the ones previously featured on Slashdot (the names excape me as current...no, wait, one of them was winlinux). They didn't work very well, cruddy vidio, non-functional networking, etc... As a sysadmin for a Linux lab here at Drake University, the folks in our intro to programming course would really like to have Linux on their Wintel boxes simply to be able to telnet and have X and have it actually work, yet seem reluctant to repartition their entire drive to achive this.
Mayhaps this one might actually be decent enough to recommend to people.
And with our new Doom sysadmin tool, those zombies are dead within minutes!
Man, I need to start on my database of all askable questions. Not too hard, right?
Penrif
Dispite the general distain towards the folks, this seems like a great place for RedHat to come into play. For most newbies coming into the flux, they know of RedHat, they might even trust RedHat. So why not have a RedHat Lite? Cost less mayhap, perhaps it just comes on another CD in the standard install. Or just have a "presets" menu in the installer that has such things as "Secure", "Web Server", some pregrown installs that'll all work peachy.
Supurb idea, and an absolutly needed before Linux can be for the average folk.
Um, why would anyone reply to a Geeks in Space? I mean, it's simply a discussion about stories that have been run, hence already discussed. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy Geeks in Space as much as the next guy, simply because it's interesting to hear those guys talk about junk. They're kinda funny, or somethin'.
;)
Being discouraged by lack of responses would be silly - there ain't much new news in it.
You have a point. A limited, but valid, point. As always, when applying a generality to a population, there are people caught under a broad stroke of generality that really don't belong there. In this case, you make a claim that the e-mails Katz recieved from kids (16-17 year old kids) should be discounted because they are not adults on the basis that adults always see the whole picture when kids do not. First off, in my experiance with adults, the statement that they all see the whole picture is absolutly absurd. I'm sure we can all think of examples of adults that haven't a clue. I'm also sure that we can all think of some kids (again, talking the 16-17 year old range, right before they make the magic jump to 18) who really handle themselves well and are mature as any normal adult. (I do conceed that on average, adults have experienced more and are much more mature. Just don't blanket the entire group - either one)
Unfortunatly, parenting has been shifted off of the parents shoulders, and this movie junk is just another symptom of that. For instance, the high school I graduated from felt that kids were not being taught to be community minded by their parents, hence they required each student to perform 80 hours of "volunteer" work to graduate. Last I checked, schools taught academics and parents taught social lifestyle and morality. This is changing, and now movie theatres are trying to teach morality also. And my word is something lost in the generality from parent-child to institution-children. Reminds me of an aformentioned generality.
Anyway, this post is long enough.
Penrif - An 18 year old college Junior whos 4th grade teacher wanted to be his parent and hold him back because he wasn't social enough and thought he should be with kids his own age.
(I know my mother won't read this, but thank you mom for standing up to her!)
2.x where x is odd are the version numbers used for development versions.
SSL. That and large amount of transaction auditing at just about every point in the system. Oh, and the limitation most online transfers have to only being able to transfer to ones own accounts or to predefined payees.
It wouldn't be impossible to break the SSL-but I sure wouldn't transfer too much, you *will* be detected (expecially if you try to transfer to *your* account, duh).
Penrif
"does writing the documentation for something require that you know the program as well as the person who has written it?"
;)
No. Docs are usually not writen by the folks who write the code. This make sence, seeing as the typical end user is not in the least bit interested in what the programer knows. What is probably more useful is the writings of someone who has learned to use the tool well and is good at explaining things in English - not C.
As Linux starts to edge more into mainstream/non-geek use, we're going to need more folks like you.
"no way you'll get openGL support for this box's hardware..."
Um, please correct me if I'm wrong, but OpenGL does support ATI RAGE controllers.