"What ended up happening perfectly illustrates that newspapers just don't understand how the Internet works "
The minor detail that you missed is that it's not the newspaper that doesn't get "how the internet works." You're suggesting instead that they learn about plagarism, yet that is - in fact - how the internet works.
Tablets and laptop are both computers. The tablet is limited by lack of a keyboard.
The laptop is limited by the lack of a touch screen. Lets compare the cost of a touch screen to that of a keyboard, shall we?
"GroupOn" barely has a name. It doesn't have a patent lock on the concept. It is easily repeatable, and others are already doing so.
That the market allowed them to reject $6B for such a thing is...confusing. But, eh, whatever.
ooooohhhh....we are not powerless, because we can give up connecting to the internet all together. That makes sense.
The point is that if we want (or need) internet access, we are powerless to dictate the terms of what we get. Most of us have only 1 last-mile option, for instance.
Some will argue that it's not community driven though.
And those people are misinformed. Fedora is substantially more community-driven than Ubuntu. The lack of ability to add random shit to the distro just means it's also more secure; the general fedora community is more concerned about having something they can trust, I guess.
and yet, you also say you believe in rebooting frequently. You know, just to clean stuff up. Cause them old pipes get clogged up, and the tubes need to be purged.
There's no reason to reboot something just because. You destroy forensic data, you destroy indexes and caching, etc. Fix what is broken, leave the rest alone. Your dev setup is where you should be working out any issues you think might cause the system to not come up.
Did you try getting to my second sentence? "Rebooting a system removes a lot of forensic data, and you should know long before it's dying that there is a problem"
The new crop of sysadmins are sortof funny. I wasn't aware that there was a myth that rebooting a server fixed anything, among the unix ranks. Of course that doesn't fix anything.
Are the people spreading this myth the same folks that log in as root because hey - they're the sysadmin, and access controls are for wimps?
err...or, you could figure out why there was a problem. Rebooting a system removes a lot of forensic data, and you should know long before it's dying that there is a problem.
There's nothing a reboot "fixes."
did you watch the same movie as me? It already deviated pretty hard from the show. I preferred to think of it as the same characters (with one exception - shepherd got changed a lot) in a completely different timeline.
you agree with the guy who says they don't log in as root? Are you sure? Because your follow-up suggests otherwise.
There are a short list of reasons to log in as root and do something:
1) you're a noob
2) you're too lazy to set up role-based access controls and security contexts
3) you don't like the idea of creating rules which apply to yourself, and don't like the idea of setting up a stable environment that will last long after you're gone
4) you have just a handful of machines
5) a machine has gone to complete hell, and you need to log in to it (in single-user, or such)
So I'm not a real unix admin because I don't run around logged in as root? Really? Cause I haven't needed to be so lazy and noobish in years. I've been in the most senior of ranks in companies with over a million employees, and over 100k servers. Now I do the whole "cloud" thing - which, for PCI compliance reasons, I set up role-based access that doesn't allow me (or anyone else) to get around audit traits. I can break the proverbial glass and get root password, but these days...I don't need to. I can't do real forensics in the cloud, and tct is in bitrot anyway...so the clusters just heal themselves, through apps I wrote completely from top/bottom. Apps that don't need, or use, root - and apps I manage without root.
oh, and another thing - you're so darn leet, that you run X as root? You SSH as root? You type the root password in all over the place? youze got the mad skills, lemme tell ya.
If you don't know how to set up access controls for everyone, including yourself, then you're crap. Sure, maybe your massive server farm of 5 doesn't need anything other than you as root, but others of us work in farms of thousands of servers, with dozens of people having root access; I suppose your skills are so leet you don't do auditing, either?
bullshite. I've been syadmin for 16 years, you NEVER get on as root unless stuff is seriously broken. if you don't know how to properly use ACLs, SELinux contexts, etc - then you're not a sysadmin, you're a hobbyist. No serious, experienced UNIX admin would spend more than 1% of their time as root.
or someone made the social-engineering mistake of registering at another site with an email address, and then using the same password at that site as the login for their email address (and in this case, the rest of their fedora resources) uses....ie, could have been an extremely good password. If I have a random 400 character password and then post it on a public internet page, it's not the password that is weak.
the purpose of the interface was to not lose energy, especially since people don't come built-in with power-over-air transmitters. The VR interface was just added since it was already there...and why not, at that point. 400 years from now with ultra-smart AI I don't think wireless tech will be all that hard to deal with.
My point is merely that many people complain about that particular bit...which seems odd, since there are obvious technical reasons it could have happened.
So, lots of folks saying both that cold fusion is impossible, and that it would be marked by particular types of activity that were obviously not present in this experiment.
Apart from the internal inconsistency there, perhaps a bit of that cliche', "thinking outside the box" crap is in order? Maybe we just think this experiment is bogus because it doesn't happen the way we think it won't (which sounds silly to say, but is what people are saying...)?
My money is on bogus too, but at some point - while we're already admitting we have no clue either - we have to acknowledge that the answer might end up being something completely unlike that which we were expecting.
because no matter how cool we make power-over-the-air, if you have direct physical contact with the power source it will make more sense to plug a wire in. Air has quite a bit of resistance.
That said, there's a difference between being usable as a battery, and being able to connect to the VR. They might share a pipe, but perhaps he just figured out a way to do it without the wire...is that really so crazy?
I'd still just prefer that he was figuring out a second layer, though;)
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The minor detail that you missed is that it's not the newspaper that doesn't get "how the internet works." You're suggesting instead that they learn about plagarism, yet that is - in fact - how the internet works.
Tablets and laptop are both computers. The tablet is limited by lack of a keyboard. The laptop is limited by the lack of a touch screen. Lets compare the cost of a touch screen to that of a keyboard, shall we?
"GroupOn" barely has a name. It doesn't have a patent lock on the concept. It is easily repeatable, and others are already doing so. That the market allowed them to reject $6B for such a thing is...confusing. But, eh, whatever.
likely a soft hack. Insider, or simply seducing an engineer with a cute girl.
The point is that if we want (or need) internet access, we are powerless to dictate the terms of what we get. Most of us have only 1 last-mile option, for instance.
apologies - was already annoyed at something else. Never go to forums when you're already annoyed, I guess ;)
And those people are misinformed. Fedora is substantially more community-driven than Ubuntu. The lack of ability to add random shit to the distro just means it's also more secure; the general fedora community is more concerned about having something they can trust, I guess.
and yet, you also say you believe in rebooting frequently. You know, just to clean stuff up. Cause them old pipes get clogged up, and the tubes need to be purged.
There's no reason to reboot something just because. You destroy forensic data, you destroy indexes and caching, etc. Fix what is broken, leave the rest alone. Your dev setup is where you should be working out any issues you think might cause the system to not come up.
so boot off a SAN, or learn how to read SMART messages.
Did you try getting to my second sentence? "Rebooting a system removes a lot of forensic data, and you should know long before it's dying that there is a problem"
The new crop of sysadmins are sortof funny. I wasn't aware that there was a myth that rebooting a server fixed anything, among the unix ranks. Of course that doesn't fix anything.
Are the people spreading this myth the same folks that log in as root because hey - they're the sysadmin, and access controls are for wimps?
err...or, you could figure out why there was a problem. Rebooting a system removes a lot of forensic data, and you should know long before it's dying that there is a problem.
There's nothing a reboot "fixes."
did you watch the same movie as me? It already deviated pretty hard from the show. I preferred to think of it as the same characters (with one exception - shepherd got changed a lot) in a completely different timeline.
yeah, I still use tapes for my audio recording needs. Anyone who needs more than that is just fooling themselves.
you agree with the guy who says they don't log in as root? Are you sure? Because your follow-up suggests otherwise. There are a short list of reasons to log in as root and do something: 1) you're a noob 2) you're too lazy to set up role-based access controls and security contexts 3) you don't like the idea of creating rules which apply to yourself, and don't like the idea of setting up a stable environment that will last long after you're gone 4) you have just a handful of machines 5) a machine has gone to complete hell, and you need to log in to it (in single-user, or such) So I'm not a real unix admin because I don't run around logged in as root? Really? Cause I haven't needed to be so lazy and noobish in years. I've been in the most senior of ranks in companies with over a million employees, and over 100k servers. Now I do the whole "cloud" thing - which, for PCI compliance reasons, I set up role-based access that doesn't allow me (or anyone else) to get around audit traits. I can break the proverbial glass and get root password, but these days...I don't need to. I can't do real forensics in the cloud, and tct is in bitrot anyway...so the clusters just heal themselves, through apps I wrote completely from top/bottom. Apps that don't need, or use, root - and apps I manage without root.
oh, and another thing - you're so darn leet, that you run X as root? You SSH as root? You type the root password in all over the place? youze got the mad skills, lemme tell ya. If you don't know how to set up access controls for everyone, including yourself, then you're crap. Sure, maybe your massive server farm of 5 doesn't need anything other than you as root, but others of us work in farms of thousands of servers, with dozens of people having root access; I suppose your skills are so leet you don't do auditing, either?
bullshite. I've been syadmin for 16 years, you NEVER get on as root unless stuff is seriously broken. if you don't know how to properly use ACLs, SELinux contexts, etc - then you're not a sysadmin, you're a hobbyist. No serious, experienced UNIX admin would spend more than 1% of their time as root.
seriously. I guess real old-school UNIX sysadmins just log in as root, or setuid everything. that's the mark of a grizzled old coot that uses logic!
and does your $800 laptop have a touch-screen?
well, I consider it "news" that facebook has it's own icon...that's something I really wish I could un-see...
not only that, but I saw a lot of great plot ideas for 4/5 at various boards; they not only got a trial balloon, they got plot ideas!
or someone made the social-engineering mistake of registering at another site with an email address, and then using the same password at that site as the login for their email address (and in this case, the rest of their fedora resources) uses....ie, could have been an extremely good password. If I have a random 400 character password and then post it on a public internet page, it's not the password that is weak.
the purpose of the interface was to not lose energy, especially since people don't come built-in with power-over-air transmitters. The VR interface was just added since it was already there...and why not, at that point. 400 years from now with ultra-smart AI I don't think wireless tech will be all that hard to deal with.
My point is merely that many people complain about that particular bit...which seems odd, since there are obvious technical reasons it could have happened.
So, lots of folks saying both that cold fusion is impossible, and that it would be marked by particular types of activity that were obviously not present in this experiment.
Apart from the internal inconsistency there, perhaps a bit of that cliche', "thinking outside the box" crap is in order? Maybe we just think this experiment is bogus because it doesn't happen the way we think it won't (which sounds silly to say, but is what people are saying...)?
My money is on bogus too, but at some point - while we're already admitting we have no clue either - we have to acknowledge that the answer might end up being something completely unlike that which we were expecting.
because no matter how cool we make power-over-the-air, if you have direct physical contact with the power source it will make more sense to plug a wire in. Air has quite a bit of resistance. ;)
That said, there's a difference between being usable as a battery, and being able to connect to the VR. They might share a pipe, but perhaps he just figured out a way to do it without the wire...is that really so crazy?
I'd still just prefer that he was figuring out a second layer, though