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Reeves Rumors Reversed

AdmiralXyz writes "The rumor that Keanu Reeves was in talks with the Wachowski brothers to produce Matrix movies 4 and 5, in 3-D, is apparently just that. Representatives from Warner Bros. spoke to Wired and called the rumors 'bunk,' pointing out that the school Reeves was supposedly accepting an award from when he made the announcement doesn't actually exist. His publicists made similar statements. Perhaps the film deities have shown us mercy just this once."

156 comments

  1. There is a god by kimvette · · Score: 3, Insightful

    and I am thanking him right now!

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    1. Re:There is a god by commodore6502 · · Score: 1

      I don't know why people hate Matrix 2/3 so much.
      Other than being one half hour too long, I thought it was a fine science-based fiction, as good as any of the classic novels (I Robot, Foundation, 2001, Ender's Game).

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    2. Re:There is a god by Carl.E.Pierre · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I don't know why people hate Matrix 2/3 so much.
      Other than being one half hour too long, I thought it was a fine science-based fiction, as good as any of the classic novels (I Robot, Foundation, 2001, Ender's Game).

      Your lack of taste is appalling. Seek help!

    3. Re:There is a god by Lazareth · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Because The Matrix was a cult movie with a strong plot and some thought-provoking themes, while Matrix 2/3 was simply action flicks with good casting and shiny effects that brought nothing new to the franchise and simply churned money over it?

      The Matrix was an excellent movie of immortal value. Matrix 2/3 was merely good action movies of passing notice only because of the original =P

      I don't hate them, but I can surely see why fans of the original think they were bad for the story.

    4. Re:There is a god by kiwimate · · Score: 4, Insightful

      ?

      Why? People make movies, you don't want to see them, don't buy a ticket. You save some ridiculous amount of money and have a few hours extra to indulge in something you will enjoy. Why is that so hard?

      I don't get all this scorn and derision. If you don't like something - a movie, a web site, Fox News - ignore it. Change the channel. Isn't that what people always say when fighting for freedom of expression versus censorship? "You don't like it, you don't have to watch it."

    5. Re:There is a god by al0ha · · Score: 2

      In comparison to Bladerunner, all the Matrix movies are simply action flicks with good casting.

      The first was a stand out because it had cutting edge bitchin' special effects, like avoiding the bullets. That kicked ass. 2 and 3 had good effects, but one just stood out simply for the reason it broke new ground. Otherwise it was nothing special.

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    6. Re:There is a god by commodore6502 · · Score: 2

      >>>The Matrix was a cult movie with a strong plot and some thought-provoking themes

      Matrix 2 and 3 had thought-provoking themes too. If you don't believe me, just fast-forward past the action scenes you dislike and focus on the storyline.

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    7. Re:There is a god by tumutbound · · Score: 1

      >>>The Matrix was a cult movie with a strong plot and some thought-provoking themes

      Matrix 2 and 3 had thought-provoking themes too. If you don't believe me, just fast-forward past the action scenes you dislike and focus on the storyline.

      They have a storyline?

    8. Re:There is a god by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and I am thanking him right now!

      WHOAH!!!

    9. Re:There is a god by geekoid · · Score: 1

      "imply action flicks with good casting and shiny effects that brought nothing new to the franchise"

      which would have been fine if the made sense within the context the set up in the first movie.

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    10. Re:There is a god by Artifakt · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Both the sequels had strong, thought provoking themes, they just dealt with the parts of philosophy that make everyone today edgy. Epistemology (how do we know what we think we know is real?) Is fun but it doesn't actually provoke fistfights most of the time. If someone starts discussing how we know that what you see as green isn't what I see as blue, we'd probably both roll our eyes and make a joke about laying off the whacky tobaccy - we may pitty the person who is unsure what is real, we may worry about his sanity, but we don't (most of us) feel threatened by his statements. Universality of Ethics (Neo isn't driven by Kantian imperatives to do what is 'universally' best, but by his specific emotive commitment to just one person (Trinity, of course), to do what's best for her.), and Free will vs. Predestination (particularly the Merovingian's take on it), both still give some people fits of blinding rage when they actually get invoked in conversations (for example, some people fight quite seriously over claims that a person was made to do something bad by society, to many people that's not just philosophy, it's politics), and I won't even mention what some people in the past have done over Philosophy of Religion issues. Matrix 2 and 3 went into areas of philosophy that more people get uncomfortable with. They didn't necessarily do it well, but they did it.
            It's not even that the first one did a good job on the philosophy. Any speech about epistemology that uses such a distractingly, jarringly wrong metaphor for anyone who knows physics as Morpheus's coppertop soliloquy is certainly no better than the Merovingian's bits, and while the Architect's actions are not a really subtle, nuanced, mature commentary on how an all knowing being can allow evil either (unless you're a Gnostic and think he's representing the Demiurge, not the real God, then just maybe there's some little depth), at least there's some meaningful understatement from the actor there.

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    11. Re:There is a god by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 1

      I Robot wasn't a novel. Says a lot for how much you know about good SF...

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    12. Re:There is a god by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Because it wasn't what it could have been.

      Matrix 1 was a genre defining movie. It had everything, from flashy effects to guns to kung fu moves. It was here-and-now sci-fi with a twist, with a hacker hero, with a cool hacker chick and (mostly) believable characters. For one even Reeves' wooden acting was well placed, he was perfectly cast for the stereotypical nerd with zero social competence. The Agents were believable, the whole setting (while violating the laws of thermodynamics, but let's not be nitpicking) made quite a bit of sense.

      Then some of us came across what seems to be the original script for the second movie. I read it and I wanted this movie. OMFG! What character progression! What dark twist! Neo, caught in the quandary of having the fate of humanity, machines and billions of "copperheads" in his hands. Morpheus, an overzealous crusader with little compassion for "copperheads" as long as the machines get to die. And Razor (a new character that sadly didn't make it into the movie, but I get ahead) who would surely have been the new geek hero (read the script, people, if you haven't!). And while I was wondering what they could possibly field against Neo after he's pretty much able to bend the Matrix to his will: Smith was about to get his own Neo. Awesome idea, and an awesome setup for a showdown in a third movie between Neo and Gregory. Not to mention the ton of in-jokes the script contained, the wisecracking, a pure genus mix of action and humor.

      I say it again, read the script!

      I was anxious to see it, to say the least. And if that ticket costed a hundred bucks, I would have paid it, if it would have been shown in a theater a hundred miles away, I would have gone there. On foot if need be.

      You MIGHT have an idea how disappointed I was. Instead of a script that would have redefined The Matrix, adding a lot of character depth to the action of the first, we got a stale story with predictable, uninteresting characters, deus ex machina moments and plotholes that could swallow whole planets.

      THAT is what was disappointing about Matrix 2 and 3. Not that they weren't good. They just do not deserve to bear that name.

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    13. Re:There is a god by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Yes, they do. You have to dig through all the rewrites and changes that caused enough loose ends to make the whole "story" really confusing and quite nonsensical.

      Personally, my guess is that the Wachowskis pitched the script and it got initially rejected. No, we can't make the army look bad, we got a war going on right now! No, we can't turn our heroes into people willing to sacrifice billions of people just to achieve their goals, that puts them too close to terrorists. No, we can't let Smith recruit an "anti-Neo", could irk the religious types if we introduce an Antichrist. And so on.

      Then I picture them sitting over those 3 pages that are left of the script, having a lot of booze assembled, together with their friends, and from time to time someone would start "Hey, wouldn't it be cool if...", and they discuss it, drink some beer, scribble away... and after the 5th beer or so, whenever someone started with "Hey, wouldn't it be cool", one of them would just wave his hand and go "yeah, yeah, whatever note it down already".

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    14. Re:There is a god by agentgonzo · · Score: 1

      This is the internet. The whole point of an open and fair forum is to bitch and moan as loudly as possible, regardless of any aim or objective

    15. Re:There is a god by tbannist · · Score: 1

      If a similar vein if you don't like people complaining about something, don't read it. Or is taking your own advice, something you're not prepared to do?

      Of course, some things, like Fox News, are dangerous to ignore. Fox News spends an inordinate amount of time misinforming people. In a democracy that's actually dangerous. The danger is that the misinformed people may now be willing to support nonsensical and idiotic ideas because they've been told repeatedly that it's the only moral and responsible thing to do. Never mind that the people who own most of the media stand to profit from the misinformation. For example, maybe they'll get millions of dollars from the tax cuts their networks promote. But, really, you shouldn't worry about that, you're definitely not supposed to be looking behind that curtain.

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    16. Re:There is a god by kiwimate · · Score: 1

      If a similar vein if you don't like people complaining about something, don't read it. Or is taking your own advice, something you're not prepared to do?

      You make a good point, honestly. The problem is that there are often snippets of good input buried amongst the trash, so I feel compelled to at least scan through the comments if it's a story I'm interested in. If it's a story about something I don't like or doesn't really impact me, well, I just ignore it. That's what I wish other people would do; it wastes so much time filtering through the anti-Facebook venom, say, on a story which I may want to read.

    17. Re:There is a god by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      I guess it depends on your definition of novel. It was a collection of short stories interconnected with each other with a overreaching story that they were all being told in a row by someone speaking of her experiences with the shift of robots in society. The movie had absolutely nothing to do with the book but the name, I can't even point to a single one of the short stories that the movie used for any of the themes.

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    18. Re:There is a god by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Do you have a link to the script? I am sure a search would pull up many fan made versions, but I would be interested in reading the right one, sounds very interesting.

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    19. Re:There is a god by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've hated the Matrix sequels since they came out, but you just made me want to go back and rewatch them, to see if this content is really there. Well played, sir.

    20. Re:There is a god by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Third paragraph, first line.

      I admit, links are not easily identifiable anymore in the new layout.

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    21. Re:There is a god by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 1

      Little Lost Robot.

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  2. Oh no! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's a glitch in the Matrix!

    1. Re:Oh no! by jasonlfunk · · Score: 1

      It means that changed something.

  3. 4 and 5 ??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    Surely to produce films 4 and 5, first there must be 2 and 3. Or am I missing something?

    1. Re:4 and 5 ??? by Yvan256 · · Score: 2

      No, you're not missing anything. You know Hollywood, they can't do math. Have you seen the damages asked in their lawsuits?

      Next thing you know they'll want us to believe there was more than two Alien movies.

    2. Re:4 and 5 ??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I know a guy who actually believes there are 6 Star Wars films.

    3. Re:4 and 5 ??? by tekrat · · Score: 1

      It's like that other film "Ocean's Eleven" .... Where the hell was parts one to ten? And if you think this is a joke, they *did* make a sequel and named it "Ocean's Twelve". So where are the other films?

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    4. Re:4 and 5 ??? by 0racle · · Score: 1

      I bet he also thinks there are 4 Indiana Jones movies.

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    5. Re:4 and 5 ??? by The+Grim+Reefer2 · · Score: 1

      It's like that other film "Ocean's Eleven" .... Where the hell was parts one to ten? And if you think this is a joke, they *did* make a sequel and named it "Ocean's Twelve". So where are the other films?

      Oceans 11 was made in 1960 and stared Frank Sinatra, Sammy Davis Jr. , Dean Martin, etc. It was about 11 WWII buddies that robbed several casinos in one night because they had trouble assimilating back into society.

      Not sure what the hell Oceans 12 is.

    6. Re:4 and 5 ??? by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      The "eleven" isn't a sequence number, it's Clooney's penis size...

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    7. Re:4 and 5 ??? by The+Grim+Reefer2 · · Score: 1

      I know a guy who actually believes there are 6 Star Wars films.

      But how many lights does he see?

    8. Re:4 and 5 ??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was also made in the 90's...

        Rating: 7.6/10 - from 145,712 users

      Directed by Steven Soderbergh. Starring George Clooney, Cecelia Ann Birt, Paul L. Nolan. Danny Ocean and his ten accomplices plan to rob three Las Vegas casinos simultaneously.

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      Just because your old doesn't mean you shouldn't google

    9. Re:4 and 5 ??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And I know a guy who actually still thinks these jokes are funny.

    10. Re:4 and 5 ??? by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      You are missing nothing. There was no 2 and 3. Once I thought there was, but I'm sure it was a nightmare.

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    11. Re:4 and 5 ??? by node+3 · · Score: 1

      Surely to produce films 4 and 5, first there must be 2 and 3. Or am I missing something?

      It worked for Star Wars.

    12. Re:4 and 5 ??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I know a guy who actually believes there are 6 Star Wars films.

      Well, of course he's wrong. He forgot the Christmas one. :-D

    13. Re:4 and 5 ??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There! Are! Four! Lights!

    14. Re:4 and 5 ??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What jokes?

    15. Re:4 and 5 ??? by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

      No, you're not missing anything. You know Hollywood, they can't do math. Have you seen the damages asked in their lawsuits?

      Next thing you know they'll want us to believe there was more than two Alien movies.

      It's kind of mysterious how they jumped straight from "Alien" to "Alien 3"...

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    16. Re:4 and 5 ??? by Tetsujin · · Score: 3, Funny

      The "eleven" isn't a sequence number, it's Clooney's penis size...

      In centimeters, I guess.

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    17. Re:4 and 5 ??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And Leonard Part 6, where were 1-5?
      And Remo Williams, the adventure begins. Everyone knows there's an introduction, a body, then a conclusion. Where are the body and conclusion for that one?

    18. Re:4 and 5 ??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Remo a cop in the beginning, he was sitting in the squad car when the bad guys dump him and the car in the river. Cure gives him a new face and name, and Chiun accepts him as a student. That the beginning, the movie and the book are fairly similar. I have yet to read past number 78 in the books...

    19. Re:4 and 5 ??? by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Ignoring and denying history only means it's going to happen again and no one learned anything,. There are 4 alien movies. some of which are crap. Don't let the people involved with them get away by ignoring them...make them pay.

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    20. Re:4 and 5 ??? by The+Grim+Reefer2 · · Score: 1

      Just because your old doesn't mean you shouldn't google

      First of all, just because you're young doesn't mean you shouldn't know the difference between "your" and "you're"

      And second, Woosh...

  4. I already saw The Matrix IV by spun · · Score: 5, Funny

    They called it Inception. It wasn't very good. But Keanu looked more animated than I have ever seen him before. He must have taken acting lessons.

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    1. Re:I already saw The Matrix IV by jd2112 · · Score: 1

      'inception' was nominated for a Best Picture Academy Award earlier today so you are probably in the minority. (I thought it was OK but i'm not sure it merits a Best Picture nomination.)

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    2. Re:I already saw The Matrix IV by icebraining · · Score: 1

      I still prefer Memento.

    3. Re:I already saw The Matrix IV by cyclomedia · · Score: 1

      I maintain that Insomnia is still probably Nolan's best work, despite being a remake. Personally to have Al Pacino on screen in front of you and forget that you're watching Al Pacino acting was a really odd experience, says something about the immersiveness of it (is that even a word??)

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    4. Re:I already saw The Matrix IV by captjc · · Score: 1

      Actually, Neo find himself in the afterlife where he challenges Death to board games with the stakes of reincarnation. After winning, Death takes him up to heaven where he enlists the help of two Martian scientists to create a robot Neo out of spare parts.

      He goes back to Earth and he and Morpheus travel back in time in a phone booth with Rufus, do some shit, save Trinity from getting killed, and start a bad-ass band in the 1980s with Death.

      There is a sweet ending montage to the song "God Gave Rock and Roll To You" by KISS where it is revealed that the Band, known as "Wyld Stallyns" creates world peace and stops the Matrix from coming into existence. Death has a brief solo career but eventually comes back. The End.

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  5. It's too late... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They'll be making them now that a rumor gave them the idea.

  6. And once again... by SpryGuy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    And once again, a like makes it all the way around the world before the truth even gets its pants on.

    Does anyone actually verify anything any more?

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    1. Re:And once again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not really. No more than anyone proof-reads their posts.

    2. Re:And once again... by gQuigs · · Score: 4, Funny

      And once again, a psot makes it all the way out of preview before proofreading gets its pants on.

      Does anyone actually proofread anything anymore?

    3. Re:And once again... by Anonymous+Cowpat · · Score: 4, Funny

      Does anyone actually proofread anything anymore?

      Just what sort of website do you think you've stumbled upon here, buddy?

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    4. Re:And once again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I you have a spelling mistake there.

    5. Re:And once again... by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      Does anyone actually verify anything any more?

      Well this was just entertainment fluff. I mean, its about a movie. Were it more weighty issues, like public policy or health, people would verify it first.

      giggle... snicker... chortle...

    6. Re:And once again... by cacba · · Score: 1

      They get rewarded for stories, not verification. I dont keep track of which random website didnt verify their story because it just happens way too often.

      If only some clever person would create a system that did track the reputation of organizations and individual writers.

    7. Re:And once again... by lennier · · Score: 1

      And once again, a like makes it all the way around the world before the truth even gets its pants on.

      We can thank Facebook for that.

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    8. Re:And once again... by foobsr · · Score: 1

      proofread

      Believe it or not, I recently saw a Hospital-Magazine with a front page headline stating ... —Syndrum (which correctly would be ...—Syndrom).

      CC.

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    9. Re:And once again... by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 1

      Believe it or not, I recently saw a Hospital-Magazine with a front page headline stating ... --Syndrum (which correctly would be ...--Syndrom).

      Actually, it would be -Syndrome

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    10. Re:And once again... by Calydor · · Score: 1

      Depends on the language of the magazine. In my language it really is 'syndrom' with no e at the end.

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    11. Re:And once again... by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 1

      I'm curious then - what language?

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    12. Re:And once again... by Tim+the+Gecko · · Score: 1

      I'm curious then - what language?

      From the interwiki links at the side of Wikipedia's "Syndrome" page it could be Czech, German, Norwegian or Swedish

    13. Re:And once again... by Calydor · · Score: 1

      Or Danish, as the case is for me.

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    14. Re:And once again... by Sockatume · · Score: 1

      The WB response includes some misinformation of its own: the school in question quite definitively does exist. In fact, the director of that school has debunked the rumour elsewhere!

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    15. Re:And once again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And once again, a psot makes... Does anyone actually proofread anything anymore?

      >proofread

      >psot

    16. Re:And once again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And once again, a psot makes it all the way out of preview before proofreading gets its pants on.

      Does anyone actually proofread anything anymore?

      !oN

    17. Re:And once again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Proofreading is not the same as fact-checking. Fact-checking is the word you were looking fo:

      Proofread: marking technical errors in writing the language and art
      Fact-checking: verifying facts in a document

      Fact-checking takes substantially more time. (please proofread the hyphen in 'fact-chekcing')

    18. Re:And once again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Rotsky, is that you?

  7. Not necessarily... BUT... by denzacar · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...there sure exists strong evidence of absence of spoon.

    Or perhaps the whole thing was just a glitch.

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    1. Re:Not necessarily... BUT... by kimvette · · Score: 2

      Good point. I can recognize that there are no sequels: there is only The Matrix. Reloaded and Revolutions were merely rumors, and 4 and 5 obviously cannot exist if 2 and 3 were never made. :)

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    2. Re:Not necessarily... BUT... by Stregano · · Score: 1

      I have no clue what you are talking about, but this is why jobs drug test. Stop smoking before you go into work and post on /. since you are ruining it for the other people out there

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    3. Re:Not necessarily... BUT... by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      The Matrix had no sequels. I read a killer script for a sequel, and I wish they'd have made it, it would have been so awesome!

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    4. Re:Not necessarily... BUT... by aquila.solo · · Score: 1

      Was it this one? (Note: /.'s new and improvised comment system doesn't seem to go directly to the comment anymore. You might have to navigate for it.)

  8. Float the rumor by Culture20 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Float the rumor, datamine the cyber-zeigeist, and somebody order me lunch; I'm starving.

    1. Re:Float the rumor by ElectricTurtle · · Score: 1

      Dude, seriously, ^THIS^

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    2. Re:Float the rumor by zero0ne · · Score: 1

      You are forgetting the Profit!!..... step.

    3. Re:Float the rumor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Float the turd, see who pokes it. Damn, now I am hungry too.

    4. Re:Float the rumor by lennier · · Score: 2

      datamine the cyber-zeigeist

      But sir - the twitterati are already blogging and we've got multiple pingbacks inbound! If we don't cross-site script the XML to a recursive realtime JSON feed in the next thirty seconds we'll 404 the memebases! ALL OF THEM!

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    5. Re:Float the rumor by Culture20 · · Score: 1

      datamine the cyber-zeigeist

      But sir - the twitterati are already blogging and we've got multiple pingbacks inbound! If we don't cross-site script the XML to a recursive realtime JSON feed in the next thirty seconds we'll 404 the memebases! ALL OF THEM!

      Go to the head of the class.

    6. Re:Float the rumor by MadKeithV · · Score: 1

      datamine the cyber-zeigeist

      But sir - the twitterati are already blogging and we've got multiple pingbacks inbound! If we don't cross-site script the XML to a recursive realtime JSON feed in the next thirty seconds we'll 404 the memebases! ALL OF THEM!

      It doesn't matter.
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      Especially base-64.

  9. What? by Mr.Fork · · Score: 1

    Marketing hype? maybe...

    Warner Media Rep: Do not try and create a movie. That's impossible. Instead only try to realize the truth.
    News Reporter: What truth?
    Warner Media Rep: There is no new Matrix movie.
    News Reporter: There is no new Matrix movie?
    Warner Boy: Then you'll see that it's not the movie with Keanu that appears, it is only Neo himself.

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  10. Phew! I'm relieved... by Isarian · · Score: 1

    ...time to order me a club sandwich and a cold Mexican beer to celebrate.

    1. Re:Phew! I'm relieved... by somersault · · Score: 1

      In hindsight, Bill and Ted 3 really should have given it away as fake, but I thought perhaps he'd mellowed in his disgust that it's often what people associate him with the most.

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    2. Re:Phew! I'm relieved... by tbannist · · Score: 1

      What? I was looking forward to Neo waking up, turning to Bill and saying "I just had the most righteous dream!"

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  11. There was only one by h00manist · · Score: 1

    The rest was crap. Mostly because they forgot about all the technology and mysticism they had slowly concocted for the first one and which made it interesting, and just went with the guns and explosions and special effects that any other movie has, but sells anyways. If they went back to the original idea, they could do a whole series, but just with guns and graphics, there's nothing original.

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    1. Re:There was only one by badboy_tw2002 · · Score: 1

      How can you say there was a lack of mysticism? Did you actually need him nailed to the cross by squids to get the ridiculously overdone Jesus references?

    2. Re:There was only one by Stregano · · Score: 3, Interesting

      He was. At the end of the 3rd movie, notice how he is laying when they pull him away. I promise you that I am one of the 17 people on the planet that love all the Matrix movies enough to explain every single scene to the "meh, blah blah blah Matrix 2 and 3 sucked" people.

      Agent Smith represented everything that was wrong with us. He would lie (example: "Oh, I am not a bad guy, once you get to know me"), gluttony (all of those Agent Smiths were not needed), murder, vanity. He represented our sins, but on an extreme "I can fly in the air and do cool moves" sort of way.

      Neo's name even represented the new changes that would come along with him, similar to Jesus. He was in love, and was soul-less enough to be willing to lose his life to save humanity (soul-less as in he was like a Jedi where you think outwardly).

      Now you may ask, "Well if Smith is sins, then sins killed Jesus?" No, Mr. You need to pay closer attention to details. The big robot head killed Neo. This is something that I explained in another post, but I am on a roll right now, so I am going to say it again. The Oracle said that Smith was Neo's counter-balance. Neo also proved that as a balance, he can merge with Smith and survive. Once Neo merged, you could see the big robot head pump electricity into Neo to kill him. If the robot head had waited, Neo would have survived.

      There needs to be balance to the equation, so if Neo takes out Agent Smith, there is no balance, so once Neo merged with Smith, to ensure they were not out of balance, the big robot head pumped Neo with electricity (that is what it looks like), effectively killing them both at the same time since at that given moment, they are partially one. Remember, it is a machine. It does not deal in chance, it deals in what needs to be done.

      So, somebody who you thought was helping you, ends up killing you, sounds like what happened to Jesus with P Pilot.

      More imagery: Agent Smith seems to take form as multiple things, and I could be wrong with some of this, but as Christian folk have told me, Demons help with sins and they are always trying to find a way into our realm of existence (Agent Smith "possessing" Bane anybody?)

      Jesus blindly helping his fellow man. They went pretty literal in the movies here.

      Come on! The human city was called Zion! Did you see how bright and Brilliant white the room was with the Gate Keepers?

      See, one of the cool things they did with the later ones that they did with the first one was even though they talked about stuff, they never really explained it. They did that alot in the first one to bring about that "Are we living in a Truman Show?" type deal. But they shifted more focus to Neo in the later 2 movies instead of concentrating on giving us this awesome "We all might be in the matrix right now" type of thinking, but the questions do not go away. How was Neo able to see without human eyes? How was he able to fight sentinels, basically, with his mind? Is Neo part robot? Is the place Neo at basically just a horrible "overflow" server that they put the people who thought they got freed (As Morpheus says, "Have you ever had a dream that was so real, that you weren't sure if you were awak or asleep?") If this is some kind of "overflow" server, does that mean that the Zionites are really programs themselves?

      We truly do not know, but the story itself still brings up these questions. I am sorry that all you paid attention to (not the person directly above me, but the people above him) were the fancy special effects. There is alot more to all 3 movies than you are seeing kids. Free your minds.



      I will stop here since this comment is nested pretty far down and chances are nobody will ever read it except for the person I replied to, but seriously, yes, the later movies had alot of special effects. They were flashy. They had action, but they did not derail from basically making Neo Jesus. Anybody who begs to differ, by all means reply to me. We can get into how the last 2 were just as good as the first one.

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    3. Re:There was only one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, I think the story parallels a very old non-Christian story. I saw at an animation festival once (1988? 1989?) a movie about a future world, where someone was born into the world, destined to be a world-changing hero. The world had an overlord, who enjoyed doing genetic manipulations to make a superior race. Well, the guy was born into the castoffs, but wasn't obviously malformed. Anyways, the dude had some powers, and fit into a prophecy that would see the end of the overlord. As the dude got more powerful, the overlord got more worried, etc.

      Well, at the end, the dude was able to defeat the overlord, but he was consumed in the effort. Balance and harmony, at least for a bit, was returned to the world.

      But, the catch at the end was that the story would eventually repeat itself in the future...

      I haven't read any of Joseph Campbell's books, so I can't tell you which story archetype this is...

      The Matrix movies fit this story archetype quite well.

    4. Re:There was only one by badboy_tw2002 · · Score: 1

      I was specifically referencing that scene, and earlier when he "walks on water". They didn't nail him on the cross but he was in the pose.

      I'm with you that I enjoyed both films, maybe minus the "downtime" scenes w/ the rave in #2. But the highway chase? Mech warrior things fighting a million squids? Awesome.

      The problem is people built the first one up so much that when the 2nd and 3rd didn't show something as revolutionary as the first they were disappointed. (And the hippie rave.)

    5. Re:There was only one by Stregano · · Score: 1

      Ok, you are correct, the hippie rave was dumb. I could probably say it symbolized something, but that scene was horrible. Even down to Morpheus himself. That is another example. Crew of Neberkinezer (sorry about the spelling on that one) = apostles (well, they did after the first movie)

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    6. Re:There was only one by nomadic · · Score: 1

      The first one wasn't that great either. Don't believe me? Go re-watch it.

    7. Re:There was only one by badboy_tw2002 · · Score: 1

      I thought Morpheus == John the Baptist, and then the helicopter == the mule when Jesus and Mary Magdeline broke John out of the military holding cell....ok, maybe its not all so easy :)

  12. Re:I am confused by Surt · · Score: 1

    Can we apply an exception for the highway chase, sort of like the exception for the light-saber duel that is the only part of SWI that exists?

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  13. Nothing is certain to happen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    until it has been officially denied.

  14. Taking over the torch for Duke Nuke'em by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We may finally have a new contender for the longest vaporware award. This same rumor is likely to crop up every year from here on out. The irony is if there's enough interest from the fans it may be a self fulfilling prophecy. Remember the studios can't see a difference between bad press from people hoping this won't happen and fans clamoring for it.

    1. Re:Taking over the torch for Duke Nuke'em by sjwt · · Score: 1

      DN forever is still vaporware until I have installed and played it!

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  15. Sad Keanu thinks its for the best by grapeape · · Score: 1

    Thank god...I loved the first one but the second and third were so awful I havent been able to even watch the first one since..there was alot of potential but they killed it...let it stay dead.

  16. Rumor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wonder if the first rumor was just a phishing experiment, to see if folks wanted another movie yet...

  17. Testing the water by Dan+East · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You know, considering it can be done totally free, I wonder if there would be value in a studio creating a false rumor like this, then surveying the public response on social networks and sites like this in order to get a feel for the market / fanbase for potential sequel?

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    1. Re:Testing the water by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

      then surveying the public response

      It's not important what the public thinks. What matters, is what potential investors (backers) of the film think. Or more refined, what the potential investors think the public thinks. A few fudged survey numbers, and a good PowerPoint, and the producers can convince the investors that the doomed sequel will be a success.

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    2. Re:Testing the water by cvnautilus · · Score: 1

      No, I'm pretty sure it matters whether or not the consumers of the product will have any interest in consuming said product.

    3. Re:Testing the water by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isnt this how apple creates products?

    4. Re:Testing the water by noidentity · · Score: 2

      Yes, it's called a trial balloon.

    5. Re:Testing the water by dAzED1 · · Score: 1

      not only that, but I saw a lot of great plot ideas for 4/5 at various boards; they not only got a trial balloon, they got plot ideas!

  18. More likely by overshoot · · Score: 2

    Perhaps the film deities have shown us mercy just this once."

    Alternately, the flood of responses gave them the idea that the public can't wait for more Matrix flix and (in the best SF paradox traditions) the horrible eventuality we sought to prevent has been caused by our own efforts.

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  19. Not using Keanu by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

    They are planning on using the performance capture technology from Avatar to superimpose Keanu Reeve's face on somebody who can actually act!

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    1. Re:Not using Keanu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He sort of is Neo, now... kind of owns the character, more or less.

  20. The school exists- by ChinggisK · · Score: 1

    The school appears to be real, actually - www.lispa.co.uk

    1. Re:The school exists- by Revotron · · Score: 1

      Do you really expect film execs to know how to use Google? I mean Christ, they're the same people who have kept Michael Bay gainfully employed. Can't be much there in terms of ingenuity.

  21. LISPA exists. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    http://www.lispa.co.uk/

    Nice fact checking there.

  22. I see what you did their. by Brannon · · Score: 1

    funney

  23. The matrix by SnarfQuest · · Score: 1

    Maybe the rumors are true outside of the matrix. He can hop in and out of it, you know.

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  24. Wachowskis by Myria · · Score: 2

    The Wachowskis aren't brothers anymore. I wish people would stop referring to them as such.

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    1. Re:Wachowskis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

      And Michael Jackson was white, right? Bullshit. Michael Jackson was always black, no matter that he bleached his skin, and Larry Wachowski will always be a male, no matter that he no longer has a penis (the correct term: "castration"). What they did to their outsides does not change what really counts: their genes.

    2. Re:Wachowskis by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 2

      no matter that he no longer has a penis (the correct term: "castration").

      Don't correct people when you don't know what you're talking about.

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    3. Re:Wachowskis by spaceyhackerlady · · Score: 2

      Sad.

      If you had any idea of the hell transsexual people go through growing up you would feel differently about this.

      I went through that hell. I'm not genetically female, but I was always a girl in my heart, where it counts. Physically, I'm as female as the doctors could make me. I have to tell doctors I'm transsexual, because they can't tell.

      I'm me.

    4. Re:Wachowskis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wat

    5. Re:Wachowskis by ediron2 · · Score: 1

      At first thought you were pushing a fake _yet another bogus detail_ troll. Hadn't heard about the gender change, but what's it matter, really.

      So now we call them The Wachowski's. Big deal. Even saves a word. It's not like the Baldwins, where there are several actors to confuse, including one that's unrelated(The Man they call Jayne!).

    6. Re:Wachowskis by strawberryutopia · · Score: 1

      This. And same here (well... a few years behind in the process).

      It really annoys me too when they are referred to as "brothers". It annoys me more when people "correct" those people who CORRECT the people who refer to them as brothers. Though even that doesn't annoy me as much as when people refer to them as the Wachowskis and someone "corrects" them, proactively stating that they refusing to recognise her gender, or when people deliberately refer to them as brothers, with a snide footnote. Thankfully I have not seen much of the latter round these parts.

      Sigh. I expected better from Slashdotters.

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  25. Re:I am confused by roc97007 · · Score: 1

    > Can we apply an exception for the highway chase, sort of like the exception for the light-saber duel that is the only part of SWI that exists?

    I would reluctantly say, no. I personally can't bring myself to acknowledge the highway chase because of its association with the rest of Matrix 2, if it existed.

    This goes triple for the light saber duel in some Star Wars prequel if it actually existed. (As far as I'm concerned, the last Star Wars film was released 31 years ago.)

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  26. A better rumor... by roc97007 · · Score: 1

    ...would have been that the Wachowski brothers have announced that they're going to remake Matrix 2 and 3 except they'd actually have a story worth telling this time.

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  27. Re:I am confused by Martin+Blank · · Score: 1

    Too long and drawn out. I got bored half-way through. Good concept, but they tried to do too much with it.

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  28. Not brothers... by Low+Ranked+Craig · · Score: 4, Informative

    Larry is Lana now.

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    1. Re:Not brothers... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hahahaha. I thought you were joking. "The Wachowski siblings" doesn't quite have the same ring, though.

    2. Re:Not brothers... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They are still brothers because they are still both men and always will be, despite what one of them pretends to be. No amount of cross dressing, hormone treatments and surgery can turn a man into a woman.

    3. Re:Not brothers... by Espectr0 · · Score: 1

      not true according to wikipedia

    4. Re:Not brothers... by Ginger+Unicorn · · Score: 1

      It sounds like you're talking from bitter experience

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  29. As long as we're in denial here... by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

    Good point. I can recognize that there are no sequels: there is only The Matrix. Reloaded and Revolutions were merely rumors, and 4 and 5 obviously cannot exist if 2 and 3 were never made. :)

    Of course they can! Haven't you seen the Star Wars trilogy? Those movies are "episodes" 4, 5, and 6. And they never made "episodes" 1-3.

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  30. Suckage alert. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A rash of false positive stories *should* qualify slashdot as officially sucking. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

    1. Re:Suckage alert. by Skidborg · · Score: 1

      At least Slashdot has the decency to run stories which correct older stories on the front page. That's a lot better than most top level news agencies do.

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  31. Doesn't exist? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.lispa.co.uk/

  32. Oceans 12 is this surrealist art movie... by denzacar · · Score: 2

    ...from couple of years ago.

    There is this scene with Julia Roberts pretending to be a woman who is pretending to be Julia Roberts WHILE talking on a phone to another instance of Julia Roberts pretending to be Julia Roberts.
    Kinda like this scene only a level or two more fucked up.
    Granted, Bruce Willis showing up and pretending to be JUST Bruce Willis is a bit of a letdown, but the movie makes it up in utter lack of entertainment (in the classic meaning of the word).

    Clearly, Ocean's 12 was envisioned as a critique of the entire summer blockbuster genre (they even satirized that by releasing it in December), with its overdose of stars and utter lack of coherence or meaningful plot - but apparently people failed to get the joke.
    So, they said "What the hell, let's at least make a shitload of money" and reused that same formula and made Ocean's 13.

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  33. There ARE six Star Wars movies by Fallingcow · · Score: 1

    1. A New Hope
    2. The Star Wars Christmas Special
    3. The Empire Strikes Back
    4. The Return of the Jedi
    5. Caravan of Courage: An Ewok Adventure
    6. Ewoks: The Battle for Endor

    1. Re:There ARE six Star Wars movies by GuruBuckaroo · · Score: 2

      You forgot the lost Han Solo movie, "Serenity".

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    2. Re:There ARE six Star Wars movies by __aatirs3925 · · Score: 1

      (offtopic) And the family guy star wars movies, and spaceballs. Matrix 2 and 3 weren't that bad IMO but I only watched them once unlike most other cyberpunk films I've watched which were 5-8 times each.

  34. That school is real, the event was not. by Khopesh · · Score: 1

    Such a school does indeed exist, though it has the word "International" in it: London International School of Performing Arts (LIPSA). However, LIPSA denies Keanu was there. I'm surprised Wired didn't bother to do a little more research to determine whether the school exists. I'm also surprised Warner Bros was so snide in its proclamation that the school didn't exist as that could be construed as an attempt at a cover-up (except for the fact that event never happened anyway).

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  35. Not the Wachowski brothers by dbIII · · Score: 4, Funny

    The rumor that Keanu Reeves was in talks with the Wachowski brothers

    It's a different director for the next Matrix movies - Uwe Boll.
    Paris Hilton is cast as Trinity and John Travolta is playing Morpheus. It's a reboot where instead of being batteries for the machines the humans are sex toys but for ratings purposes there will be no nudity. Ahmed Best is voicing the amusing machine sidekick who helps the heroes fight the bumbling Agent Smith played by Adam Sandler.

    1. Re:Not the Wachowski brothers by owlnation · · Score: 1

      It's a different director for the next Matrix movies - Uwe Boll. Paris Hilton is cast as Trinity and John Travolta is playing Morpheus. It's a reboot where instead of being batteries for the machines the humans are sex toys but for ratings purposes there will be no nudity. Ahmed Best is voicing the amusing machine sidekick who helps the heroes fight the bumbling Agent Smith played by Adam Sandler.

      Ah... I was interested in seeing this until the no nudity part. It sounded better than any of the Matrix movies. Add some nudity and I'm in. Add nudity in 3d and I'm definitely in.

    2. Re:Not the Wachowski brothers by datsa · · Score: 1

      I would actually pay to see this, except there's no Jack Black...

    3. Re:Not the Wachowski brothers by phorm · · Score: 1

      And yet that still sounds better than the last of the series...

    4. Re:Not the Wachowski brothers by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      So they're just redoing the third, I get it?

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  36. Re:I am confused by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 1

    I know I'm the only one ever to say this, but I loved the second two. Except the chase. That was weak.

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  37. Oh no... Do you realize what that means? by grimJester · · Score: 1

    They just found out there are loads of people who liked the first movie but have no idea the sequels were ever made. I'll laugh my ass off when I see a huge marketing push for Matrix 2 & 3.

  38. Plus he has been too busy by geekoid · · Score: 1

    studying up to play Tron in the sequel....

    BAZINGA!

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  39. Obviously a tipoff by funwithBSD · · Score: 1

    for the title...

    Maxtrix: Reversed

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    1. Re:Obviously a tipoff by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Oh c'mon, no average movie goer would understand that. It's like the Polar bear joke.

      Instead you can rest assured it will be:

      Matrix: Reinstalled
      Matrix: Refurbished
      Matrix: Release candidate

      Or, my personal favorites:

      Matrix: Restored
      Matrix: Rebooted.

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  40. Awww I was so excited by nilbog · · Score: 1

    As I recently converted to Keanuism, a religion I invented (and by invented I mean discovered) that believes Keanu is an immortal being who is sending us messages through his films, I was looking forward to the 4th and 5th gospels of Keanu.

    I'm not sure what to make of Point Break, but Keanu works in mysterious ways.

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  41. No Matrix! No Playboy! by countertrolling · · Score: 1

    Can't the rumor mill get anything right?

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  42. There is no spoon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From the previous article:

    At an event that took place at the London International School of Performing Arts, 'Reeves revealed that he met with the Wachowskis around Christmas.

    From the current one:

    Representatives from Warner Bros. spoke to Wired and called the rumors 'bunk,' pointing out that the school Reeves was supposedly accepting an award from when he made the announcement doesn't actually exist.

    Are they SURE it doesn't exist? If so then the following site must be a fake:

    http://www.lispa.co.uk/

  43. Bogus Dude! by stiggle · · Score: 1

    On the BBC he did discuss the possibility of another Bill & Ted though, musing on Bill & Ted being in their 50's.

    1. Re:Bogus Dude! by BiggoronSword · · Score: 1

      I hope this means they finally have Eddy Van Halen and learned how to play.

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