Yep, it certainly seemed to take his VM being replaced by AA's that made Rik wake up, whether or not Linus specifically meant it to happen that way. I remember early in the 2.4 series where Rik's response on lkml to the torrant of "the VM sucks" mail wasn't any concern or embarassment, but rather "patches are welcome" or "pay me to fix it".
Definitely true, although as a particular stable kernel matures the stock kernel becomes fine itself, even if missing the added goodies some distributions add for you (eg. Mandrake has had reiserfs in 2.2 for a long time, and SuSe has had LFS (> 2GB files) in 2.2).
However, as far as Conectiva specifically goes, I'd be pissed if Marcelo added stability fixes to their kernel that he didn't admit to the stock one!
That's OK, because I live in a fodforsaken part of the country where I can only get 28.8K dialup service.:-( The upside is that I don't have to worry about DoS attacks from script kiddies!
The real problem appears to be Linus. Note that people like Alan Cox, Marcelo Tosatti, Andrea Arcangeli all seem to be able to maintain stable kernel trees - the only one who apparently can't is Linux.
This isn't meant to be flamebait. Think about it - it's true.
It's also noteworthy that in recent interviews people like Alan Cox and Rik Van Riel have distanced themselves from Linus...
It seems the Linus is much like someone who has the energy to create a start-up, but needs to bring in professional experienced managers once the company gets bigger and more complex than his ability to manage it.
Huh? The VM is flawed by design - you can't fix that by "fiddling with the compiler". If your 2.4 kernel appears stable then it's simply because you're not stressing the VM.
Pure crap. 2.2 was stable way before that. I'm running Mandrake 7.1 with the 2.2.15 kernel, and it's solid as a rock. Hell, we're only at 2.2.20 now... it's hardly changed in the last few years.
Open source OpenGL already exists - it's called Mesa, and given that SGI have not fought it (in fact AFAIK they've been quite friendly towards it), I doubt Microsoft would be able to... IANAL but I beleive if you don't defend your rights you lose them.. although I hope Microsoft's buying the patent rights doesn't given them a legal angle to pursue Mesa if they chose to.
You're assuming that Microsoft already has, or at some point will have, more X-box's in the channel than they will ever sell without the cooperation of our wanna-screw-microsoft purchasers. I think you're wrong.
Their forecasting is not going to be perfect, and they have to err on the side of overproduction to avoid starving the channel, but I assert that the degree of overforcasting/building will only be to the degree that they have more money *temporarily* tied up in channel inventory than would be optimal; not that they will ever over-produce to the point that they exceed the remaining end-of-life sales of the product, which is your assertion.
Your scenario assumes Microsoft's forecasting and X-box sales to be catastrophically bad to a degree that is wishfull thinking and unrealistic.
You're assumng that Microsoft has a warehouse of these things pre-built that will never sell unless you step up to the plate to buy one. In reality they are only going to build enough to keep the channel full. For them to be left with unsellable inventory would mean that demand would have to dry up so fast that they couldn't adapt.
You're argument is like saying that you can make GM lose $10,000 by not buying one of their cars because then it'd be left to rot on a storage lot someplace. Yes, that'd be true if it ever happened, but in reality if demand slowed they'd cut down on production (well, duh!).
What your marketing class apparently missed is that companies usually sell products at a profit, not at a loss (as Microsoft is doing). Can't you see that it makes a difference?!!!
Because games writers have to write to the lowest common denominator of the hardware their game is going to run on. The whole point of games consoles is that the hardware is fixed and games developers can therefore take it as a given and exploit it... it also means they are cheap to manufacture.
Is 120,000 South Koreans sending emails spreading the good word from commrade Stallman to any North Koreans who sends them.doc attachments. It'll probably start a war.
Nice idea, and I'd buy one if they were on sale, but it does seem to be missing a few things such as a keyboard, mouse, monitor, and most importantly a power supply (I doubt that $40 case comes with a $300 Athlon power supply). No CD-RW or DVD either, but I guess that's OK for a budget box.
Does anyone actually sell these type configurations for $500 ?
People just click on mail attachments, and could generally care less what program gets fired up to view it - whether it's Word (.doc) (if they have it), Acroread (.pdf) or their browser (.html).
I don't care for Stallman's mind numbing pedantry, but there is a simple point there - that.doc is not a cross-platform standard. The (major Telco) I work for uses Sun boxes for developers, not Windows, and so sending.doc or.xls to anyone here will not win you any favors. Quite franky anyone computer literate would send in a standard format in the first place, and not make any assumptions about what operating system or applications the person on the other end is using...
I'm thinking of switching to SuSE myself (current Mandrake user), mainly to get an LFS (Large File System - > 2GB) enhanced 2.2 kernel which SuSE has (seeing as the 2.4 VM *still* sucks, and I have to wonder if it'll ever be fixed, or we'll have to wait for 2.6)... Anyway, what's wrong with 7.3? Would you recommend 7.2?
Interesting. I guess my gut feel for the capacity of the airlines was wrong. But no doubt in practice it'd still be a complete SNAFU due to goverment bungling and failure to organise, but it's interesting to see that the capacity to evacuate is actually pretty good. However in reality even if all resources were commandeered and utilized, I expect the real bottleneck might prove to be getting people to the exit points via road and train... Imageine EVERYONE in the UK trying to park even remotely near the exit points, and the back-ups that would ensue! I wonder if the government even models for this type of scenario?
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Yep, it certainly seemed to take his VM being replaced by AA's that made Rik wake up, whether or not Linus specifically meant it to happen that way. I remember early in the 2.4 series where Rik's response on lkml to the torrant of "the VM sucks" mail wasn't any concern or embarassment, but rather "patches are welcome" or "pay me to fix it".
You need to experience the true joy of fsck-less reiserfs!
Same thing here, BTW - the only time I ever have to reboot is where X hangs.
Definitely true, although as a particular stable kernel matures the stock kernel becomes fine itself, even if missing the added goodies some distributions add for you (eg. Mandrake has had reiserfs in 2.2 for a long time, and SuSe has had LFS (> 2GB files) in 2.2).
However, as far as Conectiva specifically goes, I'd be pissed if Marcelo added stability fixes to their kernel that he didn't admit to the stock one!
That's OK, because I live in a fodforsaken part of the country where I can only get 28.8K dialup service. :-( The upside is that I don't have to worry about DoS attacks from script kiddies!
Who said open source? Use a closed source mail program for all I care. Either way it's got nothing to do with the kernel.
The real problem appears to be Linus. Note that people like Alan Cox, Marcelo Tosatti, Andrea Arcangeli all seem to be able to maintain stable kernel trees - the only one who apparently can't is Linux.
This isn't meant to be flamebait. Think about it - it's true.
It's also noteworthy that in recent interviews people like Alan Cox and Rik Van Riel have distanced themselves from Linus...
It seems the Linus is much like someone who has the energy to create a start-up, but needs to bring in professional experienced managers once the company gets bigger and more complex than his ability to manage it.
Huh? The VM is flawed by design - you can't fix that by "fiddling with the compiler". If your 2.4 kernel appears stable then it's simply because you're not stressing the VM.
So if your mail program crashes then choose another one! Doh!
I am running the entire system in RAM
Sure, but it's when you try to do something radical (sarcasm) like using swap / VM that the thing falls apart.
Pure crap. 2.2 was stable way before that. I'm running Mandrake 7.1 with the 2.2.15 kernel, and it's solid as a rock. Hell, we're only at 2.2.20 now... it's hardly changed in the last few years.
Open source OpenGL already exists - it's called Mesa, and given that SGI have not fought it (in fact AFAIK they've been quite friendly towards it), I doubt Microsoft would be able to... IANAL but I beleive if you don't defend your rights you lose them.. although I hope Microsoft's buying the patent rights doesn't given them a legal angle to pursue Mesa if they chose to.
It deserves the scare quotes because it's a security analyst pushing one of his stocks - it's not an objective report.
You're assuming that Microsoft already has, or at some point will have, more X-box's in the channel than they will ever sell without the cooperation of our wanna-screw-microsoft purchasers. I think you're wrong.
Their forecasting is not going to be perfect, and they have to err on the side of overproduction to avoid starving the channel, but I assert that the degree of overforcasting/building will only be to the degree that they have more money *temporarily* tied up in channel inventory than would be optimal; not that they will ever over-produce to the point that they exceed the remaining end-of-life sales of the product, which is your assertion.
Your scenario assumes Microsoft's forecasting and X-box sales to be catastrophically bad to a degree that is wishfull thinking and unrealistic.
You're assumng that Microsoft has a warehouse of these things pre-built that will never sell unless you step up to the plate to buy one. In reality they are only going to build enough to keep the channel full. For them to be left with unsellable inventory would mean that demand would have to dry up so fast that they couldn't adapt.
You're argument is like saying that you can make GM lose $10,000 by not buying one of their cars because then it'd be left to rot on a storage lot someplace. Yes, that'd be true if it ever happened, but in reality if demand slowed they'd cut down on production (well, duh!).
What your marketing class apparently missed is that companies usually sell products at a profit, not at a loss (as Microsoft is doing). Can't you see that it makes a difference?!!!
Because games writers have to write to the lowest common denominator of the hardware their game is going to run on. The whole point of games consoles is that the hardware is fixed and games developers can therefore take it as a given and exploit it... it also means they are cheap to manufacture.
Huh? Which part of "they lose $90 per box" didn't you understand?!
You buy a box, they lose $90
You don't buy a box, they lose $0
You only help them recoup the cost when you buy the actual games.
Is 120,000 South Koreans sending emails spreading the good word from commrade Stallman to any North Koreans who sends them .doc attachments. It'll probably start a war.
Nice idea, and I'd buy one if they were on sale, but it does seem to be missing a few things such as a keyboard, mouse, monitor, and most importantly a power supply (I doubt that $40 case comes with a $300 Athlon power supply). No CD-RW or DVD either, but I guess that's OK for a budget box.
Does anyone actually sell these type configurations for $500 ?
People just click on mail attachments, and could generally care less what program gets fired up to view it - whether it's Word (.doc) (if they have it), Acroread (.pdf) or their browser (.html).
.doc is not a cross-platform standard. The (major Telco) I work for uses Sun boxes for developers, not Windows, and so sending .doc or .xls to anyone here will not win you any favors. Quite franky anyone computer literate would send in a standard format in the first place, and not make any assumptions about what operating system or applications the person on the other end is using...
I don't care for Stallman's mind numbing pedantry, but there is a simple point there - that
Could you imagine a beowulf cluster of these running Linux?!
:-(
Sorry - someone had to say it
Broadband is a tool to further our national identity.
So that'll make you a bunch of funny talking hosers with fast internet, ay?
I'm thinking of switching to SuSE myself (current Mandrake user), mainly to get an LFS (Large File System - > 2GB) enhanced 2.2 kernel which SuSE has (seeing as the 2.4 VM *still* sucks, and I have to wonder if it'll ever be fixed, or we'll have to wait for 2.6)... Anyway, what's wrong with 7.3? Would you recommend 7.2?
Thanks! I just Google'd and found a site with some cool pictures of the beast. I can see that das Blinkenlights are indeed a key feature! :-)
BeBox pictures
What was so special about the Be hardware? I thought BeOS ran on standard PC hardware.
Interesting. I guess my gut feel for the capacity of the airlines was wrong. But no doubt in practice it'd still be a complete SNAFU due to goverment bungling and failure to organise, but it's interesting to see that the capacity to evacuate is actually pretty good. However in reality even if all resources were commandeered and utilized, I expect the real bottleneck might prove to be getting people to the exit points via road and train... Imageine EVERYONE in the UK trying to park even remotely near the exit points, and the back-ups that would ensue! I wonder if the government even models for this type of scenario?