except for GPS drive, there is nothing that is worth even messing with...
Obviously I've done a bad job promoting pygps. Or is it one of the ones you think is too young to use? Actually, it's older than gpsdrive. I just haven't worked on it (nor had as many contributors) as Fritz. -russ
You're excited about getting a Nigerian scam email?? I must get a dozen of these a day. Once in a while they get creative: they're from Zim, or South Africa. You'd think with the volume of the emails they're sending out that *everybody* with email must have gotten dozens of these offers by now.
Basically, the scam market is a commons. There's nobody to prevent them from using up the commons with their letters, and so they have. -russ
You said: That is what the argument here is, and that is why many people who write kernel programs don't use graphical tools ANYWAY. Which I think breaks another assumption made by Mr. Raymond about a new config system.
You also said:
Since it is Eric Raymond who is working on CML2, I have to wonder why you keep harping on graphical tools unless you think CML2 is just a graphical kernel configuration system. -russ
Like how do you know the configuation options used on the kernel you are running?
You just cat/proc/config, and it spits out all the CONFIG_* options that were defined when the kernel was compiled. I sent that patch to Linus years ago. -russ
The problem is that dependencies between drivers aren't tracked (at least not well) so it is easy to turn on an option and break your kernel. Solve THAT problem and you win a cookie;
Eric solved that problem with CML2, and all he got was flamed. I think there's a whole pile of people who should apologize to Eric, starting with Linus. -russ
CML2 is not about a graphical config tool. It's about having a set of rules rather than steps for configuring the kernel. CML2 is designed to be scriptable. It's designed for higher-level analysis than CML1 can ever make. It lets you say (for example) "I have no ISA bus", and all the drivers for ISA hardware get turned off. -russ
I asked Eric, and he says that the command-line changes were subtle, that the X and curses changes were more significant, but that nobody complained about them.
And were my cousin-in-law's Aunt Tillie to compile a kernel, 1) she would be able to, and 2) she would want it to work without any muss, fuss, and bother, because 3) she would rather spend her time writing applications than fussing with kernel compiles.
And perhaps Eric just didn't do a good enough sell job, because one of the purposes of CML2 was to obviate "make dep; make clean". -russ
ESR's refusal to update the patches to handle changes Linus made to the core code.
Sorry, you don't have permission to rewrite history. Eric updated his patches, and updated and updated, all the while waiting for Linus to suck in CML2 *like Linus promised*. Finally, he got burned out, and started to publicly wonder WTF was going on. All this time he was being roundly, soundly, and viciously abused by various people on the LKML.
All of which goes to show that Linus's promises are worth nothing. But we all knew that, didn't we?
You're grasping at straws. Patrick was going through a period in his life where he was acting like an asshole. Cheating on his wife, abusing drugs, treating his subordinates like shit. And then he got caught at something he very much should not have been doing by any metric. He was immediately fired, and lost his stock options.
No love lost between him and his former employer. -russ
Oh, he did something wrong. But we must be clear: there was no rape, there was no child. The facts are consistent with Patrick's contention that it was all a fantasy, that all concerned knew it was a fantasy, and that he intended to have sex with an adult posing as a child. After all, the police officer *was* posing as a child. -russ
No, he didn't even do that. *He* crossed state lines. He flew to a conference in which the police officer lived. He arranged to meet her. They met on the boardwalk. He suggested they go to the beach. Boom, handcuffs, jail.
All union growth has been in the public sector for the last ten years. Therefore, for unions to avoid further shrinkage, they must necessarily encourage growth in the public sector. -russ
I haven't figured out how to make the USB slave into a master yet, but it's probably possible.
Alas, no. The USB client is built into the CPU, and it can ONLY be a client. And yes, the serial port is still available, but cords are a Serious Pain in the Butt. -russ
Interesting. "dumbass", eh? I wonder how you would feel if you couldn't get in touch with your doctor and you needed him. You would die, I suppose, and good riddence. -russ
Now you're starting to see the problem. The law will have to be modified to allow people who are on call to attend public performances. And then we'll need an identification card to identify such people. And then a fee to administer the cellphone permit system. And then other groups will say "But we need to have our cellphones all the time." And they'll have to have their permits as well.
Law doesn't engender freedom. Laws engender more laws.
Fishburne's solution was the best. However, he should have gone farther. He should have gone to the front of the stage, asked people to point out the offender, and asked her to leave. And then said to the audience in general "Is YOUR cellphone turned on?" -russ
I agree with you, but I would point out that there is absolutely zero evidence that 1) cellphone use causes accidents, 2) that there aren't other activities of a similar nature which cause more accidents which should be outlawed first (like smoking in your car!), 3) that if there is indeed a problem, that it won't go away, and 4) that requiring headsets is any safer.
It's just a stupid, stupid law which reflects absolutely no thought on the part of legislators -- but did that surprise you? -russ
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What's wrong with GRASS? Version 5.0 just came out.
-russ
except for GPS drive, there is nothing that is worth even messing with...
Obviously I've done a bad job promoting pygps. Or is it one of the ones you think is too young to use? Actually, it's older than gpsdrive. I just haven't worked on it (nor had as many contributors) as Fritz.
-russ
pygps does bitmap maps. Working on vector maps, all within the same application.
-russ
pygps will have this feature in time. Right now I'm working on on-demand map downloading, but navigation is next.
-russ
You're excited about getting a Nigerian scam email?? I must get a dozen of these a day. Once in a while they get creative: they're from Zim, or South Africa. You'd think with the volume of the emails they're sending out that *everybody* with email must have gotten dozens of these offers by now.
Basically, the scam market is a commons. There's nobody to prevent them from using up the commons with their letters, and so they have.
-russ
You said: That is what the argument here is, and that is why many people who write kernel programs don't use graphical tools ANYWAY. Which I think breaks another assumption made by Mr. Raymond about a new config system.
You also said:
Since it is Eric Raymond who is working on CML2, I have to wonder why you keep harping on graphical tools unless you think CML2 is just a graphical kernel configuration system.
-russ
Consider home-schooling them. It's what you've been doing so far!
-russ
Like how do you know the configuation options used on the kernel you are running?
/proc/config, and it spits out all the CONFIG_* options that were defined when the kernel was compiled. I sent that patch to Linus years ago.
You just cat
-russ
The problem is that dependencies between drivers aren't tracked (at least not well) so it is easy to turn on an option and break your kernel. Solve THAT problem and you win a cookie;
Eric solved that problem with CML2, and all he got was flamed. I think there's a whole pile of people who should apologize to Eric, starting with Linus.
-russ
CML2 is not about a graphical config tool. It's about having a set of rules rather than steps for configuring the kernel. CML2 is designed to be scriptable. It's designed for higher-level analysis than CML1 can ever make. It lets you say (for example) "I have no ISA bus", and all the drivers for ISA hardware get turned off.
-russ
I asked Eric, and he says that the command-line changes were subtle, that the X and curses changes were more significant, but that nobody complained about them.
And were my cousin-in-law's Aunt Tillie to compile a kernel, 1) she would be able to, and 2) she would want it to work without any muss, fuss, and bother, because 3) she would rather spend her time writing applications than fussing with kernel compiles.
And perhaps Eric just didn't do a good enough sell job, because one of the purposes of CML2 was to obviate "make dep; make clean".
-russ
ESR's refusal to update the patches to handle changes Linus made to the core code.
Sorry, you don't have permission to rewrite history. Eric updated his patches, and updated and updated, all the while waiting for Linus to suck in CML2 *like Linus promised*. Finally, he got burned out, and started to publicly wonder WTF was going on. All this time he was being roundly, soundly, and viciously abused by various people on the LKML.
All of which goes to show that Linus's promises are worth nothing. But we all knew that, didn't we?
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You're grasping at straws. Patrick was going through a period in his life where he was acting like an asshole. Cheating on his wife, abusing drugs, treating his subordinates like shit. And then he got caught at something he very much should not have been doing by any metric. He was immediately fired, and lost his stock options.
No love lost between him and his former employer.
-russ
Oh, he did something wrong. But we must be clear: there was no rape, there was no child. The facts are consistent with Patrick's contention that it was all a fantasy, that all concerned knew it was a fantasy, and that he intended to have sex with an adult posing as a child. After all, the police officer *was* posing as a child.
-russ
Well, she *was* lying about her age. Why do you have such a hard time believing that he saw through her lie?
-russ
No, he didn't even do that. *He* crossed state lines. He flew to a conference in which the police officer lived. He arranged to meet her. They met on the boardwalk. He suggested they go to the beach. Boom, handcuffs, jail.
No child was ever involved.
-russ
"rape children"? As far as anyone knows, he never touched a child.
-russ
All union growth has been in the public sector for the last ten years. Therefore, for unions to avoid further shrinkage, they must necessarily encourage growth in the public sector.
-russ
I haven't figured out how to make the USB slave into a master yet, but it's probably possible.
Alas, no. The USB client is built into the CPU, and it can ONLY be a client. And yes, the serial port is still available, but cords are a Serious Pain in the Butt.
-russ
No GPS! What good is mobile Internet unless you know where you are??
-russ
Interesting. "dumbass", eh? I wonder how you would feel if you couldn't get in touch with your doctor and you needed him. You would die, I suppose, and good riddence.
-russ
Why should doctors have to pay the fine? And if doctors don't, what about EMTs? Firemen? Policemen? Sysadmins? Plumbers?
Laws create more laws.
-russ
Now you're starting to see the problem. The law will have to be modified to allow people who are on call to attend public performances. And then we'll need an identification card to identify such people. And then a fee to administer the cellphone permit system. And then other groups will say "But we need to have our cellphones all the time." And they'll have to have their permits as well.
Law doesn't engender freedom. Laws engender more laws.
Fishburne's solution was the best. However, he should have gone farther. He should have gone to the front of the stage, asked people to point out the offender, and asked her to leave. And then said to the audience in general "Is YOUR cellphone turned on?"
-russ
-russ
I agree with you, but I would point out that there is absolutely zero evidence that 1) cellphone use causes accidents, 2) that there aren't other activities of a similar nature which cause more accidents which should be outlawed first (like smoking in your car!), 3) that if there is indeed a problem, that it won't go away, and 4) that requiring headsets is any safer.
It's just a stupid, stupid law which reflects absolutely no thought on the part of legislators -- but did that surprise you?
-russ