Oh I don't disagree with the idea they will dump them too. Not sure I agree on the market being so microscopic though - it's big enough to support multiple high bandwidth businesses and all of that traffic has to be coming from somewhere! It will be VERY interesting to see what happens when all of that traffic starts getting pulled from outside of their network by users willing to pay for the access instead of local off of their own networks. Honestly I'd use it more if it weren't for not being able to find a (Windows) client that doesn't crash when asked to index all of the groups I find interesting
I think you've hit upon the problem - this Anon has apparently never met a Homosexual and thus has no experience to base his thoughts upon other than that which has been given to him by others. Sad really....
So why is this an issue? If they have only sampled 20% of the WEB and found kiddie p0rn on some small percentage of THAT then judging from what has just been done that's good enough! 88 newsgroups had SOME instance of kiddie p0rn out of 100K groups and that was good enough to kill it. Seems to me the analogy above would hold just fine even if only 20% of the 'net could be surveyed....
Honestly, these people simply do not understand what they are dealing with and are making decisions that reflect that. You can bet that whatever content they didn't like that was on those groups will now flood other groups, this decisions will do nothing....
The real fun will be when all of the "normal" user groups are taken over by the folks who no longer have access to the.ALT usergroups. I mean DUH everyone will just move in on other newsgroups and flood them! They are going to end up playing whack-a-mole removing group after group, this is stupid!
You might want to look into something that can play compressed RAR files, XBMC for instance is supposed to. I don't use it but apparently others do judging from posts on the forums... RAR is apparently a decent file system for things like this - something I didn't know till I researched it. Neat!
I happen to be running an older version of DD-WRT. I used to try and use QOS on it but could never see it doing too much for me and am pretty sure it's turned off. I also use Vonage - with my speed maxxed out on FIOS I have no dropouts on Vonage. When I used Comcast the same wasn't true - maxxing upload would kill Vonage and my download speed, max speed was also 1/3rd of what I am getting with fios. That said - I also never noticed them throttling my torrents (encrypted w/random port, I use uTorrent).
So, if I maxxed out on cable trouble ensued, if I throttled it back all was good. With fios I seem to be able to do any damned thing I want - it's sick! However I throttle to a fraction of my max throughput just because I see no sense in completely abusing the bandwidth I'm paying for. Even 25K up is pretty good for something running 24X7 IMO and I have it scheduled to bump up at night. Even on cable though I saw no added latency really, not with some throttling in place. I cannot explain it compared to this guy's results
Yeah maybe but my experience playing first person shooters that are latency sensitive doesn't reflect his experience. I can play UT3, UT2K4, Eve too - no issues. I see pings as low as 35ms in UT2K4, I set my upload as high as 100kbs - this is a 15/15 fios connection, downloads hit as high as 1.7mbs.
Why is it better? It's actually designed for the purpose for starters! Using cell towers is a kludge - I tried the Navizon software on a different phone and it was consistently WAY off! Now I'm told the iPhone is working better than that but still - room for error exists. There's no reason why the new iPhone couldn't use BOTH technologies is there?
I'm not worried about the military screwing with the signal either - I happen to live in the US. They cannot screw with specific devices either only on whole geo areas, the devices are receive only. I know that others are lofting SATs and that's fine too, I understand their concerns but don't share them.
All in all I expect the next phone will be an evolution of the first and have the one or two features I really want. Hopefully they will not get stupid and do anything about jailbreaking, THAT would piss me off!:(
I looked at the first phone and thought it was kewl and am already on at&t. Thought the googleMaps thing was awesome.... till I found out it had no GPS. WTF?! Yeah, it uses something like Navizon but why would I want to rely on cell tower triangulation and some sort of Wi-Fi database? Friends do tell me it works well but I want a damned GPS. 3G sounds nice too but I guess I'll know I need more bandwidth after using it? Told all my friends I wouldn't touch it till it had GPS - uh oh looks like I'm getting an iPhone soon!
Friends tell me it's actually useful for things other than phone calls. Wow. Since my existing phone does jack EXCEPT make calls poorly that might be nice. Can't use it at work but jailbreaking it for 3rd party apps in my spare time would be interesting, screw the crippled SDK stuff. I sometimes use the woman's phone to look up stuff on the WEB but it's WinCE based and frankly sucks. Since I'm already on the service how bad could it be? Probably cost me about the same, has data, even if it's only a little better it'll be worth it.
I use the newer 80+ rated PSUs and I don't oversize them like so many others do. My desktop machine AND a server that also has an 80+ PSU in it (and 10HDDs) together use just about 300Watts as measured by my Kill-a-Watt device. That's not an insignificant amount but that was also with all of my drives spun up - normally drives not in use goto sleep (unRAID).
The PSU ratings of those two machines together are probably somewhere right around a kilowatt and yet I use a fraction of that at full chat. My desktop has a 45nm C2D (E8400) clocked to 3.8Ghz, an 8800GTS (die shrunk too), a single HDD, multiple cooling fans.
My point is that just because a PSU is rated for something doesn't mean it's going to be using that even when you have fairly thirsty components onboard - using the rating is a bit misleading as it's a maximum output. The fact that I use highly efficient supplies helps a great deal, they don't cost much more. My power bill isn't insignificant mind you but these aren't the only two computers I run either:-)
Correct but only if you rely upon the DVD firmware to be part of your protection scheme as Microsoft apparently did with the 360. From the sounds of it this guy would prefer to somehow sign and or encrypt part of the install using keys stored in the TPM and not rely on a proprietary ODF.
That might be true, supposedly they have also been shipping EFI on all their new boards too. I will have to take a closer look at the newish Dell we have to see if there's any indication of this being onboard. With margins as thin as they are I wonder what this costs the OEMs to add and license...
This is an added cost piece of hardware right now. There's no real incentive to add it to motherboards which is why it's not everywhere now. Perhaps in the distant future that will be the case but it's not something I'm going to lose sleep over now. They are on laptops because those are targets of theft while being transported, what's the business case for putting them in desktops?
Yes, Thinkpads were one of the first machines I knew of that had them and mine does have a reader onboard (T60). I have now seen some Toshiba with them and my ASUS motherboard can have one added to a special slot. I'd be surprised if Dell and some other business class OEMs haven't also added them to at least some models.
Yeah, seems they didn't have the TPM measuring the firmware on the DVD drive. Whoops! They could have but that would have proven a bit more difficult to manage with multiple DVD drive vendors I guess. Bet they regret that...
I do, anyone with a Linux based HTPC that can display content from commercial DVDs does. This is NOT good if it's as clear cut as the summary made it sound.
Games are interactive, you cannot simply capture what's going to the screen and speakers one time and enjoy it forever. Games are unique compared to movies in that each time they are played back the series of events is different. At least that is what he seems to think. If you look at it from the standpoint that this thing would unlock aka decrypt some content in order to play then yeah it's perhaps not so different - we'd have to see more details on what is being proposed. In any case I do not see myself participating anytime soon...
+1 insightful! This guy must have just woken up, that he has seized upon this with such fervor makes me wonder how long Atari is going to be around. These things are FAR from common save for laptops and certainly not something you're likely to find on a gamer's desktop. My machine has a slot for a TPM module but it didn't ship with one and I see NO reason to shell out a pile of cash to obtain one. People such as myself will simply vote with our feet and wallets. Think he will blame piracy for the low sales?
Umm so like they just woke up from a coma and heard about Trusted Computing? ROTFL! Mind you Atari had jack to do with this technology.
Trusted Computing uses the TPM module, it's in many but FAR from all computers. It's in this laptop, it can be ADDED to my desktop's motherboard. It's designed to store measures of critical OS and hardware components like the BIOS to prevent tampering. Modify a file who's hash is stored in the TPM and is checked by a critical process and the system won't boot. There's a random number generator in there and yeah probably a private keypair too. So what I can only EVER play my game on this one machine now? It's locked to this machine? Games upgrade their stuff more than anyone else and he thinks this is the great panacea? You could do this today with your own code much the way Vista does, has that helped adoption? The TPM might be a more effective way to do it but it won't guarantee sales.
There are several games on the market and coming to market that I have not nor will I purchase simply because the DRM is too intrusive. Games that require me to be connected to the 'net for "verification" to play standalone or that can only be purchased and downloaded via DRM'd mechanisms aren't of interest to me. I and others have voted with our wallets.
Want to KILL the commercial game industry? Implement this! This guy sounds like your typical PHB who has stumbled upon something in a trade rag, seized upon the idea, and is trumpeting to anyone in management that will listen what a great idea he's found. In short he's a fool. He also sounds like he believes that everyone who's pirating games now will suddenly be forced to start buying them, wow is he and the music industry going to be in for a shock when they finally figure out this isn't the case!
Yup, good point on the rolling number thingy - ion my haste I didn't think that one all the way through. They do indeed need to phone home to work right and that's not going to work so well on a preboot process.
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I do not disagree with you - it's a mess and I've not seen anything that filters it effectively :-(
Oh I don't disagree with the idea they will dump them too. Not sure I agree on the market being so microscopic though - it's big enough to support multiple high bandwidth businesses and all of that traffic has to be coming from somewhere! It will be VERY interesting to see what happens when all of that traffic starts getting pulled from outside of their network by users willing to pay for the access instead of local off of their own networks. Honestly I'd use it more if it weren't for not being able to find a (Windows) client that doesn't crash when asked to index all of the groups I find interesting
I think you've hit upon the problem - this Anon has apparently never met a Homosexual and thus has no experience to base his thoughts upon other than that which has been given to him by others. Sad really....
So why is this an issue? If they have only sampled 20% of the WEB and found kiddie p0rn on some small percentage of THAT then judging from what has just been done that's good enough! 88 newsgroups had SOME instance of kiddie p0rn out of 100K groups and that was good enough to kill it. Seems to me the analogy above would hold just fine even if only 20% of the 'net could be surveyed....
Honestly, these people simply do not understand what they are dealing with and are making decisions that reflect that. You can bet that whatever content they didn't like that was on those groups will now flood other groups, this decisions will do nothing....
The real fun will be when all of the "normal" user groups are taken over by the folks who no longer have access to the .ALT usergroups. I mean DUH everyone will just move in on other newsgroups and flood them! They are going to end up playing whack-a-mole removing group after group, this is stupid!
Radio and Light *both* travel at *what* speed?
Cut down on the speed of light? Yeah, that's a terrific goal! .......
Want to learn about living in space and develop technologies for it - goto the Moon first! It's taken us this long to decide to go back?
You might want to look into something that can play compressed RAR files, XBMC for instance is supposed to. I don't use it but apparently others do judging from posts on the forums... RAR is apparently a decent file system for things like this - something I didn't know till I researched it. Neat!
I happen to be running an older version of DD-WRT. I used to try and use QOS on it but could never see it doing too much for me and am pretty sure it's turned off. I also use Vonage - with my speed maxxed out on FIOS I have no dropouts on Vonage. When I used Comcast the same wasn't true - maxxing upload would kill Vonage and my download speed, max speed was also 1/3rd of what I am getting with fios. That said - I also never noticed them throttling my torrents (encrypted w/random port, I use uTorrent).
So, if I maxxed out on cable trouble ensued, if I throttled it back all was good. With fios I seem to be able to do any damned thing I want - it's sick! However I throttle to a fraction of my max throughput just because I see no sense in completely abusing the bandwidth I'm paying for. Even 25K up is pretty good for something running 24X7 IMO and I have it scheduled to bump up at night. Even on cable though I saw no added latency really, not with some throttling in place. I cannot explain it compared to this guy's results
Yeah maybe but my experience playing first person shooters that are latency sensitive doesn't reflect his experience. I can play UT3, UT2K4, Eve too - no issues. I see pings as low as 35ms in UT2K4, I set my upload as high as 100kbs - this is a 15/15 fios connection, downloads hit as high as 1.7mbs.
Why is it better? It's actually designed for the purpose for starters! Using cell towers is a kludge - I tried the Navizon software on a different phone and it was consistently WAY off! Now I'm told the iPhone is working better than that but still - room for error exists. There's no reason why the new iPhone couldn't use BOTH technologies is there?
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I'm not worried about the military screwing with the signal either - I happen to live in the US. They cannot screw with specific devices either only on whole geo areas, the devices are receive only. I know that others are lofting SATs and that's fine too, I understand their concerns but don't share them.
All in all I expect the next phone will be an evolution of the first and have the one or two features I really want. Hopefully they will not get stupid and do anything about jailbreaking, THAT would piss me off!
I looked at the first phone and thought it was kewl and am already on at&t. Thought the googleMaps thing was awesome.... till I found out it had no GPS. WTF?! Yeah, it uses something like Navizon but why would I want to rely on cell tower triangulation and some sort of Wi-Fi database? Friends do tell me it works well but I want a damned GPS. 3G sounds nice too but I guess I'll know I need more bandwidth after using it? Told all my friends I wouldn't touch it till it had GPS - uh oh looks like I'm getting an iPhone soon!
Friends tell me it's actually useful for things other than phone calls. Wow. Since my existing phone does jack EXCEPT make calls poorly that might be nice. Can't use it at work but jailbreaking it for 3rd party apps in my spare time would be interesting, screw the crippled SDK stuff. I sometimes use the woman's phone to look up stuff on the WEB but it's WinCE based and frankly sucks. Since I'm already on the service how bad could it be? Probably cost me about the same, has data, even if it's only a little better it'll be worth it.
I use the newer 80+ rated PSUs and I don't oversize them like so many others do. My desktop machine AND a server that also has an 80+ PSU in it (and 10HDDs) together use just about 300Watts as measured by my Kill-a-Watt device. That's not an insignificant amount but that was also with all of my drives spun up - normally drives not in use goto sleep (unRAID).
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The PSU ratings of those two machines together are probably somewhere right around a kilowatt and yet I use a fraction of that at full chat. My desktop has a 45nm C2D (E8400) clocked to 3.8Ghz, an 8800GTS (die shrunk too), a single HDD, multiple cooling fans.
My point is that just because a PSU is rated for something doesn't mean it's going to be using that even when you have fairly thirsty components onboard - using the rating is a bit misleading as it's a maximum output. The fact that I use highly efficient supplies helps a great deal, they don't cost much more. My power bill isn't insignificant mind you but these aren't the only two computers I run either
Correct but only if you rely upon the DVD firmware to be part of your protection scheme as Microsoft apparently did with the 360. From the sounds of it this guy would prefer to somehow sign and or encrypt part of the install using keys stored in the TPM and not rely on a proprietary ODF.
That might be true, supposedly they have also been shipping EFI on all their new boards too. I will have to take a closer look at the newish Dell we have to see if there's any indication of this being onboard. With margins as thin as they are I wonder what this costs the OEMs to add and license...
This is an added cost piece of hardware right now. There's no real incentive to add it to motherboards which is why it's not everywhere now. Perhaps in the distant future that will be the case but it's not something I'm going to lose sleep over now. They are on laptops because those are targets of theft while being transported, what's the business case for putting them in desktops?
Yes, Thinkpads were one of the first machines I knew of that had them and mine does have a reader onboard (T60). I have now seen some Toshiba with them and my ASUS motherboard can have one added to a special slot. I'd be surprised if Dell and some other business class OEMs haven't also added them to at least some models.
Yeah, seems they didn't have the TPM measuring the firmware on the DVD drive. Whoops! They could have but that would have proven a bit more difficult to manage with multiple DVD drive vendors I guess. Bet they regret that...
I do, anyone with a Linux based HTPC that can display content from commercial DVDs does. This is NOT good if it's as clear cut as the summary made it sound.
Games are interactive, you cannot simply capture what's going to the screen and speakers one time and enjoy it forever. Games are unique compared to movies in that each time they are played back the series of events is different. At least that is what he seems to think. If you look at it from the standpoint that this thing would unlock aka decrypt some content in order to play then yeah it's perhaps not so different - we'd have to see more details on what is being proposed. In any case I do not see myself participating anytime soon...
+1 insightful! This guy must have just woken up, that he has seized upon this with such fervor makes me wonder how long Atari is going to be around. These things are FAR from common save for laptops and certainly not something you're likely to find on a gamer's desktop. My machine has a slot for a TPM module but it didn't ship with one and I see NO reason to shell out a pile of cash to obtain one. People such as myself will simply vote with our feet and wallets. Think he will blame piracy for the low sales?
In fact there's at least one console, the 360, that has one.
Umm so like they just woke up from a coma and heard about Trusted Computing? ROTFL! Mind you Atari had jack to do with this technology.
Trusted Computing uses the TPM module, it's in many but FAR from all computers. It's in this laptop, it can be ADDED to my desktop's motherboard. It's designed to store measures of critical OS and hardware components like the BIOS to prevent tampering. Modify a file who's hash is stored in the TPM and is checked by a critical process and the system won't boot. There's a random number generator in there and yeah probably a private keypair too. So what I can only EVER play my game on this one machine now? It's locked to this machine? Games upgrade their stuff more than anyone else and he thinks this is the great panacea? You could do this today with your own code much the way Vista does, has that helped adoption? The TPM might be a more effective way to do it but it won't guarantee sales.
There are several games on the market and coming to market that I have not nor will I purchase simply because the DRM is too intrusive. Games that require me to be connected to the 'net for "verification" to play standalone or that can only be purchased and downloaded via DRM'd mechanisms aren't of interest to me. I and others have voted with our wallets.
Want to KILL the commercial game industry? Implement this! This guy sounds like your typical PHB who has stumbled upon something in a trade rag, seized upon the idea, and is trumpeting to anyone in management that will listen what a great idea he's found. In short he's a fool. He also sounds like he believes that everyone who's pirating games now will suddenly be forced to start buying them, wow is he and the music industry going to be in for a shock when they finally figure out this isn't the case!
GL Atari, was nice knowing you.
Yup, good point on the rolling number thingy - ion my haste I didn't think that one all the way through. They do indeed need to phone home to work right and that's not going to work so well on a preboot process.