Yeah, possibly. Considering it is open, hackable and just generally an Android-based computer, I can see this being fixed PDQ.
I'm tempted to buy one but have too many other projects going already to fiddle with it now. For me, I'd need to see DLNA streaming or at least the ability to stream from local network sources.
As far as I can tell -- and this is speculation as I don't yet have one -- the tapping on the device is how you associate with it. You're "checking in", so to speak.
Then, as long as you're on the same network segment as the device, you have whatever privileges the owner set it up with. Actual control is by standard wander-to-the-bar-or-chair remote app.
Once you leave the local network, you disassociate. There is probably a timeout as well. "Party is over at 11:00. Cut off all guest access."
I can easily see "master" devices such as the owner's phone being set up to not have to do this.
Done right, I can see the local network settings -- SSID, WPA-2 passphrase, etc. -- being transferred by the tap. The guest's phone now joins your network and control of the Q is done via IP thru the net. It also gives them access to THEIR Play account as a source.
There are a whole raft of possibilities with this.
This is just speculation on my part, but I think they aren't defining "success" the way you are. You're implying "sell a lot of Nexus Qs" == success. I don't see Google doing that.
I think they're trying to build a stable of NFC showcase gadgets. Large sales numbers are not even on their radar with this. By making it open and hackable, they're seeing what the community comes up with.
They're pushing the "big picture" of "this is what NFC can do". Q is one. Google Wallet is another.
It'll be interesting to see what the community comes up with.
In order for it to work properly you not only need an Android phone, but one that is NFC-capable. That basically means a newer Nexus phone.
The demographic that has that *IS* well known for spending money on premium items.
I don't think Google sees this in the same market as Roku. I think they're thinking more along the lines of the original Apple TV. "Let's see what we can do and where we want to go in this space." They're experimenting on the cutting edge right now.
Not in this case. Google is also trying to showcase near-field communications (NFC). They are targeting a very specific market and trying to push things forward in a specific direction. If you want a remote, you're not part of the target demographic.
It doesn't even come with a remote, you have to supply one yourself!
This is a feature, not a bug. I have too damn many remotes as is. I've taken to using my Android phone as a remote for my XBMC boxes and a couple of TVs.
The only feature I see missing on this is playing local networked media. DLNA compatibility would do it.
Wow, that is so wrong. There is no need for a TIC so the swabbies can stream Netflix, play Warcraft and Skype home to the wife and kiddies.
It looks like the local regime filters the Internet, so using local ISPs probably is straight out as too much shit gets blocked. All they're trying to do is bypass that.
It seems the basis of the argument is that Wickard was regulating a activity -- the growing of the wheat, whereas in this case they ruled based on the LACK of activity.
That is, Congress can tell you to STOP doing something but not to START doing something.
I still disagree with Wickard in theory, but this case won't be a wedge in the door.
Justice Roberts had this little gem hidden in his commentary.
"The individual mandate cannot be upheld as an exercise of Congress's power under the Commerce Clause.That Clause authorizes Congress to regulate interstate commerce, not to order individuals to engage in it.
But in the odious 1942 Wickard V Filburn case the Court ruled exactly the opposite. The Court decided that Filburn's wheat growing activities reduced the amount of wheat he would buy for chicken feed on the open market, and because wheat was traded nationally, Filburn's production of more wheat than he was allotted was affecting interstate commerce. Thus, Filburn's production could be regulated by the federal government.
In essence, they ruled that he can't grow wheat for his own use he MUST BUY IT IN THE MARKET.
I wonder if this ruling can be used as precedent to challenge Wickard v Filburn?
It isn't a single-source, it is multiple sources in a single geographic area.
These technologies are licensed, but manufacturing facilities are incredibly expensive to set up. Consequently, they are in areas where the shipping costs of individual components is cheapest at an aggregate.
A manufacturing facility for something like an iPad in the U.S. would still be shipping all the parts from SE Asia because the vast bulk of the supply chain just doesn't exist here anymore.
For those with more detail-oriented interests, I suggest picking up a couple of his books on the issue of Privacy. A partial list can be found at his website.
The secret wasn't that they were testing a tablet idea and interface, it was that they were going to build the thing themselves.
The common assumption would be the MS was going to do things like they have for the last 3+ decades. That is, they'll make the software and the OEMs will make the hardware.
For fantasy: The Chronicles of Narnia (the books, not the movies) A Wrinkle in Time The Chronicles of Amber by Roger Zelazny Changeling and Madwand by Roger Zelazny
For sci-fi, try Alan Dean Foster's "Flinx" series and Heinlein's Juveniles
Hmmm. Pakistan and North Korea worry me more on that front than Iran does. Iran is a theocracy, but they don't come anywhere near the level of batshit crazy that is found in the Pakistani and Afghani tribals.
Always remember, they're Persians and not Arabs, like all their neighbors. That difference will never be forgotten and tempers their actions.
...ntil Iran finally trotted out a bomb and wiped out an entire city full of people?
What on Earth gives you the idea they will do anything like that?
If Iran were to nuke a city, say Tel Aviv or New York, they would be annihilated. The response from the United States would make the Allied bombing of Dresden in WW2 look like a Sunday picnic. Iran knows this.
Iran has no hope of attaining Mutual Assured Destruction parity with the U.S. Their only hope of having a bomb is "if you invade us, we'll make you pay the price". It isn't an offensive threat to the U.S.
Meh. Laptops combined with docking stations, external monitors, keyboards and mice replaced the PC. Actually, they BECAME the PC.
I can envision the same fate for the tablets. A nice docking station with a real keyboard, monitor and mouse but pop it out to take it with you.
My main beef isn't with this tablet, it is with Microsoft's push of the Metro interface everywhere. Not everything is a touch interface and it shouldn't be forced into that paradigm.
When all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail. Microsoft seems to be making the mistake that tablets are going to fully replace PCs. They aren't. They, like phones, are going to compliment them. Each is a different tool with different strengths and weaknesses.
There is a reason people don't use iPads and the like for serious spreadsheet and keyboard-based work. They aren't designed for it. Slapping a keyboard in the cover isn't going to change the fact. You can already get keyboards for the iPad and Android tablets.
Yes, they work in limited scenarios, but that doesn't mean people are going to give up full tactile respone and 27" monitors when doing long typing sessions. You think people have issues with carpal tunnel syndrome NOW, wait until they're doing all their typing on one of those things!
Most typical office tasks involving the classic Office suite of products aren't going to change. Those tasks still need to be done, and spreadsheets, word processors and heavy data entry aren't going to disappear anytime soon.
It is the software that drives the hardware. Microsoft knows it. Ballmer's famous "developers, developers, developers" chant is proof of it. Apple knows it, too. This is why they continuously tout the number of apps available for the iPad. And it is why, despite my dislike of Apple's walled-garden approach, I'm getting an iPad. There are apps there to support private pilots that just don't exist on Android (or Windows 8). LOTS more.
Microsoft will sell a bunch of these, simply because they'll most likely dump a wad of cash into promoting them. But, unless they come up with more compelling reasoning that "you don't have to give up Office" for these, I can't see them passing Android or Apple on the sales charts.
The problem is AI is about machine learning. We design them to learn on their own. That is the point. To get them to figure out better, more efficient ways of completing tasks.
The paths taken to complete those tasks make go in directions we didn't anticipate. And the complexity of the systems get to such a point where we don't know what they know or which bits are critical to the task performance.
All physical things decay. I just replaced a CPU fan in a laptop last week and am in the middle of salvaging a dying hard drive. Death is a real danger for everything.
As for "let them build", it we're talking software only, we won't necessarily be involved. I'm not talking industrial robots here.
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Yeah, possibly. Considering it is open, hackable and just generally an Android-based computer, I can see this being fixed PDQ.
I'm tempted to buy one but have too many other projects going already to fiddle with it now. For me, I'd need to see DLNA streaming or at least the ability to stream from local network sources.
Uh, no.
As far as I can tell -- and this is speculation as I don't yet have one -- the tapping on the device is how you associate with it. You're "checking in", so to speak.
Then, as long as you're on the same network segment as the device, you have whatever privileges the owner set it up with. Actual control is by standard wander-to-the-bar-or-chair remote app.
Once you leave the local network, you disassociate. There is probably a timeout as well. "Party is over at 11:00. Cut off all guest access."
I can easily see "master" devices such as the owner's phone being set up to not have to do this.
Done right, I can see the local network settings -- SSID, WPA-2 passphrase, etc. -- being transferred by the tap. The guest's phone now joins your network and control of the Q is done via IP thru the net. It also gives them access to THEIR Play account as a source.
There are a whole raft of possibilities with this.
This is just speculation on my part, but I think they aren't defining "success" the way you are. You're implying "sell a lot of Nexus Qs" == success. I don't see Google doing that.
I think they're trying to build a stable of NFC showcase gadgets. Large sales numbers are not even on their radar with this. By making it open and hackable, they're seeing what the community comes up with.
They're pushing the "big picture" of "this is what NFC can do". Q is one. Google Wallet is another.
It'll be interesting to see what the community comes up with.
In order for it to work properly you not only need an Android phone, but one that is NFC-capable. That basically means a newer Nexus phone.
The demographic that has that *IS* well known for spending money on premium items.
I don't think Google sees this in the same market as Roku. I think they're thinking more along the lines of the original Apple TV. "Let's see what we can do and where we want to go in this space." They're experimenting on the cutting edge right now.
Not in this case. Google is also trying to showcase near-field communications (NFC). They are targeting a very specific market and trying to push things forward in a specific direction. If you want a remote, you're not part of the target demographic.
It doesn't even come with a remote, you have to supply one yourself!
This is a feature, not a bug. I have too damn many remotes as is. I've taken to using my Android phone as a remote for my XBMC boxes and a couple of TVs.
The only feature I see missing on this is playing local networked media. DLNA compatibility would do it.
But they would bury it in chocolate. Delicious, smooth, yummy chocolate.
...regardless of classification of data...
Wow, that is so wrong. There is no need for a TIC so the swabbies can stream Netflix, play Warcraft and Skype home to the wife and kiddies.
It looks like the local regime filters the Internet, so using local ISPs probably is straight out as too much shit gets blocked. All they're trying to do is bypass that.
Thanks, I hadn't waded thru it all yet.
It seems the basis of the argument is that Wickard was regulating a activity -- the growing of the wheat, whereas in this case they ruled based on the LACK of activity.
That is, Congress can tell you to STOP doing something but not to START doing something.
I still disagree with Wickard in theory, but this case won't be a wedge in the door.
Justice Roberts had this little gem hidden in his commentary.
"The individual mandate cannot be upheld as an exercise of Congress's power under the Commerce Clause.That Clause authorizes Congress to regulate interstate commerce, not to order individuals to engage in it.
But in the odious 1942 Wickard V Filburn case the Court ruled exactly the opposite. The Court decided that Filburn's wheat growing activities reduced the amount of wheat he would buy for chicken feed on the open market, and because wheat was traded nationally, Filburn's production of more wheat than he was allotted was affecting interstate commerce. Thus, Filburn's production could be regulated by the federal government.
In essence, they ruled that he can't grow wheat for his own use he MUST BUY IT IN THE MARKET.
I wonder if this ruling can be used as precedent to challenge Wickard v Filburn?
Stop smoking weed. It is obviously impairing your reading comprehension.
The last sentence in the opening paragraph of that Wikipedia article says:
This act was overturned in 1969 in Leary v. United States, and was repealed by Congress the next year.
Did you bother to click that link?
For the rest of the community, don't. It is just a 2 minute ad for some pirate TV site.
Market it to all the people bitching about how we now buy everything from China and have no manufacturing jobs left in the U.S.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/27/google-q-is-designed-and-manufactured-in-the-u-s-a/
Only because they may endanger other people and property when they land. That isn't likely on Mars.
Ah, plausible deniability. It makes me tear up every time I see or hear it mentioned in relation to computer malware and potentially criminal acts.
It isn't a single-source, it is multiple sources in a single geographic area.
These technologies are licensed, but manufacturing facilities are incredibly expensive to set up. Consequently, they are in areas where the shipping costs of individual components is cheapest at an aggregate.
A manufacturing facility for something like an iPad in the U.S. would still be shipping all the parts from SE Asia because the vast bulk of the supply chain just doesn't exist here anymore.
For those who argue that they have nothing to hide, I suggest they read Daniel J. Solove's "I've Got Nothing to Hide and Other Misunderstandings of Privacy" for a succinct explanation of the issues.
For those with more detail-oriented interests, I suggest picking up a couple of his books on the issue of Privacy. A partial list can be found at his website.
The secret wasn't that they were testing a tablet idea and interface, it was that they were going to build the thing themselves.
The common assumption would be the MS was going to do things like they have for the last 3+ decades. That is, they'll make the software and the OEMs will make the hardware.
For fantasy:
The Chronicles of Narnia (the books, not the movies)
A Wrinkle in Time
The Chronicles of Amber by Roger Zelazny
Changeling and Madwand by Roger Zelazny
For sci-fi, try Alan Dean Foster's "Flinx" series and Heinlein's Juveniles
Maybe, but not as soon as you think. Desktop PCs have massive amounts of computing power and their larger space allows for warmer, larger components.
Yes, phones and tablets will evolve, but desktop systems aren't standing still. It is going to take longer than you suspect for this to happen.
Hmmm. Pakistan and North Korea worry me more on that front than Iran does. Iran is a theocracy, but they don't come anywhere near the level of batshit crazy that is found in the Pakistani and Afghani tribals.
Always remember, they're Persians and not Arabs, like all their neighbors. That difference will never be forgotten and tempers their actions.
...ntil Iran finally trotted out a bomb and wiped out an entire city full of people?
What on Earth gives you the idea they will do anything like that?
If Iran were to nuke a city, say Tel Aviv or New York, they would be annihilated. The response from the United States would make the Allied bombing of Dresden in WW2 look like a Sunday picnic. Iran knows this.
Iran has no hope of attaining Mutual Assured Destruction parity with the U.S. Their only hope of having a bomb is "if you invade us, we'll make you pay the price". It isn't an offensive threat to the U.S.
Meh. Laptops combined with docking stations, external monitors, keyboards and mice replaced the PC. Actually, they BECAME the PC.
I can envision the same fate for the tablets. A nice docking station with a real keyboard, monitor and mouse but pop it out to take it with you.
My main beef isn't with this tablet, it is with Microsoft's push of the Metro interface everywhere. Not everything is a touch interface and it shouldn't be forced into that paradigm.
When all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail. Microsoft seems to be making the mistake that tablets are going to fully replace PCs. They aren't. They, like phones, are going to compliment them. Each is a different tool with different strengths and weaknesses.
There is a reason people don't use iPads and the like for serious spreadsheet and keyboard-based work. They aren't designed for it. Slapping a keyboard in the cover isn't going to change the fact. You can already get keyboards for the iPad and Android tablets.
Yes, they work in limited scenarios, but that doesn't mean people are going to give up full tactile respone and 27" monitors when doing long typing sessions. You think people have issues with carpal tunnel syndrome NOW, wait until they're doing all their typing on one of those things!
Most typical office tasks involving the classic Office suite of products aren't going to change. Those tasks still need to be done, and spreadsheets, word processors and heavy data entry aren't going to disappear anytime soon.
It is the software that drives the hardware. Microsoft knows it. Ballmer's famous "developers, developers, developers" chant is proof of it. Apple knows it, too. This is why they continuously tout the number of apps available for the iPad. And it is why, despite my dislike of Apple's walled-garden approach, I'm getting an iPad. There are apps there to support private pilots that just don't exist on Android (or Windows 8). LOTS more.
Microsoft will sell a bunch of these, simply because they'll most likely dump a wad of cash into promoting them. But, unless they come up with more compelling reasoning that "you don't have to give up Office" for these, I can't see them passing Android or Apple on the sales charts.
The problem is AI is about machine learning. We design them to learn on their own. That is the point. To get them to figure out better, more efficient ways of completing tasks.
The paths taken to complete those tasks make go in directions we didn't anticipate. And the complexity of the systems get to such a point where we don't know what they know or which bits are critical to the task performance.
All physical things decay. I just replaced a CPU fan in a laptop last week and am in the middle of salvaging a dying hard drive. Death is a real danger for everything.
As for "let them build", it we're talking software only, we won't necessarily be involved. I'm not talking industrial robots here.