With modern IPMI you can do more than that too, such as booting to an ISO image from all the way across the internet. You can even do full GUI and everything with a simple VNC client. Just so long as the machine powers on and has an internet connection configured, it'll work.
Intel's AMT boards do all of this anyways, and they're quite common these days.
I bought a Lenovo TS440 on Amazon for $400. Included a SAS controller, E3-1245 CPU, hot-swapable PSU, motherboard, and hot swap HDD bays in the case...They show up now and then, check slickdeals.
Oh no there are no datastores on it. I did try that route, using a software iSCSI scheme, and it doesn't work terribly well because it can't recover on its own if you reboot it.
Instead the VM itself just boostraps off of the datastore that hosts the ESXi install. It would be no loss if it were to fail, as unlike most people who build these things, I have a complete build doc ready to go so that I can have a fresh instance of it back up and running in 30 minutes. Since the bulk of the data is stored on the ZFS volume, it's not a problem.
Yeah it sounds like GP is suggesting to basically stall software development in favor of advancing the community. I don't see why that would be an effective strategy.
Basically that's analogous to saying your company should focus less on the quality and completion of its product and more on making sure that they have more employees just for the sake of making sure that they have more employees, even if those employees are not doing anything productive.
- Have a server with an ssd and 4 disks - Install VMware ESXi bare metal - Create a filer VM that you install ubuntu with zfs on to, and use VT-d to pass the disks directly to that VM - Have that VM share the ZFS volume as an NFS share that is only open to one IP - Create another VM that mounts that NFS share and subsequently offers these services to the rest of the network: Samba, Plex, Couchpotato, Sickrage, Rutorrent/rtorrent
At least, this is what my server looks like anyways. Total of 9TB (after parity) disk space with a symmetric gig connection.
Actually there was a problem with zfs and systemd on ubuntu; namely you couldn't have the ZFS stack automatically start and mount the filesystem at bootup; it just wasn't possible until only very recently.
I've been using ZFS on Linux for about 3.5 years now, it's been pretty stable. I can't say I've heard of a case of it failing for somebody other than user error.
Uhh...what iOS permissions model? If you install an app on iOS, you give it access to everything, including the kitchen sink. Apple mandates that the app ask for certain things, like location, but the app doesn't actually have to comply with what you ask.
I don't know if you've kept up with the latest and greatest when it comes to maintaining a car, but car manufacturers are VERY CONTROLLING when it comes to being able to read sensor data. The reason they do this is because they can keep third party mechanics out unless they pay $$$$$ to become a licensed technician or otherwise obtain the diagnostic information needed to effectively work on today's cars. Car repair is big bucks for the manufacturer if they keep that information proprietary.
If Porsche handed that stuff over to Google, it would make it a HELL of a lot easier for end users to be able to troubleshoot their car and fix it on their own, and THAT could seriously hurt Porsch's aftermarket revenue, hence I could see why they wouldn't want it. I'm guessing that Google might want this information mainly to allow app developers to be able to better use their imagination, but still, I doubt Porsche would give it up anyways.
That is an absolutely ridiculous argument. You don't actually eat the cow shit you grow vegetables in. Most normal human beings wash their food first, if only to remove the chemical coating much non-organic food arrives with.
You're very wrong here. If the food has been tainted with e. coli, then short of scrubbing it with antibiotics or cooking it, simply rinsing it off won't work. There have also been numerous cases of restaurants using proper sanitary methods that still have organic food they serve cause sickness anyways.
Meanwhile you choose to pick on the one method that is not known to cause ANY harm, and you do so just because you're religiously opposed to it, forgoing scientific rationale entirely.
Because you have absolutely no scientific basis whatsoever behind your arguments against GMO. You may as well say that every product that isn't actually Kosher or Halal must have a "Not Kosher" or "Not Halal" label prominently displayed on it. It's immaterial information, so there's no point in mandating a label.
Believe me, I can't stand SJWs, but there comes a point when the whole community just has an asshole elitist behavior, when they aren't elite at anything other than being nominees for biggest douche in the universe award.
I think that's the main reason I can't watch that show, and to this date haven't watched a full episode yet. Every time I hear the laugh track I want to gag. What is this, 1965? If they're going to do it that way, at least have a live studio audience like Married with Children had that actually responds appropriately to what's happening when it's genuinely funny.
In Big Bang Theory just feels like somebody is methodically trying to tell you "ok, you laugh here, even if it's not funny" throughout the whole show.
Android java code has to be translated to machine code before it can execute.
The method you described is what Dalvik used to be. With ART, that translation is done only one time, which is when you install the app. After that it's as native as something like compiled c#.
Well, again, I just want labels so "I" can make my own decisions. I can't see that it would be the end of the world just to label them.
If that's all you're after, then it's simple: Food manufacturers who go out of their way to make GMO-Free products label them as such just to make an extra sale. So just follow those labels. Meanwhile, the GMO food doesn't have to be stigmatized by your religion.
There, problem solved, no legislation required.
If I was not a GMO product..then, I'd not be worried about glyphosate levels in my food.
I thought we went over this earlier: If you have an issue with glyphosate, then make your issue with glyphosate, not GMO. While I'm here, I'll take this opportunity to point you to one of your fellow religious zealots who points out that glyphosate is sometimes found in organic food:
then maybe just label the ones where they splice in genes from such disparate species as a jellyfish into corn.
Except no such food exists. Nobody has ever spliced genes from an animal into a plant and then sold it in a grocery store. When you hear about that kind of thing happening, it's for research purposes to understand what the gene does.
So any such "law" wouldn't serve any useful purpose.
I have my doubts on the long term safety of this, as that we don't fully know what problems it may also cause further up and down the dna chain, and other proteins being coded.
This technology just hasn't been tested long enough to know it is safe...we've been guinea pigs for these years, and it often takes a LONG time to see really bad things happen, or have things slowly build up in the environment and in peoples' bodies.
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, exhibit A: A classic example of FUD.
Much of the problem GMO things I've been discussing have to do with the same companies that brought us Agent Orange, and DDT...which were perfectly safe*.......till decades later when we found out they weren't safe at all.
So now you're equating the technology with one company. This is like saying that Microsoft has done evil things in the past, so we should ban all personal computers. A completely idiotic thing to say, but it is your opinion nonetheless.
All I"m asking for is a label so I can make my own decisions on what I'm buying at the store and putting into my body. That should be a basic piece of information for anyone....
I can't see your objections to just adding a simple label? I'll pay the extra $0.01 it may take to change the labelling.
Why is it so bad to just let folks know? No one is advocating for anyone to hold a gun to the consumer's head to force them to buy or not buy the foodstuffs.
This is like saying "All I'm asking for is a label on all Jews so that I can make my own decision on whether to associate with them." It creates needless stigma even though it doesn't impact you one way or another, except for maybe bothering your religious viewpoint. I mean why is it bad to just let folks know?
And, at the very least...if there is a consumer push towards more non-GMO's, it might push the industry to have more food diversity, which cannot possibly be a bad thing. Right now, the monoculture of many of our foods, could potentially be a problem. What if a new bug or bacteria comes and wipes out all of one strain of wheat/corn/tomato/ and it is all gone because we don't have other strains of the foods that might be resistant....
Monoculture is a problem, however it's not unique to GMO. We've been doing this for millennia. Look at the papaya problem in Hawaii; they were all dying out because of a single virus. You know what solved it though? Genetic modification to insert a gene that would make them resistant. The very technology you are hating on solved a HUGE agricultural problem in Hawaii.
Actually if you ever go to a Chipotle, you can watch them prepare the ingredients, which is a deliberate restaurant design choice they use for that reason. And yes, you can watch them wash the lettuce (it's been this way for years.)
Your talking points are what we call denial. You sound just like Greeenpeace. Here, read this article:
Sorry, but if banning GMO foods is the only way to rein-in Monsanto, I'll accept that price.
That's like saying that if banning computers is the only way to reign in Microsoft, you'll accept that price. It's an asshole ideology.
And banning GMO labeling is just authoritarian bullshit. Now requiring GMO labeling might be unreasonable.
Umm...you completely misunderstand. You're welcome to stick a GMO label on food if you want; the ban is against laws that require labeling (i.e. governments telling other governments what to do.) The laws that require labeling are authoritarian.
One can get food poisoning from ANY restaurant that does not follow basic food safety and preparation standards (like washing produce, etc).
Try again. Reading the article this time:
At least 17 Chipotle restaurants in Minnesota have been linked to a Salmonella outbreak that sickened at least 45 people and sent five to the hospital.
So you're telling me that SEVENTEEN restaurants didn't follow basic food safety? This is your ideology speaking again: If the food is tainted badly enough, then short of scrubbing each leaf with antibiotics, you aren't going to remove the parasites.
Well the nice thing about biology is that we can get to a good cause-and-effect description of why something might cause harm to you.
In the case of organic, it's simple: Cow shit is well known to have many parasites, salmonella and e. coli among them. Both are known to cause people to get sick, and in some cases kill people, because both excrete chemicals into your intestines that are highly toxic, which your intestines try to flush out, giving you bad diarrhea.
As for GMO...let's see, we have a few studies suggesting a very shaky "link" to cancer in rats, immune problems, and digestive problems. Yet every single one of these studies has proven to be A) borderline fraudulent B) scientific misconduct, or C) both. And furthermore, there is no cause and effect description in a single one of these studies.
I'll tell you what: If glyphosate shows up in any material quantity (one or even a hundred parts per million isn't significant at all) then we can put it on the food labels.
glyphosates are now being shown to definitely be harmful
It's only been shown harmful to people coming into direct contact with huge quantities of it. Though I think coming into direct contact with cow shit used for organic farming is probably more hazardous to your health, yet people like you don't go around espousing the dangers of organic food.
Furthermore, glyphosate isn't the only application of GMO food. If you want to attack glyphosate, then make your issues with glyphosate instead of genetic modification.
But you won't, because that would actually make sense. You're in this for an ideology, which doesn't necessarily have to make any sense at all, just so long as it fits your personal world view.
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With modern IPMI you can do more than that too, such as booting to an ISO image from all the way across the internet. You can even do full GUI and everything with a simple VNC client. Just so long as the machine powers on and has an internet connection configured, it'll work.
Intel's AMT boards do all of this anyways, and they're quite common these days.
And IPMI console typically requires java. Within a year or so NO browser will support that!
No, actually the typical IPMI console is AMT these days, and you can connect to it with an ordinary VNC client, which isn't going away any time soon.
I bought a Lenovo TS440 on Amazon for $400. Included a SAS controller, E3-1245 CPU, hot-swapable PSU, motherboard, and hot swap HDD bays in the case...They show up now and then, check slickdeals.
Oh no there are no datastores on it. I did try that route, using a software iSCSI scheme, and it doesn't work terribly well because it can't recover on its own if you reboot it.
Instead the VM itself just boostraps off of the datastore that hosts the ESXi install. It would be no loss if it were to fail, as unlike most people who build these things, I have a complete build doc ready to go so that I can have a fresh instance of it back up and running in 30 minutes. Since the bulk of the data is stored on the ZFS volume, it's not a problem.
Pretty impressive system you got there?? Care to share the Cost to feed that setup on daily basis??
Hmm...25 cents I think? It's a Lenovo TS440 that I bought on Amazon.
Yeah it sounds like GP is suggesting to basically stall software development in favor of advancing the community. I don't see why that would be an effective strategy.
Basically that's analogous to saying your company should focus less on the quality and completion of its product and more on making sure that they have more employees just for the sake of making sure that they have more employees, even if those employees are not doing anything productive.
How's this for an appliance:
- Have a server with an ssd and 4 disks
- Install VMware ESXi bare metal
- Create a filer VM that you install ubuntu with zfs on to, and use VT-d to pass the disks directly to that VM
- Have that VM share the ZFS volume as an NFS share that is only open to one IP
- Create another VM that mounts that NFS share and subsequently offers these services to the rest of the network: Samba, Plex, Couchpotato, Sickrage, Rutorrent/rtorrent
At least, this is what my server looks like anyways. Total of 9TB (after parity) disk space with a symmetric gig connection.
Who needs netflix or cable anymore? :D
Actually there was a problem with zfs and systemd on ubuntu; namely you couldn't have the ZFS stack automatically start and mount the filesystem at bootup; it just wasn't possible until only very recently.
What do you mean it scales as you add more disks? You can't add disks to a ZFS array. You can replace them with bigger disks, but not just add them.
I've been using ZFS on Linux for about 3.5 years now, it's been pretty stable. I can't say I've heard of a case of it failing for somebody other than user error.
What kind of server doesn't have IPMI?
Uhh...what iOS permissions model? If you install an app on iOS, you give it access to everything, including the kitchen sink. Apple mandates that the app ask for certain things, like location, but the app doesn't actually have to comply with what you ask.
I don't know if you've kept up with the latest and greatest when it comes to maintaining a car, but car manufacturers are VERY CONTROLLING when it comes to being able to read sensor data. The reason they do this is because they can keep third party mechanics out unless they pay $$$$$ to become a licensed technician or otherwise obtain the diagnostic information needed to effectively work on today's cars. Car repair is big bucks for the manufacturer if they keep that information proprietary.
If Porsche handed that stuff over to Google, it would make it a HELL of a lot easier for end users to be able to troubleshoot their car and fix it on their own, and THAT could seriously hurt Porsch's aftermarket revenue, hence I could see why they wouldn't want it. I'm guessing that Google might want this information mainly to allow app developers to be able to better use their imagination, but still, I doubt Porsche would give it up anyways.
That is an absolutely ridiculous argument. You don't actually eat the cow shit you grow vegetables in. Most normal human beings wash their food first, if only to remove the chemical coating much non-organic food arrives with.
You're very wrong here. If the food has been tainted with e. coli, then short of scrubbing it with antibiotics or cooking it, simply rinsing it off won't work. There have also been numerous cases of restaurants using proper sanitary methods that still have organic food they serve cause sickness anyways.
No, what I'm showing you is that we have agricultural methods that are known to cause harm:
http://www.realclearscience.co...
Meanwhile you choose to pick on the one method that is not known to cause ANY harm, and you do so just because you're religiously opposed to it, forgoing scientific rationale entirely.
Because you have absolutely no scientific basis whatsoever behind your arguments against GMO. You may as well say that every product that isn't actually Kosher or Halal must have a "Not Kosher" or "Not Halal" label prominently displayed on it. It's immaterial information, so there's no point in mandating a label.
Believe me, I can't stand SJWs, but there comes a point when the whole community just has an asshole elitist behavior, when they aren't elite at anything other than being nominees for biggest douche in the universe award.
I think that's the main reason I can't watch that show, and to this date haven't watched a full episode yet. Every time I hear the laugh track I want to gag. What is this, 1965? If they're going to do it that way, at least have a live studio audience like Married with Children had that actually responds appropriately to what's happening when it's genuinely funny.
In Big Bang Theory just feels like somebody is methodically trying to tell you "ok, you laugh here, even if it's not funny" throughout the whole show.
Android java code has to be translated to machine code before it can execute.
The method you described is what Dalvik used to be. With ART, that translation is done only one time, which is when you install the app. After that it's as native as something like compiled c#.
Well, again, I just want labels so "I" can make my own decisions. I can't see that it would be the end of the world just to label them.
If that's all you're after, then it's simple: Food manufacturers who go out of their way to make GMO-Free products label them as such just to make an extra sale. So just follow those labels. Meanwhile, the GMO food doesn't have to be stigmatized by your religion.
There, problem solved, no legislation required.
If I was not a GMO product..then, I'd not be worried about glyphosate levels in my food.
I thought we went over this earlier: If you have an issue with glyphosate, then make your issue with glyphosate, not GMO. While I'm here, I'll take this opportunity to point you to one of your fellow religious zealots who points out that glyphosate is sometimes found in organic food:
http://healthimpactnews.com/20...
then maybe just label the ones where they splice in genes from such disparate species as a jellyfish into corn.
Except no such food exists. Nobody has ever spliced genes from an animal into a plant and then sold it in a grocery store. When you hear about that kind of thing happening, it's for research purposes to understand what the gene does.
So any such "law" wouldn't serve any useful purpose.
I have my doubts on the long term safety of this, as that we don't fully know what problems it may also cause further up and down the dna chain, and other proteins being coded.
This technology just hasn't been tested long enough to know it is safe...we've been guinea pigs for these years, and it often takes a LONG time to see really bad things happen, or have things slowly build up in the environment and in peoples' bodies.
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, exhibit A: A classic example of FUD.
Much of the problem GMO things I've been discussing have to do with the same companies that brought us Agent Orange, and DDT...which were perfectly safe*.......till decades later when we found out they weren't safe at all.
So now you're equating the technology with one company. This is like saying that Microsoft has done evil things in the past, so we should ban all personal computers. A completely idiotic thing to say, but it is your opinion nonetheless.
All I"m asking for is a label so I can make my own decisions on what I'm buying at the store and putting into my body. That should be a basic piece of information for anyone....
I can't see your objections to just adding a simple label? I'll pay the extra $0.01 it may take to change the labelling.
Why is it so bad to just let folks know? No one is advocating for anyone to hold a gun to the consumer's head to force them to buy or not buy the foodstuffs.
This is like saying "All I'm asking for is a label on all Jews so that I can make my own decision on whether to associate with them." It creates needless stigma even though it doesn't impact you one way or another, except for maybe bothering your religious viewpoint. I mean why is it bad to just let folks know?
And, at the very least...if there is a consumer push towards more non-GMO's, it might push the industry to have more food diversity, which cannot possibly be a bad thing. Right now, the monoculture of many of our foods, could potentially be a problem. What if a new bug or bacteria comes and wipes out all of one strain of wheat/corn/tomato/ and it is all gone because we don't have other strains of the foods that might be resistant....
Monoculture is a problem, however it's not unique to GMO. We've been doing this for millennia. Look at the papaya problem in Hawaii; they were all dying out because of a single virus. You know what solved it though? Genetic modification to insert a gene that would make them resistant. The very technology you are hating on solved a HUGE agricultural problem in Hawaii.
Actually if you ever go to a Chipotle, you can watch them prepare the ingredients, which is a deliberate restaurant design choice they use for that reason. And yes, you can watch them wash the lettuce (it's been this way for years.)
Your talking points are what we call denial. You sound just like Greeenpeace. Here, read this article:
http://www.slate.com/articles/...
Namely, read the arguments Greenpeace makes about Bt plants. Tell me how your arguments are different from theirs.
Sorry, but if banning GMO foods is the only way to rein-in Monsanto, I'll accept that price.
That's like saying that if banning computers is the only way to reign in Microsoft, you'll accept that price. It's an asshole ideology.
And banning GMO labeling is just authoritarian bullshit. Now requiring GMO labeling might be unreasonable.
Umm...you completely misunderstand. You're welcome to stick a GMO label on food if you want; the ban is against laws that require labeling (i.e. governments telling other governments what to do.) The laws that require labeling are authoritarian.
One can get food poisoning from ANY restaurant that does not follow basic food safety and preparation standards (like washing produce, etc).
Try again. Reading the article this time:
At least 17 Chipotle restaurants in Minnesota have been linked to a Salmonella outbreak that sickened at least 45 people and sent five to the hospital.
So you're telling me that SEVENTEEN restaurants didn't follow basic food safety? This is your ideology speaking again: If the food is tainted badly enough, then short of scrubbing each leaf with antibiotics, you aren't going to remove the parasites.
Well the nice thing about biology is that we can get to a good cause-and-effect description of why something might cause harm to you.
In the case of organic, it's simple: Cow shit is well known to have many parasites, salmonella and e. coli among them. Both are known to cause people to get sick, and in some cases kill people, because both excrete chemicals into your intestines that are highly toxic, which your intestines try to flush out, giving you bad diarrhea.
As for GMO...let's see, we have a few studies suggesting a very shaky "link" to cancer in rats, immune problems, and digestive problems. Yet every single one of these studies has proven to be A) borderline fraudulent B) scientific misconduct, or C) both. And furthermore, there is no cause and effect description in a single one of these studies.
http://www.slate.com/articles/...
I'll tell you what: If glyphosate shows up in any material quantity (one or even a hundred parts per million isn't significant at all) then we can put it on the food labels.
glyphosates are now being shown to definitely be harmful
It's only been shown harmful to people coming into direct contact with huge quantities of it. Though I think coming into direct contact with cow shit used for organic farming is probably more hazardous to your health, yet people like you don't go around espousing the dangers of organic food.
Furthermore, glyphosate isn't the only application of GMO food. If you want to attack glyphosate, then make your issues with glyphosate instead of genetic modification.
But you won't, because that would actually make sense. You're in this for an ideology, which doesn't necessarily have to make any sense at all, just so long as it fits your personal world view.