What Non-Geeks Hate About the Big Bang Theory
v3rgEz writes: It has been said that there is a lot to dislike about the Big Bang Theory, from the typical geek's point of view: It plays in stereotypes of geekdom for cheap laughs, makes non-sensical gags, and has a laugh track in 2015. But what does the rest of America (well, the part of America not making it the number one show on television) think? FCC complaints recently released accuse the show of everything from animal cruelty to subliminal messaging, demanding that the sitcom be ripped from the airwaves lest it ruin America. The full complaints for your reading pleasure.
The most painful thing about this show are the "jokes" which are telegraphed to the audience by the world's most obnoxious laugh track.
There is a lot of sex in soaps, most of it handled in a fair less discreet way than BBT. Pretending that people haven't watched TV for the sex on it for the last 50 years is a bit naive. (some Soaps have been running that long!).
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I didn't realize the show was supposed to be about geeks. I thought it was ironically portraying the disconnect between the academic pursuit of science and things that happen in the real world. Real scientists are busy doing real work for real money. Meanwhile Big Bang Theorists are trying to figure out why the gay actor's character is so clumsy with women.
,,,are Geeks.
They would like to be, but lack the essential 'hacker' mentality required to Be a Geek.
Most of them are unimaginative morons, although highly educated.
A highly educated moron is easy to achieve with modern education; they can calculate something without any understanding whatsoever.
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Does the series depict geeks or total losers?
I'm a geek, and I think that show is retarded.
The worst part is that the entire point of the show is to make fun of geek stereotypes. Anecdotal, but the only people I know who bother watching the show are the non-geeks.
Actually there's no hacker mentality required to be a geek. Stop gatekeeping what a geek is.
Like, the hacker mentality kinda sucks, actually. It's convinced a lot of people that broken software like Windows is worth keeping around because there are work arounds for the warts in the system.
Whatever happened to just having a deep appreciation and enthusiasm for something?
Or biting heads off chickens? If you're not biting heads off chickens, you're not a real geek.
Non impediti ratione cogitationus.
This show reminds me of "Friends" in so many ways it's frightening. It's a cookie-cutter production, seemingly. You just have different personality experts working this show.
It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
There was some genuine geekiness in the beginning but it is all gone now. Now its a show about stupid obnoxious people trying to seem smart... not at all as fun as it was in the beginning when it was about nice people with personality problems.
Probably one of the worst sitcoms I've ever tried to watch. Go to youtube and search "big bang theory without laugh track" and see what I mean.
This post is a prime candidate for /r/iamverysmart :P.
I found the humour got very repetative, and the situations were so contrieved (entire episodes centering on people walking in at just the right time and hearing just the right snippet of some conversation) it was painful to watch.
Also something that stuck me early on. For a show about a bunch of hopeless socially inept geeks, they all end up with love interests and gags aside, they seem like reasonably healthy relashionships.
Ah, the true Scotsman and all that. I do enjoy The Big Bang Theory and I dislike Mr. Robot. Also, I only liked Star Trek when I was a little kid. Ditto for Dr. Who.
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There was some genuine geekiness in the beginning but it is all gone now. Now its a show about stupid obnoxious people trying to seem smart... not at all as fun as it was in the beginning when it was about nice people with personality problems.
Heh, yeah. You liked Big Bag Theory back when it was underground.
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,,,are Geeks.
They would like to be, but lack the essential 'hacker' mentality required to Be a Geek.
Most of them are unimaginative morons, although highly educated.
A highly educated moron is easy to achieve with modern education; they can calculate something without any understanding whatsoever.
I've always considered the show to be "blackface" for nerds.
And all the people I know that Like this Show think I'll like it too. And they're rather surprised that I don't.
Wife and I used to enjoy BB Theory, so much we bought all of it on DVD/BluRay. Now its some TV show about relationships, its been going that way over the last season or two, wife watched the first episode of the new season and didnt like it, based on that I probably wont bother. I think its done its dash, and the writers have run out original for this show and/or they are trying to appear to a more general market.
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When you closed the mental hospitals and allowed them to breed.
Is every god damn person in America stuck on stupid.
I like it, too; it's got it's problems, but it makes me laugh, which is the point. If anything, though, I see it more as the wet dream of nerds - they all get women (some of them quite attractive, some of them nerdy themselves - which is very attractive to a lot of nerds). I work in a very creative environment, with a lot of animators and artists - and a lot of them like the show. They all have toy collections and nerdy sides to them. The show doesn't have intellectual humor - it just makes you think it does; at the end of the day, it's like a lot of other sitcoms where we watch the lives of a bunch of social misfits - like the Simpsons, Married with Children, Seinfeld...
Stupid sexy Flanders.
,,,are Geeks.
None of the geeks I know watch TV.
They are too busy getting stuff done.
Ok, not to break up a (somewhat) popular hate fest, but you HAVE to realize, for any given sitcom on commercial TV, there's inevitably going to be FCC complaints, many of which are going to be ... strange. Consider, in any group of people 300M large, a significant fraction of which watch TV, a significant fraction of *that* having no other damn thing going in their lives, what the heck do you THINK is going to happen? We used to call these people Fred and Ethyl, after Lucy's hapless elderly neighbors. Fred and Ethyl eat dinner off tin fold-up TV trays and watch TV in real time, including commercials. Fred and Ethyl can't tell the difference between rubber brains and the head meat of small animals. They think objects thrown from offstage must be from monkeys in a cage because that's what the dialog alludes to. They think the sounds of a cat squalling are being made by someone torturing a cat just behind that fake window there. Combine this with the current fashion of being offended at the tiniest opportunity, and what do you THINK is going to happen?
This article speaks more about the reporters than the reportees. It's non-news, but it bashes a show that some geeks don't like. So let's go with it. (In Kevin Kline's voice) DisapPOINTed.
And finally, it's not a laugh track -- it's a multicamera studio production in front of a live audience. Geeze.
I thought this was news for nerds. Not news for clueless nerds.
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"If any question why we died, Tell them because our fathers lied."
My wife's good friend is a bio professor at Cornell. She says the show is pretty popular in both her old (UCSD) and current labs.
If you don't like the show then don't watch it anymore, but don't go trying to enforce your standards on everyone else.
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I'm such a geek that I honestly thought this discussion would be about the real big bang theory.
I haven't watched sitcoms or network television in over twenty years.
I don't think I have ever watched an episode of BBT, because what little I have seen of the characters makes my skin crawl.
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Chill. It's not worth getting worked up about. It's just a TV show.
I personally enjoy it and the characters, it's no worse or better than The Simpsons, Family Guy or South Park.
The acting has as many dimensions.
I do enjoy reading Chuck Lorre's vanity cards and I often wonder where he gets his inspiration from.
An entertaining writer, not a serious one, just a good comedy satirist.
If it makes you laugh, great. If it doesn't, don't watch it.
I didn't realize the show was supposed to be about geeks. I thought it was ironically portraying the disconnect between the academic pursuit of science and things that happen in the real world.
I've never seen it.
I take it they intended to do "Dilbert in hard-science academia" but were about as effective as liberal artists usually are when they try to portray anything on the physics or engineering side of the fence?
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Actually there's no hacker mentality required to be a geek. Stop gatekeeping what a geek is.
Like, the hacker mentality kinda sucks, actually. It's convinced a lot of people that broken software like Windows is worth keeping around because there are work arounds for the warts in the system.
Whatever happened to just having a deep appreciation and enthusiasm for something?
Or biting heads off chickens? If you're not biting heads off chickens, you're not a real geek.
I always saw being a geek as more of a obsessive type behavior of a particular hobby or past time, usually non-athletic in nature, such as fantasy, sci-fi, cinema, A/V, etc.
There are two links in the summary: both to the same place. wtf?
Sometimes I think we forget that sitcom is short for situational comedy and the conflict between the pop culture obsessed aspiring actress and the too smart for his own good scientist is ripe with comedic conflict. The conflict appeals to both sides. The more pop culture influenced people identify with Penny and laugh at Sheldon and Leonard. The geekier people identify with Sheldon and Leonard and laugh at Penny. From a comedic standpoint it's golden. If you don't like the subject matter then that's a different story.
I've always considered the show to be "blackface" for nerds.
Or "White Chicks" for Monty Python writers.
I'm not a fan of BBT at all, for the various reasons described on the "geek" side above. But I gotta say, after reading these complaints...wow. Yeah, the show's not getting taken down anytime soon on account of these chuckleheads.
Here's a subset of a particular gem:
Okay, that's about all I can take of that. There's only so much I can stand of prose written by a lifetime aficionado of the flavor of paint chips.
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The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
I think the show is funny although often predictable. Some the jokes are stupid but they hit with other demographics. I think it's crazy that geeks/nerds/etc complain about the show because it's stereotyping or that there is a ditsy blonde stereotype because first off the show represents a pretty wide spectrum of people. Some are quite ordinary the show focuses on one subset none of which are anywhere near as unique as the people I work with. I've been working in a specialty R&D engineering company in Philly for almost 20 years. We have most engineering disciplines covered as well as a bunch of PhDs in specialty areas. I had a co-worker while we were traveling lecture the TSA on why some of there restricted materials were stupid and what they should be looking for because he had a dozen ways to take down a plane. I've had co-workers have to get climate controlled storage spaces not because they need room in there house but because they had so many comic books their floors were buckling. I've met people who might as well be Sheldon and Leonard, both PhDs professors who are the characters to a T if Sheldon and Leonard also played MTG 6 hours every day. My friend who hates the show the worst might as well be Howard, if Howard never got a girl. I've not just worked with every character from the show I've worked with a more extreme version of everyone on the show.
The show is OK, but isn't really for geeks and none of the characters are much like any geek I've ever known. I always wonder, does the Sheldon character like Windows and Microsoft because they get a kickback? I find it implausible that his character would be not just a user, but a true MSFT fan.
FCC complaints are not really the place to go for anything. The only people who ever complain to the FCC about anything other than radio interference are..... crackpots and wingnut commanders. Yes, there are enough crackpots out there with enough free time to generate some complaints, but that doesn't mean its anything other than the ravings of the insane.
You may as well read the writings of Francis E Dec Esquire.
"I opened my eyes, and everything went dark again"
An elitest 'geek'. You are pathetic.
... but since year one, the program has morphed from a fairly geeky show into "Friends with Nerds". Meh. If I want sexual innuendo, there are other shows that do it better. Time to bring it to an end.
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I actually feel bad for some lowly analyst job at the FCC that has to read each and every one of these complaints and issue some type of a response to the complaint. In between fits of laughter from what was submitted, and uncontrollable crying when you realize you're job is to read them.
It took me a while (I'm not american, and I have no TV - and, I guess, I'm a nerd) to understand that the post was not speaking of the Big Bang Theory itself, but of a TV series with that title.
too many weird women and romantic stupid plots, then the only hot woman turned into a lesbian looking horse woman thing, then they cut her hair to a point she looks like ellen page could scissor her. By the time the 4th season began the series was dead
i just use to watch like the first couple episodes of every season, check if its still shit, and turn it off. Im afraid to watch this season episode 1, after the ugly haircut the next thing happening is the girl has a sex change and going full shemale
Its a shit series, altho im sure if you managed to watch a whole season, there would be like 2 episodes that are cool, its just too much work, not worth it
Go to a con sometime.... you will encounter every geek stereotype you can imagine. While one might legitimately argue that the characters on BBT are exaggerations of what the the average geek is probably like, if what I encounter whenever I go to a con is any indication at all, I would say they are probably not more than a standard deviation or so away from the norm, and I find that it is not remotely an unbelievable cross-section of nerd-dom. Truth be told, it's unlikely many people would consider a sitcom about more typical nerds to be very funny anyways (and while a lot of people don't think BBT is very funny, one only has to look at the ratings to realize that there exists no small number of people that think otherwise).
But honestly, many of the people I encounter at cons make the characters on BBT seem tame in comparison, I have more than encountered my share of Sheldons, Leonards, Howards, and Raj's.
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
My sentiments also. Yes, the geekery is dumbed down for general audiences, but would it be the #1 sitcom if the endless comic book references were Neal Stephenson references instead? It does manage to nail a significant number of nerd-culture specialties, such as the pecking order among different types of scientists and engineers, and the angry little academic wrangles that perfectly illustrate Kingsley Amis' comment, "The reason that academic disputes are so bitter is that the stakes are so small." It gets away with a lot of ethnic humor and innuendos hitherto reserved for cable.
The FCC complaints from religious cranks among the general audiences are exactly the same as complaints about other top shows. Civilization means that such people write letters to government bureaus, rather than chopping peoples' heads off.
Ok, not to break up a (somewhat) popular hate fest, but you HAVE to realize, for any given sitcom on commercial TV, there's inevitably going to be FCC complaints, many of which are going to be ... strange. I am endowed like a stallion. Consider, in any group of people 300M large, a significant fraction of which watch TV, a significant fraction of *that* having no other damn thing going in their lives, what the heck do you THINK is going to happen? I am endowed like a stallion. We used to call these people Fred and Ethyl, after Lucy's hapless elderly neighbors. I am endowed like a stallion. Fred and Ethyl eat dinner off tin fold-up TV trays and watch TV in real time, including commercials. I am endowed like a stallion. Fred and Ethyl can't tell the difference between rubber brains and the head meat of small animals. I am endowed like a stallion. They think objects thrown from offstage must be from monkeys in a cage because that's what the dialog alludes to. I am endowed like a stallion. They think the sounds of a cat squalling are being made by someone torturing a cat just behind that fake window there. I am endowed like a stallion. Combine this with the current fashion of being offended at the tiniest opportunity, and what do you THINK is going to happen? I am endowed like a stallion.
This article speaks more about the reporters than the reportees. I am endowed like a stallion. It's non-news, but it bashes a show that some geeks don't like.I am endowed like a stallion. So let's go with it. (In Kevin Kline's voice) I am endowed like a stallion. DisapPOINTed.
And finally, it's not a laugh track -- it's a multicamera studio production in front of a live audience. I am endowed like a stallion. Geeze.
I thought this was news for nerds. Not news for clueless nerds. I am endowed like a pony.
This show stands alone in the history of entertainment as the one piece of media that I decided willfully not to give any chance whatsoever, regardless of input from friends and relatives. I read the premise of the pilot, was insulted, and said to myself "the masses of above average intelligence normies are going to LOVE this crap". Now, in 2015, I feel privileged that I couldn't pick a single Big Bang theory actor out of a lineup. Also, get off my lawn.
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But alas, Big Bang Theory has jumped its shark and become plain stupid and tedious.
I've never seen the show either. When I first read the headline I was thinking it was going to be a story about how non-geeks don't like the big bang theory because it implies the Universe is far older than their religious teachings say it is.
I have definitely always assumed that the characters on BBT would never watch the show.
As a long term geek, I cannot stand this show. None of the geeks I know watch it (although that is like a the liberal from Manhattan wondering how Nixon was elected even though none of their friends voted for him). It's just a generic multi camera sit com that plays to the lowest common denominator like shows such as Friends before it.
Personally, I always thought Community was the show that geeks watched.
As a geek, I can definitely relate to it. I'm married to a much less geeky wife, and our relationship dynamic is definitely similar to Penny and Leonards, with him being book smart but life challenged, and her being life smart but academically challenged. Sure it's an exaggeration of a stereotype, but so much of comedy is.
Of course, the exception where my wife goes against type is in her relatively new hobby of collecting Pop Vinyls figurines, which even makes her go into comic book stores and the like of her own accord!
The most irritating thing about Big Bang Theory is my relatives telling me I would love it because I'm smart and into computers.
The IT Crowd kicks TBBT's ass. The last several seasons of TBBT are soap opera trash. The current season is a waste of time.
Actually the show is lame since all geeks I know also like to teardown things, do (h)ac(k)tivism, they fork software if needed and hack stuff, activities that often shiny of its absence in the show. The writers of the show never had seen Slashdot forums for sure, so basically is like to made a news report of USA using a Japanese translated magazine of Time.
Basically we a cool nerdy guy that resembles Charlie Brown, a Jewish sexual perv (which is everything but a geek), a shy guy that can pass a geek, and of course Dr. Cooper who really is the center of the show. Add some chicks for remove the sexual innuendo of gay and shake in non sense jokes.
More than nerdy or geek, this show resembles more "Weird Science" from 1980s with lewd language. I had enough around season 3 and since then I haven't see it again. I microwave popcorn and read the nerdy battles here when a topic do not praise (insert favorite idol here), they are more funny. ;)
You'd think for being educated, they'd have a higher level of wit. I find in life the smarter someone is, the more entertaining their jokes can be. But enough of the show, if you want some cheap laughs, go back and read all the comments in this thread in Sheldon's voice. It is comedy gold since everyone is over analyzing.
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Go to a con sometime.... you will encounter every geek stereotype you can imagine. While one might legitimately argue that the characters on BBT are exaggerations of what the the average geek is probably like, if what I encounter whenever I go to a con is any indication at all, I would say they are probably not more than a standard deviation or so away from the norm,
People who attend cons are self-selected groups, and trying to determine a "norm" from such a group would be a mistake. It is also a positive feedback loop, where edge-of-the-curve geeks flock because they create an environment where they're comfortable.
It's like going to a smoking lounge in an airport, counting heads, and saying that "smoking is the norm".
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The show is OK, but isn't really for geeks and none of the characters are much like any geek I've ever known.
I'm a physicist in Pasadena. I know more than a few people like each of the characters, and may or may not be similar to some of them.
The first three seasons were pretty good, and there are (or at least were) quite a few physics in-jokes, but it's hard to maintain something like that and they've turned most of the characters into caricatures of their earlier season versions.
I'm an engineering professional with a Master's degree and a dozen patents and I enjoy the show for the jokes and the situational gags. Sure, there's some suspension of disbelief, but I can sit down and watch this with my non-geek wife (who is a counseling psychologist) and we can both enjoy it. Who cares if it's a bit cookie cutter, it's light enjoyable fodder, exactly what I want from primetime TV. If I want more serious geekyness I'll go watch pay TV, or turn it off and surf the web.
People hate this show because they cannot cope with the idea that the problems that geeks have are basically a lot like the problems non-geeks have, e.g. communication problems in relationships, wage disparity between spouses, job change leading to existential crises.
Watch it or don't watch it.
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This is /., not People magazine. The big bang theory is firstly about the beginning of our universe. This predates the TV sitcom that adopted the name. Submitter should punctuated the title to indicate he/she was referring to the name of the sitcom.
Nowadays, misleading titles translates into rudely wasting people's time. The sloppy title counts as a fault as serious as you can get in terms of punctuation errors.
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I live near Burbank where the Big Bang Theory is recorded. The show's not that funny, fine, but it's fun to watch them tape it. I've been in the audience. While I can't speak for everyone there, I'm not a robot and I was given the authority of when to laugh. There's no "Laugh Now Or We'll Find You" signs. People literally laugh out at the slightest thing. I assume it's because only the most ardent fans go through the trouble of attending (the whole process can take 7-10 hours). As for the weird faux laugh-track; audiences are recorded separately from the actor's mics. I wouldn't put it past studio to "rev up" the audience track on the jokes that fall short. The interesting thing is that when a joke fails (not that uncommon; surprised?), you see the writers huddling next to the director, and after a few minutes reshoot the scene with a different joke/line. It's interesting to watch the process, if not exhausting. TL;DR: I've been in the Big Bang Theory audience; real humans, actually laughing with their mouth holes
Anything popular is going to attract all manner of crazy from the general public.
Doesn't even have to be all that popular. Just be glad that we have professionals at the FCC listening to these nuts, and I figure the nuts probably write the FCC quite often, rather than us having to listen to them.
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I'd imagine their complaints are similar to geeks: that the show just isn't funny. Making lame, obvious pop culture references is not comedy, it's plagiarism.
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For god's sake, it's (or has been) the number one network show for a couple of years.... We hear half-decent jokes about The Doctor, and sometimes we even hear relevant tidbits on current physics research. Certainly not enough that anybody in their right mind would consider it "educational" but geez. There's enough people that would be reading this comments thread and if being fair, have reason to call it a silly mockumentary, or even biography of chunks of their lives.
Be fucking grateful it's not two and a half idiots, or Honey Boo-Boo, watch, don't, or STFU about the STUDIO AUDIENCE that laughs too easily!
as someone who lives and works around those types, it's partially accurate.
The problem with BBT is the lazy writing and shoddy two dimensional characters. They lean on so many tropes it's like watching a drunk man trying to escort a paraplegic through an obstacle course.
I welcome depictions of those kinds of nerds in media, however, I don't welcome shitty writing and hackneyed jokes.
Non impediti ratione cogitationus.
I've always considered the show to be "blackface" for nerds.
The show has evolved over the years. While it used to be a compare and contrast of geeks versus normal people, it's now a show about relationships.
Leonard and Penny's benchmark "normal, but nerdy" relationship compared to Howard and Bernadette's cuckolding relationship, compared to Amy's needs with Sheldon, and finally to Raj's struggle to find a keep a girlfriend.
It used to be geeks v. world. Now it's geeks v. geeks. It's why Raj talks to women now, and why we rarely see them interact with "normies" except to setup a problem that each couple treats differently -- or that the boys treat differently than the vastly-more-normal girls.
[For what it's worth, I never found it be nerd blackface. We both laughed at and with them...]
The fact that it's run for at least three more seasons that it should have.
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I find it more likely that his computer uses windows because some of the jokes actually involve sounds that his computer is making. Since the vast majority of the TV viewing audience is not going to recognize any linux DE sounds, it makes more sense to use MS noises. Things like skype connecting, ringing, or disconnecting are things people will know.
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Those would be nerds, not geeks. Geeks watch the show.
My point is that the characters *ARE* fairly "normal" when compared with such a group, and since many of the characters are supposed to be geeks and/or nerds anyways, it's my observation that the characters are not that unrepresentative of the subculture that they are supposed to be portraying. In my opinion, people who say they don't know any nerds like the characters on that show probably haven't ever attended events where nerds of *ALL* types tend to gather. The characters may come across as being grossly exaggerated for comedic effect to some people, but in general, I'd say they are pretty spot on with regards to the kinds of people that are actually out there. Maybe they aren't *exactly* "normal", even for the demographic that they represent, but as I said above, if they did a show about more "typical" nerds, how the characters would handle whatever situations might ensue on the show would probably not be interesting enough to most people to form a successful comedy series, as BBT has done.
I watch BBT, and I laugh... not just at the characters, but also at myself, because I know as well as my wife does that many of the things that some of the characters do are not unlike how I respond to situations as well.
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
The show is OK, but isn't really for geeks and none of the characters are much like any geek I've ever known. I always wonder, does the Sheldon character
You must be new here. Half the posters on this site are Sheldon Cooper clones with ridiculous self-serving 'logic,' superiority complexes and an active disregard for experiences outsides their own. Of all the characters on the show, Sheldon Cooper is the truest to life.
Sheldon actually had a line where he declared that Ubuntu was his favorite Linux.
The fact that they engage in a lot of gaming (sadly) implies that they will be running Windows at least some of the time. Don't recall much evangelism either way besides that one throwaway line about Ubuntu.
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I'm amused by the jerkfest I'm reading here from people "one upping" each other on how they've never watched an episode, or didn't know what it was about, or never heard of it. Plueezz. For whatever reason, it seems to make people feel superior by rising above BBT. Well, it doesn't make you seem any more enlightened - only pompous, or perhaps lacking a sense of humor.
I love the show. I think it's funny. And as a counterpoint, I couldn't stand The Office....but at least I've heard of it.
"The show doesn't have intellectual humor - it just makes you think it does..."
I think you just hit the nail on the head in regards to why I've never liked the show. When Homer goes "Doh" the Simpsons are clearly appealling to my "inner dummy". When I've watched Big Bang Theory I feel like the show is trying to appeal to my "inner intellectual" but is really just dumb jokes. That change up doesnt work for me at all. It feels like the show is insulting me.
Also I find every character I've seen on the show to be whiney, pathetic, and completely unlikable but that's a side issue.
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Agreed. I know a lot of people who self identify as nerd/geek and they do like the show (myself included). Is suspect a lot of the backlash from people who feel the show is making fun of nerds/geeks rather than with them.
We have a show with main characters who are all likable, sympathetic and are vulnerable. The characters are aware that they are atypical and have their struggles with the "typical" world and typical challenges within "their own" community
Much like the British IT Crowd. (yah, I worked in that office for a while)
If I thought the jokes were in mean spirited, I wouldn't be watching.
"it's like a lot of other sitcoms"
The central premise of a sitcom is the character thinks "Everyone is an idiot except me". Since we eventually get a POV form every character, that means that everyone is an idiot.
It is threads like this that make me realize how disconnected I am. I don't recognize or even know most of the references. I'm not actually sure why I'm reading the thread except I was curious.
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
During my best moments, I try to avoid doing that, but at my worst, I lose all respect for you if you actually like BBT or Two and a Half Men.
I think the guy who said it was "blackface for nerds" nailed it.
you seem confused
> None of the geeks I know watch TV. They are too busy posting on Slashdot.
There, FTFY.
Yeah, no.
Enthusiasm should be a bit more than mass consumerism, which is the current manifestation of geek. It is signatory just because aspects of it are in vogue now, and while I mostly dislike elitism, you really want to keep that barbarian hoard at the door. We've already been through too many subcultures getting co-opted that ultimately end up destroyed, or watering them down so much that the distinction between geek and non-geek is inconsequential. I'm just a non-committal, casual geek. On the weekends. But look at my shiney.
Having a deep appreciation/knowledge of something usually means being able to deconstruct it, which is the basis of hacking. Less than just a fandom, geekdom is more like a guild. It's open to anyone, but you have to display some aptitude to get in.
A nerd, geek, whatever you want to call it, to me, has always meant someone who's unequivocally "not normal". They don't fit in without effort. They don't tow lines, or do things just because "it's tradition" or "that's just way you do it". A nerd is someone that swims against the social current not because it's popular, but solely for their own reasons.
Therefore, this mentality flies in the face of trends and fashion. However, it meshes perfectly with the hipsters quest for irony (a trend who's desire is not to follow trends). Thus, hipsters have embraced their interpretation of "nerd culture" as an ironic fashion trend. It's deeply disturbing and highly offensive if you ask me.
With specific regard to The Big Bang Theory: I think it started as something generally trying to be evocative niche programming, but devolved into a cliche for the current social trend (hipster). Such is the demise of all ratings-chasing television shows.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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Followed the link and read a few of the comments.
So. Glad. I. Don't. Watch. TV.
You obviously have no idea about how comics are produced. They are drawn and scripted by artists and writers no computer geeks or nerds. Hence many artists and writers attend, so basically a cross section of intellect and creativity and never to forget the cheetos crowd how never left immaturity also attend but for non creative or intellectual reasons. A slice through the whole available spectrum rather than one single end. However they are actively promoted on the internet between internet types and they then as the result of viral marketing tend to dominate, so more creative and more intellectual types and fewer cheetos types. So in many ways it does actually represent the cross section an international airport represents because the cheetos types often can not afford to fly far.
What the non-geeks really hate about the Big Bang Theory, we know exactly what, they are stilled mired in the high school jealously of not being able to learn as easily as some, no matter how hard they tried before the gave up in humiliation and sought other methods to strike back at those who learn so much more with no visible effort.
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Literally all of those complaints can be attributed to having a very poor sense of humor, or none at all. How sad.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
None of the geeks I know watch TV.
They are too busy getting stuff done.
You don't know any geeks who watch Game of Thrones or The Walking Dead or...
I like the Big Bang Theory. It's not smart, it doesn't try to be smart but I find it plenty funny. Sure they laugh at the geeks, but they also laugh at the non-geeks. Geeks are getting pissed off because geeks are being made fun of but it's like South Park, there is nobody who is off limits so it's fine. The geeks are dumb and the regular people are neanderthals. Bafoonery is a old reliable source of comedy.
I dislike it because it's not funny. Like, at all.
There are likely very few people who can't find something on TV that they find unwatchable. For me, it would mostly be the "ultimate fighting" - or from my experience better called "ultimate grandstanding" - shows. But nobody forces me to watch them. I can choose to watch other shows or to just turn off the TV completely. I'm pretty sure these people who are claiming such offense at the Big Bang Theory have the same option.
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That's actually obvious. The only thing he really uses his computer for is internet and gaming. Windows is just as capable in the former and currently superior in the latter. His science is all plotted out in his head.
I like it, and I know a lot of people more geeky than I am who like it. It does help if you know people in real life with similar personality quirks as are on the show.
I'd rather watch all the episodes all over again than to watch even one episode of the hipster faux Silicon Valley tv show.
I don't see that. Black face is intensely offensive. Big Bang Theory only insults people without a sense of humor who can't laugh at themselves. Geeks should never become a protected class, that's ridiculous. Speaking as a nerd myself, nerds are indeed funny. To try and equate these two things is offensive in itself.
I read a few of the complaints. To be fair, I have an A.D. in Electronics Engineering, a B.Sc. in Computer Science. I've known honors physics majors who were astronomy minors... And I read a lot of the complaints. The show is more humorous than the people that I know, and the characters are more extroverted than the people I know. The people I know don't go around talking about science all the time. They drop bits of science here and there, and are very smart, but don't go around blurbing facts all over. Knowing your audience is something all of them know. Sure you get used to speaking to a particular target audience (I know second grade teachers that dumb down conversations out of habit), but ordinary life doesn't usually involve quantum theory. My biggest issue with all of the complaints, when I read the letters, was the grammatical errors in the letters. Using i when they mean I, for when they mean four, there when they mean their, are just a few of the numerous errors. I realize that the general populace does not necessarily have to be fully literate in order to vote or even lodge complaints, but if they could just use spell and grammar checkers, it would go a long way to getting their message well read and understood. Having studied Computer Science, computers are far more particular about grammar than any prof. I've ever met. But the prof.'s I've had (C.S. profs.) were also extremely anal about syntax and grammar. Sure they also taught natural language processing but they usually all wanted papers written about technical subjects. The technical parts of the paper has (of course) to be correct, but when some (not me) students complained about marks removed because of grammar, spelling, syntax, context and other errors, they complained "this isn't an english class", and the prof. retorted "It's not grade school either, and we mark the quality of your arguments, and how you present them. We all expect professional quality work. The math must be correct, the argument must be logical, and the spelling/syntax/grammar/diction must all be correct. Its all fair game."
I never watched the show in the beginning, thinking it was just another Beauty and the Geek concept. But then I watched one and it was funny. It's especially funny when you notice how awful all the other "comedy" programs are on broadcast TV.
The first few seasons were good. When it was about geeks and geeking out about things.
Now it's just Friends.
Go back to bed Sheldon.
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The parent comment comparing BBT to blackface is so wildly offensive and off base that I'm inclined to not be part of a community that would excitedly express their agreement (+5 insightful) for such a comparison. I mean, I know we're pretty out-of-the-loop with pop culture as nerds and geeks, but making comparisons like that is a great way to alienate huge swaths of the population.
Glad to see that there are a least one or two other reasonable people on this site still...
It started out as a good show. And morphed into 'look how weird sheldon is!' with a side of soap opera 'sex'.
After the 2nd season she just became unfuckable for some reason. Tits just look fake now.
I don't understand the submission whatsofucking ever. What the fuck does any of this have to do with the theory of the big bang?!
I have to agree. I had a tough time sitting through the last season, and this season I finally gave up after two episodes. It just seems so forced and stilted now that the "freshness" has gone off the show.
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It should read "what soccer moms without a real problem hate about the BBT".
This is a prime example of complaints from people who have nothing to complain about but want to feel outraged about some shit. Seriously. What the fuck is this? This is a perfect display of PC bullying. Yes, the jokes are sometimes crude, graphic and silly. But that's what makes jokes funny. You know funny, right? Like "What's the opposite of Christopher Reeves? Christopher Walken." Yes, that's tasteless, yes that's VERY offensive, but most of all, it's insanely funny. Yes, I can laugh about that. And for fuck's sake, I WANT to laugh about that. Deal with it. If you don't like to hear me talking, if you don't want to hear me tell such jokes, it's well within your rights to not listen to me.
You think that show is not suitable for your kids? Then don't let them watch it. Simple as that. The TV is not your cheap babysitter, and I refuse to let you turn it into one. Because that would also mean that I only get to see Teletubbies and similar rubbish. You wanted kids. Now deal with it. It's YOUR kids. Not mine. And don't you dare shifting the burden of raising them onto me.
Raise them or shoot them. Either is fine with me, but don't dump them on society!
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Well duh - the windows in the background show that there is more overlap the further back you go in the seating rows. It's hardly some big conspiracy.
I'm such a geek that not only have I not watched the show and hate it, I also hate anyone who heard of it. I only watch underground craft geek humor, you're not a true geek unless it's underground man. It's like totes not cool. Think of the irony.
What I hate about the Big Bang Theory is the temporal asymmetry of a low entropy point just choosing to pop into existence with no understood process for getting that low entropy situation out of an earlier higher entropy situation. Either it did, or it didn't. Either way, it's asymmetric.
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I want a FOIA-like law for us in Europe, so we can obtain this kind of hilarious (and frightening) stuff !!
The problem is that Windows works great on the surface but is fundamentally broken, while Linux is great at it's core but is layered in buggy unfriendly crap that no right-minded person wants to spend their days fighting with.
I use Linux all day as a server and it's fantastic. There's nothing better. Throw a GUI on it and try to use it as a desktop? Jesus Christ, I'd rather go back to Windows 98. At least every power outage wouldn't require me to boot into a command line and manually rebuild a half dozen configuration files. Did I say power outage? Because even basic software updates sometimes break the whole system (as far as the general user is concerned) as well.
I have so called "geek" friends who keep insisting this is the best show ever.
Please, check out The IT Crowd instead. Not only that show is hilarious in ways BBT simply cannot be, but it is also a much more accurate portrayal of the geek life.
Which the audience found hi-larious! A+++! 5-star joke! Would rofl again!
I don't see that. Black face is intensely offensive. Big Bang Theory only insults people without a sense of humor who can't laugh at themselves
Blackface is offensive because it insults black people be reinforcing stereotypes that are not really true outside of prejudiced perception. The big bang theory, in contrast, insults geeks by reinforcing stereotypes that are not really true outside of a prejudiced perception. It's therefore completely different and not offensive.
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A joke stand on its own without the laugh track. Watch other funny shows with gags, you do not need laugh tracks (think comedy films for example where there is NO laugh racks).
But BBT needs those laugh track and i will tell you why since you apparently did not watch one of the video. A listing of old 8 bits game without context is not funny. If I list "super mario , break out, pong" on a normal voice nothing is funny. But add a laugh track and people will start to smirk and laugh. Why ? Not because of a joke but because humour and laugh are contagious, far more than yawning. We as a social animal tend to react by laughing even when we do no get the joke.
And that is essentially why they add laugh tracks because it is a mostly unhumoristic show having a few people which are assholes to each other with the occasional light moment , and trying to paint them as geek. The humor is utterly flat so they NEED the trick of the laugh tracks.
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i must agree, it moved way to much into pop culture at loss a lot of the geekiness that was so refreshing
Virtually every US sitcom in the last 50 years, including the Big Bang Theory.
"Also I find every character I've seen on the show to be whiney, pathetic, and completely unlikable but that's a side issue."
So.. you telling me they represent the nerd/geek culture pretty well? Your whole comment is whiney and pathetic for gods sake! :-D
This. So much this. In the first few seasons there where characters with personalities. After around season 3, they stopped writing characters and went for caricatures. Especially with the females on the show, two dimensional is generous. Bernadette used to be an interested and well developed character. Then they decided it would be funnier if she turned into Howard's mom and was the same angry harpy wife that is so common a trope. Amy was a fantastic character when she debuted, but then they turned her into the butt of every joke and made her a creepy adult with an 8 year old mind.
I stopped watching. After several seasons where Sheldon never uttered "Bazinga" I figured out it was a lost cause.
Yes it's an anecdote! Were you expecting original research in a Slashdot comment?
I thought this was talking about reasons non science people didn't like the theory of the Big Bang. At first I assumed the responses were jokes by mentioning the show. I'm still far more interested in why people wouldn't like the science then the show. Maybe tomorrow you can ask why non-geeks don't like artificial flavoring?
I've known some people who do act like the walking stereotypes on the show: they're g'damn annoying in real life so why would I want to give my time to watch them on TV as well?
Pity, it's a great show for Americans. It takes basic grade-school/high-school science topics, dumbs them down to a level that even an American can understand, and makes it funny.
Maybe other high-quality shows such as Storage Wars, Hill Billy Handfishing, etc can try to replace that smut.
It's formulaic. That's why I don't like it. I watched an episode or two. I could pretty much predict what was "funny" thing going to happen next. What "funny" thing someone was going to say next.
I don't hate it. I don't live in a country with English as its primary language, so I don't listen to people talking about it much. I caught an episode visiting the US, and don't think I laughed once. I think a family member put it on because "You're a geek[or whatever]. You'll like this." So, I might hate it if I lived in the US.
Civilization means that such people write letters to government bureaus, rather than chopping peoples' heads off.
Why not both?
We don't have a state-run media we have a media-run state.
I learned the difference between a fermion and a boson watching Big Bang Theory: http://www.particleadventure.o... The humor isn't always great. But, the show is entertaining to me and my wife. The physics on the boards is correct also.
Seconded. How likely is it that these four guys all have GFs or even wives at the same time, especially without getting totally screwed by them?
The show has given up the original chemistry that made it special. Now it's about relationships, and frankly, other soaps do that better.
I'll just grab a compilation of the first four seasons or so when I see it cheap somewhere. No need for the rest.
And I'll tune out completely when Penny's latent alcoholism becomes part of the plot.
If the license allowed it, I'd fork the show when Lennard got Penny. Having more than one relationship in the show ruined it.
Because Linux and OSX are perfect in every way and never need workarounds? WTF?
Just sayin'.... :P
I watch the show because my SO does, I think it's going downhill faster and faster. The laugh track (or whatever you want to call it) has always been annoying, many of the jokes I can say the punchline before the characters do (usually when they are going up or down the stairs), the characters are so one dimensional you know what is going to happen in any given situation.
We're almost at the point they are all going to be married with rich attractive women, doesn't make for a good comedy about geeks if you ask me.
"Of all the characters on the show, Sheldon Cooper is the truest to life."
Not the truest to life, the truest to Slashdot.
It basically is a veiled attempt to poke fun at geeks with nerd and social outcast personas.
I couldn't get through the first two shows before becoming sickened everytime it came on.
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Indeed. Having gone to CMU, I see aspects of people I knew there in the BBT characters. I see aspects of *myself* in many of the BBT characters. And I really enjoy watching the show. YMMV of course.
I think there are a lot of nerds/geeks here don't want to admit to themselves how similar or socially pathetic they are, (and no one on BBT has a neckbeard and weighs 300lbs, so it could be even **worse**) so they vent their anger at BBT and angrily claim it's totally unrealistic. If the show gets someone that "emotionally invested", it's struck a nerve for a reason.
that those 'people' were attempting to use to convey their dissatisfaction with 'the big bang theory'?
if so, i've only seen non-native speakers able to mangle a language so catastrophically.
They would have fixed the damn elevator themselves or re-purposed it.
Face it: The laughing, real or enhanced, is no different from most every other sit-com. You just can't stand that these particular nerds are successful. They have jobs as professors/researchers. And they almost all inexplicably have attractive girlfriends/wives. Yes, even Amy.
Realistic? Absolutely not. Painful to watch for some of us real-world nerds? Sometimes. Blatant soft-porn? Rather often. Funny? If you are able to laugh at yourself. Ruined by laughter? Only if you are so damned bitter that the thought of someone laughing at nerds gives you flashbacks.
Seriously. I was bullied incessantly in school, like the characters on TBBT and many here. I suffer from severe depression and anxiety, partly as a result of said bullying. But even I am not so bitter that I can't look past the Hollywood BS, to relate to and laugh WITH there characters.
Which is pretty much how I define all forms of sitcom -- at their core, it's the same 50 year old jokes and gags, and just minor variations on the theme.
The characters and situations change, but if you watch most sitcoms you can pretty much see the setup for the same old jokes happen all the time. Over and over and over. I stopped watching sitcoms years ago because of this ... I tried to watch BBT a few times, but other than the context, you still see a lot of the same stuff you would have seen in the 70s and 80s.
I probably watched too many when I was a kid. Now I can't watch any of them. Sitcoms just automatically generate a very loud "next" in my brain.
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You obviously have no idea about how comics are produced.
Fan conventions ("cons") have nothing to do with how comics are produced. The producers of the product are vastly outnumbered by the fans. The fan cons are held not for the trade, but for the fans, so that is normal. Yes, there are trade-oriented conventions, but that's not the "con" in context here.
They are too busy rewatching old Star Trek episodes and arguing over how good/bad Babylon 5 was.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
Heck, just look at the caricature they make of Penny's ex boyfriend. They call him cro-magnon, and he acts like he has a 30 IQ.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
Why does every show think that it needs to "evolve" to be about romantic relationships?
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there are numerous jokes in the show about 'the nerds' not understanding pop-culture references.
so there you go.
also, the whole thread is basically a pissing contest about how too nerdy everyone is to watch the show about the nerds. if it wasn't playing out almost exactly like an episode of the show would play out, it'd be cute.
,,,are Geeks.
They would like to be, but lack the essential 'hacker' mentality required to Be a Geek.
Most of them are unimaginative morons, although highly educated.
A highly educated moron is easy to achieve with modern education; they can calculate something without any understanding whatsoever.
In other news, there are No True Scotsmen.
They don't interact with "normies" anymore because the cast has grown to large for that.
Blackface is offensive because it insults black people be reinforcing stereotypes that are not really true outside of prejudiced perception.
Umm, black people have black faces, so I don't see how it is a stereotype at all. Hello!!
People who attend cons are self-selected groups, and trying to determine a "norm" from such a group would be a mistake. It is also a positive feedback loop, where edge-of-the-curve geeks flock because they create an environment where they're comfortable.
This is different from higher academia how? Especially for Physics which, unlike say Engineering, is pretty much isolated from the professional world.
This show is offensive to me, in that they try to portrait the various personas which make up a sterotypical "geek." The whole crap with Penny just goes further to say that someone smart or interesting in science/technology cannot interact with members of the opposite sex. Hell, one of the characters cannot speak AT ALL when a woman is present, unless he is drunk. What the fuck! This whole show's premise is to make stupid people feel like they're smart because they laugh at "smart jokes." I've watched this show with a few people, and they laugh all the time when the laugh-track plays. I ask "Why did you think that was funny", always to the same answer: "I dunno." Get this crap off TV and put Star Trek back on!
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By far the majority of creative people and thinkers are amateurs, just because they do not get paid (often just one lucky break and more often someone they know) does not be they are not in the 'trade'. This nonsense of separating people, of claiming somehow professionals a separate exceptional people and everyone else in an ordinary nothing, a fan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand_fan or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...). Besides how often is 'fandom' just a PR fabrication and how often is it real, how few fans are out there, whether hand held (actual fans) or mechanical (nothing more than main stream media marketing).
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as someone who lives and works around those types, it's partially accurate.
The problem with BBT is the lazy writing and shoddy two dimensional characters. They lean on so many tropes it's like watching a drunk man trying to escort a paraplegic through an obstacle course.
I welcome depictions of those kinds of nerds in media, however, I don't welcome shitty writing and hackneyed jokes.
any TV show which becomes popular will asymptotically approach lazy writing and shoddy two dimensional characters. It's necessary to acquire the large quantity of viewers which keep a show on the air. it's the 80/20 rule; 80% of the viewing public have 20% of the brains.
Star Trek transporters are just 3d printers.
Ah, the true Scotsman and all that. I do enjoy The Big Bang Theory and I dislike Mr. Robot. Also, I only liked Star Trek when I was a little kid. Ditto for Dr. Who.
Oh, that's simple, your polarity is wrong,, that's all.
Star Trek transporters are just 3d printers.
I've always considered the show to be "blackface" for nerds.
The show has evolved over the years. While it used to be a compare and contrast of geeks versus normal people, it's now a show about relationships.
Leonard and Penny's benchmark "normal, but nerdy" relationship compared to Howard and Bernadette's cuckolding relationship, compared to Amy's needs with Sheldon, and finally to Raj's struggle to find a keep a girlfriend.
It used to be geeks v. world. Now it's geeks v. geeks. It's why Raj talks to women now, and why we rarely see them interact with "normies" except to setup a problem that each couple treats differently -- or that the boys treat differently than the vastly-more-normal girls.
[For what it's worth, I never found it be nerd blackface. We both laughed at and with them...]
cuckolding? what did I miss?
Star Trek transporters are just 3d printers.
The word should probably be "consciousness."
Table-ized A.I.
Nah, I have just different interests.
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A shot to the head in other words.
Trick yourself into laughing out loud everytime you learn something so you keep on learning forever, you find it becomes easier to learn, you enjoy learning, you eventually become a genius
Crackpots should be locked up. Then again, Chuck Lorre is a crackpot too (or something of similar persuasion, Charlie was right) so we wouldn't have such good humor on TV if they did.
Ok, crackpots should not have access to paper en pencil. Dang, that doesn't cover it either. Man, this is difficult.
Wow, you have no idea what blackface is, do you? It's not just putting on makeup to look like you have a black face, it's then doing 'comedy' that is all about stereotypes about black people.
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I like it quite well, and I have this to say to you whiners, change the channel and watch something else. There are show that I don;t like and I simply change the channel. Its not that hard. And for you "parents" who complain that it is not suitable for you kids, I have this bit of advice, BE a parent and "don't let them watch it", change the channel.
The just because you whine does not make you right, now should you whining effect what I like as we have the same rights, Change the channel when you don't like something, just like it do click, problem solved.
A few things come to mind: 1) Seems to me that 'geeks' have come into favor (relatively) recently (the past bunch of years). And that seems okay to me, since it seems that it is geeks that take society forward - at least technologically. And 'geeks', are people, too! Just like homosexuals. 2) Seems pretty evident to me that society seems to be missing the point on raising the next generations. If we (try to) 'hide' reality from our kids (or over-white-wash it), then we are allowing potential false impressions to foster which could be the fodder for young minds (trying to get a grasp on reality) getting the 'wrong' ideas, and manifesting those ideas in drastic ways (like Columbine, Sandy Hook, etc...). There seems to be a deep rift in what (parents and guiding authorities) allow kids to 'understand'. We need to be sure that real truths are main focuses EVERYWHERE in the media, especially TV. I cannot believe the lies perpetrated on even newscasts! Parents: TALK A LOT with your children! IF you are a parent, make PARENTING a priority. Everybody else: How about a little help?!
Self-importance and self-indulgence is the root of ALL evil.
If you don't have a piece of broken... something... that you've been tinkering with on and off for years, which you could easily replace with a raspberry pi and some custom software/hardware, you probably aren't a geek either.
Not all of us can read x86 assembly code in hex, but a lot of people can. Some of us can even read M68k asm in hex, but it's harder.
Those people, at least, are geeks.
The last time I heard of a "chicken eating geek" was in an Alice Cooper song... lol.
Hacking is a lifestyle, it has some things to do with code, but it's mostly problem solving.
Windows is a tool, just like most things; if you're using them right.
But a geek would know that.
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Windows is a tool. Correct. But it is like a screwdriver that blows up if you turn it wrong.
Non impediti ratione cogitationus.
Those complaints are pretty much ridiculous. Who cares if you don't like the show and/or are offended by mildly offensive humor? Get over it. Just quit watching if you don't like it. Simple as that.
Maybe he mistook cuckolding for henpecking?
There is no laugh track used in this show. It is done before a live audience...if you don't find it funny...that is fine. If you do, your ability to laugh at your own geekdom is a healthy sign.
Oh no! My son could see a fully covered nipple!! Are there really that many people who are so stuffed up? Their moral beliefs are one thing to shake one's head over, but they do not even get comedy. At least now I do not feel bad sending a complaint to the FCC each year for showing excessive violence and public sex when the Super Bowl airs.Ramming each other down head first and cheerleaders in skimpy dresses is OK, but TBBT is profane? Man, are really that many people in the US that ridiculously stupid?