If you're fantasizing about leaving bricks in the road and building fortifications against speeders you may have lost sight of the goal of speed limits...safety.
One trick they use on freeway off-ramps here is what looks like thick stripes of paint. I'm not sure if there's anything else in the mix but they are thick enough (probably about 3 or 4mm) that if you go over them at speed it causes your car to shudder, forcing you to slow down.
Point is that advertisers and retailers find this information very valuable... They do this so that they can accost us with directed advertising.
How exactly does this accosting happen? I listen to commercial free radio, record all my TV shows so I can FF through any ads, and have Ad blockers to prevent ads on the web.
Even if they knew my precise movements every day, they have no way in.
who says the tribesman is the one doing the navigating? He's just the intended recipient of the cargo in this scenario. He has no particular need to be aware of the methods used by a truck driver to find him.
Er, depending on what type of tribe we're talking about here, the tribesman doesn't hang around in one spot. And he doesn't hang around paved roads...
I like the idea, but in a different way. There already exist LCD plate covers that when switched on, causes the cover to go white, obscuring your plate from the rest of the world. Quite useful for evading speed cameras and the like, but not sure the Police would accept any excuses if you got caught using one.
The database/lookup table is supposed to be small enough that it can be embedded instead of being a network-service. However, the conversation I was thinking of at the shipping depot is like so:
"Take this truckload of vaccines and these two med workers to the San tribe."
"Where are they hanging out this week?"
"let's see... latest aerial scans show activity around this spring at alpha beta gamma"
"Cool, we'll head out in 20."
Any local will know where the spring is so this system is useless. It also relies on "aerial scans" whatever the hell they are.
If they have awards for stupidest idea ever, then this needs a nomination.
probably not, but being able to easily express which watering hole they're camped next to this week may be useful for the guy hauling ebola vaccine doses.
So this guy, a nomaditc tribesman used to subsisting on ants and cockroaches, now has to carry an iPhone on him to let his witch doctor know where he is?
This has to be the stupidest idea i've heard all year.
So it's introdcuing yet another system, which isn't a solution.
It would be much easier for poor people to construct a street sign and paint some numbers on their dwellings...
How much brain space does it take to know where all 57 trillion 3m2 locations are?
The current system may not be perfect, but it works quite well for people without the need for a database lookup.
It also makes it impossible to validate a unique address since the 3 words don't correspond to a legal boundary (ie my property address is legally mine). Stupid idea with so many holes it's not funny.
The obvious problem is getting everyone to use it, as they say in their video it would need to be added to services such google maps and integrated into GPS apps. Places like Africa, India, SE Asia, even outback communities here in Oz would benefit greatly.
This system is too stupid to even argue. Physical addresses need to benefit humans as well as machines, but this doesn't seem to address the first requirement in any way.
1. Most people without street addresses don't actually live near a post office.
But they live near a bank? What place is this exactly?
More importantly, FedEx and UPS can't deliver to PO boxes
But they can deliver to this new weirdo system which no-one knows of? Unlike a street name, which most people in a town know the names of, how does a UPS/Fedex driver know where each 3 word place is in the universe?
Statistics and tests have already proven that there are less number of accidents with automated cars.
Statisitcs and tests from controlled tests which are completely unrelated to an uncontrolled environemnt that is a public road.
The key thing you are missing is that the software is not getting distracted while texting, is not going to be drunken driving and is not going to get into a drag race with others on the road. Its 100% focus is on avoiding collisions while getting you where you want to go.
The key thing you seem to be missing is that I have an interest in getting places quickly, and can do that now without the need to purchase the product you are selling.
Really, the robot car crowd is starting to sound an awful lot like the TSA. Perception of safety, at any cost!
A London Underground railway line, in its 12ft diameter tunnel, even with its stops, can shift more people per hour than a three-lane highway, both at max capacity.
This seems to be the crux of the issue. Robot cars are an American thing, becasue for some reason American can't see past the car as a mode of transport.
Real world numbers (not from TFA) are a peak of 2000 vehicles per hour per lane of freeway compared to 75000 per hour for rail. It's a no brainer.
Any sufficiently large and dense city would be far better of with a metro rail system like London, Paris, Hong Kong, Singapore or Tokyo.
Cars spaced 1 meter apart rather than 30 meters apart, may have less cushioning, but the capacity of the road will be 5 times higher.
Only in some mythical universe where EVERY SINGLE VEHICLE is a robot.
And as mentioned in the TFA, even in that dreamworld scenario it still doesn't match the same capacity as rail.
Believe it or not, the engineers designing these things have actually thought about these issues, and done extensive testing. If 1 meter spacing wasn't safe, they wouldn't be doing it.
What about if the thing you throw on the road is a piece of polysterene. A human driver drives through it and carries on as usual, while the robot has to stop and causes gridlock.
I've never seen an example of AI working well in an uncontrolled environment. If you have one please post, otherwise it all sounds like you're selling a dream.
Comparing self-driving cars to trains is idiotic. I can't take the train to the grocery store.
I can, as can millions of others. If something seems idiotic, usually it's because you haven't grapsed the full scope of the issue.
A stream of self-driving cars may have half the bandwidth of a passing train, but not if you consider the gaps between trains, which are usually far more than the length of the train. A mile of passenger rail costs about $100M. A lane of asphalt costs about $1M per mile.
And what does a mile of cars cost?
The most efficient rail system can transport 75000 people per hour per line, and it returns a net profit to its owners. Please show me an example of a road that comes even close to that?
They were clearly trained by the forensics investigators from cop shows, who can also enlarge any photograph by a factor of 1000 with perfect detail.
Blade Runner was one of the first to try this on. The old infintie zoom trick. and people still rate this is as one of the best movies ever.
I just watched it again last night, I think why people like it is although it's set in a SF universe, the story is really just a 1930's detective tale, with a dark ending. Other than, that the SF in it is pretty mediocre.
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My bad, I should've specified units.
75000 people per train, vs 2000 cars which average 1 person per car (rounded).
If you're fantasizing about leaving bricks in the road and building fortifications against speeders you may have lost sight of the goal of speed limits...safety.
That may be your goal. Mine is different.
One trick they use on freeway off-ramps here is what looks like thick stripes of paint. I'm not sure if there's anything else in the mix but they are thick enough (probably about 3 or 4mm) that if you go over them at speed it causes your car to shudder, forcing you to slow down.
Point is that advertisers and retailers find this information very valuable... They do this so that they can accost us with directed advertising.
How exactly does this accosting happen? I listen to commercial free radio, record all my TV shows so I can FF through any ads, and have Ad blockers to prevent ads on the web.
Even if they knew my precise movements every day, they have no way in.
who says the tribesman is the one doing the navigating? He's just the intended recipient of the cargo in this scenario. He has no particular need to be aware of the methods used by a truck driver to find him.
Er, depending on what type of tribe we're talking about here, the tribesman doesn't hang around in one spot. And he doesn't hang around paved roads...
Russell Crowe playing a Spaniard/Roman with a posh English accent in Galdiator turned that film into a comedy for me.
I like the idea, but in a different way. There already exist LCD plate covers that when switched on, causes the cover to go white, obscuring your plate from the rest of the world. Quite useful for evading speed cameras and the like, but not sure the Police would accept any excuses if you got caught using one.
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So just add the address? Why bother with their stupid idea at all?
The database/lookup table is supposed to be small enough that it can be embedded instead of being a network-service. However, the conversation I was thinking of at the shipping depot is like so: "Take this truckload of vaccines and these two med workers to the San tribe." "Where are they hanging out this week?" "let's see... latest aerial scans show activity around this spring at alpha beta gamma" "Cool, we'll head out in 20."
Any local will know where the spring is so this system is useless. It also relies on "aerial scans" whatever the hell they are.
If they have awards for stupidest idea ever, then this needs a nomination.
probably not, but being able to easily express which watering hole they're camped next to this week may be useful for the guy hauling ebola vaccine doses.
So this guy, a nomaditc tribesman used to subsisting on ants and cockroaches, now has to carry an iPhone on him to let his witch doctor know where he is?
This has to be the stupidest idea i've heard all year.
So it's introdcuing yet another system, which isn't a solution.
It would be much easier for poor people to construct a street sign and paint some numbers on their dwellings...
How much brain space does it take to know where all 57 trillion 3m2 locations are?
The current system may not be perfect, but it works quite well for people without the need for a database lookup.
It also makes it impossible to validate a unique address since the 3 words don't correspond to a legal boundary (ie my property address is legally mine). Stupid idea with so many holes it's not funny.
The obvious problem is getting everyone to use it, as they say in their video it would need to be added to services such google maps and integrated into GPS apps. Places like Africa, India, SE Asia, even outback communities here in Oz would benefit greatly.
This system is too stupid to even argue. Physical addresses need to benefit humans as well as machines, but this doesn't seem to address the first requirement in any way.
1. Most people without street addresses don't actually live near a post office.
But they live near a bank? What place is this exactly?
More importantly, FedEx and UPS can't deliver to PO boxes
But they can deliver to this new weirdo system which no-one knows of? Unlike a street name, which most people in a town know the names of, how does a UPS/Fedex driver know where each 3 word place is in the universe?
There was a corner store near here who placed hot check writers' names up on a wall of shame.
You still use checks? Is it 1980 where you live?
And the IRA...
Statistics and tests have already proven that there are less number of accidents with automated cars.
Statisitcs and tests from controlled tests which are completely unrelated to an uncontrolled environemnt that is a public road.
The key thing you are missing is that the software is not getting distracted while texting, is not going to be drunken driving and is not going to get into a drag race with others on the road. Its 100% focus is on avoiding collisions while getting you where you want to go.
The key thing you seem to be missing is that I have an interest in getting places quickly, and can do that now without the need to purchase the product you are selling.
Really, the robot car crowd is starting to sound an awful lot like the TSA. Perception of safety, at any cost!
A London Underground railway line, in its 12ft diameter tunnel, even with its stops, can shift more people per hour than a three-lane highway, both at max capacity.
This seems to be the crux of the issue. Robot cars are an American thing, becasue for some reason American can't see past the car as a mode of transport.
Real world numbers (not from TFA) are a peak of 2000 vehicles per hour per lane of freeway compared to 75000 per hour for rail. It's a no brainer.
Any sufficiently large and dense city would be far better of with a metro rail system like London, Paris, Hong Kong, Singapore or Tokyo.
Cars spaced 1 meter apart rather than 30 meters apart, may have less cushioning, but the capacity of the road will be 5 times higher.
Only in some mythical universe where EVERY SINGLE VEHICLE is a robot.
And as mentioned in the TFA, even in that dreamworld scenario it still doesn't match the same capacity as rail.
Says the AC with no citation....
Believe it or not, the engineers designing these things have actually thought about these issues, and done extensive testing. If 1 meter spacing wasn't safe, they wouldn't be doing it.
What about if the thing you throw on the road is a piece of polysterene. A human driver drives through it and carries on as usual, while the robot has to stop and causes gridlock.
I've never seen an example of AI working well in an uncontrolled environment. If you have one please post, otherwise it all sounds like you're selling a dream.
Comparing self-driving cars to trains is idiotic. I can't take the train to the grocery store.
I can, as can millions of others. If something seems idiotic, usually it's because you haven't grapsed the full scope of the issue.
A stream of self-driving cars may have half the bandwidth of a passing train, but not if you consider the gaps between trains, which are usually far more than the length of the train. A mile of passenger rail costs about $100M. A lane of asphalt costs about $1M per mile.
And what does a mile of cars cost?
The most efficient rail system can transport 75000 people per hour per line, and it returns a net profit to its owners. Please show me an example of a road that comes even close to that?
They were clearly trained by the forensics investigators from cop shows, who can also enlarge any photograph by a factor of 1000 with perfect detail.
Blade Runner was one of the first to try this on. The old infintie zoom trick. and people still rate this is as one of the best movies ever.
I just watched it again last night, I think why people like it is although it's set in a SF universe, the story is really just a 1930's detective tale, with a dark ending. Other than, that the SF in it is pretty mediocre.
My gripe is in EVERY scifi movie/tv show, EVERYbody speaks English..
Not just English, but a lame attempt at a 20th century British upperclass accent. At least Alec Guiness was English, what is everyone else's excuse?