If you were to phrase it today, the second amendment should read, "A well equipped Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to possess weaponry, shall not be limited in any way."
Not likely. If the second amendment was tabled today it wouldn't get passed. There's a reason it's called progress, becasue as time goes find better ways to approach the same problems
And, since past history has shown what happens to people who register their firearms,
Does it? Where exactly? We have to register our firearms and we have a higher standard of living than you. So history shows our policy to gun ownership is better than yours.
Perhaps you should be less worried about what might happen in the 18th century, and pay more attention to the 21st century you live in?
Americans seem have some Amish complex where they think the peak of humanity was reached sometime around 1850...
How many of them are rights specifically called out in the constitution?
I find it funny that you treat this piece of paper as some unquestionable truth that must be obeyed. That is pretty much how religions work.
As a thinking human, I like to think that human values and rights can be discussed and questioned at any place or time, not only in one specific window of time around the end of the 18th century.
PS: For what it is worth, I'll scream for the govt staying out of both my life and yours.
Until someone bigger and uglier comes along and fucks your shit up, then you''ll complain like a bitch that they're not doing enough to look after you...
the government has absolutely NO reason to know how many or what weapons I have. I"m law abiding, not committing crimes with them, and therefore they have no need to know.
Same should apply to cars too right? Do you have a license?
I'm not worried about a low level of fear...I very seldom think about it.
But people DO break into houses, I'm guessing they do where you live too. They often carry weapons...at least a knife or club or whatever.
I live in a large city and sleep with my front door open to the street. I have no weapons and never needed them.
I never lock my door even when I go out, same applies to my car.
Sure someone somewhere is commiting crime around here, but becasue I don't watch much news perhaps I'm not living the same level of fear that you are.
BTC is pretty much the same. Instead of the authority being an established governemnt it is a bunch nof nerds who think they are saving the world. Still the same concept.
It's all a huge pain in the ass. A real pain in the ass. I can't wait for a single universal internet currency you can use everywhere and we can rid of bank fees, foreign exchange transaction fees, and other bullcrap. It's getting better but very far from ideal.
The problem with your dream is that it can't exist. Any sufficiently unregulated thing will be stolen from you by someone more badass than yourself, and anything regulated with come with inconvenience and cost.
Both come with overheads, but what we have now is about as good as anyone should expect.
You know, there are actually people - and governments - that have wanted to kill us since before the nation existed.
I do. Do you know that there are actually people - and governments - that didn't want to kill us until we started fucking with their shit?
Don't think I'm a pacifist, I come from a long line of military who have served in most of the major wars. The point is, not all defence measures require brawn. Sometimes brains can work too.
There has been no parallel example of this in history, except maybe Hiroshima or Nagasaki.
There was at least one engagement where a convoy of armed merchantmen...
We're talking several orders of magnitude more energy. A regular ballistic shell hitting the water results in not much more than a splash. The Rod of God is the equavilent of a tactical nuke. Even if you miss the ship completely, the impact on the water will be enough to sink it.
Also remember there is nothing limiting you to dropping just one of these at a time.
But the point was, it is not for the Government to do — unlike weapons.
And my point, is that countries that offer the best medical services are run by their governments. And the one country that has the most free market approach to healthcare does not do it as well. So your claim is bunk.
You might have me confused with someone else. My one post on this subject is to question your claim that healthcare should be handled by the free market, when this has clearly shown to not work very well.
You'll probably need a minimum of 50 to 75 missiles to get a ship for each Burke defending the Zum. It starts getting really expensive.
Not $4.4B though right? Because if I was Chinese, I'd be allocating an equal budget to counter measures (ie a 1000 missile simultaneous strike capability).
Because I reckon you can build missiles a lot faster than you can build ships, so you simply play the attrition game until you win.
So they launch $2.5 billion of missiles to destroy one $4.4 billion ship?
Only if they paid US retail prices for their missiles. I'm imagining the Chinese can build an anti-ship missile for under $1M, especially a low-tech version that will be used by the thousand.
So yeah spending $1B to take down a $4B asset is a no-brainer, especially since you only have to take down 2 or 3 to change the course of any theoretical war.
The U.S. Navy has a ship-killing problem. The service has, over the past 25 years, neglected the basic mission to sink and destroy enemy ships.
Is that really a problem? I mean If I was to list all the problems I think need solutions for, then the ability sink someone else's ship comes quite low on the list.
The outrage is that even a penny of tax-monies is spent on healthcare — which is decidedly not in the Constitution, and is best handled by the free markets.
Derp, derp. The free market approach to universal health care is a well proven failure, and everyone except you seems to know that.
The government got a ship for 4.4 billion and we are supposed to be glad? It will never be used. It is a showpiece. It is a boondoggle. War is a racket.
On the contrary, that ship will almost certainly see several wars. The odds it will go its entire service life without firing a shot in anger are basically zero.
Well it will now, because we'll find a reason to justify it.
Had it not been built, that prediction might be different.
Second, have you ever stopped to consider the number of people versus the number of "businesses"? I think Apple knows EXACTLY what it is doing.
Yes, Have you considered how many people work for a business of some kind? And how often a business replaces their device compared to an individual?
Using my own case as an example, I still use the laptop at home I bought in 2008. In those 7 years I've had 5 different laptops from work.
Unarmed civilians tend to be the easiest and favorite targets for both sides in any war. Translation: You are willingly making yourself an easy target, and the bad guys will take notice.
Citation?
I just did a quick check and the first example doesn't stand up to your claim (Vietnam, 700k military deaths, 500k civilian)
But that isn't the point. The point is that having a weapon does not prevent violence, since people still choose to fight wars even though the other guy is armed.
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If you were to phrase it today, the second amendment should read, "A well equipped Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to possess weaponry, shall not be limited in any way."
Not likely. If the second amendment was tabled today it wouldn't get passed. There's a reason it's called progress, becasue as time goes find better ways to approach the same problems
And, since past history has shown what happens to people who register their firearms,
Does it? Where exactly? We have to register our firearms and we have a higher standard of living than you. So history shows our policy to gun ownership is better than yours.
Perhaps you should be less worried about what might happen in the 18th century, and pay more attention to the 21st century you live in? Americans seem have some Amish complex where they think the peak of humanity was reached sometime around 1850...
How many of them are rights specifically called out in the constitution?
I find it funny that you treat this piece of paper as some unquestionable truth that must be obeyed. That is pretty much how religions work.
As a thinking human, I like to think that human values and rights can be discussed and questioned at any place or time, not only in one specific window of time around the end of the 18th century.
PS: For what it is worth, I'll scream for the govt staying out of both my life and yours.
Until someone bigger and uglier comes along and fucks your shit up, then you''ll complain like a bitch that they're not doing enough to look after you...
the government has absolutely NO reason to know how many or what weapons I have. I"m law abiding, not committing crimes with them, and therefore they have no need to know.
Same should apply to cars too right? Do you have a license?
I'm not worried about a low level of fear...I very seldom think about it.
But people DO break into houses, I'm guessing they do where you live too. They often carry weapons...at least a knife or club or whatever.
I live in a large city and sleep with my front door open to the street. I have no weapons and never needed them.
I never lock my door even when I go out, same applies to my car.
Sure someone somewhere is commiting crime around here, but becasue I don't watch much news perhaps I'm not living the same level of fear that you are.
Bitcoin is pretty much the opposite-
BTC is pretty much the same. Instead of the authority being an established governemnt it is a bunch nof nerds who think they are saving the world. Still the same concept.
Merchants never see or touch a bitcoin despite the buyer making payment using bitcoin.
For a fee. So why bother?
Bitcoin is already significant. Wishful thinking won't change that.
My daughter says the same thing about Justin Bieber...
It's all a huge pain in the ass. A real pain in the ass. I can't wait for a single universal internet currency you can use everywhere and we can rid of bank fees, foreign exchange transaction fees, and other bullcrap. It's getting better but very far from ideal.
The problem with your dream is that it can't exist. Any sufficiently unregulated thing will be stolen from you by someone more badass than yourself, and anything regulated with come with inconvenience and cost.
Both come with overheads, but what we have now is about as good as anyone should expect.
You know, there are actually people - and governments - that have wanted to kill us since before the nation existed.
I do. Do you know that there are actually people - and governments - that didn't want to kill us until we started fucking with their shit?
Don't think I'm a pacifist, I come from a long line of military who have served in most of the major wars. The point is, not all defence measures require brawn. Sometimes brains can work too.
Nope.
There is history to back me up on this.
There has been no parallel example of this in history, except maybe Hiroshima or Nagasaki.
There was at least one engagement where a convoy of armed merchantmen...
We're talking several orders of magnitude more energy. A regular ballistic shell hitting the water results in not much more than a splash. The Rod of God is the equavilent of a tactical nuke. Even if you miss the ship completely, the impact on the water will be enough to sink it.
Also remember there is nothing limiting you to dropping just one of these at a time.
Anyone can give it out "for free"...after a better, more dynamic economy invents it for them.
Er you didn't invent healthcare, but I you may have invented a new level of arrogance...
You have a static, loot the fruit someone else grew while punching your own farmers in the balls worldview.
This makes no sense.
But the point was, it is not for the Government to do — unlike weapons.
And my point, is that countries that offer the best medical services are run by their governments. And the one country that has the most free market approach to healthcare does not do it as well. So your claim is bunk.
You might have me confused with someone else. My one post on this subject is to question your claim that healthcare should be handled by the free market, when this has clearly shown to not work very well.
You'll probably need a minimum of 50 to 75 missiles to get a ship for each Burke defending the Zum. It starts getting really expensive.
Not $4.4B though right? Because if I was Chinese, I'd be allocating an equal budget to counter measures (ie a 1000 missile simultaneous strike capability). Because I reckon you can build missiles a lot faster than you can build ships, so you simply play the attrition game until you win.
Also depending on what part of the ship the rod hit it might just put a small hole in the decks and hull.
These things are 8000kg traveling at 3.5 km per second. It will be more than a small hole.
So they launch $2.5 billion of missiles to destroy one $4.4 billion ship?
Only if they paid US retail prices for their missiles. I'm imagining the Chinese can build an anti-ship missile for under $1M, especially a low-tech version that will be used by the thousand.
So yeah spending $1B to take down a $4B asset is a no-brainer, especially since you only have to take down 2 or 3 to change the course of any theoretical war.
I don't think you understand how a swarm works. Hint: You have more swarm members than the other guy has bullets.
The U.S. Navy has a ship-killing problem. The service has, over the past 25 years, neglected the basic mission to sink and destroy enemy ships.
Is that really a problem? I mean If I was to list all the problems I think need solutions for, then the ability sink someone else's ship comes quite low on the list.
The outrage is that even a penny of tax-monies is spent on healthcare — which is decidedly not in the Constitution, and is best handled by the free markets.
Derp, derp. The free market approach to universal health care is a well proven failure, and everyone except you seems to know that.
On the contrary, that ship will almost certainly see several wars. The odds it will go its entire service life without firing a shot in anger are basically zero.
Well it will now, because we'll find a reason to justify it.
Had it not been built, that prediction might be different.
The context is mass shooting, of which war is one example.
Just saying it's moot because it doesn't suit your argument is lame.
Second, have you ever stopped to consider the number of people versus the number of "businesses"? I think Apple knows EXACTLY what it is doing.
Yes, Have you considered how many people work for a business of some kind? And how often a business replaces their device compared to an individual?
Using my own case as an example, I still use the laptop at home I bought in 2008. In those 7 years I've had 5 different laptops from work.
Unarmed civilians tend to be the easiest and favorite targets for both sides in any war. Translation: You are willingly making yourself an easy target, and the bad guys will take notice.
Citation? I just did a quick check and the first example doesn't stand up to your claim (Vietnam, 700k military deaths, 500k civilian)
But that isn't the point. The point is that having a weapon does not prevent violence, since people still choose to fight wars even though the other guy is armed.