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Hillary Clinton Urges Silicon Valley To 'Disrupt' ISIS
HughPickens.com writes: The NYT reports that Hillary Clinton spoke at the Brookings Institution's annual Saban Forum on Sunday and said that the Islamic State had become "the most effective recruiter in the world" and that the only solution is to engage American technology companies in blocking or taking down militants' websites, videos and encrypted communications. "We need to put the great disrupters at work at disrupting ISIS. We need Silicon Valley not to view government as its adversary. We need to challenge our best minds in the private sector and work with our best minds in the public sector to develop solutions that would both keep us safe and protect our privacy," said Clinton. "We should take the concerns of law enforcement and counterterrorism professionals seriously. They have warned that impenetrable encryption may prevent them from accessing terrorist communications and preventing a future attack. On the other hand we know there are legitimate concerns about government intrusion, network security, and creating new vulnerabilities that bad actors can and would exploit."
Why try to be cute? Just say it.
Thirty four characters live here.
bottom line: i'm done with her. she lies and lies even more to cover up those lies. thought she had a chance. no more.
Maybe y'all should stop bombing civilians over there. It doesn't take much to "radicalize" somebody whose family was killed by American bombs.
Ms Clinton, in her not so infinite wisdom, feels that attacking the adversary is the only countermeasure to take?
I mean. Sometimes, I wonder if she has the capacity to hold up a mirror and to look at herself. Islam and the Koran is a rather warfare and combat oriented religion. So her belief is that you attack them before they attack you?
Sounds a lot like paranoia to me.
There's a movie, it's called Memento which documents just how wonderful a path her flawed logic will take us.
God help us all should that moron get into office.
But when compared against Trump. It's like what options are we left with.
Idiots to the left. Idiots to the right. And no one supporting America's true interest in sight.
Sounds like we need a real leader for a change. Not some stuffy nincompoop who thinks fear is the only tactic to motivate a nation.
Where's JFK's ghost when we need him the most?
Fine. Give ISIS Windows 10 free of charge. Job done. :-)
(I'm not sure about the Geneva Convention implications of this however.)
Surely we can't trust someone who directly profited from the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act, basically wrecking our economy.
Just say no to Billary...
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Obama (and Hillary when she was Secretary of State) has been burying his head in the sand. Benghazi lives in California now.
for a convert or deeply devout follower of Islam with a grievance against their home country to take out innocents I don't think installing back-doors is going to work. You need to fight ideology with ideology, not weapons. Prove the Quran wrong and do it step by step.
America completely withdraws from the Middle East.
That should put an end to the blowback. Though the US has been creating a mess over there for well over 20 years.
"Disrupt" is a dirty codeword for the business practice of "flooding the market with poor quality, unregulated alternative technologies". The analog here is for silicon valley to start forming lots of bumbling half-witted terrorist organizations and then try to hire everyone that would have gone to work with ISIS.
That way all the manpower will be thrown into ineffective terrorism. Disruption complete.
There may be some moral issues in this design however.
Every time a tech company comes out with a new product, the marketing droids refer to it as (yet another) "disruptive technology".
The Internet is a disruptive technology. You could argue the World Wide Web is either part of that same disruptive tech, or you could probably say it is disruptive in its own right. But all the new stuff being built on top of one or both of those things isn't "disruptive" - it's just taking advantage of the disruption that's already well underway.
However back to the matter at hand... Hillary is just once again repeating the mantra "give us back doors in encrypted communications" - she's just trying to phrase it differently. But since I imagine she's aware the tech companies generally employ people who are much smarter than she is, it's apparent the message isn't really for them - it's for the American public at large.
#DeleteChrome
Silicon Valley has the smart people.
If the smart people are your enemy, it's because you're doing something stupid. Or at least evil. Smart people can never abide policies of stupidity.
You could harness that brainpower to create the most effective PR campaigns against ISIS in the history of the world, and instead you're making it your enemy by pretending that an Orwellian surveillance state is a good thing.
Did she just call for vigilantism? Yeah that always works out for everyone involved.
Her email fiasco already tells us that Hillary Clinton is merely a user of technology, not a developer
And you expect her to know the difference between 'Encryption' and 'Backdoor'??
She's asking how to crack encryption so that only "good guys" can listen in on conversations; she's making it sound like a technical problem when it is a political decision.
"On the other hand we know there are legitimate concerns about government intrusion, network security, and creating new vulnerabilities that bad actors can and would exploit."
You can't have one and not have the other!
"We need Silicon Valley not to view government as its adversary."
You can't brute force the private sector into spending money on compliance and weakening their products in the global market (Chinese contractors would LOVE to buy middleware with NSA backdoors!), and be "friends".
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And more generally, the war on "unbreakable encryption" is just such an unbelievably stupid concept. It's an OBVIOUS power grab for intelligence agencies, and it takes nothing more than common sense to see that you can't ban encryption and mandate backdoors for everything. Encryption has been around for thousands of years and, barring spooky quantum computing tech, open source projects, personal projects, and most importantly *products from countries that don't mandate backdoors* will always be widely available to those who seek encrypted communication. If someone really cares about encryption, they'll still be able to find a solution. It's as dumb as spending years in court trying to block The Pirate Bay, and then WHOOPS they just change the extension.
More importantly, the recent terrorist attacks have been planned by UNENCRYPTED communication. We're talking facebook posts and text messaging!!! I mean *come on*, it's such an obvious power grab that won't make us any safer, like the TSA. It makes me sick to see these mouthpieces for power hungry organizations spout this asinine rhetoric and use these attacks to further their own agendas (like 9/11 was used to invade Iraq). It needs to stop, and the media needs to call them out. At least the major tech companies are pushing back against this. Then again, it's expected, they have billions of dollars of market value hinging on it, and risk being forced to be uncompetitive in broad swaths of security sectors due to these idiotic policies.
The whole thing is a can of worms. It's not like only America is going to get backdoors, that's just an unrealistic elitist view. Hackers get backdoors, corporations get backdoors which will inevitably be abused for profit as personnel changes over time, other intelligence agencies get backdoors, other countries will follow suit and get backdoors (China/Russia/you name it... Skype Saudi Arabia edition! Use it or be banned from the market in our country!) This entire line of policy, frankly, leads to shit, and Solicon Valley is right to consider these people their enemies.
Keep on living in a free world while terrorists claw feebly at our liberty.
Dont join in on the bigotry. Thats what they want. They want us to hate them as much as they hate us. They want us to attack them like they attack us. They want all the decisions of the world decided by violence.
Dont give them what they want.
The code of any major OS is so insecure that the NSA should have no problem hacking into them, and figuring out what the terrorists want. Good job Silicon Valley! Way to disrupt!
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
anonymous you traitor tart.
Do they use exclusively Twitter, Facebook, and so on?
Ok Slashdot Nation. Time to stop blasting the government. Take the passion and make a difference to save the world from ISIS, terrorists, and lone wolfs.
All encryption should have a license that says basically the following:
1. I will not use this technology to circumvent law enforcement.
2. If I do, the license ot use is revoked.
3. As a licensor, I agree that there is no mandated government code.
There we go, solved! Works for gun control doesn't it?
(For those that don't "get it", CA outlaws most of the guns used int he latest attack.)
What causes radicalization:
a) speech
b) bombing the crap out of people? / killing them? / propping up a regime that gasses its own people?
Because that is what we're talking about here, are WE free to say things that YOU deem 'radicalizing speech' in YOUR opinion Hilary?
And what she's saying is "spy on your neighbors... are they expressing views that scare you?.... be afraid... call 'Hillary's STASI Snitchline'. As if turning the US into a worse STASI state is a good thing. Why should Tech companies turn STASI, spy on their customers?
The answer to bad speech is good speech, not censorship, mass surveillance, a STASI state that monitors everyone to ensure they're good comrades.
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No. People in uniform get paid for that.
'Kthnxbye.
---- The above post was generated by the Turing Institute. Maybe.
Hillary wants mercenaries so she can't be held accountable for the blowback. Just like King George.
Hill-dog is really showing her age here. What possible profit incentive does Silicon Valley have to concern themselves with ISIS? Selling shit to the military? Sure, but here's the problem with that: Military Defense Contracts are so notoriously corrupt that no small business concerns themselves with anything but SBIR table scraps. The big money goes to mega-corps like the one that fucked up the Obamacare website.
Hill-dog knows this, but her voter demographic thinks Silicon Valley is a magical place where scrawny kids wearing plaid shirts and thick rimmed glasses conjure together miracles using really fast typing speeds and mountain dew. Like everything she does, this is a calculated attempt to appear like a leader without saying anything that will expose her to strong criticism. The only time she says something controversial is when she is picking on a minority(gun owners) which she thinks she can score cheap political points by spewing cliche wedge issue talking points.
Her act is so stale it's embarrassing. She isn't "experienced", she's a has-been who has spent her entire career doing ONE magic trick really well. The problem with that stunt is that eventually, if you show a child the same card trick enough times they'll figure out how it's done and realize you don't have magic powers at all.
Go home Hillary! I would love to see Bill Clinton back in the White House, but not enough to give YOU any authority in order to get there. I don't know why Hillary is even campaigning. She should just let Bill do all the talking and then wave to the cameras.
She just asked Silicon Valley to be a better, more practical ISIS to usurp the ISIS business model. She wants Silicon valley to deliver a better tool that more potential ISIS members will want to use to more effectively do what ISIS members do.
She just asked Silicon Valley to destroy America and its allies.
This is what happens when politicians and marketing people collide. But hey the sound bite registered well with Joe Sixpack.
If you want something in Congress, you have to give concessions first. I say the intelligence community should give concessions before anyone helps them. Particularly, bolstering FISC with an agency that has the clearance and authority to investigate cases and programs of intelligence agencies, and the teeth to publicly expose and prosecute certain projects/actions and those who authorized them. Which projects you ask? The agency can refer one to a branch of FISC, who can hold mock trials for constitutionality, with the agency giving their case that it is unconstitutional or unlawful. If FISC is not unanimous that the project or action is lawful and constitutional, then the project is immediately put on hold pending the case being escalated to SCOTUS.
Furthermore, permanent gag orders related to national security letters and orders need to be replaced with ones that quickly expire. The no-fly list and terrorist watchlist need to be purged and reworked, with a vetting process for removal no more difficult than passing a classified information clearance background check. Policy and law should disallow mandated (or even voluntary cooperation a la PRISM) software backdoors. The agency should inspect domestic internet backbones and switching points to ensure the domestic intelligence community is not tapping them physically. Intel swapping to gain domestic data (e.g. Five Eyes) should be made illegal.
Then, and only then, should we give one fuck about what the intelligence community wants.
Corruption is convincing someone that the selfless ideal is the same as their selfish ideal.
Creating a widespread system of censorship is not the right approach:
1) It violates the principles the United States was founded on.
2) Suppressing the free flow of information deprives people of the liberty to make their own informed decisions.
3) When other opinions are squelched, the communication channel becomes a propaganda channel and loses all credibility.
4) This infrastructure will be abused. Now, ISIS. Next, common criminals. Eventually, dissidents.
Government, maybe there is a reason for that.
bottom line: i'm done with her. she lies and lies even more to cover up those lies. thought she had a chance. no more.
Curiously, she seems to be polling higher than the lead republican candidate (Trump).
Every time she speaks, she mentions how "there should be a tax deduction for $x", where $x is tailored to the audience. There should be a deduction for college tuition, a deduction for caring for elderly parents, an individual deduction for health care costs, and so on.
It would appear she's "buying" votes with tax incentives.
Of course, these are just campaign promises, and she's going to pay for it by raising taxes on the rich. Go figure.
Hands off my IS-IS routing table!
but she is not unique. It is a matter of logical necessity that *all* politicians lie.
First off, the job is most attractive to sociopaths, so liars are already over-represented in the group of candidates.
Second, the liars have an advantage over the honest candidates (the precious few) when campaigning, since the liars can promise that which they know to be impossible, or that which they have no intention of delivering. The liars can also produce stronger attack-ads to discredit their rivals, and can brazenly deny the ones produced against them even if they are true. Also, the liars have no problems forming alliances with special-interest groups who's interests run counter to the voter's agenda, and receiving more financial backing than the honest ones can. So, in general, the liars win.
Third, once in office, the only means of furthering a political agenda is to cooperate with other politicians and special interest groups. The system is designed to make it impossible to operate alone. So, those who are willing to compromise on their principles will have far more political allies. Those who are willing to lie as easily as breathe will have the most political allies, and will absolutely crush any politician that does not do the same.
So, eventually, the honest ones get shut down and shut out, leaving only the liars (and the *best* liars, at that) behind.
They all lie. They always will. Every damn one of them.
His antics were amusing and refreshing, but as I read his views, I sort of expected deeper thinking and it was missing.
This whole "New York Muslims cheered 911" thing, he's clearly confusing this incident:
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=123885&page=1
Yet he can't back down and admit he's wrong, as if his face saving trumps (pun not intended) the real world.
I think people want to elect Bill Clinton, and she's sort of a placeholder. They hope if they vote for Hilary they'll get Bill, but sadly I doubt that's the case. She really thinks she's competent.
I still don't see a decent candidate in the US elections. The rest of them are just grey background color.
God help us all should that moron get into office.
But when compared against Trump. It's like what options are we left with.
Idiots to the left. Idiots to the right. And no one supporting America's true interest in sight.
Don't tell me what he *is*, tell me what he *did*. Tell me what he *said*.
Anyone can case aspersions on a candidate(*).
Here's an example of something Trump actually *did*.
At the first [R] debate everyone was falling over themselves to pledge not to run as an independent... except Trump. He forced the GOP to make a deal with him, and knowing him he probably got something out of the deal.
That's a level of political savvy that we don't normally see in America. If he can bring that expertise to the white house, then we might start getting better trade deals and better laws. He's said he wants to make America great again.
All of Trump's controversial statements have put him front-and-center in the minds of Americans for the last 3 months. He's had more name recognition than all the other candidates put together, including Hillary.
I can name several things Donald has said in the last 3 months, none of which are without merit or irrational.
You may disagree whole heartedly, but you can't claim that any of them is irrational or without merit. Most of the controversy has been puffed up by the media by using sentence fragments taken without context.
In the last three months, what has Hillary said?
(*) I'm a fan of Trump, and would welcome informed debate about the candidates. Unfortunately, most people here can't rub two words together to spark a rational argument. Anyone is welcome to take that as a challenge, if you feel up to it.
print out two photos:
One, of Hillary, and
Two, of the rotting laughing woman in The Shining (original).
Now spend one hour every day looking back and forth at each photo, maybe kiss them each once before making lo*(&&&&DF SHXxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Internet censors you!
Basically Clinton is saying the US should develop the same kinds of tool to censor and disrupt communications that every other corrupt government wants,
Face it America, it's time to stop fucking pretending you assholes stand for freedom and liberty.
What you are is a corrupt, increasingly fascist, and morally bankrupt nation who thinks undermining rights is the way to achieve security.
On behalf of the rest of us, fuck you.
Okay, we wake up, rise up and throw all the rascals out ... then WHAT??
What do we replace them with?
The same ol' shit?
It isn't that I am a cynic, but I've seen enough of the bullshit from inside the beltway to become extremely wary of the politicians
Muchas Gracias, Señor Edward Snowden !
How about we do it more directly and stop buy oil from those Saudis that are funding ISIS/Daash and those oil companies that are buying oil from ISIS/Daash.
Blocking a few web pages isn't going to do anywhere near as much in comparison. They need funds more than they need recruits.
Well... I mean it'd seem we'd be solving a few problems at once
Step1 in defeating them is so easy:
Severely punish everyone buying isis oil.
Assesinate them by cia if req'd.
But somehow, the super power with oil addiction is far too sensitive when it comes to oil interests.
Quit that oil addiction and hit the buyers hard.
Maybe put radioactive tracers in the wells, and close down all refinaries where the trace shows up.
Especially if it is a US owned refinary. Bomb it if you must.
Bram Stolk http://stolk.org/tlctc/
... bullshit from wild honey.
That crap was teleprompted to her by non-techies and it comes out as a null.
She's against encryption but she appreciates that Americans value their privacy???
Which is it?
Also, I'm Silicon Valley-ish in that I'm tech.
Is she green-lighting for me to do some hacking?
"I was just trying to bring down ISIS for Hillary Clinton and stuff."
It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
My she sure thinks highly of Silicon Valley. If those meddling disrupters can find classified mail she scrubbed clean then they must be capable of anything!!!
I agree with those claiming this is a very wrong approach and disrupting the flow of free speech should not be the solution to dealing with ISIS. They'll just find a way around it like criminals usually do while creating a tool for the Government to disrupt us should they choose to abuse it in the future.
... goddam Anonymous turds and get off our lawn.
It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
Considering Silly Valley's support for oppressive regimes, e.g. The Great Firewall of China, they are the wrong people to ask. The only worse whores are the weapons manufacturers.
putting the 'B' in LGBTQ+
...You should have done your goddamn job in the State Department instead of letting this shit get wild. I don't want another big brother in the Silicon Valley making 'oops' all over our internet to cover for your fuck-ups.
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Fk hillary clinton gd terrorist bitch
So? Who cares?
What's the worst that they can do to us? Or to China? Or to Russia? They're a third-string wannabe that is getting all the media hype because FEAR SELLS.
And it is easy for politicians to look tough by calling for more military action against them.
ISIS might "disrupt" her snizz with a snuke!
Left MS Windows for Linux Mint and never looked back!
Vote for Bernie in 2016!
...no one should listen.
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^ Family working there told me over the weekend they were pants-down spanked by a Chinese-based security breach and were getting "idenity-theft" care packages in the form of taxpayer dollars to pay for any fallout resulting from it.
We should all consider this a very frightening initiative. From a dollars and cents perspective, why would I want use company resources for spying on my customers and sifting through the inordinate amount of false-positives generated from monitoring/censoring our data.
If I don't bring my company policies in line with government objectives - do I risk being called unpatriotic? How can I build trust with customers, protect shareholder value, and keep the government happy...damned if I do, damned if I don't.
It's an interesting gambit to have the government challenge tech companies rather than just contract them - I'm surprised no one made the idea popular sooner, but hopefully no one buys in more than they already have.
Although, maybe we could simply apply these new censorship technologies equitably and have social media companies remove all hate speech from their feeds. My cousins' posts are essentially calling for an end to all black people, but I don't see anyone calling them terrorists and deleting their posts.
Shouldn't this be a job for that omnipotent NSA everyone in here fears so much? If Hillary Clinton, not some Republican, admits that the private sector has to do this job, I think we're a lot safer from the great spy threat than we thought.
It sounds like a good idea to disrupt the way terrorists communicate to make it harder for them to be on point with each other and their plans, but what would it mean if your group was branded as the terrorist by the government?
Maybe tech industries remain apolitical and simply let people regardless of how they stand communicate freely?
Because otherwise, being able to communicate freely with the use of technology becomes only available only if you're a group that's approved by the government.
I just saw ISIS fire her Benghazi ATGM's at Syrians not 5 minutes ago. Raytheon & Hughes both. She's a Muslim Brotherhood plant.
When that fascist cunt says "we need to put (anyone) to work to (do something)", she's exposing her belief that other people are hers to command. Fuck that noise.
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
If she shuts up, she'll get elected. I cling to the hope that she'll keep spewing this kind of bullshit until even her starry-eyed SJW minions start to realize that she's evil.
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
Related:
http://slashdot.org/submission...
http://slashdot.org/firehose.p...
After Paris Attacks, Proposed French Law Would Block Tor and Forbid Free Wi-Fi
"After the recent Paris terror attacks, the French government is proposing to forbid and block the use of the Tor anonymity network, according to an internal document from the Ministry of Interior seen by French newspaper Le Monde.
That document lays out two proposed pieces of legislation, one around the state of emergency, and the other concerning counter-terrorism.
In the former, the French government is considering to "Forbid free and shared wi-fi connections" during a state of emergency. This comes from a police opinion included in the document: the reason being that it is apparently difficult to track individuals who use public wi-fi networks.
The latter piece of legislation, meanwhile, says the government is considering "to block or forbid communications of the Tor network." The legislation, according to Le Monde, could be presented as early as January 2016."
- http://motherboard.vice.com/re...
You want to 'disrupt' these Sunni extremists that laughingly refer to themselves as the 'islamic state'? Employ Anonymous and hacker groups like them as black-ops contractors to the NSA and CIA. Give them no-strings-attached amnesty, carte blanche to act as they see fit (so long as they accomplish their assigned goals), pay them well (from a black budget, obviously), and disavow any knowledge of their actions, past, present, or future, for purposes of plausible deniability -- while making it abundantly clear that if they get caught, they're on their own.
Before anyone says it: it's not like we or any other country in the modern world doesn't have this page in their playbook and hasn't used it in the past. To believe otherwise about the U.S., while absolutely adorable, is painfully and dangerously naive.
After decades of treating the Internet as the greatest threat to American government, *now* you want our help? Yeah, no.
>"solutions that would both keep us safe and protect our privacy,"
Sorry, that doesn't happen (which has been proven over and over again). You can have safety or privacy/freedom. They pretty much are opposite ends of the spectrum. You can try to have middle ground, but it is a compromise, not obtainment of both.
Hedy Lamarr -- Frequency hopping and spread spectrum
Agnes Meyer Driscoll -- developed the "Communications Machine" or "CM", the standard cypher machine used by the U.S. Navy for a time; she also broke JN-25, the post Perl Harbor Japanese fleet operational code.
Elizebeth Friedman -- sometimes credited as the first female American codebreaker -- broke a Mandarin Chinese code used in the opium trade, as well as a number of codes used by bootleggers in the prohibition era, and went on to design some of the security measuers still in place at the IMF (International Monetary Fund).
Maureen Baginski -- Signals Intelligence Director during the 2011 attacks on the U.S.; worked at the NSA
Mary "Polly" Budenbach -- directed the NSA's "Technical Consultants organization.
Wilma Davis -- mathematician who broke Italian diplomatic codes in the 1930's, Japanese Army code messages in WWII, worked on the Chinese team for a while, and then moved on to "Venoa", a covert group tasked with breaking Soviet messages.
Minnie Kenny -- Directed the National Cryptologic School for the DoD and NSA; if you think the fact of her genetalia is significant (you shouldn't), you will also be surprised that she was black.
Ann Caracristi -- one of the people responsible for applying the (then new) computational technology to signals intelligence within the NSA; established the first laboratory for doing so.
Genevieve Grotjan Feinstein -- worked with the SIS (Signal Intelligence Service) as a cryptanalyst reading Japanese diplomatic messages; make the breakthrough that resulted in the creation of an analog computer to read the Japanese "Purple" code.
Joan Daemen -- Rijndael
Shafi Goldwasser -- zero knowledge proofs used in asymmetric key algorithms ...
That's doing about 5 minutes worth of looking, and omitting about half of what I found.
You can never have safety against lone wolfs unless you run an utopia with mind control drugs. OK, maybe that's why weed was legalized in Colorado.
If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker would destroy civilization.
the proxy war between rich old white men and rich young entrepreneurs.
Oh to be a fly on the wall at K street. I need some popcorn.
"Hey Silicon Valley. Even though you're for-profit technology companies, you should go mess with terrorists because I said so! Even though A) it's not your job, B) it won't make you any money, and C) you're putting your employees' lives at risk, it's still a great idea! For me, I mean. That way I don't have to do any actual work and can still throw you under the bus in case something goes wrong!"
Ahaha; funny one. You should be in comedy.
Requiem for the American Dream
Government seems to be old technology poised for disruption. We could do that. It would give people more control and once that would happen, we wouldn't get into these useless wars that create terrorist organizations in the first place. Maybe a bit of direct democracy would be helpful? We can tally votes in real time. It would be so easy to have a system where someone says something stupid on the floor of congress, in the next minute everyone knows about it and before his ass hits the seat, he is already fired. How do you like that, Hillary?
If programs would be read like poetry, most programmers would be Vogons.
1. Attract would-be followers to some other cult.
2. ???
3. Prophet!
barf
is the Brookings Institution's annual Saban Forum?
Buy an island and build their republic there. In USA you need to discuss with the American people.
FWIW, I think Joan Daemen might object to your classification of him as a famous woman (unless you were going for the minority designation with him as someone from Belgium).
> We need to put the great disruptors at work ...
Phasers might be a better choice.
captcha: ironic
...Disruption is code for "make cheaper through evading regulations", according to Uber's business practice. I'm not sure we need to make cheaper terrorists through less allegiance to Islam.
"...the Islamic State had become "the most effective recruiter in the world"..."
OK, forget the "West" for a moment here, are global ideologies that fucked or should I merely take this statement with a grain of salt coming from a politician running for President hell-bent on using encryption as the reason terrorists "win"?
We've heard "backdoor" brought up so many times recently that other countries must think we hire porn stars as politicians now.
This is easy, do I get anything for it?
Step One: Stop fucking supporting them.
There are good hints that Washington or Langley or Fort Meade or someone else high up in the US is directly or indirectly supporting ISIS. Possibly as a part of some geopolitical games like "let's remove Assad from power and seize his oil" or some such fucked-up shit.
Step Two: Stop fucking supporting their allies.
We know the list - Saudi Arabia, Turkey, various so-called Syrian rebel groups who ally with whoever pays them the most or gave them the most recent blowjob or whatever. Possibly Israeal though that are rumours I'm not sure about. Point is that if if you are fighting them with the one hand, and helping those who help them on the other, you shouldn't be surprised. Turkey is basically backstabbing the anti-ISIS coalition at multiple opportunities, because they don't like the Kurds and have their own plans for the area. Also, Putin is not the first to point out that most of the oil trade ISIS runs despite international embargo is going through Turkey. Saudia Arabia has been such an open supporter of islamic terrorism and jihad philosophy (remember 9/11 and where most of the hijackers were from?) that their oil and strategic alliance with the US is the only reason they've not been invaded long ago.
Step Three: Stop fucking "using the opportunity"
If you want to be serious about fighting ISIS, you need to stop seing them as a good opportunity, a nice pretext, a useful thing to have so you can push through your mass surveilance and pseudo homeland security bullshit.
Step Four: Stop fucking working on the next ISIS
All this messing with other peoples religions and internal politics got us where we are today. Al Qaida came out of the US misguided interaction with the Taliban predecessors in Afghanistan. ISIS is a direct result of the Iraq invasion and Saudi support of Wahabism.
If we bomb ISIS into oblivion but continue to play the same game, we will get the same result, again. And if we extrapolate the trend, the next one will be even more ugly. ISIS is not just a terror state, it's also a mindset, and removing it from the map won't stop it. It's not just in Syria, but over half of Africa as well, for example.
Assorted stuff I do sometimes: Lemuria.org
THIS is why ISIS manage to recruit. You spout BS about being better than everyone else, spout BS about how bad people are by the things they do, THEN YOU GO AND DO IT YOURSELF. *THEN* you call it a good thing to do, because YOU are justified?!?!?!?
When your justifications are so batshit insane, there's absolutely no reason for the insanity of ISIS to look any less sane, and someone who would prefer the ISIS version of the world can feel like they're just as sane as the next man, BY POINTING AT YOU PEOPLE.
why isn't the criminal in jail?
To Disrupt the criminal washington gang which created ISIS and will create their replacement bad guy when they become worn out in the media.
Give them no safe harbor for their secrets, offer them no contracts to secure themselves, and above all, refuse to work for them. If you do work for them, accomplish nothing. Grind these terrorists to a halt for the good of humanity.
"I opened my eyes, and everything went dark again"
Zero, most likely. Because the government be shouting "the system works!" from the goddamn rooftops if they were ever to actually catch someone.
You have a short memory. The reason we are no longer allowed to carry large volumes of liquids onto planes is because they caught the terrorist plot before it could be used and trumpted it from the rooftops...before massively disrupting air travel with several days of security theatre (to drive the point home).
Say what you will about its ethics, but a database of all muslims on US soil, going after their families, and bombing the crap out of ISIS held territory would work. It's all proven 1930s technology.
Hedy Lamarr was awesome in just about any way you can think of.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
Though her contributions to spread spectrum technology are minimal and overrated at best.
Let me get this straight... you think the rightmost leftian is too far right, so you hope the leftmost rightian gets elected instead, so he can sign even more draconian laws?
Gotcha. +5, Delusional.
Hillary, meet Anonymous. No need for two-sided introductions since Anonymous already knows everything about Hillary, esp because of those emails.
Stop going on these goddamn crusades.
Turkey have 150 military advisors training Kurds in Iraq right now, Iraq has demanded they leave.
Kurds = Syrian Kurds + Iraq Kurds.
The kind Turkey doesn't like are the Syrian ones that try to carve out a piece of Turkey as their homeland, the Iraq ones fighting ISIS it helps and of course the Turkmen fighting ISIS it helps too.
Russia is backing Assad, they bomb the Turkmen and pretty much everyone but ISIS, because once ISIS is defeated they will have to pretend to stop the bombing of 'ISIS' (whom they're not really bombing).
Our "intelligence" community missed plain-old, unencrypted, facebook communications in the San Bernardino attack.
Terrorism is simply a convenient excuse to expand government reach into personal communication and data.
SJW
*chug*
Ooh, moderator points! Five more idjits go to Minus One Hell!
Delendae sunt RIAA, MPAA et Windoze
"We need Silicon Valley not to view government as its adversary."
So stop being adversarial. Stop giving us every reason to not trust you. Stop being assholes.
So open Daesh up for unlimited H1B visas and outsource their jobs to India. That'll do them in real quick.
Add to this potential to have a gas pipeline from Persian Gulf (Saudi Arabia) to Europe.
Such a pipeline was impossible because it would have had to go through Syria. Assad's Syrian government was and still is friendly with Russia, and would block such a pipeline. Such a pipeline would end Russia's monopoly on gas exports to Europe at large scale, and ruin their business. BTW, Russians are now in Syria bombing any forces that are opposed to Assad, mostly Western/Turkey backed ones.
Enter ISIS, which is opposed to Assad. They are also Sunni branch of Islam as are Saudi Arabia. If they win, the route is open for the gas pipeline.
This whole mess is simply energy business & the great game on large scale.
--Coder
She really takes 'the big lie' to heart eh
WTF are you talking about?
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
Well, actually, there is, but only if you read German.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
They must be getting access from either a hardline or satellite. In the case of a hardline, cut the line going into countries under ISIS control. If those neighboring countries won't cut the access, cut the access to them as they are obviously ISIS supporters. There must be a point where we can make them go dark. Do the same for all phone service going into those countries. Disable cell towers near the borders.
As for satellite service, can't we turn off the service when over those countries or not allow the traffic to go through?
This seems like a technical issue that should be easily solved.
XYZZY
Somehow I doubt that. The number of people recruited from Europe and North America are somewhere between 100 and 150. Yes, they are getting many more from the Middle East but that's from a combination of factors. One is the recent history of the intervention by the Western nations. Another is that many people join ISIS when they take over an area because it's better than being killed.
I'm pretty sure Silicon Valley has better things to do than pander to ridiculous political shenanigans. They have businesses to run, products to build and ship, customers to keep happy, not go off on a wild goose chase after some irrelevant terrorists from the other side of the world, all in order to further political goals of spying on and controlling the domestic population. Hillary can go suck on an egg.
SJW minions are super inclusive of evil.
How this woman can have any credibility at all is beyond me. She has shown herself over and over again as a pathological liar. Every single post she has held has ended in abject failure. And yet she is the leading Democratic nominee. Absolutely astounding. The only conclusion I can draw is that some people hate Republicans so much that they will vote for literally anyone as long as they run as a Democrat. Is this what our country has come to?
screw safety
No one is safe who still lives anyway and as the "war on terra" has always been a war on DISSENT, it is past time to tell the government to stuff it
I totally disagree with this approach. We shouldn't stifle their message, we should be criticizing it, mocking it, parodying, and generally showing how completely stupid, insane, and dumb-headed their message (and their beliefs) truly are.
And, I'd double-down and say this goes true for anyone spouting out religious (or any other) dogma without clear evidence and facts supporting their position.
No, that cracker and wine you consume as part of the Eucharist isn't the body of Christ, it's just a fucking cracker and wine (catholics).
No, those underwear you are wearing aren't magical and they won't stop bullets, its just underwear (mormons).
No, electrical power isn't a plan from the devil. (amish)
And no, you aren't going to get 72 virgins for dying as a martyr, and there is no evidence of heaven (muslims).
And these aren't even the worst examples of specific beliefs I could list. However, I do understand that not all religion is the same. Some dogmas are worse than others. I'm not afraid of the extremist fundamentalist Jain. And back in the 1930's it would have been the Catholic church's support of fascism that would have had me concerned. But today, instead, it's the mass subscription of certain beliefs within the religion of Islam that has me concerned the most.
1. Join ISIS
2. Become its leader
3. Do a merger w/ al Qaeda (similar to HPQ)
4. Announce massive restructuring/layoffs
5. Jihadi coalition is decimated
6. Resign (since getting fired would mean getting shot, out there)
Don't give this Moron press coverage.
Now that is just funny - in response to a post about how to get information with a link at the end for the lazy you responded with "no citation then".
You could not only be replaced with a bot, it would do a better job! A student project bot would be a failure if it responded to any post containing "http" with "no citation".
As for your ridiculous suggestion with half a million documents, try reading the post and it will tell you how - if that was too complicated there's these things called computers that can search for terms and you are using one right now.
What Hillary's really looking for (besides speeches that sound good) is approaches like censorship, identifying politically incorrect users without the need for warrants, that sort of thing.
(I'm one of those annoying Libertarians, so I can pretend to be neutral between the two big-money parties, which I'll get around to after the Republicans clean up the corruption of the Bush/Cheney/Koch/Norquist/NeoCons/GlobalWarmingDenialism/etc years. But I live in California, where right-wing bigotry against our largest ethnic groups pretty much guarantees a Democratic win, so rather than voting for Kodos\\\\\Hillary, I'll presumably vote for whoever my party comes up with, or if they choke or pick somebody unacceptable, I'll fall back to voting for the Greens or Peace&Freedom.)
Bill Stewart
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Since 1971 OPEC is selling crude oil exclusively in US$, starting the friction between Islamic and Western; It's a lose-lose proposition; You're riding Frankensteinâ(TM)s monster; As a Muslim, President Obama is pretty much aware of it;
http://qz.com/562128/isil-is-a...
Casteism
Ok lets start with vindicating https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik... and https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik...
Casteism
There is not going to be a full proof system. Getting back to my point. Technology companies and folks on Slashdot have been mercilessly beating up on the government and intelligence agencies. It is not helpful and is shrill behavior. Folks need to take that energy and look for ways they can help combat the problem of lone wolfs and terrorist using technologies from the private sectors. How many folks who did mass killings posted on social media before doing these acts? Folks need to stop complaining and work to be part of the solution.
You clearly did not use google since a keyword search turns up large number of pages like this:
http://www.frugal-cafe.com/pub...