But that's not all fanatics have. It's just local flavoring. What their message is is the same as always before: "All your problems are caused by group X. Join me and take your revenge!"
I always wondered where this fascination of virgins comes from. If I want some wiring done I look for an experience electrician, if I need some drains cleared, an experienced plumber. So it follows if I want my dick sucked, I'll find the most experienced woman I can. I'm even happy to pay for it, because good skills and experience are worth paying for. For some reason a lot of people have a problem with this logic which I don't understand why.
To be a good politician you need to be good at politics, not good at Science, or Engineering, or Football. It strikes me as odd that not a lot of people understand this.
And? Stupid people like to throw the word debt around with big numbers as if we should all be scared. Big numbers! Debt! Be afraid!
My mortgage is 4x my annual salary, as is considered in the low risk range. The US national debt is 1x GDP yet this is somehow an issue?
Does anyone seriously think this woman will even survive the mauling of the Republican Primaries? She seems to have far too weak a reputation to make it that far. She will never get the opportunity to debate Hillary.
The summer before the Compaq acquisition, she convinced HP employees to donate their bonuses and vacation days back to the company on a voluntary basis so that there wouldn't need to be a lay off,
And people swallowed this? I never get why people buy into this shit. Did she donate her bonus or salary? I'm guessing no.
Compaq's strength wasn't PC's it was x86 servers. The Proliant was the de facto standard for servers everywhere I worked in the 90's, and afterwards when rebadged HP. Even now 20 years on, they are still the go-to solution for rack servers.
Who said it's many keys? It could be a few keys being activation many times, or it could be known dodgy keys being used over and over again. In any case I 'm pretty sure someone at MS know how volume keys and NAT works.
No because you'd have a volume license key which would make MS would expect numerous activations for. I assuming this is a not that (either a retail or OEM key), which is why MS are suspicious.
What really made the difference was radar plus Dowding's organisational system. Oh, and home advantage.
I've read a little about the war. IMO there were 1000 different things that could've easily changed the result (Chamberlain, Churchill, El Alamein, Tobruk, Enigma, Operation Valkyrie, Manhattan Project, Battle of Britain, Stalingrad... hundreds of others) Attributing something so massive and complex to one or two things seems a little simplistic.
Smells like the "great man" theory of history. Sometimes it's true, i.e. if Winston Churchill hadn't been where he was we'd probably all be speaking German now.
In this case? Nah. If Microsoft hadn't done it, somebody else would - and possibly better.
Why, because you say so? If you think IBM could've done it then you've never had anything to do with IBM ever.
I think the monoculture MS created in the late 80's to early 00's was a net gain for IT in general because the standardisation of Wintel as a PC platform allowed less nerdy types to get involved and help grow the pie. You can hate on all the bad things MS did, but the fact is having a standard platform during it's infancy was good for IT, just like how the Model T jump started the auto industry. We are now entering a post MS era so can lose the hate, and focus on Apple, Google, Facebook, Tesla etc, but the fact remains, any new industry has a critical growth phase, and the likes of MS and Cisco helped make that happen.
Maybe you live in a mythical world where your imagination allows you to create arguments using rare occurrences. I mean if we are going to use exceptions to asses the situation then I don't know what to tell you. BTW, not only school zones require 40km/h zones. There are plenty of residential areas where kids are present in numbers that justify 40km/h as a deterrent for speeding since the fines are high.
It's not creating an argument, it is a single example that you theory of "speed enforcement is science" is bunk. I have plenty more, but you seem to already be aware of this with your comment "kids are present, the speed limit should be 40" comment. So much for the science eh?
Speed laws are mostly emotive and political.
Yes it was but some did believe and push that agenda. Regardless there are other examples like earth being the center of the universe...
So this automatically makes you right somehow? I'm failing to see how this adds any weight to your argument
Yes we're all familiar with the current robot car tech, the gap which you don't seem to be aware of is that there is a LONG, LONG, road between concept and mainstream reality. Even if the Tech was perfect, which it isn't, it will still take another 20 years to get past the legal and political hurdles.
http://www.technologyreview.co...
Neither did I but you can't deny the need for speed limits.
Never did. Speed laws are mostly emotive and political, not science.
Bitcoin stability only needs to be measured in days. All that's needed is enough time to bill someone in currency x and redeem it in currency z. It's primary function is to keep banks and governments out of the transaction.
This is still a problem when you're poor and living hand to mouth. If you earned $10 today and then found out it was only worth $8 two days later when you go buy your groceries you'd be pretty pissed off. I can't see how bitcoin is better in any situation other than illegal trading where losses are accepted as part of laundering.
This used as an aid to set the appropriate speed limit for that road.
That's the key phrase "as an aid". Trust me, I know exactly how the system works. It's 10% science, 90% politics. That's why roads rated 60km/h get zoned to 40km/h because there's a school somewhere nearby. And that 40km/h zone suddenly gets applied outside of school hours too without warning, at 3am at night and on weekends. Yet strangely in wealthy suburbs with lots of lawyers their schools are somehow exempt. I'd love to hear your scientific theory for why that is?
Really? They actually set limits in 2007 due to safety reasons. They are just looking at opening up the limits on highways. They currently are trialing and it appears successful for this perfect highway. All the ingredients are in place for success in this case. Similar to the autobahn but as you can imagine you can't plaster the same logic across all roads. Keep in mind that the autobahn does have speed limits for bad weather conditions. Why do you think?
Just because I disagree with the current speed-kills/speed-enforcement-solves-everything dogma don't automatically assume this means I think everyone should do whatever they like. There's a long way between fascism and anarchy. As I said in my first post, road safety is not as simple as speed bad, slow good.
Earth was supposed to be flat,
That's a well worn myth.
we weren't supposed to go on the moon
Says who?
and flight was never going to become an important method of transportation.
Says who?
Yet here we are and none of those statements are true anymore.
No because no-one of any note made those statements, they are myths perpetuated by people who believe in magic, regardless of it's scientific, engineering, economic or political merit.
Flying cars aren't convenient so its no wonder nobody researched it.
A flying car would be extremely convenient. Plenty of people researched it, but all the smart ones gave up when they realised how impractical it would be, even if physically possible.
As for self driving cars, they are already here.
No they aren't.
There are already plenty of working prototypes and legislation is in the process of being adjusted for the future. Most people just want a means to get to destination so mainstream isn't you and me who love driving. It's the other people that will decide for us.
There's plenty of prototypes for flying cars, jet packs, segways, and other shit that never made it anywhere. Don't believe the hype, there is a long, long road between conceptually possible, and mainstream.
*sigh* - go learn the difference between individuals spending money on healthcare, and the US government spending taxpayer money on same.
Yeah maybe you should do the same. The US govt spends more, US citizens on average are wealthier. At which point can the US "not afford it"?
While you're at it, also look up the bureaucratic overhead that a government-run healthcare system would bring (see also the VA Medical System).
Dude, I've lived in four separate countries with government run healthcare, and all four of them provided better care overall than the US. You seem to confusing your poor implementation of govt run services, with the concept of govt run services that has already be proven elsewhere.
This has a range of about 30km for $600, so 50km for $1000. That is at least getting close to being in the ballpark, and this will only get better.
Also the 200km/$1000 was just a figure out of thin air, it is not a hard requirement. My current vehicle has a 200km range and cost me $5k. I'd be more than happy to pay twice that for an electric version.
Who is they? In my country we use different types of flouride depending on location.
2. Hexafluorosilicic acid is a product manufactured from industrial waste in the aluminum industry and is considered a toxic substance. If industry hadn't conned municipalities in to putting it in the water supply as a "fluoride source" it would cost them a good chunk of change to dispose of the stuff. (Look up ALCOA and fluoride).
Lies. It's only becomes an issue in gas form, which is going to be hard when saturated 1 ppm in water.
3. Consumption of unfiltered tap water, I'd say, is just about zero. I know no-one that drinks
Good thing that science uses techniques other than your personal experience. This research found at least 25% of bottled water contained tap water. How does that fit into your experience now?
4. Even if people were drinking only tap water, over 95% of the water used in an average municipality is very consumed by any living thing. It washes cars, waters lawns, bathes people, flushes toilets, cools industrial equipment, etc.
And?
5. When I had this discussion with my town a few years ago asking them to provide numbers they told my it cost $63,000 a year
You didn't mention how many people in your town. If $63000 save 60 people's teeth from rotting then I'd say it's a net gain. Average cost for fluoridation is $1 per person per year. Trivial when you consider the cost of dental care.
6. No-one, I mean I searched hard, has studied the rate of change in a community pre and post fluoridation of tap water
7. The Grand Rapids "study" was based upon Sodium Fluoride, which again is not what we put in the water today. So even if the result was positive the hexafluorosilicic acid used today has never been studied for prevention of tooth decay in municipal water supplies and is a very different chemical compound just like Carbon Monoxide and Carbon Dioxide are very different chemicals. Search for
So use another study instead, or better, conduct your own.
8. There is no version of any type of fluoride that is indicated by the FDA for the prevention of tooth decay. The municipal water companies are adding an non-FDA approved and unregulated drug to our water supply. The other substance added to water supplies (chlorine to be simple) is approved by the FDA for water and food sanitation.
As you can see, there is simply no supporting truth to the argument that fluoride in municipal water prevents tooth decay. It does cost a significant amount of money, and almost no-one drinks the fluoridated water anyway.
Do your own research. You will come to the same conclusion: municipal water fluoridation is based on lies, it's a waste of money, it doesn't work and it may actually cause harm to public health.
$1 per person is not significant. You probably spent more on your membership fees to the Tinfoil Hat Convention.
What, the stupid guy? We've already had a few of those in this thread already.
You were charged - and quite a bit for it, they just didn't hand you a bill after you received the service. When you factor in all taxes (VAT, fuel tax, TV tax, income tax, NHS tax, etc) even the lowest tax bracket in the UK is paying roughly 50% of their income in taxes.
That's a lie.
The lowest income tax bracket is 0% (under £10,600).
TV License revenue goes directly to TV and radio, not to health services. But even if you include it it's only £150.
Fuel Tax is zero if you don't own a car
NHS Tax, no such thing
VAT is max 20%, but zero for essentials such as food.
So for most people less well off, they have access to free or nearly free health care, completely unlike the US.
Thing is, they can afford it whereas the US cannot. This is largely due to the demographics of these nations, the fact that their defense budgets are largely carried by NATO/Treaty/aid/etc (read: the US is paying for and/or providing a very significant percentage of it, even if indirectly),
Oh Jesus you seriously aren't that fucking stupid are you? The US has the highest spend per capita on health than any other country on the planet. You spend more, you get less. The fact you also spend the most of Defence is irrelevant, although your spend on education is, as you've clearly demonstrated...
. It's amazing to me the number of people who think the government, who can't seem to run anything well, should be running healthcare and dental care.
It's amazing to me that people still trot out shit like this. Anyone that thinks this should go to a place with little or no government and compare the difference.
Even Bill O'Reilly accepts that some services are better off under government management.
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But that's not all fanatics have. It's just local flavoring. What their message is is the same as always before: "All your problems are caused by group X. Join me and take your revenge!"
Sounds like Fox News
I always wondered where this fascination of virgins comes from. If I want some wiring done I look for an experience electrician, if I need some drains cleared, an experienced plumber. So it follows if I want my dick sucked, I'll find the most experienced woman I can. I'm even happy to pay for it, because good skills and experience are worth paying for. For some reason a lot of people have a problem with this logic which I don't understand why.
To be a good politician you need to be good at politics, not good at Science, or Engineering, or Football. It strikes me as odd that not a lot of people understand this.
The country is 18 trillion dollars in debt.
And? Stupid people like to throw the word debt around with big numbers as if we should all be scared. Big numbers! Debt! Be afraid!
My mortgage is 4x my annual salary, as is considered in the low risk range. The US national debt is 1x GDP yet this is somehow an issue?
Does anyone seriously think this woman will even survive the mauling of the Republican Primaries? She seems to have far too weak a reputation to make it that far. She will never get the opportunity to debate Hillary.
The summer before the Compaq acquisition, she convinced HP employees to donate their bonuses and vacation days back to the company on a voluntary basis so that there wouldn't need to be a lay off,
And people swallowed this? I never get why people buy into this shit. Did she donate her bonus or salary? I'm guessing no.
Compaq's strength wasn't PC's it was x86 servers. The Proliant was the de facto standard for servers everywhere I worked in the 90's, and afterwards when rebadged HP. Even now 20 years on, they are still the go-to solution for rack servers.
We surrendered that essential freedom in the hope of some sort of safety... As predicted, we lost both
What? We live in the safest times in human history. The freedom of which you speak is called bigotry, and we're all better off without it.
Who said it's many keys? It could be a few keys being activation many times, or it could be known dodgy keys being used over and over again. In any case I 'm pretty sure someone at MS know how volume keys and NAT works.
No because you'd have a volume license key which would make MS would expect numerous activations for. I assuming this is a not that (either a retail or OEM key), which is why MS are suspicious.
What really made the difference was radar plus Dowding's organisational system. Oh, and home advantage.
I've read a little about the war. IMO there were 1000 different things that could've easily changed the result (Chamberlain, Churchill, El Alamein, Tobruk, Enigma, Operation Valkyrie, Manhattan Project, Battle of Britain, Stalingrad... hundreds of others) Attributing something so massive and complex to one or two things seems a little simplistic.
Smells like the "great man" theory of history. Sometimes it's true, i.e. if Winston Churchill hadn't been where he was we'd probably all be speaking German now.
In this case? Nah. If Microsoft hadn't done it, somebody else would - and possibly better.
Why, because you say so? If you think IBM could've done it then you've never had anything to do with IBM ever.
Why would you think that?
I think the monoculture MS created in the late 80's to early 00's was a net gain for IT in general because the standardisation of Wintel as a PC platform allowed less nerdy types to get involved and help grow the pie. You can hate on all the bad things MS did, but the fact is having a standard platform during it's infancy was good for IT, just like how the Model T jump started the auto industry. We are now entering a post MS era so can lose the hate, and focus on Apple, Google, Facebook, Tesla etc, but the fact remains, any new industry has a critical growth phase, and the likes of MS and Cisco helped make that happen.
You need to improve your communication skills more.
Maybe you live in a mythical world where your imagination allows you to create arguments using rare occurrences. I mean if we are going to use exceptions to asses the situation then I don't know what to tell you. BTW, not only school zones require 40km/h zones. There are plenty of residential areas where kids are present in numbers that justify 40km/h as a deterrent for speeding since the fines are high.
It's not creating an argument, it is a single example that you theory of "speed enforcement is science" is bunk. I have plenty more, but you seem to already be aware of this with your comment "kids are present, the speed limit should be 40" comment. So much for the science eh? Speed laws are mostly emotive and political.
Yes it was but some did believe and push that agenda. Regardless there are other examples like earth being the center of the universe...
So this automatically makes you right somehow? I'm failing to see how this adds any weight to your argument
Re: self driving cars: http://www.bloomberg.com/slide... http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/28/... http://www.usatoday.com/story/...
Yes we're all familiar with the current robot car tech, the gap which you don't seem to be aware of is that there is a LONG, LONG, road between concept and mainstream reality. Even if the Tech was perfect, which it isn't, it will still take another 20 years to get past the legal and political hurdles. http://www.technologyreview.co...
Neither did I but you can't deny the need for speed limits.
Never did. Speed laws are mostly emotive and political, not science.
Bitcoin stability only needs to be measured in days. All that's needed is enough time to bill someone in currency x and redeem it in currency z. It's primary function is to keep banks and governments out of the transaction.
This is still a problem when you're poor and living hand to mouth. If you earned $10 today and then found out it was only worth $8 two days later when you go buy your groceries you'd be pretty pissed off. I can't see how bitcoin is better in any situation other than illegal trading where losses are accepted as part of laundering.
You said:
"Get me a battery with 400 miles of range that can be recharged in 5 minutes and I'm all ears."
Then I said:
"Give me a battery with 200km range that can be charged overnight at my house or work and costs less than than $1000.
Maybe you just don't read so good?
This used as an aid to set the appropriate speed limit for that road.
That's the key phrase "as an aid". Trust me, I know exactly how the system works. It's 10% science, 90% politics. That's why roads rated 60km/h get zoned to 40km/h because there's a school somewhere nearby. And that 40km/h zone suddenly gets applied outside of school hours too without warning, at 3am at night and on weekends. Yet strangely in wealthy suburbs with lots of lawyers their schools are somehow exempt. I'd love to hear your scientific theory for why that is?
Really? They actually set limits in 2007 due to safety reasons. They are just looking at opening up the limits on highways. They currently are trialing and it appears successful for this perfect highway. All the ingredients are in place for success in this case. Similar to the autobahn but as you can imagine you can't plaster the same logic across all roads. Keep in mind that the autobahn does have speed limits for bad weather conditions. Why do you think?
Just because I disagree with the current speed-kills/speed-enforcement-solves-everything dogma don't automatically assume this means I think everyone should do whatever they like. There's a long way between fascism and anarchy. As I said in my first post, road safety is not as simple as speed bad, slow good.
Earth was supposed to be flat,
That's a well worn myth.
we weren't supposed to go on the moon
Says who?
and flight was never going to become an important method of transportation.
Says who?
Yet here we are and none of those statements are true anymore.
No because no-one of any note made those statements, they are myths perpetuated by people who believe in magic, regardless of it's scientific, engineering, economic or political merit.
Flying cars aren't convenient so its no wonder nobody researched it.
A flying car would be extremely convenient. Plenty of people researched it, but all the smart ones gave up when they realised how impractical it would be, even if physically possible.
As for self driving cars, they are already here.
No they aren't.
There are already plenty of working prototypes and legislation is in the process of being adjusted for the future. Most people just want a means to get to destination so mainstream isn't you and me who love driving. It's the other people that will decide for us.
There's plenty of prototypes for flying cars, jet packs, segways, and other shit that never made it anywhere. Don't believe the hype, there is a long, long road between conceptually possible, and mainstream.
*sigh* - go learn the difference between individuals spending money on healthcare, and the US government spending taxpayer money on same.
Yeah maybe you should do the same. The US govt spends more, US citizens on average are wealthier. At which point can the US "not afford it"?
While you're at it, also look up the bureaucratic overhead that a government-run healthcare system would bring (see also the VA Medical System).
Dude, I've lived in four separate countries with government run healthcare, and all four of them provided better care overall than the US. You seem to confusing your poor implementation of govt run services, with the concept of govt run services that has already be proven elsewhere.
This has a range of about 30km for $600, so 50km for $1000. That is at least getting close to being in the ballpark, and this will only get better.
Also the 200km/$1000 was just a figure out of thin air, it is not a hard requirement. My current vehicle has a 200km range and cost me $5k. I'd be more than happy to pay twice that for an electric version.
1. The version of fluoride they put in the water
Who is they? In my country we use different types of flouride depending on location.
2. Hexafluorosilicic acid is a product manufactured from industrial waste in the aluminum industry and is considered a toxic substance. If industry hadn't conned municipalities in to putting it in the water supply as a "fluoride source" it would cost them a good chunk of change to dispose of the stuff. (Look up ALCOA and fluoride).
Lies. It's only becomes an issue in gas form, which is going to be hard when saturated 1 ppm in water.
3. Consumption of unfiltered tap water, I'd say, is just about zero. I know no-one that drinks
Good thing that science uses techniques other than your personal experience. This research found at least 25% of bottled water contained tap water. How does that fit into your experience now?
4. Even if people were drinking only tap water, over 95% of the water used in an average municipality is very consumed by any living thing. It washes cars, waters lawns, bathes people, flushes toilets, cools industrial equipment, etc.
And?
5. When I had this discussion with my town a few years ago asking them to provide numbers they told my it cost $63,000 a year
You didn't mention how many people in your town. If $63000 save 60 people's teeth from rotting then I'd say it's a net gain. Average cost for fluoridation is $1 per person per year. Trivial when you consider the cost of dental care.
6. No-one, I mean I searched hard, has studied the rate of change in a community pre and post fluoridation of tap water
Ask and you shall receive: http://www.health.nsw.gov.au/e...
7. The Grand Rapids "study" was based upon Sodium Fluoride, which again is not what we put in the water today. So even if the result was positive the hexafluorosilicic acid used today has never been studied for prevention of tooth decay in municipal water supplies and is a very different chemical compound just like Carbon Monoxide and Carbon Dioxide are very different chemicals. Search for
So use another study instead, or better, conduct your own.
8. There is no version of any type of fluoride that is indicated by the FDA for the prevention of tooth decay. The municipal water companies are adding an non-FDA approved and unregulated drug to our water supply. The other substance added to water supplies (chlorine to be simple) is approved by the FDA for water and food sanitation.
As you can see, there is simply no supporting truth to the argument that fluoride in municipal water prevents tooth decay. It does cost a significant amount of money, and almost no-one drinks the fluoridated water anyway.
Do your own research. You will come to the same conclusion: municipal water fluoridation is based on lies, it's a waste of money, it doesn't work and it may actually cause harm to public health.
$1 per person is not significant. You probably spent more on your membership fees to the Tinfoil Hat Convention.
I have to be "that guy".
What, the stupid guy? We've already had a few of those in this thread already.
You were charged - and quite a bit for it, they just didn't hand you a bill after you received the service. When you factor in all taxes (VAT, fuel tax, TV tax, income tax, NHS tax, etc) even the lowest tax bracket in the UK is paying roughly 50% of their income in taxes.
That's a lie.
The lowest income tax bracket is 0% (under £10,600).
TV License revenue goes directly to TV and radio, not to health services. But even if you include it it's only £150.
Fuel Tax is zero if you don't own a car
NHS Tax, no such thing
VAT is max 20%, but zero for essentials such as food.
So for most people less well off, they have access to free or nearly free health care, completely unlike the US.
Thing is, they can afford it whereas the US cannot. This is largely due to the demographics of these nations, the fact that their defense budgets are largely carried by NATO/Treaty/aid/etc (read: the US is paying for and/or providing a very significant percentage of it, even if indirectly),
Oh Jesus you seriously aren't that fucking stupid are you? The US has the highest spend per capita on health than any other country on the planet. You spend more, you get less. The fact you also spend the most of Defence is irrelevant, although your spend on education is, as you've clearly demonstrated...
. It's amazing to me the number of people who think the government, who can't seem to run anything well, should be running healthcare and dental care.
It's amazing to me that people still trot out shit like this. Anyone that thinks this should go to a place with little or no government and compare the difference. Even Bill O'Reilly accepts that some services are better off under government management.
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