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Feds Say It's Time To Cut Back On Fluoride In Drinking Water
An anonymous reader writes: Federal health officials Monday changed the recommended amount of fluoride in drinking water for the first time since 1962, cutting by almost half the maximum amount of fluoride that should be added to drinking supplies. The Department of Health and Human Services recommended 0.7 milligrams of fluoride per liter of water instead of the long-standing range of 0.7 to 1.2 milligrams. The change is recommended because now Americans have access to more sources of fluoride, such as toothpaste and mouth rinses, than they did when fluoridation was first introduced in the United States,' Dr. Boris Lushniak, the deputy surgeon general, told reporters during a conference call.
It's finally time we embraced "The Big Book of British Smiles" on this side of the pond!
Europe banned Fluoride in drinking water since at least the 1980's.
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The Illuminati Lizard King has mandated that the fluoride content of chemtrails be increased to .5 milligrams per liter to compensate.
Fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face.
Into a grotesque mutant.
They will probably try to give this a food-safety spin, but recent studies have confirmed that fluoridation of drinking water has no ill effects. What the government is actually aiming at though is (eventually) ending drinking water fluoridation entirely. While fluoride itself isn't expensive, the installations cost about a 100 million dollars a year. In the current political climate it's only logical that the government thinks consumers should pay for fluoridated products themselves. This is unfortunate however, since even in areas where fluoridated toothpaste is common, fluoridated drinking water is still correlated with better dental health.
Conspiratards are already typing off their fingers.
Perhaps the only conspiracy here is ignorance.
There are already quite a few areas in the US that removed fluoride from the water supply. Many are likely not even aware if their local county does or not.
I'm sure we can get a similarly insipid movement started around flouride.
.. about dental health, they limit the amount of Corn Syrup, and HFCS that exists throughout the US food supply!
Sugar is still sugar! It doesn't have to be white and bleached, for it to decay your teeth!
Cue the pseudoscience nutcases who'll cite this as "proof" that fluoridated water is toxic to our chakras or something. Oh, wait, except that it's coming from the federal government, so it must be part of a conspiracy with Big Pharma to... um... increase our dependence on commercial toothpaste?
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We have completely removed it in our drinking water (at least in Southwestern Ontario) for about 3 years now. I only vote Republican (Conservative) now for some reason...
But now my lawn is going to get cavities! It's a conspiracy!
If theres Floride in drinking water wouldn't it have to be listed on the label of the bottle?
And you can buy distilled water in gallons for about the same price as drinking water. 89c or so.
I know there are some people that don't buy bottled water, instead they have a reverse osmosis filter. I think that removes floride and cloride and other salts...
The original theory was that by putting fluoride into drinking water, it'll get into developing teeth, which are chemically altered to be harder. Then they figured out that that doesn't happen; it just reacts directly with teeth in the mouth. But we have fluoride toothpaste that does just as well and doesn't get swallowed quite as much. Then there's the issue of toxicity, which apparently is essentially nil except for people with thyroid problems, where the fluorine can displace iodine.
The conspiracy theorists actually play on the thyroid thing. The idea is that fluoride induces hypothyroidism, which slows people down and makes them more docile, and a docile populace is what governments want, because they rock the boat less. But I think this is a case of opportunism, kinda like how creationists will accept scientific theories whenever they appear to support their delusions. The theory that it was a communist plot predates any hypotheses about thyroid effects. I don't think there's any evidence that fluoride will *induce* thyroid problems.
well THAT'S going to cut into the aluminum industry's profits.
This is making gays, stop fucking with our biology you bloody cunts fucking idiotic cunts
Hmmm, is this tin foil hat getting a little tight or is it me? [passes out]
I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.
"now Americans have access to more sources of fluoride, such as toothpaste and mouth rinses" I am pretty sure we have had these for decades now...
Troll is not a replacement for I disagree.
Conspiratards are already typing off their fingers.
At least they're not going on about attacking the communists over their precious bodily fluids...
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Perhaps they should RAISE the amount in the water since many of us don't use tap water for anything but cooking anymore since we get those reports from the water district all the time about how much POOP is in the water (they call it things like giardia, bacteria, and other stuff, but we all know it is poop).
If you wash your teeth twice a day with a typical toothpaste, then you supply more than enough fluoride.
Which means the fluoride in the drinking water was there only for those who do not wash their teeth, mainly niggers.
How come they care only about stupid niggers, and health of decent white people may be at risk?
Oh on! There taking the fluoride out of our drinking water! It's a government conspiracy to reduce oral hygiene in rural areas. This will help prop up the 1% by increasing the wealth disparity. It will also help kill off the poor by allowing more bacteria to grow in the water. not do mention deaths from oral infections. Those bastards won't stop until were all dead!
I couldn't find a better map, but fluoride can always be found in meaningful amounts naturally in groundwater.
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I don't drink tap water. I don't understand why anyone does (apart from the ridiculous superstition that distilled water leeches valuable nutrients from your body). Distilled water is dirt cheap, abundantly available, tastes better, and is pure.
I don't need fluoride in my water...that is what toothpaste is for.
I've never been able to get a straight answer on how much tap water one should drink to achieve the benefits of flouridation. Is it a glass a day? Two? Once a week? How much is enough?
Google: Neurotoxicity of Sodium Flouride in Rats, by Phyllis Mullenix, then look what happened to her after publishing her findings. I'll let you theorize all you like, I stick to the facts - and the fact is that she is not alone.
yup, and it cost my significantly; both of my daughters got cavities due to it.
Fluoride in water always sounds good to people who want "better smiles" but it's 99% a waste of the money spent:
1. The version of fluoride they put in the water (Hexafluorosilicic acid) is not shown to help with dental decay issues. Sodium Fluoride is the chemical the ADA studies and recommends for toothpaste and dental products.
2. Hexafluorosilicic acid is a product manufactured from industrial waste in the aluminum industry and is considered a toxic substance. If industry hadn't conned municipalities in to putting it in the water supply as a "fluoride source" it would cost them a good chunk of change to dispose of the stuff. (Look up ALCOA and fluoride).
3. Consumption of unfiltered tap water, I'd say, is just about zero. I know no-one that drinks any substantive quantity of tap water that the fluoride content in it would ever have any clinical effect. Almost any filter designed to remove impurities will remove the fluoride from tap water.
4. Even if people were drinking only tap water, over 95% of the water used in an average municipality is very consumed by any living thing. It washes cars, waters lawns, bathes people, flushes toilets, cools industrial equipment, etc.
5. When I had this discussion with my town a few years ago asking them to provide numbers they told my it cost $63,000 a year in product and personnel to run the fluoridation system for 29.5 million gallons of potable water. That sounds like very little, .2 cents ($.002) per thousand gallons or an average of about $.30 per family per month. Sure when you make the numbers small it doesn't look like much, but think about what $63,000 a year gets if directed an other programs in a town. Another teacher or two? Extended library hours on the weekends? A new after school program?
6. No-one, I mean I searched hard, has studied the rate of change in a community pre and post fluoridation of tap water since an initial study of Grand Rapids and Muskegon in 1945. A study that was ended prematurely but touted as a success anyway despite its very unscientific lack of compensating for outside factors not related to the study itself and the "control" changing programs during the study.
7. The Grand Rapids "study" was based upon Sodium Fluoride, which again is not what we put in the water today. So even if the result was positive the hexafluorosilicic acid used today has never been studied for prevention of tooth decay in municipal water supplies and is a very different chemical compound just like Carbon Monoxide and Carbon Dioxide are very different chemicals. Search for
8. There is no version of any type of fluoride that is indicated by the FDA for the prevention of tooth decay. The municipal water companies are adding an non-FDA approved and unregulated drug to our water supply. The other substance added to water supplies (chlorine to be simple) is approved by the FDA for water and food sanitation.
As you can see, there is simply no supporting truth to the argument that fluoride in municipal water prevents tooth decay. It does cost a significant amount of money, and almost no-one drinks the fluoridated water anyway.
Do your own research. You will come to the same conclusion: municipal water fluoridation is based on lies, it's a waste of money, it doesn't work and it may actually cause harm to public health.
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I believe back in the 90's activists in some U.S. cities got their cities to stop adding fluoride to the supplies. Bad mineral exchanges immediately started to occur in the piping because of the accumulated minerals in the pipes which included a fluoride component started reacting with the water that no longer contained fluoride causing the water to become contaminated by minerals other than just fluoride. The water not only tasted bad, it was determined that it was not safe to drink.
It takes decades for the minerals in the piping to accumulate and it will take decades to slowly taper fluoride away if we want to avoid unintended consequences. I know the mineral content of water varies widely across supply sources so some cities may have no related problems and some could have severe problems.
let's be health everyday.
How about we cut down on the benzene in our drinking water first?
You are welcome on my lawn.
Look at the kind of thing this is doing to our drinking water.
We have to get the message out about this! Fluoride and other pollutants are making our water look like unicorn piss.
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My hometown was guilty of too much fluoride. Thankfully I missed out on the horrible brown fluoride stains that a lot of other people seemed to have. There is such a thing as too much. My teeth were mostly developed before I moved there, but I do have just a hint of the white streaks of mild fluorosis.
Distilled water is not "better" for you, primarily because it lacks minerals that your body needs to function. A little iron is good for the body, as is a little zinc, potassium, sodium, etc.. etc... Many of these things are lacking in foods for various reasons (over processing, soil composition in industrial farming, simply poor diets, etc..)
I agree with the fluoride part, we have that in all kinds of dental products and visits. I have read numerous articles debunking the myth that distilled water is better for you.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
I'm more concerned about this where I live: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C... http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pm... They have switched over a majority of municipalities to chloramine from chlorine and there is a good body of evidence it can do really bad things. Not directly, but by interacting chemically in different ways than chlorine did.
Fluoride only works topically (ie. brushing with fluoridated toothpaste); drinking it does nothing for your teeth. At best, fluoridated water is useless, at worst potentially harmful--and the only difference between these two is the concentration.
Since nobody drinks tapwater anyway, it doesn't really matter.
This explains the whole conspiracy:
https://youtu.be/Qr2bSL5VQgM
Thank you Dr. Strangelove!
Die dulci fruere. Have a nice day.
And so all the youngsters can get in on the fun...
Ripper:
You know when fluoridation first began?
Mandrake:
No. No, I don't, Jack. No.
Ripper:
Nineteen hundred and forty six. Nineteen fortysix, Mandrake. How does that coincide with your postwar commie conspiracy, huh? It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual, and certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard core commie works.
Mandrake:
Jack... Jack, listen, tell me, ah... when did you first become, well, develop this theory.
Ripper:
Well, I ah, I I first became aware of it, Mandrake, during the physical act of love.
Mandrake:
sighs fearfully
Ripper:
Yes a profound sense of fatigue, a feeling of emptiness followed. Luckily I was able to interpret these feelings correctly: loss of essence.
Mandrake:
Yes...
Ripper:
I can assure you it has not recurred, Mandrake. Women... women sense my power, and they seek the life essence. I do not avoid women, Mandrake, but I do deny them my essence.
When compared with "real sugar", sucrose in other words, it doesn't make much difference. It's 55% fructose instead of 50%.
HFCS 55 - one used in sodas, is 55 parts fructose, 42 parts glucose.
Sucrose - plain sugar, is 50 parts fructose and 50 parts glucose.
Our brains only measure the glucose intake, cause that is the sugar we start burning the moment it hits the bloodstream. We even absorb it directly through the oral cavity - hence oral glucose gel for diabetics.
When we hit optimal glucose the brain tells the body it had enough.
So, if optimal glucose is (some) 100 parts, that means that using sucrose, one would take in 100 parts of fructose and 100 parts of glucose.
To get to the same level of glucose satiety (those same 100 parts) with HFCS 55, one would take in 131 parts of fructose for every 100 parts of glucose.
Then all that fructose, as Al Green puts it, gets taken to the liver.
Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens
I've been trying to get an explanation on this for some time but can't get a clear answer. According to halogen displacement, Fluorine (and Chlorine) displace Iodine. Iodine is critical for health and immune function. Is it possible that Fluoride (and Chlorine) added to our water is displacing Iodine in our bodies? Does the fact that Fluorine and Fluoride are different come into play here?
False. http://www.ilikemyteeth.org/fl...
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There is your refutation. They do sell bottled water with fluoride in it, it is for mixing with baby formula.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
Well this should make the John Birch Society happy at least. ;-)
Another reason the feds may be lowering the fluoride standard is that we're getting more in our food recently. In 2004 and 2005, EPA registered sulfuryl fluoride for control of insect pests in harvested foods such as cereal grains, dried fruits, nuts, cocoa beans, etc. Sulfuryl fluoride breaks down to fluoride when it is applied and can leave fluoride residues on treated food. More info here: http://www.epa.gov/pesticides/....
The amounts of useful minerals in tap water (or even mineral water) are minuscule. You get more minerals from one bite of broccoli than from a whole gallon of mineral water. A lot more.
Though I am not saying that distilled water is better for you. I am saying that I prefer the flavor and the purity. The evidence at hand says the body is capable of dealing with the junk that is in tap water....I just don't want mine to.
Does anybody still drink tap water? They ought to be adding fluoride to bottled water.
But then, you have the problem of who to blame the conspiracy on, since Communist plots have gone out of fashion.
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You know that what you're looking for is the flouide ion, right - that's what strengthens teeth, not the other parts of the chemistry? And that both sodium floride and Hexafluorosiliic acid both dissociate in water to release F- ions? And that half of the free flourine in water is naturally occurring? And the pitchers and counter top/faucet filters don't remove flourine (it generally requires reverse osmosis)?
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
It also works systemically hence the reason it is added to water and in some places to table salt. You can also get it in tablet form. Although this is much less effective once you are past childhood.
yup, and it cost my significantly; both of my daughters got cavities due to it.
Yup. Must have been the flouride in the drinking supply that caused that.
Couldn't have possibly been the few dozen other factors that come into play that ultimately result in a cavity.
Especially in children, as they're such a dedicated, reliable group of humans, and perform activities like teeth brushing flawlessly, twice a day every day, including flossing (otherwise known as all that shit humans ignore after visiting their dentist)
On planet Earth, systemic fluoride is the most effective kind, because it gets built into tooth structure. If you have to live in a place like Afghanistan or Oregon, topical fluoride (the kind in toothpaste) is better than nothing.
This is where all of the rational minds of /. deviate from the well established pattern of government abuse (Snowden is a good catch-all term nowadays) and run to the defence of the well established science that is putting poison in the drinking water.
Let the game begin!
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I have asked many forced-fluoridation fanatics to tell me how much accumulated fluoride in the body they think is safe. So far not a single one of them has been able to answer the question.
http://forcedfluoridationfreedomfighters.com/a-preliminary-investigation-into-fluoride-accumulation-in-bone/
HHS asked for comments and over 19,000 people said artificial water fluoridation should be stopped completely and gave good reasons. HHS ignored them. Instead they quietly, without informing the public or those 19,000 commenters, released this information first to special interest groups such as the American Dental Association (ADA) and the Children's Dental Health Project so they were ready and quotable in news reports and then HHS released it publicly at meeting of the National Oral Health Coalition (whose goal is to increase fluoridation in the US) and where 3 prominent fluoridationists (at least one from the CDC) wore T-shirts that read, "F Yeah." And where pro-fluoridation strategy was discussed including how to use social media to promote fluoridation. The ADA, alone, allotted $500,000 to this cause.
HHS's report and widely repeated news release left out very important information that Americans need to know and HHS admits is a problem.
Buried in their report but not mentioned in the News Release, where more people could have been warned (but fluoridation harmed), is the admission that routinely mixing fluoridated water with infant formula puts babies at risk of developing dental fluorosis.
Fluorosis is just the outward sign of fluoride toxicity.
HHS didn't tell you that a 2006 National Research Council report revealed for the first time that fluoride is an “endocrine disruptor” which means it has the potential to harm the human body in several ways, especially to the thyroid gland which is the master gland of the body.
When fluoridation began, there was no idea that fluoride could get into the brain . Now we know from hundreds of animal studies, it does. 43 human studies show fluoridation can lower IQ. . A US study links fluoridation to ADHD.
In fact, drug companies are adding fluoride to some medicines to enable it to penetrate the brain better.
This fact alone should put fluoridation to rest forever. HHS admits fluoride gets into the brain but they infer that small amounts of fluoride in the brain is OK with them.
The question remains why is the government protecting fluoridation at all costs?
It's time for FluorideGate hearings
But when will they start taking all the toxic dihydrogen monoxide out of the water?!