Maybe in your country where lawyers are treated better than doctors and teachers, but in many other countries that is not the case. Maybe you should fix that part first, and the rest will take care of itself.
The death penalty should only be used when there is absolutely no doubt of guilt.
What about the mentally ill?
What about them? If you rape and murder then you lose your privilege to life. A bear doesn't know it shouldn't kill, but if it does we take it out of circulation. It's the same deal.
Moreover, remember the Central Park jogger case? Where they rounded up five minority scapegoats and said they brutally raped a pretty white girl? Everyone, including Donald Trump himself, was rallying to execute these kids. Now, it turns out they were all innocent. They spent 15 years of their lives in jail and they were LUCKY because they weren't executed. They had all of their primes taken away from them but they still get to live what's left.
That isn't an argument against any penalty, that is an argument against the piss-poor enforcement and judicial systems. Assume for a moment your justice system is top notch and always gets their guy, then is the punishment justified? If it was your kids raped and murdered? Your daughter packed raped multiple times and left to die on the street? Fuck that, those animals do not deserve the privilege of life. If you can't figure out a way to find the right guy then that is the problem, not the sentencing.
You seem to have a hole in your logic. A criminal is not deterred because by definition they have already offended. But there's plenty of potential criminals who chose a different path because they don't want to go to jail (or be executed).
The solution is to realise that we're in the 21st century, and we no longer need any of this "eye for an eye" nonsense.
Who gave you ownership of the what is appropriate in the 21st century? I think future generations will look back and wonder why we bothered putting so much effort into protecting parasites while schools and hospitals suffered. There is no eye for an eye, medieval revenge, it is purely efficiency. When you have cancer, you remove it. I have a garden, when I get weeds I pull them out. It's the exact same concept. The idea that a psychopath has some right to exist with climate control and cable TV is primitive. There are people that exist on this earth that cannot co-exist with a functional society, and I think future generations will be smart enough to recognise and remove them when required.
I hear about a lot of these cases in the US, but can't recall any like that here. The worst offenders I can think of off the top of my head were Port Arthur Massacre guy Martin Bryant, who killed 35 people, Ivan Milat who raped and murdered at least 7, and Bilal Skaf who was the ring leader of gang rapists. All of which are undeniable cases, all of which should be executed. the closest case I can think of was Dingo baby lady Lindy Chamberlain, but it quite obvious to anyone with a brain that she was probably innocent, and wouldn't be in the leagues of the pyschopathic animals that qualify for any hypothetical death sentence.
Worth pointing out at this time that a "life sentence" does not mean for the rest of your life in some jurisdictions. For example, the longest "life sentence" ever issued in New Zealand is 30 years.
The social contract is not enforceable by the legal courts, it is a law of the jungle and is therefore enforced as such. No-one comes into this world with guarantees, if you don't like it then do your own thing and see how far that gets you.
Cite?
Obviously different economics in different countries, but our worst inmates can cost us $10million over the course of their life imprisonment at a Supermax facility. I struggle to see how a few court cases and a few bullets cost more than that. If they do then the legal system, needs to be reviewed.
Those patients didn't know what the word placebo meant, or didn't speak English. I'm constantly surprised how many times I hear the word "penultimate" used a replacement for "better than ultimate". Placebo seems to fit into a similar category.
Well that's great, but the conspiracy that all doctors and researchers are in some league to resist any new ideas and stick with the status quo for pure profit is a bit far fetched.
What would it look like if we put all the the coal farms in the world in one place? Or all the football fields on earth? Or every single ant standing on each other's head?
Your argument is equally as ridiculous. I have enough solar panels on my roof to supply my needs. Assuming everyone else does too, and we have a method to distribute this power, then the problem it not a crazy as you make it sound.
The Fed Govt threw a Trillion dollars away in a pointless war and didn't even blink. I'm not sure what universe you live in that you think Apple has that sort of spending power.
These types of people will get laughed at if they are in the company of other rich people who own $20k Swiss watches. If you've ever been on a yacht you'll understand how this crowd works.
True. Because everyone needs a mobile phone, and Apple make the shiniest versions of those. No-one needs a smart-watch (just ask Samsung), so the market is completely different.
I'll admit a lot of them have iPhones. But that's because they need a phone, and Apple has the shiniest models for non-techies. But no-one needs a smart watch, in fact they don't even need the watches or yachts or super cars they already have either. They own these things to tell the world they have made it, and a consumer toy made in China doesn't really have that same appeal. When you're steering your 60ft classic 1960's racing yacht around the heads with your hand made cashmere sweater draped across your shoulders, you're not going to spoil that image with anything that uses electricity.
Until they look at the balance sheet next year and realise what Samsung et all already know. Smart watches (along with those stupid fitness bands) are a gimmick. I'm sure they'll make some cash short term, but I really can't see this being a thing in 10 years time.
Not the same, since these are analog copies, not the same instance, nor are any of them likely to accurately resemble the original thing. The pyramids, are the actual pyramids that were built 4500 years ago.
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Maybe in your country where lawyers are treated better than doctors and teachers, but in many other countries that is not the case. Maybe you should fix that part first, and the rest will take care of itself.
The death penalty should only be used when there is absolutely no doubt of guilt.
What about the mentally ill?
What about them? If you rape and murder then you lose your privilege to life. A bear doesn't know it shouldn't kill, but if it does we take it out of circulation. It's the same deal.
Moreover, remember the Central Park jogger case? Where they rounded up five minority scapegoats and said they brutally raped a pretty white girl? Everyone, including Donald Trump himself, was rallying to execute these kids. Now, it turns out they were all innocent. They spent 15 years of their lives in jail and they were LUCKY because they weren't executed. They had all of their primes taken away from them but they still get to live what's left.
That isn't an argument against any penalty, that is an argument against the piss-poor enforcement and judicial systems. Assume for a moment your justice system is top notch and always gets their guy, then is the punishment justified? If it was your kids raped and murdered? Your daughter packed raped multiple times and left to die on the street? Fuck that, those animals do not deserve the privilege of life. If you can't figure out a way to find the right guy then that is the problem, not the sentencing.
The same Norway that allowed Anders Brevik to murder 69 people? Um you can keep that system of justice thanks...
Please stop allowing serious and violent criminals to live and reoffend in the name of justice. Just stop.
You seem to have a hole in your logic. A criminal is not deterred because by definition they have already offended. But there's plenty of potential criminals who chose a different path because they don't want to go to jail (or be executed).
The solution is to realise that we're in the 21st century, and we no longer need any of this "eye for an eye" nonsense.
Who gave you ownership of the what is appropriate in the 21st century? I think future generations will look back and wonder why we bothered putting so much effort into protecting parasites while schools and hospitals suffered. There is no eye for an eye, medieval revenge, it is purely efficiency. When you have cancer, you remove it. I have a garden, when I get weeds I pull them out. It's the exact same concept. The idea that a psychopath has some right to exist with climate control and cable TV is primitive. There are people that exist on this earth that cannot co-exist with a functional society, and I think future generations will be smart enough to recognise and remove them when required.
Well whatever cavemen believe is what we should believe. To hell with evolution!
I hear about a lot of these cases in the US, but can't recall any like that here. The worst offenders I can think of off the top of my head were Port Arthur Massacre guy Martin Bryant, who killed 35 people, Ivan Milat who raped and murdered at least 7, and Bilal Skaf who was the ring leader of gang rapists. All of which are undeniable cases, all of which should be executed. the closest case I can think of was Dingo baby lady Lindy Chamberlain, but it quite obvious to anyone with a brain that she was probably innocent, and wouldn't be in the leagues of the pyschopathic animals that qualify for any hypothetical death sentence.
Perhaps a better example would be Napoleon, since he actually made a comeback after exile, and marched on Paris once again?
Worth pointing out at this time that a "life sentence" does not mean for the rest of your life in some jurisdictions. For example, the longest "life sentence" ever issued in New Zealand is 30 years.
Jungle law doesn't have lawyers, only survivors and corpses.
The social contract is not enforceable by the legal courts, it is a law of the jungle and is therefore enforced as such. No-one comes into this world with guarantees, if you don't like it then do your own thing and see how far that gets you.
I'm sorry you're too simple minded to realize how flawed your justice system is, and how many innocents had their lives taken by it.
Don't confuse concept with implementation.
Cite? Obviously different economics in different countries, but our worst inmates can cost us $10million over the course of their life imprisonment at a Supermax facility. I struggle to see how a few court cases and a few bullets cost more than that. If they do then the legal system, needs to be reviewed.
Those patients didn't know what the word placebo meant, or didn't speak English. I'm constantly surprised how many times I hear the word "penultimate" used a replacement for "better than ultimate". Placebo seems to fit into a similar category.
Well that's great, but the conspiracy that all doctors and researchers are in some league to resist any new ideas and stick with the status quo for pure profit is a bit far fetched.
What would it look like if we put all the the coal farms in the world in one place? Or all the football fields on earth? Or every single ant standing on each other's head? Your argument is equally as ridiculous. I have enough solar panels on my roof to supply my needs. Assuming everyone else does too, and we have a method to distribute this power, then the problem it not a crazy as you make it sound.
The Fed Govt threw a Trillion dollars away in a pointless war and didn't even blink. I'm not sure what universe you live in that you think Apple has that sort of spending power.
These types of people will get laughed at if they are in the company of other rich people who own $20k Swiss watches. If you've ever been on a yacht you'll understand how this crowd works.
True. Because everyone needs a mobile phone, and Apple make the shiniest versions of those. No-one needs a smart-watch (just ask Samsung), so the market is completely different.
I'll admit a lot of them have iPhones. But that's because they need a phone, and Apple has the shiniest models for non-techies. But no-one needs a smart watch, in fact they don't even need the watches or yachts or super cars they already have either. They own these things to tell the world they have made it, and a consumer toy made in China doesn't really have that same appeal. When you're steering your 60ft classic 1960's racing yacht around the heads with your hand made cashmere sweater draped across your shoulders, you're not going to spoil that image with anything that uses electricity.
Until they look at the balance sheet next year and realise what Samsung et all already know. Smart watches (along with those stupid fitness bands) are a gimmick. I'm sure they'll make some cash short term, but I really can't see this being a thing in 10 years time.
Are you really that stupid? Demand for American Citizenship is strongest in places where the OP doesn't live. Use your fucking brain.
Not the same, since these are analog copies, not the same instance, nor are any of them likely to accurately resemble the original thing. The pyramids, are the actual pyramids that were built 4500 years ago.