No it won't. Artists will still copy and mimic, it's only the money grubbing leeches in the middle that will have to find something else to do.
Do you think Van Gogh killed himself for profit? Artists will still create art, even when the money runs out.
I don't think people are hating the subject matter as much as the reporting. Is it that difficult to be able to provide intelligent headlines and summaries to your target market of intelligent people? I've given up on mainstream media completely, now I'm almost giving up on Slashdot. Now I know why old people turn into hermits.
It's not that complicated: it's really hard to make a profit selling people their own mind's ability to heal them.
The placebo only works if you don't think it's a placebo. So if people believe in weird shit, yet it increase to success of the placebo effect then where's the harm?
We've known dogs and rats can readily detect lung and many other cancers just by smelling a person's breath since at least the 50s (or was it 20s),.
Have we? I've heard the stories, but have never seen the science. If it it were true, it doesn't require Big Medicine to throw off the shackles of Big Snake Oil, surely Cesar Millan would be out there making even even more millions?
This was the point that turned my thinking around. I hate that mumbo jumbo shit as much as the next guy, but placebos have been scientifically proven to work (sometimes). They can not only heal, they have shown to make people sicker than they were as well.
So sure, Homeopathy, Astrology and Jesus might be a load of shit, but if it actually works due to the placebo effect, then we may have to lighten up on the hate just a little.
MS uses it's SNTP which is the simplified version that just works for MS OS's on MS domains. This doesn't work if you have switches, routers or anything non-MS that you need accurate time for (which all use regular NTP).
I don't know much about NTP, other trying to implement it a few times and always end up scratching my head wondering why this is so hard? It's a fucking clock that just needs to be sycn'd. Why all the archiac hieroglyphic commands? Why not just a button that says sync with this server, with a status saying it's working or not? It doesn't need to be harder than that for most people.
It must be different there. Tracking bracelets here are not just track violent offenders, they are also used for low-risk house arrest types ie white collar crims. Instead of expensive incarceration in a low security hotel like facility, the offender is forced to stay at home. It serves a similar purpose (ie restriction of freedom) but costs the taxpayer a whole lot less.
This being said, the Swiss watch industry has been carefully marketing its expensive mechanical watches, creating that impression of refined heirloom engineering and jewelry, while by and large you pay simply for marketing and big profits. Very little real innovation happens in the world of mechanical watches. There is the coaxial escapement from Daniels, but what else was recently introduced? The price of luxury watches goes mainly to profit, marketing (posters with Daniel Craig everywhere), boutique costs. In a way you don't get more real engineering quality in many swiss watches than in a gold apple watch.
The big difference is hardware vs software. Most people prefer things that are tangible, and physical things have historically proven to last a lot longer than virtual things (See the Pyramids for example) . People don't buy Swiss for the technology, it is all about the conservative, long lasting, refined image you think you are buying into. I can't see a technology company ever cracking into that space. The two are mutually exclusive. If anything the popularity of old fashioned-ness has been brought about as a foil to the increasingly technological world.
Wearing a watch has always been fashionable. I used to work for a fashion retailer and watches were our most reliable profit centre. Sure it fell off the scene for everyday types once the mobile phone market took off, but then these people probably aren't interested in a smart watch. For people interested in fashion and accessories, the watch was always a must have. And it's not like this is a new thing, Other manufacturers have smart watches already yet the concept hasn't exactly taken the world by storm.
If you knew anything about fashion, then it has nothing to do with practicality. Jewellery is pure form over function, otherwise why else would high heels exist?
Yeah and back in 1991 you were probably telling us Apple could never fail at anything ever. Keep riding the hype wave, everyone knows they always last forever...
I can't understand the fuss, since the iWatch and a Swiss watch are two different markets. It's equivalent to saying the new Nikes will kill Louboutin's couture high heel market because sneakers are lighter and more practical. Or TV dinners will destroy the three hat restaurant scene because food is now easier and more convenient
I know a few people with expensive watches ($10k+) These people are not interested in flavour of the day gadgets, they prefer hand made shirts, and shoes, and fine dining, and associate with brands that are conservative, exclusive and stand the test of time. None which Apple qualify for.
Who said it was being done at production? Since we're talking fantasy-land physics, it's just a trivial to manipulate the surface of a star as the core.
As a general rule of thumb, a less intelligent thing does not possess the means to understand a more intelligent thing. Since anything with the ability to manipulate a star is clearly more intelligent than us, it would be foolish to even think you are in a position to judge their intelligence level.
Look I'm pissed off with slashdot as much as the next guy, but soylentnews looks so shit it is unreadable. I feel like I'm reading some 1994 VGA text in horrible 4 bit colours. I'm glad they want to do better, but they're going to have to try a bit harder than that.
Oh there'll be a niche market, that is my point. The Swiss watch market (ie real watches) is somewhere around 30mil units per year. If Apple get anywhere close to that I'll eat my hat.
The iWatch is a toy, because it is mostly gimmick value, it needs to be charged daily which is a ridiculous concept for a watch, and it will probably be obsolete in less than 10 years. I'm sorry if this offends you.
But consumer electronics don't really fit into the "ostentatious displays of wealth". That is million dollar cars, yachts, mansions, and private jets. These people buy real watches handcrafted in Switzerland and Germany, not assembled by battery slaves in China. I'm willing to accept that I'm wrong, but I think Apple has missed the market completely with this. They'll sell a few, but don't expect that many people with a $10k Rolex is going to want one of these toys.
I agree. I own a 45 year old Rolex and I've never touched it and it still works fine. It was an inheritance which sits in a box for the next inheritance. I also own a 20 year fake Tag I bought for $10 in 1995 and the same applies.
I see you didn't actually address the point. Consumer Electronics are a different market segment from luxury jewellery for the reasons I implied. Apple is about to learn this the hard way.
I think you replied to the wrong person.
My argument is that you can't just keep you're phone because they become obsolete quite quickly, so you are forced to update every couple of years.
I don't know if you know many rich people, but any established wealthy person is not going to taint themselves with this junk. The likely market will be teenage kids of rich people, and new and upcoming rappers/football players.
who still wears watches? will they switch if they do? will they start now if they dont?
Mature people still wear watches. They wear watches less out of a need to tell the time, and more as an accessory or piece of jewellery that advertises status. Just like a Twill shirt with spread collar and cufflinks. There is no functional reason other than to demonstrate to like minded souls that they've grown up and reached a certain level in life. This might be meaningless to you, but that is the market for watch buyers. Which seems a little odd to me, since it's the opposite market of your average 20-something iToy idiot.
why? because people in China, Asia, and the Middle East (think rich Quataris) *absolutely love* our pointless opulent bullshit consumer products
Americans are, arguably, the most discriminating, least hype-driven of the wealthy classes of the world
This is the same place that made Paris Hilton, Kim Kardashian and Donald Trump? We're talking the same place right?
And it's a bit stupid to generalise an entire continent of people with nearly 2/3rds the global population? Talking about hype...
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No it won't. Artists will still copy and mimic, it's only the money grubbing leeches in the middle that will have to find something else to do. Do you think Van Gogh killed himself for profit? Artists will still create art, even when the money runs out.
I don't think people are hating the subject matter as much as the reporting. Is it that difficult to be able to provide intelligent headlines and summaries to your target market of intelligent people? I've given up on mainstream media completely, now I'm almost giving up on Slashdot. Now I know why old people turn into hermits.
Although having said that, I've never heard of any placebo curing an amputation :)
It's not that complicated: it's really hard to make a profit selling people their own mind's ability to heal them.
The placebo only works if you don't think it's a placebo. So if people believe in weird shit, yet it increase to success of the placebo effect then where's the harm?
We've known dogs and rats can readily detect lung and many other cancers just by smelling a person's breath since at least the 50s (or was it 20s),.
Have we? I've heard the stories, but have never seen the science. If it it were true, it doesn't require Big Medicine to throw off the shackles of Big Snake Oil, surely Cesar Millan would be out there making even even more millions?
This was the point that turned my thinking around. I hate that mumbo jumbo shit as much as the next guy, but placebos have been scientifically proven to work (sometimes). They can not only heal, they have shown to make people sicker than they were as well.
So sure, Homeopathy, Astrology and Jesus might be a load of shit, but if it actually works due to the placebo effect, then we may have to lighten up on the hate just a little.
MS uses it's SNTP which is the simplified version that just works for MS OS's on MS domains. This doesn't work if you have switches, routers or anything non-MS that you need accurate time for (which all use regular NTP).
I don't know much about NTP, other trying to implement it a few times and always end up scratching my head wondering why this is so hard? It's a fucking clock that just needs to be sycn'd. Why all the archiac hieroglyphic commands? Why not just a button that says sync with this server, with a status saying it's working or not? It doesn't need to be harder than that for most people.
It must be different there. Tracking bracelets here are not just track violent offenders, they are also used for low-risk house arrest types ie white collar crims. Instead of expensive incarceration in a low security hotel like facility, the offender is forced to stay at home. It serves a similar purpose (ie restriction of freedom) but costs the taxpayer a whole lot less.
This being said, the Swiss watch industry has been carefully marketing its expensive mechanical watches, creating that impression of refined heirloom engineering and jewelry, while by and large you pay simply for marketing and big profits. Very little real innovation happens in the world of mechanical watches. There is the coaxial escapement from Daniels, but what else was recently introduced? The price of luxury watches goes mainly to profit, marketing (posters with Daniel Craig everywhere), boutique costs. In a way you don't get more real engineering quality in many swiss watches than in a gold apple watch.
The big difference is hardware vs software. Most people prefer things that are tangible, and physical things have historically proven to last a lot longer than virtual things (See the Pyramids for example) . People don't buy Swiss for the technology, it is all about the conservative, long lasting, refined image you think you are buying into. I can't see a technology company ever cracking into that space. The two are mutually exclusive. If anything the popularity of old fashioned-ness has been brought about as a foil to the increasingly technological world.
Wearing a watch has always been fashionable. I used to work for a fashion retailer and watches were our most reliable profit centre. Sure it fell off the scene for everyday types once the mobile phone market took off, but then these people probably aren't interested in a smart watch. For people interested in fashion and accessories, the watch was always a must have. And it's not like this is a new thing, Other manufacturers have smart watches already yet the concept hasn't exactly taken the world by storm.
If you knew anything about fashion, then it has nothing to do with practicality. Jewellery is pure form over function, otherwise why else would high heels exist?
Yeah and back in 1991 you were probably telling us Apple could never fail at anything ever. Keep riding the hype wave, everyone knows they always last forever...
I can't understand the fuss, since the iWatch and a Swiss watch are two different markets. It's equivalent to saying the new Nikes will kill Louboutin's couture high heel market because sneakers are lighter and more practical. Or TV dinners will destroy the three hat restaurant scene because food is now easier and more convenient I know a few people with expensive watches ($10k+) These people are not interested in flavour of the day gadgets, they prefer hand made shirts, and shoes, and fine dining, and associate with brands that are conservative, exclusive and stand the test of time. None which Apple qualify for.
Er, yes it does. Otherwise how else do you get (and keep - assuming you acquired it) that technology?
Who said it was being done at production? Since we're talking fantasy-land physics, it's just a trivial to manipulate the surface of a star as the core.
As a general rule of thumb, a less intelligent thing does not possess the means to understand a more intelligent thing. Since anything with the ability to manipulate a star is clearly more intelligent than us, it would be foolish to even think you are in a position to judge their intelligence level.
Look I'm pissed off with slashdot as much as the next guy, but soylentnews looks so shit it is unreadable. I feel like I'm reading some 1994 VGA text in horrible 4 bit colours. I'm glad they want to do better, but they're going to have to try a bit harder than that.
Oh there'll be a niche market, that is my point. The Swiss watch market (ie real watches) is somewhere around 30mil units per year. If Apple get anywhere close to that I'll eat my hat. The iWatch is a toy, because it is mostly gimmick value, it needs to be charged daily which is a ridiculous concept for a watch, and it will probably be obsolete in less than 10 years. I'm sorry if this offends you.
But consumer electronics don't really fit into the "ostentatious displays of wealth". That is million dollar cars, yachts, mansions, and private jets. These people buy real watches handcrafted in Switzerland and Germany, not assembled by battery slaves in China. I'm willing to accept that I'm wrong, but I think Apple has missed the market completely with this. They'll sell a few, but don't expect that many people with a $10k Rolex is going to want one of these toys.
I agree. I own a 45 year old Rolex and I've never touched it and it still works fine. It was an inheritance which sits in a box for the next inheritance. I also own a 20 year fake Tag I bought for $10 in 1995 and the same applies.
I see you didn't actually address the point. Consumer Electronics are a different market segment from luxury jewellery for the reasons I implied. Apple is about to learn this the hard way.
I think you replied to the wrong person. My argument is that you can't just keep you're phone because they become obsolete quite quickly, so you are forced to update every couple of years.
I don't know if you know many rich people, but any established wealthy person is not going to taint themselves with this junk. The likely market will be teenage kids of rich people, and new and upcoming rappers/football players.
who still wears watches? will they switch if they do? will they start now if they dont?
Mature people still wear watches. They wear watches less out of a need to tell the time, and more as an accessory or piece of jewellery that advertises status. Just like a Twill shirt with spread collar and cufflinks. There is no functional reason other than to demonstrate to like minded souls that they've grown up and reached a certain level in life. This might be meaningless to you, but that is the market for watch buyers. Which seems a little odd to me, since it's the opposite market of your average 20-something iToy idiot.
yes!
why? because people in China, Asia, and the Middle East (think rich Quataris) *absolutely love* our pointless opulent bullshit consumer products
Americans are, arguably, the most discriminating, least hype-driven of the wealthy classes of the world
This is the same place that made Paris Hilton, Kim Kardashian and Donald Trump? We're talking the same place right?
And it's a bit stupid to generalise an entire continent of people with nearly 2/3rds the global population? Talking about hype...