So my question is where do the polititians get the addresses to spam? Since it's opt-out (but not the bad kind of opt-out of course) they don't ask people for their emails, so they must get them from a list from somewhere. Is there some sort of listing of email addresses and their geographic areas? I assume that sending email to say, canada to ask for votes for the sacramento east riding isn't going to do much good... Do they just purchase a list from a spamhaus and go to it or what?
I almost wish I didn't have spamassassin running so I could see if I get any, and offer my opinions:)
I also like how they say that while commercial mail^wspam is evil and bad, with their all a user has to do is click the unsubscribe, delete the message without reading it, or reply to "engage the sender". I'm pretty sure that most people have learnt by now not to reply to spam as it'll just stick you in their "valid address" lists, and I really wonder if the person sending said political spam is really going to read through the replies he gets, especially after the first 30 or 40 messages filled with people's opinions of him/her...
Not only that, but of their 10 features/benifits, 5 of them are tagged with the ^2 disclaimer....
Of course, we all know from microsoft that it's much easier to sell systems on features that aren't really there than to actually build them in completely sometimes!
Wow, all I can say to that is "can you get any more blatently big brotherish than this?" A lot of the 1984-esque things that have been going on lately have been similar to BB and nazi germany (report your friends etc), but suddenly they are proposing a literal thought police?
... in the form of a large animated billboard, positioned right when you get off a bridge, and have a nice big ugly merge. It's probably not that big a deal when you're stuck in rushhour traffic and not moving, but in normal traffic it just *sucks* to have that extra little bit of distraction out of the corner of your eye. I can't wait until a family of nuns gets smeared all over the road by some guy in an SUV that is distracted by the local 7-11 big gulp prices, maybe then they'll turn that shit off.
2) Make it illegal to send solicitations for age-restricted products (pornography, cigarettes, gambling, katmandu temple kiff...) to minors. Don't give me a free speech spiel. Go try and put up a billboard for hot rape sex porn. And for the people that bust this one: don't bother with the fines. Send 'em to jail.
Agreed, but this causes "problems" for the spammers. First, it means you have to know your audience, and have demographic information about them. I have enough trouble with my email being out on the spam lists, no way in hell I'm submitting age, income, etc.
This means you can't shotgun spam, which is the main point of it (as I understand). If your return is 1%, the more you send out the better, right, and restricting to the > 18year olds (oh, and what is the legal age in all the countries you're sending spam to btw).
Besides, don't most of the spammers operate out of countries where laws don't apply (asia, etc), so having all the spam rules in the world get the 2% that are in an area where they can be enforced...
I totally agree with all your points, but the problem is the advantage of the internet, it's a global thing, and creating global laws is quite hard:)
Ah but there is fiscal consideration if the kernel requires say, more ram, or more space (even by a bit). While dealing with embedded devices we are talking about saving bytes, and for us, when we tried to move from 2.0 to 2.4 (for iptables) we found that a completely stripped kernel was still larger than our previous 2.0 kernel. So.... back to 2.0.39 it was! Sure we could have upgraded our devices with ram and larger DOCs, but that would have added cost to the board, and therefor our bottom line, and that is a fiscal cost.
Not only floppy but other embedded devices. My old company was using 2.0.39 simply because otherwise we couldn't fit it onto the system, or get it to use a reasonable amount of ram. When you're trying to produce hundreds of thousands of units, the move from say, an 8 meg DOC or DIMM to a 16 meg one is a big expense. The 2.0 series was stable, time tested, and fit in a very small amount of space. We simply couldn't get the same results from 2.4.
Of course, to reply to myself before anyone else, this doesn't mean this is 'good music', just popular music. Good music does absolutely need a good songwriter.
Well, not always:) I've heard a lot of complete shit that has made people go ga-ga over the "musician" (and I use this term loosly). Look at britney or pretty much any other boy or girl band, and listen to the shit they put out (written I'm sure, by spasmatic monkeys on acid).
The goals of longhorn are actually quite good, and something that the linux community should be working on, if linux is really going to be "revolutionary" in the desktop. The following points from the article are interesting, and have been seen..... kinda, already, but not really:
Why are my document files stored one way, my contacts another way, and my e-mail and instant-messaging buddy list still another, and why aren't they related to my calendar or to one another and easy to search en masse?
Why can't my computer protect me from distractions by screening phone calls and e-mails, and why can't it track me down when I'm out of the office or forward things to me automatically?
Why can't our computers arrange conference calls and online meetings for us?
Why is it so hard for a soccer mom to set up a simple Website and e-mail group to keep people informed about who's driving and who's bringing treats?
Why can't I tap into all my stuff at home or at work from any device that's mine, and have it just be available because it knows I'm me?
Why can't I read digital versions of magazines on my portable computer that look the way they're supposed to look?
Some of these have obvious security concerns (esp in a closed source environment and coming from microsoft), but in general, this is the sort of thinking that gives us the futuristic world we see in movies where everyone is connected to everything.
Speaking of E, when the hell is there going to be a usable release of e17?? I know they're rewriting it all from scratch again, but it's been years now!
Swallowing other applets than GNOME-applets is hardly useful for anyone but a very few. It was a great source of bugs, and nobody really wanted to fix it. It was decided that unless someone really wanted it badly enough to fix it, then it would be dropped. Nobody wanted it badly enough.
What about those who wanted it but can't code? Personally the one feature that I wanted it for was for gabber's swallowed applet. This works perfectly in kde3, even though gabber is a gnome app. As I use jabber for all my communication (icq, msn, etc) I really need a decent jabber client that will work in gnome2. If there is one out there, great, but the best I've seen are either PSI (swallowed into the kde dock, as it's a kde app) and gabber (swallowed into the gnome or kde dock, and a gnome app), and it seems that neither of them will work now:(
Okiedokie then, I was under the obviously wrong impression that that is how it was. Oh well, guess there are other reasons for IE's crashes to blue screen the OS then:)
Tux is a webserver, not a html renderer:) Also, you have a choice to use tux or not, so if it becomes a security risk, or prone to crashing, you can turn it off. You don't have that choice with windows/IE.
AFAIK IIS doesn't patch itself into the kernel, but who knows....
Addendum^3 Are you guys making money? The cost of the huge amount of infastructure in bandwidth and hardware must be huge, and while I've heard of a few different paths of revenue income (custom installs/setups, and the text ads) is it profitable for you yet?
The end result is that you may be right, but for those of us not stuck in the windows world, we're out of luck, and have to go with the (inferior), but far more heavily entrenched, mp3. Same with AVI, much better compression and quality than mpg for the same size, but unless you're either using the crossover tools, or have something like aviplay, you're out of luck if you're using something like linux.
They also have a "simple html" view for mail, which sanitizes incoming html to simple html or plaintext. A cool feature, but to be honest, the rest of the browser looks exactly like mozilla with the modern skin and "beonex communicator" in the titlebar.
Learn the magic of port forwarding with ipmasqadm, and use that to port forward connections to port 22 (or whatever port you choose) to your internal local workstation on port 22 when they are coming from your work workstation. In pseudo code, using external port 2222, your firewall would look something like this:
ALLOW FROM TO port 2222 FORWARD from port 2222 TO port 22 DENY FROM ALL port 2222
And voila, only connections from your work IP are allowed in. Of course, you may have to go through more rigorious methods if your work has masquerading going, and you don't trust your work-mates to not try to hax0r your system:)
Isn't the point of the article that now you can go to a Verisign approved website for (unicode of some big company) and have it check out properly because there is a verisign cert for the site (unicode of some big company)?
People now seem to be good at knowing that if you get funny pop ups about self signed certs or certificates not matching the url that they don't put in their credit card number... now suddenly that doesn't apply, because you won't get that, and the differences aren't as obvious as those for something like paypaI.com or micros0ft.com:)
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So my question is where do the polititians get the addresses to spam? Since it's opt-out (but not the bad kind of opt-out of course) they don't ask people for their emails, so they must get them from a list from somewhere. Is there some sort of listing of email addresses and their geographic areas? I assume that sending email to say, canada to ask for votes for the sacramento east riding isn't going to do much good... Do they just purchase a list from a spamhaus and go to it or what?
:)
I almost wish I didn't have spamassassin running so I could see if I get any, and offer my opinions
BTW, there is a good presentation on Mail::Audit and Mail::Spamassassin linked over at http://igor.penguinsinthenight.com/spamtalk/ with a PPT at this site.
I also like how they say that while commercial mail^wspam is evil and bad, with their all a user has to do is click the unsubscribe, delete the message without reading it, or reply to "engage the sender". I'm pretty sure that most people have learnt by now not to reply to spam as it'll just stick you in their "valid address" lists, and I really wonder if the person sending said political spam is really going to read through the replies he gets, especially after the first 30 or 40 messages filled with people's opinions of him/her...
Not only that, but of their 10 features/benifits, 5 of them are tagged with the ^2 disclaimer....
Of course, we all know from microsoft that it's much easier to sell systems on features that aren't really there than to actually build them in completely sometimes!
Wow, all I can say to that is "can you get any more blatently big brotherish than this?" A lot of the 1984-esque things that have been going on lately have been similar to BB and nazi germany (report your friends etc), but suddenly they are proposing a literal thought police?
*shaking head*
Wow
... in the form of a large animated billboard, positioned right when you get off a bridge, and have a nice big ugly merge. It's probably not that big a deal when you're stuck in rushhour traffic and not moving, but in normal traffic it just *sucks* to have that extra little bit of distraction out of the corner of your eye. I can't wait until a family of nuns gets smeared all over the road by some guy in an SUV that is distracted by the local 7-11 big gulp prices, maybe then they'll turn that shit off.
2) Make it illegal to send solicitations for age-restricted products (pornography, cigarettes, gambling, katmandu temple kiff...) to minors. Don't give me a free speech spiel. Go try and put up a billboard for hot rape sex porn. And for the people that bust this one: don't bother with the fines. Send 'em to jail.
:)
Agreed, but this causes "problems" for the spammers. First, it means you have to know your audience, and have demographic information about them. I have enough trouble with my email being out on the spam lists, no way in hell I'm submitting age, income, etc.
This means you can't shotgun spam, which is the main point of it (as I understand). If your return is 1%, the more you send out the better, right, and restricting to the > 18year olds (oh, and what is the legal age in all the countries you're sending spam to btw).
Besides, don't most of the spammers operate out of countries where laws don't apply (asia, etc), so having all the spam rules in the world get the 2% that are in an area where they can be enforced...
I totally agree with all your points, but the problem is the advantage of the internet, it's a global thing, and creating global laws is quite hard
Ah but there is fiscal consideration if the kernel requires say, more ram, or more space (even by a bit). While dealing with embedded devices we are talking about saving bytes, and for us, when we tried to move from 2.0 to 2.4 (for iptables) we found that a completely stripped kernel was still larger than our previous 2.0 kernel. So.... back to 2.0.39 it was! Sure we could have upgraded our devices with ram and larger DOCs, but that would have added cost to the board, and therefor our bottom line, and that is a fiscal cost.
Not only floppy but other embedded devices. My old company was using 2.0.39 simply because otherwise we couldn't fit it onto the system, or get it to use a reasonable amount of ram. When you're trying to produce hundreds of thousands of units, the move from say, an 8 meg DOC or DIMM to a 16 meg one is a big expense. The 2.0 series was stable, time tested, and fit in a very small amount of space. We simply couldn't get the same results from 2.4.
Of course, to reply to myself before anyone else, this doesn't mean this is 'good music', just popular music. Good music does absolutely need a good songwriter.
Well, not always :) I've heard a lot of complete shit that has made people go ga-ga over the "musician" (and I use this term loosly). Look at britney or pretty much any other boy or girl band, and listen to the shit they put out (written I'm sure, by spasmatic monkeys on acid).
Excellent article, thanks for the link! This is almost as good as the Courtney Love does the Math article on salon.
Some of these have obvious security concerns (esp in a closed source environment and coming from microsoft), but in general, this is the sort of thinking that gives us the futuristic world we see in movies where everyone is connected to everything.
Speaking of E, when the hell is there going to be a usable release of e17?? I know they're rewriting it all from scratch again, but it's been years now!
Erhm.. last I saw there was a cool hack for the Xbox that allows people to fake out the xbox bios that only allows "real" xbox programs to run.
Swallowing other applets than GNOME-applets is hardly useful for anyone but a very few. It was a great source of bugs, and nobody really wanted to fix it. It was decided that unless someone really wanted it badly enough to fix it, then it would be dropped. Nobody wanted it badly enough.
:(
What about those who wanted it but can't code? Personally the one feature that I wanted it for was for gabber's swallowed applet. This works perfectly in kde3, even though gabber is a gnome app. As I use jabber for all my communication (icq, msn, etc) I really need a decent jabber client that will work in gnome2. If there is one out there, great, but the best I've seen are either PSI (swallowed into the kde dock, as it's a kde app) and gabber (swallowed into the gnome or kde dock, and a gnome app), and it seems that neither of them will work now
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Okiedokie then, I was under the obviously wrong impression that that is how it was. Oh well, guess there are other reasons for IE's crashes to blue screen the OS then :)
Tux is a webserver, not a html renderer :) Also, you have a choice to use tux or not, so if it becomes a security risk, or prone to crashing, you can turn it off. You don't have that choice with windows/IE.
AFAIK IIS doesn't patch itself into the kernel, but who knows....
You mean silly things like embedding the http parser dll into the kernel to speed up page rendering? Yea, that'd be silly :)
Addendum^3
Are you guys making money? The cost of the huge amount of infastructure in bandwidth and hardware must be huge, and while I've heard of a few different paths of revenue income (custom installs/setups, and the text ads) is it profitable for you yet?
The end result is that you may be right, but for those of us not stuck in the windows world, we're out of luck, and have to go with the (inferior), but far more heavily entrenched, mp3. Same with AVI, much better compression and quality than mpg for the same size, but unless you're either using the crossover tools, or have something like aviplay, you're out of luck if you're using something like linux.
They also have a "simple html" view for mail, which sanitizes incoming html to simple html or plaintext. A cool feature, but to be honest, the rest of the browser looks exactly like mozilla with the modern skin and "beonex communicator" in the titlebar.
Stupid slashdot eating my fancy formatting. This is what I meant:
:P
ALLOW FROM <work ip> TO port 2222
FORWARD from <external ip> port 2222 TO <home internal workstaion ip> port 22
DENY FROM ALL port 2222
Next time I'll check the preview properly
Learn the magic of port forwarding with ipmasqadm, and use that to port forward connections to port 22 (or whatever port you choose) to your internal local workstation on port 22 when they are coming from your work workstation. In pseudo code, using external port 2222, your firewall would look something like this:
:)
ALLOW FROM TO port 2222
FORWARD from port 2222 TO port 22
DENY FROM ALL port 2222
And voila, only connections from your work IP are allowed in. Of course, you may have to go through more rigorious methods if your work has masquerading going, and you don't trust your work-mates to not try to hax0r your system
Isn't the point of the article that now you can go to a Verisign approved website for (unicode of some big company) and have it check out properly because there is a verisign cert for the site (unicode of some big company)?
:)
People now seem to be good at knowing that if you get funny pop ups about self signed certs or certificates not matching the url that they don't put in their credit card number... now suddenly that doesn't apply, because you won't get that, and the differences aren't as obvious as those for something like paypaI.com or micros0ft.com
Hehehe, if you hit the page that the virus opens to get the author more page impressions (http://benjamin.xww.de/), you get:
:)
"
Domain aufgrund von massiven Beschwerden gesperrt.
Domain closed due to massive abuse.
"
Now I wonder if it was closed because someone wrote a virus, or because the virus worked so well he went over his bandwidth allocation!