but at the same time, i think the music industry serves a purpose. they give me songs from bands i like in a convenient package.
now, mp3 is nice and all, but that infrastructure is just going to be replaced by another commercial one. bands are not just going to start recording their songs at home and sending them out over the net by themselves. no one could be heard over the din of horribly crappy bands that would pollute the net in that situation.
not only that, but most bands can't afford it.
i agree that the attitude the record industry is taking is ridiculous and fascist, but they do serve a purpose, and simply need to be reminded of their place.
in the mean time, working on better sounding formats is always a Good Thing(tm).
...dave
as for me, i plan on investigating it more as soon as i get home today. it sounds (of course) great, we'll see how it/sounds/..
still, just like mp3, it won't be a replacement for CDs.. i haven't downloaded an mp3 in months, actually. i can't play them in my car, and why would i want to? CDs sound better. sure, there's the hassle of switching CDs, but really, with a nice sized disc-changer, that's just a once-a-month switch.
at one time i had 13gigs of mp3s available on my machine. that was over a year ago. right now i have none.
it's useful, but only for songs you don't really care about, you have an urge to hear them, download it, listen to it, and you're done. maybe check out a new album. but songs you care about, ones you want in a collection (i hope i'm speaking for more than myself here), are worth having on CD.
...dave
but you're misquoting and twisting the words around.. you are obviously very dim witted, so i will attempt to keep it simple :
- locks on doors deter burglars because it denies them of a way of silently, quickly, accessing a house. it is very inconvenient and ugly to put metal bars on the windows, but people in particularly high-break-in areas do this anyway. it is a matter of personal choice, and again, this is an improper analogy (as i said originally) and has been carried too far.
- censorware is completely ineffective, most anyone who sits down and wants to find porn, still can. the more broad your definition of porn, the easier it is. i never once said censorware makes people want to find porn. not everyone does, some people have it at home already, but the whole point of this topic was stopping those that sit down at the computer and want to find it, and at the same time, stopping people from finding it on accident (which almost never happens, people go looking for it and claim it was accidental when they get caught. i did this as a kid.)
you are very, very stupid, and have not understood this thread at all. at no point during this thread were your comments helpful, insightful, or relevant in any way.
you wanna know why we lock doors when it's so easy to break in a window?
because a burglar could almost silently open the door and take your shit and leave, whereas it makes quite a bit of noise to break a window.
besides which, nowadays, a lot of houses have alarms that go off when a window is broken, my parents' house has motion detectors.
your argument has been completely stupid and your analogies have been inane. you want to start calling people morons, i'm going to be just as rude back.
here ya go. and before i'm done, i'd like to say i highly doubt you're a chick, and if you are, you're one of those really fat, ugly bitter ones.
...dave
except that most people don't have the urge to go break into people's houses, whereas most people like to look at porn (whether they admit it or not..) especially teenage boys:P
obviously you're just set in the opinion that 'censorware serves a purpose' and you can't see outside of that. so there's no sense in this discussion.
...dave
i guarantee you i could find MANY holes in that software. sorry, i am sure it works well against finding porn on accident,.. but when someone sits down and actually tries to find it, i'll bet it fails. and that's what they really want to stop.
...dave
i covered some of it below, but oh well.. he gets +4 i get +1 karma,.. can't win 'em all;)
anyway, i like the idea of banning everything then adding things as people suggest them. the problems with that kind of system is :
a) extra paperwork/wasted staff time (and it's not just a matter of someone asks for site X to be added, then the staff member adds it, obviously they need to go make sure it's 'clean'..)
b) will the list of things people want added ever end?
c) you're always going to offend some people, and when you at least appear to be taking the steps not to, and you do, they tend to get exceptionally upset.
like i said, i'm more for the 'don't let little kids into the porn store' approach.. there's no reason for anyone who's too young for porn to be on the net anyway. (of course, my definition of this might be a little 'liberal' since i was downloading porn online when i was 11.)
...dave
if he wants a patchwork, half-assed working censoring system in there, i'm sure he could cobble one together. but there is a much larger issue here, and really, what's the point in doing it at all if it's still going to let a good portion of the porn through? (and it always will, there are numerous articles on this.)
so many people consider so many different things obscene that it's really impossible to do this kind of thing, and that's the real issue.
i'd appreciate if, in the future, you relax a little before you reply to my posts.
...dave
as i said in another post, putting net connections in libraries and schools is like running a freeway through the playground.
if you don't want kids and sheltered adults from finding porn 'on accident' *cough* then the simple solution is don't give them net access.
there is no form of blocking, automatic nor manual that is foolproof. if you go with automatic, either you end up blocking things you'd rather have available, or you miss some of the porn.
for manual, you just simply can't keep up with all the porn sites.
the only 'possible' solution, which is/very/ inconvenient, but is implimented in some libraries/schools is to have a librarian or other staff member assist all internet access, or do it themselves, and then print out the relevant info. this is really a silly way of doing it, though.
then farmer frank probably does too, which means he only has to grow *1* good tomato to start from,... the competition then will no longer be a matter of producing substance, but services which cannot be replicated.
exactly how is that? it sounds like hyperbole to me.
your posts smack of a young person with very little knowledge, who has read a lot of web articles and formed a fairly ignorant opinion based on said articles, and is now espousing it in this open forum called/.
oh i'm sure you use unix, dos, etc. that's just dandy, but it's still plainly obvious to me you are just blowing smoke and don't know the first thing about any of this.
in response to your other post, virtual machine != emulating a machine. in the strictly syntactical, english language sense, the two terms are congruent, but from a comp sci standpoint, they are not the same thing at all. if you don't understand this, then i suggest going over to a book store and picking up some books on the subject and getting informed, because i don't have the space nor the patience to really get into it here.
as for the post i'm responding to right now, there really isn't much to say that isn't plainly obvious. your post is pure rhetoric. no OS is perfect, but right now, unix suits me best for what i want to do. unfortunatley, most people and most games use windows, etc. etc. etc. this has all been said a thousand times before.
the heart of this thread is your silly diatribe against emulation/virtual machines. the fact is, there will always be old games people want to play, and emulation is at least good for that. the uses of vmware and such go beyond that, though, they allow you to have multiple OSes (whatever those OSes may be, and rest assured if you actually do something with all this angst you have and write the best OS the world has ever seen, they will be racing to support it) going at once, and save you the trouble of restarting the hardware. if you don't see the benefits of this, then, once again, there is no substitute for more experience.
anyway, there you have it, a very long-winded way of saying you are wrong. ...dave
but we all know something like this is impossible to enforce. if enough of the population is unwilling to go along with a law, short of nuking ourselves, there really is no way to stop it.
citizens really outnumber police.
anyway, i see your point but it's just paranoia to me. ...dave
i mean, you can make the connection if you really want to, but to me, it's a bit of a stretch.
nobody can 'corner the human genome market'.. that'd be like saying you can corner the market the recipe for chocolate chip cookies.
first of all there's a million ways to make a cookie, and the directions for doing so are already available everywhere.
this guy may have the corner on (de?)sequencing machines, but so what? i'm no lab rat, i don't really care. this is a much smaller market than gates goes after, cornering these small markets is not uncommon. if you do some looking around you will find lots of niche software companies that have their respective areas relatively cornered, and i'm sure the same is true for these kinds of mechanical applications.
i think it was just a slow week for jon and he had to try to come up with something sensational, but i think this one was a failure:) the implications of toying with genetics do need to be discussed, but the crux of this article was kind of weak:) ...dave
at least, not AFAIK.. but maybe they were, i never really got into them.
anyway, some chips/do/ deserve the clock rating they're given and overclocking them yields no good results, maybe that is the case here. but i never heard any great success stories about OCing K6's ...dave
it's moot whether napster goes away or not, people have the tools to make mp3s now, they will continue to do so. there really is no easy way for them to stop the free distribution of music over the net.
i personally don't care if there is a centralized company like napster behind it or not, i'd almost prefer there wasn't. ...dave
see, before i'd know a song was by a certain artist, say the left handed midget lesbian eskimo albino song by the dead milkmen. i don't remembe the name of the song and i don't remember what album it was on.. previously i'd have to go buy every dead milkmen cd, or buy them randomly (or god forbid, ask the guy who works at the store), but now, i can figure it out on napster, then just buy that one cd!
actually that's mainly a joke,..
napster doesn't affect my cd buying habits at all, i don't play mp3s in my car, and i don't listen to cds on my computer,they are separate.
but the RIAA doesn't care. they want control over how all the music is distributed. period.
the only way you might be able to make them care is to show that they will LOSE a lot of sales if Napster goes away. there really is no way to prove that (because it almost certainly isn't true.) ...dave
well first of all K6's were never a highly recommended potential OC chip,..
OCing is most successful with Celerons (so far) especially 300A, 366, and such.
i wouldn't even bother trying it on a K6-2 500, of course that is going to cause problems, that's a poorly designed chip running as best it can already (nothing against K7s, they're great,.. K6 is not my bag.)
anyway, as another poster says above, with a lot of chips, especially those Celerons, the manufacturer just made a whole bunch of the top-o'-the line chip (in the case of the Celerons i believe it was a 450 or 500?), but the demand for the mid-range ones was much higher,so they just relabled them.
the thing that also helps Celerons is all the cache is running at core speed.
i recommend looking up some great articles that Ars Technica has on this subject.
(and VERY few people go through the trouble of buying those big fan arrays, let alone spending much time screwing around with it. i spend exactly 30 minutes overclocking my 366 to 453.) ...dave
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but at the same time, i think the music industry serves a purpose. they give me songs from bands i like in a convenient package.
now, mp3 is nice and all, but that infrastructure is just going to be replaced by another commercial one. bands are not just going to start recording their songs at home and sending them out over the net by themselves. no one could be heard over the din of horribly crappy bands that would pollute the net in that situation.
not only that, but most bands can't afford it.
i agree that the attitude the record industry is taking is ridiculous and fascist, but they do serve a purpose, and simply need to be reminded of their place.
in the mean time, working on better sounding formats is always a Good Thing(tm).
...dave
as for me, i plan on investigating it more as soon as i get home today. it sounds (of course) great, we'll see how it
still, just like mp3, it won't be a replacement for CDs.. i haven't downloaded an mp3 in months, actually. i can't play them in my car, and why would i want to? CDs sound better. sure, there's the hassle of switching CDs, but really, with a nice sized disc-changer, that's just a once-a-month switch.
at one time i had 13gigs of mp3s available on my machine. that was over a year ago. right now i have none.
it's useful, but only for songs you don't really care about, you have an urge to hear them, download it, listen to it, and you're done. maybe check out a new album. but songs you care about, ones you want in a collection (i hope i'm speaking for more than myself here), are worth having on CD.
...dave
but you're misquoting and twisting the words around.. you are obviously very dim witted, so i will attempt to keep it simple :
- locks on doors deter burglars because it denies them of a way of silently, quickly, accessing a house. it is very inconvenient and ugly to put metal bars on the windows, but people in particularly high-break-in areas do this anyway. it is a matter of personal choice, and again, this is an improper analogy (as i said originally) and has been carried too far.
- censorware is completely ineffective, most anyone who sits down and wants to find porn, still can. the more broad your definition of porn, the easier it is. i never once said censorware makes people want to find porn. not everyone does, some people have it at home already, but the whole point of this topic was stopping those that sit down at the computer and want to find it, and at the same time, stopping people from finding it on accident (which almost never happens, people go looking for it and claim it was accidental when they get caught. i did this as a kid.)
you are very, very stupid, and have not understood this thread at all. at no point during this thread were your comments helpful, insightful, or relevant in any way.
please shut up.
...dave
you wanna know why we lock doors when it's so easy to break in a window?
because a burglar could almost silently open the door and take your shit and leave, whereas it makes quite a bit of noise to break a window.
besides which, nowadays, a lot of houses have alarms that go off when a window is broken, my parents' house has motion detectors.
your argument has been completely stupid and your analogies have been inane. you want to start calling people morons, i'm going to be just as rude back.
here ya go. and before i'm done, i'd like to say i highly doubt you're a chick, and if you are, you're one of those really fat, ugly bitter ones.
...dave
except that most people don't have the urge to go break into people's houses, whereas most people like to look at porn (whether they admit it or not..) especially teenage boys
obviously you're just set in the opinion that 'censorware serves a purpose' and you can't see outside of that. so there's no sense in this discussion.
...dave
i guarantee you i could find MANY holes in that software. sorry, i am sure it works well against finding porn on accident,.. but when someone sits down and actually tries to find it, i'll bet it fails. and that's what they really want to stop.
...dave
i covered some of it below, but oh well.. he gets +4 i get +1 karma,.. can't win 'em all
anyway, i like the idea of banning everything then adding things as people suggest them. the problems with that kind of system is :
a) extra paperwork/wasted staff time (and it's not just a matter of someone asks for site X to be added, then the staff member adds it, obviously they need to go make sure it's 'clean'..)
b) will the list of things people want added ever end?
c) you're always going to offend some people, and when you at least appear to be taking the steps not to, and you do, they tend to get exceptionally upset.
like i said, i'm more for the 'don't let little kids into the porn store' approach.. there's no reason for anyone who's too young for porn to be on the net anyway. (of course, my definition of this might be a little 'liberal' since i was downloading porn online when i was 11.)
...dave
..did i say that he cannot do what he wants?
i didn't, i said none of it is foolproof.
if he wants a patchwork, half-assed working censoring system in there, i'm sure he could cobble one together. but there is a much larger issue here, and really, what's the point in doing it at all if it's still going to let a good portion of the porn through? (and it always will, there are numerous articles on this.)
so many people consider so many different things obscene that it's really impossible to do this kind of thing, and that's the real issue.
i'd appreciate if, in the future, you relax a little before you reply to my posts.
...dave
as i said in another post, putting net connections in libraries and schools is like running a freeway through the playground.
if you don't want kids and sheltered adults from finding porn 'on accident' *cough* then the simple solution is don't give them net access.
there is no form of blocking, automatic nor manual that is foolproof. if you go with automatic, either you end up blocking things you'd rather have available, or you miss some of the porn.
for manual, you just simply can't keep up with all the porn sites.
the only 'possible' solution, which is
i really don't see another way.
...dave
it has trouble getting rid of linux partitions
i think Solitaire, 3D Pinball and Notepad are the best things M$ has ever created.
...dave
then farmer frank probably does too, which means he only has to grow *1* good tomato to start from,... the competition then will no longer be a matter of producing substance, but services which cannot be replicated.
that is what we're facing now.
...dave
90% of it is not
...dave
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rather than sitting around talking and scolding everyone else just because they did what they wanted to do.
i really don't know much about the plex project, but you have no place to say 'we' need to move on unless you're actually doing something.
...dave
exactly how is that? it sounds like hyperbole to me.
your posts smack of a young person with very little knowledge, who has read a lot of web articles and formed a fairly ignorant opinion based on said articles, and is now espousing it in this open forum called
oh i'm sure you use unix, dos, etc. that's just dandy, but it's still plainly obvious to me you are just blowing smoke and don't know the first thing about any of this.
in response to your other post, virtual machine != emulating a machine. in the strictly syntactical, english language sense, the two terms are congruent, but from a comp sci standpoint, they are not the same thing at all. if you don't understand this, then i suggest going over to a book store and picking up some books on the subject and getting informed, because i don't have the space nor the patience to really get into it here.
as for the post i'm responding to right now, there really isn't much to say that isn't plainly obvious. your post is pure rhetoric. no OS is perfect, but right now, unix suits me best for what i want to do. unfortunatley, most people and most games use windows, etc. etc. etc. this has all been said a thousand times before.
the heart of this thread is your silly diatribe against emulation/virtual machines. the fact is, there will always be old games people want to play, and emulation is at least good for that. the uses of vmware and such go beyond that, though, they allow you to have multiple OSes (whatever those OSes may be, and rest assured if you actually do something with all this angst you have and write the best OS the world has ever seen, they will be racing to support it) going at once, and save you the trouble of restarting the hardware. if you don't see the benefits of this, then, once again, there is no substitute for more experience.
anyway, there you have it, a very long-winded way of saying you are wrong.
...dave
some moderator obviously didn't read my entire post >:( that was DEFINITELY not offtopic
...dave who doesn't like losing karma for no reason.
but we all know something like this is impossible to enforce. if enough of the population is unwilling to go along with a law, short of nuking ourselves, there really is no way to stop it.
citizens really outnumber police.
anyway, i see your point but it's just paranoia to me.
...dave
i mean, you can make the connection if you really want to, but to me, it's a bit of a stretch.
nobody can 'corner the human genome market'.. that'd be like saying you can corner the market the recipe for chocolate chip cookies.
first of all there's a million ways to make a cookie, and the directions for doing so are already available everywhere.
this guy may have the corner on (de?)sequencing machines, but so what? i'm no lab rat, i don't really care. this is a much smaller market than gates goes after, cornering these small markets is not uncommon. if you do some looking around you will find lots of niche software companies that have their respective areas relatively cornered, and i'm sure the same is true for these kinds of mechanical applications.
i think it was just a slow week for jon and he had to try to come up with something sensational, but i think this one was a failure
...dave
for Team Fortress for Commander Keen 4. the best id game ever.
:)
:)
hopefully after DOOM 3 they will continue to retrace their roots and make Commander Keen 7!
whee!!
...dave
(PS - this is HELLA not Offtopic so don't even THINK about marking it that
and buy "Backstreet Boys" albums, but if i see it on the front of Slashdot i think i'm going to puke.
sorry, lots of people liking it does not make it good. (nor make it worth putting on the front page.)
it is crap, plain and simple.
...dave
thanks for the great read.
personally, my feeling is, anyone who's not old enough for porn shouldn't be on the net. i guess i'm a bit of a fascist that way but,..
putting net access in school libraries is like having the interstate run through the playground,...it's just not a Good Idea(tm)
...dave
the K6-2 500's are not
at least, not AFAIK.. but maybe they were, i never really got into them.
anyway, some chips
...dave
it's moot whether napster goes away or not, people have the tools to make mp3s now, they will continue to do so. there really is no easy way for them to stop the free distribution of music over the net.
i personally don't care if there is a centralized company like napster behind it or not, i'd almost prefer there wasn't.
...dave
see, before i'd know a song was by a certain artist, say the left handed midget lesbian eskimo albino song by the dead milkmen. i don't remembe the name of the song and i don't remember what album it was on.. previously i'd have to go buy every dead milkmen cd, or buy them randomly (or god forbid, ask the guy who works at the store), but now, i can figure it out on napster, then just buy that one cd!
actually that's mainly a joke,..
napster doesn't affect my cd buying habits at all, i don't play mp3s in my car, and i don't listen to cds on my computer
but the RIAA doesn't care. they want control over how all the music is distributed. period.
the only way you might be able to make them care is to show that they will LOSE a lot of sales if Napster goes away. there really is no way to prove that (because it almost certainly isn't true.)
...dave
good post
i wish i had moderation ability in this thread
ars has some good OCing articles, as does sharky extreme, curious parties should head over there.
(sorry i'm too tired/busy to look up the full URLs
...dave
well first of all K6's were never a highly recommended potential OC chip,..
OCing is most successful with Celerons (so far) especially 300A, 366, and such.
i wouldn't even bother trying it on a K6-2 500, of course that is going to cause problems, that's a poorly designed chip running as best it can already (nothing against K7s, they're great,.. K6 is not my bag.)
anyway, as another poster says above, with a lot of chips, especially those Celerons, the manufacturer just made a whole bunch of the top-o'-the line chip (in the case of the Celerons i believe it was a 450 or 500?), but the demand for the mid-range ones was much higher
the thing that also helps Celerons is all the cache is running at core speed.
i recommend looking up some great articles that Ars Technica has on this subject.
(and VERY few people go through the trouble of buying those big fan arrays, let alone spending much time screwing around with it. i spend exactly 30 minutes overclocking my 366 to 453.)
...dave