No offense, but you seem to have a fairly loose
understanding of PHP at best. If your programming
is good, modular, and loosely-connected, your
script will not care whether it's running on the
web or on the command line. Obviously PHP offers
features which only make sense on the web, but
that doesn't detract from general usefulness off
the web--it just means that you can more easily
accomplish certain web-centric tasks when running
in a web page.
And I'm not sure where you got the idea that perl
doesn't use an interpreter...you somehow think
#!/usr/bin/perl
is inherently superior to
#!/usr/bin/php
OK, if you say so.
Aside from the fact that I can't indulge every
little wank-guitar-riff syntactic urge that may
come over me in PHP, I can still accomplish the
same job. Don't get me wrong, I like perl as much
as the next guy...but this holy war assumed-condescension is silly.
The DBI argument gets more specious by the day,
too. Check out PEAR. Or PHPLib. Or Metabase.
There are lots of valid reasons one could give to
prefer perl over PHP, or PHP over perl, or emacs
over vi, or milkshakes over spaghetti...but what
you've written are not among them.
I remember when I first saw this reported (in Discover or SciAm or something). Blew my mind--this machine, left to its own devices, redesigned itself in ways we still don't understand, making use of obscure physical attributes of the chip on which it was running.
Hmm. Hearkens back to Asimov's 'Nobody Here But--'.:)
Well, I'm not a throwaway account. But then,
I'm not American either. And I agree (and for
the record I know quite a few Americans who
agree) with minus23.
Such a cynical attempt to use an unprecedented
occurrence to manipulate the general media-sheep
populace into brand recognition is just a low
form of preying on the weak. Looks like you fell
for it.
Actually, I wish I had mod points--having done
a lot of commuting since jr. high, some on
trains and some driving, I'd pick the train
anyday. Can't use my notebook and drive at the
same time...or read a magazine, or...or...
This sort of thing is so Trek that I can't help
but love it. 'course, I'm one o' those
Canadian commies.;)
Nothing is wrong with paying for music. Granted, there is a lot of
overreacting that goes on: some people really come across as though
they believe that if A) someone creates something, and B) it's really
easy to copy, then C) it must be made freely available to one and all.
But that's not the issue here. The issue is that a lot of
very--temporarily?:)--powerful people and organizations are
attempting to apply laws to a new technological and sociological
foundation, and that same foundation obsoletes many of those same laws
and concepts. They have their heads so far up their assets that they
don't see that this desperate attempt to make old models work in a new
world is doomed.
Perhaps the worst part, however, is that they're foisting the whole
load on the world as being in the interest of the artists. This
hypocrisy is what really condemns them for me. Since bloody *when*
have artists meant a sparrowfart in a hurricane to these execs? They
matter when they have a lucrative track record. That's it.
If you must pity someone, pity the artists. They weren't getting
treated what they were worth before, and they aren't now.
And please please please don't bother mentioning any of the vast
minority of artists who make it to the top rung. Sure, they get big
bucks and all the extras. You only know about them because they're
making money for someone else. Who do you think writes the press
releases, pays the studio/engineer time, yada yada? The execs. Why?
'Cause they'll make a bundle.
There are labels which buck this trend, but they're for the most part
quite new and have grown out of the underground/independent
scene. Which, by the way, is taking full advantage of the same
technology which the Big Boys are trying to suppress. Independent
music is flourishing, since creating and distribution of one's own
works is more available than ever before. Yes, this results in a lot
of drek. But at least with independent music, *you* get to decide what
you want to hear. You don't get your music selected for you by suits
pandering to market pressures. Think they want that pressure? Sure,
it's not a huge chunk out of their pockets, but the competition *is*
there, and lots of studios, bands, and labels are popping out of the
woodwork with independent/semi-independent works which are just so
much better than anything you ever hear on, say, RCA. Godspeed You
Black Emperor, Tortoise, Neko Case, you name it. The execs don't like
this either: competition sucks when your suit costs more than your
PC.:)
Eventually, with any luck the music industry will simply adapt to the
way things are now, instead of the way they wish they were. But for
now it's gonna suck for a bit.
Well, there is a slightly better debunking in
the 'Debunked here too' message, but if you
believe the original one, then you're just as
guilty of believing anything you read on the
Internet as those who believe that penguins do
this.
The strongest argument the referenced document
offers it that people overanthropomorphise things.
The strongest words used are 'there isn't much
reason to believe it'.
I'll need a better debunking than that. I mean,
I don't categorically believe that it *does*
happen; but this sure as hell isn't proof that it
doesn't.
(Disclaimer: I probably don't agree with the
politics in Texas but then I don't agree with
most of the politics here in Canada either.:) I've been there several times and have *nothing*
to complain about the place.)
The bush 3 hours west of Prince George, B.C., for
the most part. Some folk there speak with quite
little accent--with others, (including myself as I
was growing up), it's pretty strong.
I will admit that most of Canada sounds like they
take speach coaching from prime-time NBC, though.:)
But it's true: I didn't realize my own accent
until I spent a year in the states and Europe--
and people (even non-North Americans) commented
on it; I'd never even *heard* that Canadians were
supposed to talk that way before then.
Over the next 8 or so years, it sort of became
a running joke between my ex-wife and I; she
was Finnish and we lived in Finland, and every time I would come back from a trip to Canada,
my Canadian accent would be back in full force.
While in Finland, I sort of gravitated toward
a weird British/American mix, since the only
English I heard was on TV or from people who
had been taught British English.
No, no! There's still Hawking radiation. Some folks think that it
could be reconstructed.
'Course, Hawking doesn't. But he's not in computer security, either.
It's a recursive acronym. It means "PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor". This was added to the CVS version of the manual yesterday; the online version will likely be updated sometime after the release of PHP4 beta 3.
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No offense, but you seem to have a fairly loose
understanding of PHP at best. If your programming
is good, modular, and loosely-connected, your
script will not care whether it's running on the
web or on the command line. Obviously PHP offers
features which only make sense on the web, but
that doesn't detract from general usefulness off
the web--it just means that you can more easily
accomplish certain web-centric tasks when running
in a web page.
And I'm not sure where you got the idea that perl
doesn't use an interpreter...you somehow think
#!/usr/bin/perl
is inherently superior to
#!/usr/bin/php
OK, if you say so.
Aside from the fact that I can't indulge every
little wank-guitar-riff syntactic urge that may
come over me in PHP, I can still accomplish the
same job. Don't get me wrong, I like perl as much
as the next guy...but this holy war assumed-condescension is silly.
The DBI argument gets more specious by the day,
too. Check out PEAR. Or PHPLib. Or Metabase.
There are lots of valid reasons one could give to
prefer perl over PHP, or PHP over perl, or emacs
over vi, or milkshakes over spaghetti...but what
you've written are not among them.
I remember when I first saw this reported (in Discover or SciAm or something). Blew my mind--this machine, left to its own devices, redesigned itself in ways we still don't understand, making use of obscure physical attributes of the chip on which it was running.
:)
Hmm. Hearkens back to Asimov's 'Nobody Here But--'.
Well, I'm not a throwaway account. But then,
I'm not American either. And I agree (and for
the record I know quite a few Americans who
agree) with minus23.
Such a cynical attempt to use an unprecedented
occurrence to manipulate the general media-sheep
populace into brand recognition is just a low
form of preying on the weak. Looks like you fell
for it.
Hell, they landed on a comet long before Bruce :)
Willis even knew about the asteroid. Ever see
Life Force?
I'd say the real danger is sexy naked vampire
people.
Actually, I wish I had mod points--having done
;)
a lot of commuting since jr. high, some on
trains and some driving, I'd pick the train
anyday. Can't use my notebook and drive at the
same time...or read a magazine, or...or...
This sort of thing is so Trek that I can't help
but love it. 'course, I'm one o' those
Canadian commies.
Nothing is wrong with paying for music. Granted, there is a lot of
:)--powerful people and organizations are
:)
overreacting that goes on: some people really come across as though
they believe that if A) someone creates something, and B) it's really
easy to copy, then C) it must be made freely available to one and all.
But that's not the issue here. The issue is that a lot of
very--temporarily?
attempting to apply laws to a new technological and sociological
foundation, and that same foundation obsoletes many of those same laws
and concepts. They have their heads so far up their assets that they
don't see that this desperate attempt to make old models work in a new
world is doomed.
Perhaps the worst part, however, is that they're foisting the whole
load on the world as being in the interest of the artists. This
hypocrisy is what really condemns them for me. Since bloody *when*
have artists meant a sparrowfart in a hurricane to these execs? They
matter when they have a lucrative track record. That's it.
If you must pity someone, pity the artists. They weren't getting
treated what they were worth before, and they aren't now.
And please please please don't bother mentioning any of the vast
minority of artists who make it to the top rung. Sure, they get big
bucks and all the extras. You only know about them because they're
making money for someone else. Who do you think writes the press
releases, pays the studio/engineer time, yada yada? The execs. Why?
'Cause they'll make a bundle.
There are labels which buck this trend, but they're for the most part
quite new and have grown out of the underground/independent
scene. Which, by the way, is taking full advantage of the same
technology which the Big Boys are trying to suppress. Independent
music is flourishing, since creating and distribution of one's own
works is more available than ever before. Yes, this results in a lot
of drek. But at least with independent music, *you* get to decide what
you want to hear. You don't get your music selected for you by suits
pandering to market pressures. Think they want that pressure? Sure,
it's not a huge chunk out of their pockets, but the competition *is*
there, and lots of studios, bands, and labels are popping out of the
woodwork with independent/semi-independent works which are just so
much better than anything you ever hear on, say, RCA. Godspeed You
Black Emperor, Tortoise, Neko Case, you name it. The execs don't like
this either: competition sucks when your suit costs more than your
PC.
Eventually, with any luck the music industry will simply adapt to the
way things are now, instead of the way they wish they were. But for
now it's gonna suck for a bit.
Well, there is a slightly better debunking in
the 'Debunked here too' message, but if you
believe the original one, then you're just as
guilty of believing anything you read on the
Internet as those who believe that penguins do
this.
The strongest argument the referenced document
offers it that people overanthropomorphise things.
The strongest words used are 'there isn't much
reason to believe it'.
I'll need a better debunking than that. I mean,
I don't categorically believe that it *does*
happen; but this sure as hell isn't proof that it
doesn't.
Hey!
:)
:) I've been there several times and have *nothing*
*gasp*
My Dad's Texan!...from Victoria.
Um...of course, he *did* leave.
(Disclaimer: I probably don't agree with the
politics in Texas but then I don't agree with
most of the politics here in Canada either.
to complain about the place.)
The bush 3 hours west of Prince George, B.C., for
:)
the most part. Some folk there speak with quite
little accent--with others, (including myself as I
was growing up), it's pretty strong.
I will admit that most of Canada sounds like they
take speach coaching from prime-time NBC, though.
But it's true: I didn't realize my own accent
until I spent a year in the states and Europe--
and people (even non-North Americans) commented
on it; I'd never even *heard* that Canadians were
supposed to talk that way before then.
Over the next 8 or so years, it sort of became
a running joke between my ex-wife and I; she
was Finnish and we lived in Finland, and every time I would come back from a trip to Canada,
my Canadian accent would be back in full force.
While in Finland, I sort of gravitated toward
a weird British/American mix, since the only
English I heard was on TV or from people who
had been taught British English.
Heh. You could end up running from Dubya and end
up having to deal with Stockwell Day.
Frying pan, fire.
Did _every_ Canadian other than myself get
offended by that comment?
Goodness. Hope you lot never watch Canadian
Bacon.
Then you haven't lived in the same parts of :)
Canada I have.
No, no! There's still Hawking radiation. Some folks think that it could be reconstructed. 'Course, Hawking doesn't. But he's not in computer security, either.
Thanks for playing, but she's referring to games
involving a gun controller which you hold and
with which you shoot at targets on the screen.
Presumably games with rocket launcher controllers
would also be banned.
I would, however, *love* to see a good implementation of the 'Knife-in-the-teeth' controller.
It's a recursive acronym. It means "PHP: Hypertext
Preprocessor". This was added to the CVS version
of the manual yesterday; the online version will
likely be updated sometime after the release of
PHP4 beta 3.