>Maybe a system that open and secure from tampering isn't what they want....
Youuuu got it, Pontiac.
That tagging idea, though... I gotta think about that. I gave up wishing for a fully Condorcet balloting system when I concluded it could not be done by hand except for pointlessly small numbers of candidates (seems to me one Canadian riding had 15 candidates in 2000, totally impossible to count manually) and there was no way to introduce machinery and preserve trust.
finally, a worthwhile comment on/. now how do i give out mod points?
Tajikistan(?) will probably beat out Iraq once Unocal gets its pipeline through Afghanistan built. (You should also look into Karzai's former executive work and Armitage's former consulting work for *tahdah* Unocal.)
Wouldn't this kinda kill the C@P public internet access program of which a little while ago Ottawa was so proud? Have they become appalled at their own success? Did the rumoured sighting of Atta at my local C@P site make them reconsider public access and want a way to kill the things in one swoop? Or are they just going to demand three pieces of federal ID to use C@P? Hm.
i'd meant also to mention this iteration was something i'd played with quite a bit as a kid reading Creative Computing. Until I figured out it wasn't the only way to make palindromes. I had mental blocks of my own I guess:)
well, duh, yes, OBVIOUSLY if N is Lychral so is its reversal R and iteration N+R:p how could anyone slip into thinking (or writing) 196 was the only one less than 10000 ??
1. got it backwards: Verdana and arial are sans and Georgia is serif
2. LMAO at the KDE engineer's comment `personally, I'd be embarrassed to use them.' 'cause I'd swear KDE uses Georgia digits in its startup splash window =D (Myself, I thought Georgia was the best thing M$ had had for years.)
I'm glad someone's looking into that. I was once puzzled why, if we live so much longer, the biblical limit of 70 isn't all that much different. Why, if you look through lists of famous people in history, so many of them had lifespans comparable to our own. Then I more/less figured out it was figure-fiddling propaganda, much like `aircraft are safe' statistically (The Royal Society showed that per-journey, counting injury and not just death, aircraft are *not* the safest.)
Some interesting quotes from the Medical Dark Ages collection along these lines:
The life expectancy of the 40-year-old American is near the lowest in the world. - Adelle Davis, MS, Biology, USC Med. School, Let's Get Well
In 1972 WHO issued its statistical report...for 34 countries...the life expectancy for persons who had already reached 65....23 of the 34 nations reported showed a drop in the life expectancy of their 65-year-olds from the previously recorded 1958 figures. Except Japan, all the highly industrialized nations were in this group of 23. - Ivan Popov, MD, Stay Young
Although in America today life expectancy at birth is near the best of any civilized country in the world...at age 40, life expectancy is near the bottom...' - New York State Medical Journal, Sept. 15, 1955 [funny how at about the same time NYS was denying any danger from the Troy-Albany radioactive rains]
Complete Expectation of Life in Years (Remaining) for each sex at selected ages, Massachusetts, 1789-1929: 1789: Expectation of life in years, at...age...60: Male: 14.8; Female 16.1 1929: Expectation of life in years, at...age...60: Male: 14.0; Female 15.4 - E. Sydenstricker, Health and Environment
More of the MDAQ collection at http://home1.gte.net/res0k62m/mdaq.htm
Matloff's sect 4 makes clear the desperation is on the part of job hunters, not employers. And when I see 200+ capable people turning up for a half-dozen positions (late 90s), I have a hard time believing in a labour shortage.
oh - hm, thank you. I was about to flame whoever it was marked this as flamebait without, obviously, taking the time to read the g*d*m research:p but i reloaded and was `informative.' Heaven knows what it'll be in five minutes.
The NYT is one of the principal US propaganda engines (eg look how fast they gave their stamp of approval to the overthrow of democracy in venezuela in april); the Internet is a threat to the disinformation manufacturers (because people can get the truth out to other people without spending enormous amounts of money); thus the NYT will say just about anything it can to make the 'net look bad.
... for people to figure out that US gov'ts don't want auditable voting machinery, because it won't manufacture the result they want. `The issues are too important to let the voters decide' - Kissinger
one more comment. Apparently Sagal asserts that it would have taken about 6 months to splice up HIV with the known '70s technology, and a good technician just a week or two with what we have today. The latter is an assertion relatively easily tested.
http://www.sas.upenn.edu/African_Studies/Urgent_ Ac tion/AIDS_Contract.html
And regardless of the mounting evidence the US engineered HIV, and regardless of what it's doing about HIV now, there's no denying US muckamucks like Kennan, Kissinger, Nixon, McNamera have been Malthusians for at least 30 years. That's the real point: even if the theory is all wrong (like the old-testament theory of why Jews `belong' in Israel), there are powerful people that believe in it.
Late and overbudget indeed; according to Graves in what appears to be a press release by Rep. Trafficant the `cancer virus' program that made HIV took 15 years and a half-gigabuck.
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/aids.htm
Still cheap next to a lot of US gov't military stuff.
Further to the `incredible amount of money': in House appropriations committee hearings, 1969 July 1 (HB 15090, pg 129) `it would probably be possible to make a new infective microorganism which could differ in certain important aspects from any known disease-causing organisms. Most important of these is that it might be refractory to the immunological and therapeutic processes upon when we depend to maintain our relative freedom from infectious disease. A research program to explore the feasibility of this could be completed in approximately 5 years at a total cost of $10 million.' Like most gov't projects it was probably finished wildly overbudget; on the other hand, M$10 is only a little more than you've given to Israel alone every *day* for 30 years.
Take it up with the `morons' at the Nat'l Academy of Science:
1986 According to the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (83:4007-4011), HIV and VISNA are highly similar and share all structural elements, except for a small segment which is nearly identical to HTLV. This leads to speculation that HTLV and VISNA may have been linked to produce a new retrovirus to which no natural immunity exists.
http://www.healthnewsnet.com/humanexperiments.ht ml
(Not also the mention of `ethnic weapons' designing going on in 1970)
Take it up with the moron who claims to have the documentation: http://boydgraves.com/
*Personally*, I'm not quite `aboard' with the `Us engineered HIV' - yet (and I implied so elsewhere). But I'm a LONG way from dismissing the possibility; enough Washington evil has been proven beyond doubt that I mark them capable of attempting ANYthing. And there is no denying that whether or not the US made HIV, it's been exploiting it (wringing its hands while extending patents and keeping prices high) to reduce the population of Africa and Asia.
as for the incredible amount of money (i assume you meant to say): I think incredibly larger amounts of money have disappeared into other military projects (eg CIA's blackbird, stealth bomber). so? The Fed, literally, has a license to print money. The gov't needs more, it prints it, and worries about backing it... whenever. Later. Next administration. Money is no object for the US (although value IS).
Yup. and this is exactly why the US infected them with AIDS (it could produce enough drugs to keep its own people alive while keeping the price too high for the poor). The 1974 report for NSSM200 made very clear that regulating population by birth control was political suicide especially when The American People realised it required lowering their own consumption... so Washington cranked up its biological and war engineering. It's perfectly obvious.
And until the US sets a good example, lowering the apparent standard-of-living bar, redusing the cost of transfer of efficient technologies, using those thechnologies itself, *and* reducing its emissions, why in hell should bit players like Cuba and N Korea change? You're buying Shrubya's propaganda just as wholesale as you claim the treehuggers are selling theirs.
Now even the US DoE is saying it can happen in our lifetime.
http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/pre se ntations/2000/long_term_supply/sld012.htm
It's a little hard to ignore when all credible tunings of global models and fiddling what humans can control of those within even fanciful bounds of political acceptibility, predicts overshoot and collapse this century.
The US decided in 1974 (report for NSSM200) that the world's population was unsustainable (specifically, a threat to national security), and (very likely) engineered AIDS as a fix (since it was clear birth control programs would be anti-American in the practical sense that the US couldn't use all the resources any more).
Malthus may have been a little premature, probably not accounting for the way technologies would stretch the distibution of wealth, but that doesn't make him wrong in the important part: that there's only so much to go around and an exploding global population is going to crash and burn, no two ways about it.andwhere it counts.
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>Maybe a system that open and secure from tampering isn't what they want....
... I gotta think about that. I gave up wishing for a fully Condorcet balloting system when I concluded it could not be done by hand except for pointlessly small numbers of candidates (seems to me one Canadian riding had 15 candidates in 2000, totally impossible to count manually) and there was no way to introduce machinery and preserve trust.
Youuuu got it, Pontiac.
That tagging idea, though
finally, a worthwhile comment on /. now how do i give out mod points?
Tajikistan(?) will probably beat out Iraq once Unocal gets its pipeline through Afghanistan built. (You should also look into Karzai's former executive work and Armitage's former consulting work for *tahdah* Unocal.)
Wouldn't this kinda kill the C@P public internet access program of which a little while ago Ottawa was so proud? Have they become appalled at their own success? Did the rumoured sighting of Atta at my local C@P site make them reconsider public access and want a way to kill the things in one swoop? Or are they just going to demand three pieces of federal ID to use C@P? Hm.
KDE3, that is
oh shoot
:)
i'd meant also to mention this iteration was something i'd played with quite a bit as a kid reading Creative Computing. Until I figured out it wasn't the only way to make palindromes. I had mental blocks of my own I guess
well, duh, yes, OBVIOUSLY if N is Lychral so is its reversal R and iteration N+R :p how could anyone slip into thinking (or writing) 196 was the only one less than 10000 ??
1. got it backwards: Verdana and arial are sans and Georgia is serif
2. LMAO at the KDE engineer's comment `personally, I'd be embarrassed to use them.' 'cause I'd swear KDE uses Georgia digits in its startup splash window =D (Myself, I thought Georgia was the best thing M$ had had for years.)
I'm glad someone's looking into that. I was once puzzled why, if we live so much longer, the biblical limit of 70 isn't all that much different. Why, if you look through lists of famous people in history, so many of them had lifespans comparable to our own. Then I more/less figured out it was figure-fiddling propaganda, much like `aircraft are safe' statistically (The Royal Society showed that per-journey, counting injury and not just death, aircraft are *not* the safest.)
...23 of the 34 nations reported showed a drop in the life expectancy of their 65-year-olds from the previously recorded 1958 figures. Except Japan, all the highly industrialized nations were in this group of 23. - Ivan Popov, MD, Stay Young
Some interesting quotes from the Medical Dark Ages collection along these lines:
The life expectancy of the 40-year-old American is near the lowest in the world. - Adelle Davis, MS, Biology, USC Med. School, Let's Get Well
In 1972 WHO issued its statistical report...for 34 countries...the life expectancy for persons who had already reached 65.
Although in America today life expectancy at birth is near the best of any civilized country in the world...at age 40, life expectancy is near the bottom...' - New York State Medical Journal, Sept. 15, 1955 [funny how at about the same time NYS was denying any danger from the Troy-Albany radioactive rains]
Complete Expectation of Life in Years (Remaining) for each sex at selected ages, Massachusetts, 1789-1929:
1789: Expectation of life in years, at...age...60: Male: 14.8; Female 16.1
1929: Expectation of life in years, at...age...60: Male: 14.0; Female 15.4
- E. Sydenstricker, Health and Environment
More of the MDAQ collection at
http://home1.gte.net/res0k62m/mdaq.htm
(that's what meant - i wasn't clear :7 )
Matloff's sect 4 makes clear the desperation is on the part of job hunters, not employers. And when I see 200+ capable people turning up for a half-dozen positions (late 90s), I have a hard time believing in a labour shortage.
Matloff deals with that in 9.2.5
arguments are also tried that H1Bs cost more in legal fees. Matloff deals with that, 9.3.3
oh - hm, thank you. I was about to flame whoever it was marked this as flamebait without, obviously, taking the time to read the g*d*m research :p but i reloaded and was `informative.' Heaven knows what it'll be in five minutes.
An instance I found just today: the NYT peddled propaganda for the nuclear industry after TMI, covering up the spike in infant mortality
S Fc hp19.html
http://www.ratical.com/radiation/SecretFallout/
(Unfortunately I have not recorded the others I have seen documented the last few months.)
Clearly time to trot out Dr Matloff again
http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/itaa.html
there is no `tech boom', never was (not since 70s at least); it's a ploy to generate cheap labour, the H1-1 campaigns part of that
The NYT is one of the principal US propaganda engines (eg look how fast they gave their stamp of approval to the overthrow of democracy in venezuela in april); the Internet is a threat to the disinformation manufacturers (because people can get the truth out to other people without spending enormous amounts of money); thus the NYT will say just about anything it can to make the 'net look bad.
... for people to figure out that US gov'ts don't want auditable voting machinery, because it won't manufacture the result they want. `The issues are too important to let the voters decide' - Kissinger
one more comment. Apparently Sagal asserts that it would have taken about 6 months to splice up HIV with the known '70s technology, and a good technician just a week or two with what we have today. The latter is an assertion relatively easily tested.
_ Ac tion/AIDS_Contract.html
http://www.sas.upenn.edu/African_Studies/Urgent
And regardless of the mounting evidence the US engineered HIV, and regardless of what it's doing about HIV now, there's no denying US muckamucks like Kennan, Kissinger, Nixon, McNamera have been Malthusians for at least 30 years. That's the real point: even if the theory is all wrong (like the old-testament theory of why Jews `belong' in Israel), there are powerful people that believe in it.
Late and overbudget indeed; according to Graves in what appears to be a press release by Rep. Trafficant the `cancer virus' program that made HIV took 15 years and a half-gigabuck.
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/aids.htm
Still cheap next to a lot of US gov't military stuff.
Further to the `incredible amount of money': in House appropriations committee hearings, 1969 July 1 (HB 15090, pg 129) `it would probably be possible to make a new infective microorganism which could differ in certain important aspects from any known disease-causing organisms. Most important of these is that it might be refractory to the immunological and therapeutic processes upon when we depend to maintain our relative freedom from infectious disease. A research program to explore the feasibility of this could be completed in approximately 5 years at a total cost of $10 million.'
Like most gov't projects it was probably finished wildly overbudget; on the other hand, M$10 is only a little more than you've given to Israel alone every *day* for 30 years.
Take it up with the `morons' at the Nat'l Academy of Science:
t ml
... whenever. Later. Next administration. Money is no object for the US (although value IS).
1986 According to the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (83:4007-4011), HIV and VISNA are highly similar and share all structural elements, except for a small segment which is nearly identical to HTLV. This leads to speculation that HTLV and VISNA may have been linked to produce a new retrovirus to which no natural immunity exists.
http://www.healthnewsnet.com/humanexperiments.h
(Not also the mention of `ethnic weapons' designing going on in 1970)
Take it up with the moron who claims to have the documentation: http://boydgraves.com/
*Personally*, I'm not quite `aboard' with the `Us engineered HIV' - yet (and I implied so elsewhere). But I'm a LONG way from dismissing the possibility; enough Washington evil has been proven beyond doubt that I mark them capable of attempting ANYthing. And there is no denying that whether or not the US made HIV, it's been exploiting it (wringing its hands while extending patents and keeping prices high) to reduce the population of Africa and Asia.
as for the incredible amount of money (i assume you meant to say): I think incredibly larger amounts of money have disappeared into other military projects (eg CIA's blackbird, stealth bomber). so? The Fed, literally, has a license to print money. The gov't needs more, it prints it, and worries about backing it
No, things like Ebola kill too quickly, in fact; they are noticed and stopped before they spread far. As we have seen.
Yup. and this is exactly why the US infected them with AIDS (it could produce enough drugs to keep its own people alive while keeping the price too high for the poor). The 1974 report for NSSM200 made very clear that regulating population by birth control was political suicide especially when The American People realised it required lowering their own consumption... so Washington cranked up its biological and war engineering. It's perfectly obvious.
And until the US sets a good example, lowering the apparent standard-of-living bar, redusing the cost of transfer of efficient technologies, using those thechnologies itself, *and* reducing its emissions, why in hell should bit players like Cuba and N Korea change? You're buying Shrubya's propaganda just as wholesale as you claim the treehuggers are selling theirs.
Now even the US DoE is saying it can happen in our lifetime.
e se ntations/2000/long_term_supply/sld012.htm
http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/pr
It's a little hard to ignore when all credible tunings of global models and fiddling what humans can control of those within even fanciful bounds of political acceptibility, predicts overshoot and collapse this century.
The US decided in 1974 (report for NSSM200) that the world's population was unsustainable (specifically, a threat to national security), and (very likely) engineered AIDS as a fix (since it was clear birth control programs would be anti-American in the practical sense that the US couldn't use all the resources any more).
Malthus may have been a little premature, probably not accounting for the way technologies would stretch the distibution of wealth, but that doesn't make him wrong in the important part: that there's only so much to go around and an exploding global population is going to crash and burn, no two ways about it.andwhere it counts.